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people who go "I would've done this as town too" after they get lynched as scum are just lying to themselves imo

generally agreed imo (and my opinion is obviously right)
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Here are the scumchat logs, since I never posted them. (note that there's some idle chatter here and there so if the scumteam isn't comfortable with some parts being posted I can remove them)

[spoiler=Day 1]

[4/4/2014 6:57:51 AM] *** Vhaltz added Manix, Prims ***

[4/4/2014 6:58:03 AM] Vhaltz: mafia assembly thing

[4/4/2014 6:58:37 AM] Raymond: I like trains.

[4/4/2014 6:59:20 AM] Manix: trainssssss

[4/4/2014 6:59:34 AM] Vhaltz: Prims startgame, and tell Paperblade to start his jokegame at the same time

[4/4/2014 7:01:42 AM] Vhaltz: anyway, what would you guys say should be the NK priority for this game?

[4/4/2014 7:01:58 AM] Manix: first person to crumb cop

[4/4/2014 7:02:10 AM] Vhaltz: what if they all crumb cop

[4/4/2014 7:02:31 AM] Manix: but realtalk: hard to say right now; but sb is kinda good at discerning my alignment so

[4/4/2014 7:02:44 AM] Manix: well that'd suck then

[4/4/2014 7:03:09 AM] Vhaltz: people I don't expect to get lynched are Conq, BBM, eclipse and Kaoz

[4/4/2014 7:03:31 AM] Vhaltz: haven't played with j00, Strege or Balc

[4/4/2014 7:03:34 AM] Manix: bbm can be lynched, i have Magic Powers

[4/4/2014 7:03:40 AM] Raymond: I have no real preference, personally, but killing the not-likely-to-be-lynched ones is obviously a good idea.

[4/4/2014 7:03:50 AM] Manix: aka my powers of amazing deathtunnel

[4/4/2014 7:03:55 AM] Raymond: xD

[4/4/2014 7:04:04 AM] Vhaltz: that might get you lynched though

[4/4/2014 7:04:16 AM] Manix: it literally happens every other game i play with bbm

[4/4/2014 7:04:20 AM] Manix: it's no big

[4/4/2014 7:04:41 AM] Raymond: [Friday, April 04, 2014 7:03 AM] Vhaltz:

<<< BalcBalcerzak is difficult to lynch, but I can make it happen if he happens to have a bad day. xP

[4/4/2014 7:05:25 AM] Vhaltz: I really didn't want to roll scum in this game, lol

[4/4/2014 7:05:46 AM] Manix: i was expecting to, so i prepared myself

[4/4/2014 7:05:53 AM] Raymond: I wanted to roll PGO, but BP godfather neighborizer hitman works too, I guess. xD

But man, I've never played a neighborizer before. I have no clue how to use it, and much less how to look town doing so. xD

[4/4/2014 7:06:16 AM] Manix: use it on people you "think" are townie

[4/4/2014 7:06:27 AM] Raymond: Yeah, I thought that much

[4/4/2014 7:06:59 AM] Vhaltz: otherwise, use it on people who you "think" are scummy but haven't voiced in thread, making him think you "think" he's townie for tests and stuff

[4/4/2014 7:07:07 AM] Manix: all the better because they are probably going to be the people that are considered protown enough to be killed

[4/4/2014 7:07:19 AM] Vhaltz: but yeah, probably works better on townie people

[4/4/2014 7:07:51 AM] Raymond: Hm, alright.

We probably shouldn't abuse the hitman thing though, it'll look odd if all the people I invite start dying mysteriously. xD

[4/4/2014 7:08:10 AM] Manix: that's fair

[4/4/2014 7:08:36 AM] Vhaltz: would probably use once, twice if pushing it and worth sacrificing scumnumbers for the strategy

[4/4/2014 7:08:52 AM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/4/2014 7:09:16 AM] Vhaltz: either way, if there's no mention of the neighbourizing in-thread in D2 and we kill N2

[4/4/2014 7:09:23 AM] Manix: oh right fwiw i'm prolly gonna claim 1-2 shot roleclop

[4/4/2014 7:09:31 AM] Vhaltz: you can start telling people you were neighbors and what the person said in the QT etc

[4/4/2014 7:09:31 AM] Manix: i need to refer to some source material first

[4/4/2014 7:09:43 AM] Vhaltz: might make you look townie

[4/4/2014 7:09:58 AM] Raymond: Noted

[4/4/2014 7:10:23 AM] Vhaltz: we shouldn't all claim nerfed roles

[4/4/2014 7:10:34 AM] Vhaltz: Kaoz knows that I think Prims likes using weird modifiers

[4/4/2014 7:10:44 AM] Vhaltz: we discussed his setups the other day

[4/4/2014 7:10:54 AM] Raymond: I'll just claim neighbor, seems like the most reasonable thing for me to do

[4/4/2014 7:11:05 AM] Raymond: That is, if I have to claim at all

[4/4/2014 7:11:08 AM] Vhaltz: neighborizer*

[4/4/2014 7:11:15 AM] Raymond: Right. xD"

[4/4/2014 7:11:19 AM] Manix: well i don't really want to claim full roleclop, just because it's inherently stronger than aligncop after seeing a scumflip

[4/4/2014 7:11:56 AM] Manix: saying that, it is cardflip though. hm

[4/4/2014 7:12:27 AM] Manix: it may actually be possible. i'll think on it

[4/4/2014 7:12:43 AM] Raymond: Toying with the idea of neighborizing one of you two at some point for town cred, by the way, although I'm not sure if a 13p game is gonna last long enough for there to be any point to that

[4/4/2014 7:12:58 AM] Manix: sounds good to me

[4/4/2014 7:13:09 AM] Manix: a bit of night action distancing is alright

[4/4/2014 7:13:41 AM] Vhaltz: claiming odd-night unlimited neighbourizer is a good idea, actually

[4/4/2014 7:14:21 AM] Manix: actually okay. i can probably claim full roleclop, because prims likes to have a clause where the scum return a false rolename (namely the not-scummy part) to roleclops (for all scum)

[4/4/2014 7:14:28 AM] Manix: #GoodStrats

[4/4/2014 7:14:44 AM] Manix: #ModMeta

[4/4/2014 7:15:09 AM] Raymond: I'd rather not claim any modifiers, to be honest

Prims said I'll just appear as Town Neighborizer to investigative roles, and I'm not sure if said investigative roles can see modifiers or not. If other people have modifiers and investigative roles can see them, that'd be a really dumb way to get caught. xD"

[4/4/2014 7:15:25 AM] Vhaltz: true

[4/4/2014 7:15:37 AM] Manix: prims setups generally don't show the modifiers in rolename

[4/4/2014 7:15:40 AM] Manix: fwiw

[4/4/2014 7:15:57 AM] Raymond: I'd rather not take the risk and just neighborize one of you two N1 or N2. xD

[4/4/2014 7:16:25 AM] Vhaltz: are you allowed to neighbourize a second dude once you've got us neighbourized though?

[4/4/2014 7:16:30 AM] Manix: (also noting that i only get rolename from roleclopping)

[4/4/2014 7:17:12 AM] Vhaltz: also you shouldn't be scared of being scum and be confident

[4/4/2014 7:17:13 AM] Raymond: If I understand my role correctly, I can neighborize another player each night, so that should work, yes

[4/4/2014 7:17:20 AM] Raymond: I'll try. xD

[4/4/2014 7:17:47 AM] Vhaltz: specially if you've got a neighborizer role which is not that much of a loss if town

[4/4/2014 7:18:12 AM] Vhaltz: I get jailor and that'll be my claim so I can try to lay low based on that

[4/4/2014 7:18:48 AM] Vhaltz: I'll claim modifiers anyway because if I get investigated I can always just say it was gambitting so that I wouldn't get killed when "out of shots"

[4/4/2014 7:19:18 AM] Manix: you using insom though vhaltz, at all?

[4/4/2014 7:19:42 AM] Raymond: I guess I'll just try to play like I did last game.

Yeah, jailors can be like pseudo-docs, so you have a reason not to attract attention.

[4/4/2014 7:20:23 AM] Vhaltz: depending on how the game goes I'll use it little under the pretense of the restriction, not use it or w/e

[4/4/2014 7:21:04 AM] Raymond: You should probably use it to post a wall per night for townie points

[4/4/2014 7:21:17 AM] Raymond: If you can bring yourself to do so. xD"

[4/4/2014 7:22:05 AM] Vhaltz: I can always like, use it little N1 under pretense of restriction

[4/4/2014 7:22:26 AM] Raymond: Sure

[4/4/2014 7:22:27 AM] Vhaltz: then start using it more later by saying Prims told me I was only supposed to post one per night

[4/4/2014 7:22:38 AM] Vhaltz: one video I mean

[4/4/2014 7:24:24 AM] Vhaltz: our rolecop having restriction to rolename only probably means that SK/ITP was given a safe-looking role as well

[4/4/2014 7:24:51 AM] Manix: probably has the aforementioned "safe role" appearance

[4/4/2014 7:25:19 AM] Manix: also if one actually exists. i'm not sold on 9/3/1 without a strong as balls town

[4/4/2014 7:25:21 AM] Raymond: Do we even have one, though? 9/3/1 with the ITP being a SK looks rather swingy to me.

[4/4/2014 7:25:43 AM] Vhaltz: we'll see I guess

[4/4/2014 7:25:50 AM] Raymond: Also note how our victory condition is just "achieve parity with the town", which doesn't account for SKs and the like

[4/4/2014 7:25:59 AM] Vhaltz: I'd rather think there is one so that there is an incentive to scumhunt though

[4/4/2014 7:26:19 AM] Raymond: Sure, you can use it that way. xD

[4/4/2014 7:26:51 AM] Manix: i use the parity wording even with sk's in my games (+ there was a dicussion earlier in irc about it anyway and prims just likes using the word, so it goes either way)

[4/4/2014 7:27:05 AM] Raymond: Eh, okay

[4/4/2014 7:27:13 AM] Vhaltz: could be a survivor regardless

[4/4/2014 7:27:24 AM] Manix: gayvivor more like

[4/4/2014 7:27:25 AM] Raymond: Survivors are gay, though. xD

[4/4/2014 7:27:28 AM | Edited 7:27:33 AM] Manix: (ps: prims hates vivors)

[4/4/2014 7:27:37 AM] Vhaltz: what about cult then? :V

[4/4/2014 7:27:41 AM] Raymond: Yeah, I doubt we'll see a plain gayvivor from Prims

[4/4/2014 7:27:47 AM] Raymond: Cult would be hilarious

[4/4/2014 7:27:54 AM] Manix: hilarious but even more swingy

[4/4/2014 7:27:55 AM] Vhaltz: there's rule that there's no jesters, but no rule for cult

[4/4/2014 7:28:02 AM] Raymond: Do we want to pull another "there's a cult!!"? 8D

[4/4/2014 7:28:30 AM] Vhaltz: if one of us is going down hard at some point it might be a funny idea

[4/4/2014 7:28:30 AM] Manix: eh, i don't think it's needed

[4/4/2014 7:28:38 AM] Vhaltz: but otherwise I don't think so

[4/4/2014 7:28:55 AM] Raymond: Yeah, I guess.

[4/4/2014 7:29:34 AM] Manix: anyway i need to like. sleep. it's half one in the morning

[4/4/2014 7:29:47 AM] Vhaltz: cool

[4/4/2014 7:29:56 AM] Raymond: 'aight, good night!

[4/4/2014 7:29:58 AM] Vhaltz: when do you usually get up?

[4/4/2014 7:30:06 AM] Vhaltz: just to get a general idea of how timezones work here

[4/4/2014 7:30:18 AM] Manix: well it's a weekend, and my alarm is set for 8am iirc

[4/4/2014 7:30:29 AM] Manix: i'll be around in ~8 hours minimum

[4/4/2014 7:30:40 AM] Vhaltz: should still be around then I figure

[4/4/2014 7:30:48 AM] Raymond: Likewise

[4/4/2014 7:30:56 AM] Vhaltz: not for long, but still around

[4/4/2014 7:31:03 AM] Vhaltz: well, g'night o7

[4/4/2014 7:31:06 AM] Manix: night

[4/4/2014 7:31:07 AM] Vhaltz: have nice scummy dreams

[4/4/2014 7:31:10 AM] Manix: lol

[4/4/2014 7:32:12 AM] Vhaltz: I'm gonna go do some other stuff for a while because Prims is a gay with a wrecked sleep schedule and there's no telling when he'll start the game

[4/4/2014 7:32:41 AM] Raymond: Well, mine isn't exactly better. xD

[4/4/2014 7:32:49 AM] Raymond: But yeah, have fun!

[4/4/2014 7:33:46 AM] Vhaltz: we should still talk every now and then though, Kaoz suggested it last time I was scum and it's pretty important for the scumteam to not fall apart with bussing leading to personal issues and whatnot, just in case

[4/4/2014 7:34:11 AM] Vhaltz: so lemme know if you have anything you want to bring up and talk about

[4/4/2014 7:34:24 AM] Raymond: Okay, sure

[4/4/2014 7:35:25 AM] Raymond: (I usually avoid bussing my scumbuddies though simply because I'm not very good at it)

[4/4/2014 7:36:55 AM] Vhaltz: I did in my last scumgame and it didn't really turn out really well because by suspecting Eury throughout D1 I locked myself into bussing our godfather

[4/4/2014 7:37:21 AM] Vhaltz: and I also bussed BBM and threw suspicion his way and never voted him

[4/4/2014 7:37:35 AM] Vhaltz: people might pick up on that kind of stuff this time around so idk, I'll be careful if I do bus

[4/4/2014 7:37:40 AM] Raymond: Yeah, if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right. That's why I said I'm not very good at it. xD

[4/4/2014 7:37:51 AM] Vhaltz: well it got me tons of cred

[4/4/2014 7:38:10 AM] Vhaltz: but then I was so townie that the drivers tried to switch the nightill from me to a scummy townie, and a vig shot the scummy townie

[4/4/2014 7:38:12 AM] Vhaltz: so I died

[4/4/2014 7:38:31 AM] Raymond: Oh my. xD

[4/4/2014 7:39:59 AM] Vhaltz: bussing or townreading will probably come in the way of side-suspicions placing you guys at 3rd-4th in suspect lists or townie lists

[4/4/2014 7:41:01 AM] Raymond: Aye

[4/4/2014 7:41:02 AM] Vhaltz: if you guys play it townie enough I can try to come up with good reasons to hard townread you by end of D1 and leave it be at that, as town I got good townreads last game around that point

[4/4/2014 7:41:19 AM] Raymond: I'll try. xD

[4/4/2014 7:42:08 AM] Raymond: What really makes the art of bussing / townreading as scum difficult is the fact that PoE exists. If you townread too many actual townies, PoE is really hard to deal with.

[4/4/2014 7:42:58 AM] Vhaltz: eh, when push comes to shove around D3-D4 and closer to LyLo, you are bound to reconsider your townreads even as town

[4/4/2014 7:43:27 AM] Raymond: That is true

[4/4/2014 7:43:41 AM] Vhaltz: you just have to make it look genuine

[4/4/2014 7:44:00 AM] Vhaltz: like, rolespec leading to suspicion, then read back and case, or something like that

[4/4/2014 7:45:15 AM] Raymond: Btw, I just noticed another critical issue

[4/4/2014 7:45:37 AM] Raymond: If I'm not dead by N2, it'll be ridiculously obvious I'm mafia, as I'm always namekilled as town. xD

[4/4/2014 7:45:51 AM] Vhaltz: namekilled?

[4/4/2014 7:46:14 AM] Raymond: People kill me for being me. For some reason I'm considered a dangerous player I guess? xD

[4/4/2014 7:46:34 AM] Vhaltz: I don't think you have to worry about that in this specific game though

[4/4/2014 7:46:56 AM] Vhaltz: there are a lot of big name players here that people would usually kill by N2

[4/4/2014 7:47:17 AM] Raymond: I guess that is true. xD

[4/4/2014 7:47:33 AM] Vhaltz: say, eclipse, Conq, SB, BBM at least

[4/4/2014 7:48:19 AM] Vhaltz: then there's all the others I haven't played with at all or I haven't played with much

[4/4/2014 7:48:32 AM] Vhaltz: Paper might be dangerous as a townie, I've only ever seen him play scum

[4/4/2014 7:49:05 AM] Raymond: Paper is generally considered a very good player when he can be bothered to actually put effort into the game

[4/4/2014 7:49:25 AM] Vhaltz: that's the impression I got from the champions thread

[4/4/2014 7:51:18 AM] Vhaltz: so there you go, it wouldn't be odd if this game resulted in strong townies still being around D3

[4/4/2014 7:51:55 AM] Raymond: Yeah, I guess with this many, they can't all die by N2. xD

[4/4/2014 7:52:43 AM] Vhaltz: I don't think any of us three would be suspicious getting to D3 unless the game circumstances make us horribly townie

[4/4/2014 7:53:17 AM] Vhaltz: the only two who really respect me enough to kill me N1-N2 would be Kaoz and Paperblade

[4/4/2014 7:53:37 AM] Vhaltz: and even then they probably wouldn't in this game as long as my reads were wrong enough

[4/4/2014 7:54:18 AM] Raymond: Awww. That's not a very nice way of putting it. ;/

[4/4/2014 7:55:57 AM] Vhaltz: it's true though :V I was much more of a scrub back when I played with Conq so he probably wouldn't, and then most of the rest of the playerbase I haven't played with much or at all

[4/4/2014 7:57:24 AM] Vhaltz: I think I only really started getting better reads/play in mafia in my last 3-4 games, so it's fine

[4/4/2014 7:57:30 AM] Raymond: ;/

[4/4/2014 8:00:28 AM] Vhaltz: eh, don't worry about it

[4/4/2014 8:01:23 AM] Vhaltz: it's just hindsight telling me I played significantly worse like 5 months ago, and I wasn't self-deprecating or anything about it, I thought I did alright/good back then

[4/4/2014 8:02:09 AM] Vhaltz: I talk about mafia theory with Kaoz pretty often since I started playing in SF and I think that's where I started getting significantly better

[4/4/2014 8:03:10 AM] Vhaltz: brb getting huge ego and emulating mafia champions play

[4/4/2014 8:12:06 AM] Vhaltz: the point is I don't think we'll have any problems with NK analysis, we should do good as long as we don't make big mistakes

[4/4/2014 8:53:42 AM] Raymond: Sorry, was afk. xD

[4/4/2014 8:54:12 AM] Raymond: But yeah, alright. ^^

[4/4/2014 3:05:58 PM] Manix: 8am more like 9am. good at remembering alarm times

[4/4/2014 3:06:46 PM] Vhaltz: it doesn't really matter, Prims got knocked out by a walrus or something and hasn't shown up to start the game

[4/4/2014 3:07:05 PM] Manix: coff

[4/4/2014 3:09:23 PM] Vhaltz: also ITTD is over

[4/4/2014 3:09:35 PM] Vhaltz: JON WINS

[4/4/2014 3:09:37 PM] Manix: i did notice that

[4/4/2014 3:09:40 PM] Vhaltz: I mean

[4/4/2014 3:09:42 PM] Vhaltz: TOWN WINS

[4/4/2014 3:09:44 PM] Manix: lol

[4/4/2014 3:11:16 PM] Raymond: wb, Manix

[4/4/2014 3:11:37 PM] Manix: yo

[4/4/2014 3:11:43 PM] Raymond: Game still hasn't started, so I'm currently getting my face destroyed by the new FTL.

[4/4/2014 3:11:51 PM] Manix: well, i'll be here for like, half hour to an hour

[4/4/2014 3:11:53 PM] Manix: rip

[4/4/2014 3:12:17 PM] Vhaltz: I'll be around for 1-2hours and then head to bed

[4/4/2014 3:12:18 PM] Raymond: Well, I doubt Prims will show up withhin that time frame. xD"

[4/4/2014 5:42:32 PM] Prims: gamestarted

[4/4/2014 5:43:04 PM] Raymond: !

[4/4/2014 5:44:22 PM] Prims: [Friday, April 04, 2014 7:11 AM] Manix:

<<< well i don't really want to claim full roleclop, just because it's inherently stronger than aligncop after seeing a scumflipFTR Raymond scans as just Neighborizer

[4/4/2014 5:47:12 PM] Prims: (because he's godfather, not because of some weird mechanic about how scum scan like in spellcard)

[4/5/2014 3:19:52 AM] Vhaltz: alright so town probably has a cop variant and a tracker/watcher/follower variant

[4/5/2014 3:21:42 AM] Vhaltz: Prims is not a bastard mod so I doubt he would throw in a godfather and a ninja into a setup without those kinds of investigation

[4/5/2014 3:22:05 AM] Vhaltz: odds are town DOESN'T have a rolecop variant in this case

[4/5/2014 3:22:45 AM] Vhaltz: so it might be a good idea to not claim rolecop altogether

[4/5/2014 3:23:18 AM] Vhaltz: otherwise it would become an issue of who is the more believable investigation role

[4/5/2014 4:28:40 AM] Manix: yeah that's what i was afraid of. shrug

[4/5/2014 5:34:15 AM | Edited 5:34:20 AM] Manix: my brain is actually legit fried so things i say make shit all sense right now

[4/5/2014 5:34:48 AM] Vhaltz: no problem I think

[4/5/2014 5:35:00 AM] Vhaltz: the points being brought up are eh

[4/5/2014 5:35:04 AM] Vhaltz: in general

[4/5/2014 5:35:15 AM] Manix: it's not anything that is actually an alignment tell

[4/5/2014 5:35:39 AM] Manix: and it's rvs shit anyway so it's harder to put it against me later. or something

[4/5/2014 5:36:19 AM] Manix: oh also i decided i'm gonna claim vanilla checker (sees if someone is a vanilla or not)

[4/5/2014 5:36:31 AM] Manix: i think i can work that

[4/5/2014 5:36:35 AM] Manix: i hope.

[4/5/2014 5:36:50 AM] Manix: praying that vanillas don't normally exist

[4/5/2014 5:36:52 AM] Vhaltz: ninja modifier on town might make that suspect though

[4/5/2014 5:36:59 AM] Vhaltz: idk

[4/5/2014 5:37:04 AM] Vhaltz: we'll think about it later I guess

[4/5/2014 5:37:40 AM] Manix: my claim would only care if they were actually vanilla or not, ninja PR would get a negative result

[4/5/2014 5:37:58 AM] Manix: which is the obvious implication of a ninja claim in the first place

[4/5/2014 5:38:06 AM] Manix: oh wait

[4/5/2014 5:38:07 AM] Manix: hold up

[4/5/2014 5:38:13 AM] Manix: "- All players have at least one role-based ability."

[4/5/2014 5:38:16 AM] Manix: that'll do it

[4/5/2014 5:38:30 AM] Vhaltz: huh?

[4/5/2014 5:38:53 AM] Manix: [saturday, April 05, 2014 5:36 AM] Manix:

<<< praying that vanillas don't normally exist

[4/5/2014 5:39:01 AM] Manix: vanillas don't exist, at least normally

[4/5/2014 5:39:06 AM] Manix: i need to start dropping crumbs

[4/5/2014 5:39:52 AM] Vhaltz: but then a vanilla checker is useless?

[4/5/2014 5:40:25 AM] Manix: it definitely implies something about the setup. we already have a ninja claim which divulges setup info

[4/5/2014 5:41:24 AM] Vhaltz: I'm sort of confused here, let me finish up a post first

[4/5/2014 5:41:27 AM] Manix: kk

[4/5/2014 6:03:34 AM] Manix: i need to actually go to sleep now because otherwise i'm gonna like, be a zombie tomorrow

[4/5/2014 6:03:57 AM] Vhaltz: oh, alright, I was just finishing up

[4/5/2014 6:04:10 AM] Vhaltz: we'll talk about the role when you wake up if that's alright with you

[4/5/2014 6:04:14 AM] Manix: sure

[4/5/2014 6:07:01 AM] Vhaltz: well, g'night, I'm off for lunch

[4/5/2014 6:20:11 AM] Raymond: Oh hi

[4/5/2014 6:23:49 AM] Vhaltz: yo

[4/5/2014 6:24:46 AM] Raymond: So like, I'm still catching up on things, but people are already voting you two over a frankly dumb reason? lol

[4/5/2014 6:25:26 AM] Vhaltz: yep

[4/5/2014 6:25:29 AM] Raymond: "This guy said something irrelevant a couple hours into the game, let's lynch him"

[4/5/2014 6:25:47 AM] Vhaltz: probably better to draw attention early than later in D1 though

[4/5/2014 6:26:01 AM] Raymond: I guess so. xD

[4/5/2014 6:29:45 AM] Vhaltz: j00 is literally just sticking to his vote because reaction tests are bad without evaluating whether it applies in context

[4/5/2014 6:30:00 AM] Vhaltz: wtf scum intent is there in jokevoting somebody and then calling it a serious vote in RVS

[4/5/2014 6:30:31 AM] Raymond: Personal bias OP

[4/5/2014 6:31:03 AM] Raymond: Also for the record, had I rolled town, I was actually going to pull a WoMC and claim cop with a guilty for a reaction test, then drop it after a reaction

[4/5/2014 6:31:25 AM] Vhaltz: I should've just gone with claiming dayvig myself actually

[4/5/2014 6:31:31 AM] Vhaltz: but it didn't cross my mind

[4/5/2014 6:32:16 AM] Raymond: Yeah, people usually only get the good ideas when it's already too late, don't they? \o/

[4/5/2014 6:32:28 AM] Raymond: Anyway, gotta get out a post

[4/5/2014 6:32:47 AM] Vhaltz: don't force yourself to if you don't think you'd post as town though :V

[4/5/2014 6:32:56 AM] Raymond: Although I'm already losing track of who voted who like, what, 12 hours into D1? lol

[4/5/2014 6:33:02 AM] Raymond: I would, that's the point

[4/5/2014 6:33:07 AM] Vhaltz: cool

[4/5/2014 6:33:17 AM] Vhaltz: really, best thing is to just not worry about how many votes are where atm

[4/5/2014 6:33:26 AM] Raymond: I guess so

[4/5/2014 6:33:56 AM] Vhaltz: unless you want to actually make wagon analysis or something

[4/5/2014 6:34:54 AM] Raymond: Lessee. xD

[4/5/2014 6:39:41 AM] Prims: i posted a votecount, im going to bed now though

[4/5/2014 6:39:58 AM] Raymond: Oh, thanks

[4/5/2014 6:39:59 AM] Vhaltz: aight

[4/5/2014 6:40:01 AM] Raymond: Good night

[4/5/2014 6:40:06 AM] Vhaltz: o7

[4/5/2014 7:10:46 AM] Raymond: Yeah, didn't really have much choice, nobody else did anything worth pressure-voting for so far

[4/5/2014 7:33:03 AM] Vhaltz: I'll probably just lurk for a long while

[4/5/2014 7:33:27 AM | Edited 7:33:34 AM] Vhaltz: last time I immediately replied to all questions by people it only brought more questions and more confirmation bias on me, and I was town

[4/5/2014 7:35:12 AM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/5/2014 7:36:42 AM] Raymond: Generally, you want to avoid doing/saying things that you'd question yourself if you were town.

Although since this is D1, I doubt you guys will actually be the final lynch for the day

[4/5/2014 7:37:32 AM] Raymond: And I too lurked a bit in my last game despite being town, so that should be fine

[4/5/2014 7:37:59 AM] Vhaltz: I'm pretty sure I'd avoid posting atm as town as well

[4/5/2014 7:38:33 AM] Vhaltz: because people wagoned on me last game over misunderstandings and I was town, and I couldn't really prove to be town through logic/scumhunting until later when there was actual scumhunting to be done

[4/5/2014 7:38:38 AM] Raymond: As obvious as it may be, though, I'll say just in case that you should avoid posting elsewhere while lurking as well, and probably go into ghost mode or log out altogether

[4/5/2014 7:39:06 AM] Vhaltz: I generally check the thread in a private firefox browser when I'm lurking

[4/5/2014 7:39:14 AM] Vhaltz: which makes me a guest

[4/5/2014 7:39:20 AM] Raymond: 'aight, that's good

[4/5/2014 12:47:35 PM] Vhaltz: I'll wait for like an hour and something more and then post again

[4/5/2014 12:47:58 PM] Raymond: Aye

[4/5/2014 12:48:28 PM] Vhaltz: my only issue is that the biggest "scumread" I'd have is j00, mostly due to "reaction tests are bad because x and y" without applying it to gamestate

[4/5/2014 12:48:47 PM] Vhaltz: and I can't find any way of not applying the same thing to your post

[4/5/2014 12:49:24 PM] Raymond: Don't worry about me, I can usually defend myself.

[4/5/2014 12:49:59 PM] Raymond: Although I didn't exactly go "reaction tests are bad lol", I merely inquired what you meant to achieve with that one. :V

[4/5/2014 12:51:32 PM] Raymond: If the previous game I was in taught me anything, it's that it's very important to ask questions, and to decide carefully what to respond to and what to ignore. It's usually better to just ignore unimportant stuff and little jabs at you, as otherwise people will quickly get that "overdefensive" view.

[4/5/2014 12:52:15 PM] Vhaltz: that's the problem though, I always try to answer all of the questions directed at me

[4/5/2014 12:52:28 PM] Raymond: And that's not a good thing! ;/

[4/5/2014 12:52:32 PM] Vhaltz: it feels rude to ignore somebody if you know the question is there

[4/5/2014 12:52:55 PM] Vhaltz: it got me in a very bad spot as town last game

[4/5/2014 12:53:24 PM] Vhaltz: I also got called out for not answering some of the questions though, so people were suspecting me for literally everything

[4/5/2014 12:53:34 PM] Raymond: If a question is genuine, respond to it, of course. But not every question is genuine. In fact, especially in mafia games, many are rhetoric and/or meant to provoke you into doing stupid things.

[4/5/2014 12:55:24 PM | Edited 12:55:33 PM] Raymond: In fact, calling people out on certain questions can shift attention away from you if you do it right.

[4/5/2014 12:57:01 PM] Vhaltz: that's in my notes wrt Kaoz

[4/5/2014 12:57:06 PM] Vhaltz: his question to me is pretty fluffy

[4/5/2014 12:57:07 PM] Raymond: That said: while it's not a good thing to be rude, mafia isn't exactly a game about being very formal and/or polite. Don't think about it too much and ignore things if people get aggressive on a personal level, people usually don't hold that against you (and if they do, that's poor logic)

[4/5/2014 12:57:57 PM] Raymond: Can't check the thread right now, can you give me a quote?

[4/5/2014 12:58:37 PM] Vhaltz: @Vhaltz

Why are you voting BBM just after he declared that he won't be around for an extended period of time? Was there literally no one else you could think of dropping a vote on at that time, or?

[4/5/2014 12:59:18 PM] Vhaltz: which is bad considering that my vote on BBM was like the 3rd serious non-RVS vote, with only BBM/Manix/SB posting at the time

[4/5/2014 1:00:16 PM] Raymond: Well, it's a valid question, considering you're not doing much to help the town progress if you park your vote on someone who isn't going to respond anytime soon. However, if you haven't implied otherwise so far, you could simply go "oh I missed that", I guess.

[4/5/2014 1:00:38 PM] Vhaltz: that's dumb though

[4/5/2014 1:00:54 PM] Vhaltz: if I have a decent scumtell I'm going to vote for scum regardless if they're around or not

[4/5/2014 1:01:03 PM] Raymond: That, on the other hand, is a valid counter

[4/5/2014 1:01:06 PM] Vhaltz: if I find something else worth pushing I'll consider switching for that purpose

[4/5/2014 1:01:18 PM] Raymond: Sure, go with that, that sounds reasonable

[4/5/2014 1:01:19 PM] Vhaltz: but not voting for somebody just because they're away is dumb

[4/5/2014 1:05:38 PM] Raymond: You could also add something along the lines of "having my vote on somebody doesn't prevent me from scumhunting other people".

[4/5/2014 1:40:38 PM] Raymond: Oh yes, let's discuss the setup! I have reason to believe this game contains precisely 14 mafia vigilantes and an ITP infinite deathproof PGO.

[4/5/2014 1:41:17 PM] Vhaltz: the ITP infinite deathproof PGO is the hidden player though

[4/5/2014 1:41:26 PM] Vhaltz: so it's balanced because nobody targets him

[4/5/2014 1:42:57 PM] Raymond: \o/

[4/5/2014 1:43:16 PM] Vhaltz: I'm currently "writing" up a post

[4/5/2014 1:43:26 PM] Vhaltz: I've got most of everything I want to say already noted down

[4/5/2014 1:43:42 PM] Raymond: 'aight

[4/5/2014 1:43:49 PM] Vhaltz: I'll like, explain my reasoning on BBM, vote j00, FoS Kaoz and maybe clipsey

[4/5/2014 1:44:18 PM] Raymond: Sure, seems reasonable

[4/5/2014 4:26:22 PM] Vhaltz: ugh, I'm like legit having a bit of a headache

[4/5/2014 4:26:56 PM] Vhaltz: I wanted to talk a bit about the rolecop thing before manix left but I guess not

[4/5/2014 4:27:06 PM] Manix: hi

[4/5/2014 4:27:10 PM] Manix: i am still here

[4/5/2014 4:27:15 PM] Vhaltz: coolio

[4/5/2014 4:27:28 PM] Raymond: You have a headache, too? Wow

[4/5/2014 4:27:48 PM] Vhaltz: so what were you saying before? is there something in the rules that say there are no actual vanillas in the game?

[4/5/2014 4:27:54 PM] Manix: with all that talk of roleclops, i might just claim it and be done with it

[4/5/2014 4:27:58 PM] Manix: yeah

[4/5/2014 4:28:08 PM] Raymond: There is indeed a rule that everyone has at least one ability

[4/5/2014 4:28:55 PM] Vhaltz: so vanilla checker doesn't really make much sense as a claim then

[4/5/2014 4:29:44 PM] Vhaltz: I guess rolecop should be somewhat believable given that ninja modifiers, post restrictions and anti-town crap fly everywhere in the setup

[4/5/2014 4:29:45 PM] Manix: and that's where it would get some benefit, since we know there is most definitely a vanillizer in the setup. and people will probably claim or softclaim that

[4/5/2014 4:29:59 PM] Vhaltz: the only issue is if Scarlet flips and reveals a godfather

[4/5/2014 4:30:00 PM] Manix: (that they were vanillized)

[4/5/2014 4:30:16 PM] Manix: i'll pull from Old Prims Rulesets

[4/5/2014 4:30:27 PM] Raymond: Well I'll be damned if I die anytime soon

[4/5/2014 4:30:28 PM] Manix: #modmeta2014

[4/5/2014 4:30:34 PM] Raymond: I have a vest for damn's sake. xD

[4/5/2014 4:30:43 PM] Vhaltz: oh true, I forgot that

[4/5/2014 4:30:45 PM] Manix: lynches are kinda OP then eh

[4/5/2014 4:31:08 PM] Raymond: I've never been much of a lynch target, so if I get myself lynched this game, it's official that I suck haha

[4/5/2014 4:31:14 PM] Manix: lol

[4/5/2014 4:33:57 PM] Vhaltz: my play quality appears to be really unstable when I have to try to emulate the one from last game

[4/5/2014 4:34:10 PM] Vhaltz: it'll be better when I get to actually wallpost at nights, probably

[4/5/2014 4:34:19 PM] Manix: woop woop

[4/5/2014 4:34:29 PM] Vhaltz: I hope I don't get lynched

[4/5/2014 4:34:29 PM] Raymond: For some reason I keep second-guessing myself as mafia, but not as town

[4/5/2014 4:34:43 PM] Vhaltz: if I do it'll probably cast heavy suspicions on Refa due to the hard defend though

[4/5/2014 4:34:59 PM] Manix: lol

[4/5/2014 4:35:06 PM] Raymond: I don't think you'll get lynched at this point

[4/5/2014 4:35:24 PM] Raymond: It wasn't exactly a strong wagon to begin with

[4/5/2014 4:35:27 PM] Vhaltz: doesn't seem likely atm but who knows when I might brainfart

[4/5/2014 4:35:29 PM] Manix: paper is actually a potential target for now

[4/5/2014 4:35:34 PM] Manix: but Who Knows

[4/5/2014 4:35:41 PM] Vhaltz: I don't think I'm doing any good compared to Healer

[4/5/2014 4:36:06 PM] Manix: to be fair vhaltz you were a doublevoter bussing your godfather. we thought it was unlikely as heck

[4/5/2014 4:36:23 PM] Raymond: What. xD

[4/5/2014 4:36:34 PM] Vhaltz: I still did better during D1 though

[4/5/2014 4:36:39 PM] Manix: yeah that was a thing raymond

[4/5/2014 4:36:43 PM] Vhaltz: like only Prims suspected me iirc

[4/5/2014 4:36:53 PM] Manix: we don't talk about the rest of the game though.

[4/5/2014 4:36:56 PM] Manix: never

[4/5/2014 4:37:07 PM] Raymond: Looks like I missed out. D: xD

[4/5/2014 4:38:00 PM] Prims: I dropped you completely after the bus just because I thought the loss outweighed the benifits for scum

[4/5/2014 4:38:02 PM] Prims: then lol drivers happened

[4/5/2014 4:38:32 PM] Vhaltz: I felt cheated out of a win from that =(

[4/5/2014 4:38:49 PM] Manix: at least you weren't lied to by the mod

[4/5/2014 4:38:49 PM] Vhaltz: like dying because of being townie as scum was the last thing I was expecting to happen to me ever

[4/5/2014 4:38:50 PM] Prims: well bussing D1 in role madness set-ups is a crapshoot

[4/5/2014 4:39:00 PM] Prims: [saturday, April 05, 2014 4:38 PM] Vhaltz:

<<< like dying because of being townie as scum was the last thing I was expecting to happen to me everVillains II

[4/5/2014 4:39:15 PM] Prims: see what I just said about bussing D1 in role madness set-ups

[4/5/2014 4:39:56 PM] Vhaltz: I like legit closed myself into the Eury lynch though, the bus wasn't planned

[4/5/2014 4:40:25 PM] Vhaltz: I had to come up with some crazy shit reason to pull off a Shinori vote and I thought he was legit townie at deadline so it was very risky

[4/5/2014 4:41:20 PM] Vhaltz: funny thing is my reads on Eury/BBM that started the bus and attempted to thin out throughout D1 were actually made before I replaced in

[4/5/2014 4:41:44 PM] Vhaltz: I never would've guessed Paper was scum there

[4/5/2014 4:41:56 PM] Prims: I had such a strong D1 that game then I dropped 2/3 of my right reads D2 rip

[4/5/2014 4:42:24 PM] Prims: on one hand I feel like I've had really great reads on SF lately (healer, ITTD, hard NOCs)

[4/5/2014 4:42:35 PM] Prims: but on the other I kinda think scum was not very hard to catch in those games aside from healer

[4/5/2014 4:42:51 PM] Prims: kaoz was pretty hard to catch in healer!

[4/5/2014 4:43:02 PM] Vhaltz: lmao

[4/5/2014 4:43:10 PM] Vhaltz: trigger warning for Manix

[4/5/2014 4:43:19 PM] Vhaltz: let's not go into that

[4/5/2014 4:44:05 PM] Prims: I feel pretty great about suspecting all 3 maf D1 of ittd though because I felt like my reads sucked while I was actually doing it

[4/5/2014 4:44:28 PM] Prims: although Eury was town. I misread her as maf always for some reason

[4/5/2014 4:44:33 PM] Prims: I do that to Refa too

[4/5/2014 4:44:34 PM] Vhaltz: lol, same

[4/5/2014 4:44:53 PM] Vhaltz: I second-guessed myself at N2 and for some reason dropped SK-hunting entirely

[4/5/2014 4:45:11 PM] Vhaltz: when one of my earlier cases had fit the description perfectly (scorri)

[4/5/2014 4:45:12 PM] Prims: I didn't catch SK-scorri until she claimed the commute, just because there was no reason for her to commute n1 as town

[4/5/2014 4:45:28 PM] Prims: would be much better to save that for when she really needed it and was a notable target

[4/5/2014 4:45:46 PM] Vhaltz: I was surprised that people took so long to take notice of that

[4/5/2014 4:45:52 PM] Vhaltz: and that Marth didn't push it harder

[4/5/2014 4:46:18 PM] Vhaltz: but being informed observer is 10/10

[4/5/2014 4:47:14 PM] Vhaltz: poor Refa is going to get pushed as scum pretty hard this game

[4/5/2014 4:47:48 PM] Manix: Not My Problem

[4/5/2014 4:49:05 PM] Vhaltz: part of the reason why my team got carried a whole phase forward in healer was because I unvoted Grass towards end phase

[4/5/2014 4:49:31 PM] Vhaltz: I felt bad for him and thought Objection deserved to be lynched as town a lot more so I let that happen instead

[4/5/2014 4:49:40 PM] Prims: that was probably a strong play just cuz it lynched the tracker

[4/5/2014 4:49:45 PM] Vhaltz: then I died to drivevig and Grass gathered ALL the suspicion

[4/5/2014 4:49:47 PM] Prims: and set up another mislynch

[4/5/2014 4:49:55 PM] Prims: I already thought Grass was really scummy that game though

[4/5/2014 4:50:23 PM] Prims: lynching him D2 would've probably put us in a really good position

[4/5/2014 4:50:33 PM] Prims: since we'd still have our tracker and manix and I would stop tunneling

[4/5/2014 4:50:38 PM] Prims: which I guess evens out you lynching the godfather D1

[4/5/2014 4:51:17 PM] Vhaltz: funniest part of that game was watching you constantly fakeclaim as oracle

[4/5/2014 4:51:41 PM] Prims: that was so stupid, you died on the night you scanned me and shouldn't have received a result :salt:

[4/5/2014 4:51:59 PM] Vhaltz: it didn't really make much difference though

[4/5/2014 4:52:10 PM] Vhaltz: I already suspected that you had a role that activated upon death

[4/5/2014 4:52:22 PM] Vhaltz: I thought it was bomb and Kaoz thought it was oracle

[4/5/2014 4:52:41 PM] Vhaltz: so the kill wasn't gonna go your way until you were legit dangerous

[4/5/2014 4:53:18 PM] Vhaltz: I should probably go to bed

[4/5/2014 4:53:33 PM] Vhaltz: Eclipse can probably see the IP of guests checking the thread or something like that

[4/5/2014 4:53:58 PM] Vhaltz: not that she would do it to check for lurkers, but just in case

[4/5/2014 4:54:21 PM] Raymond: Ugh

Of course almost every single player on SF I can't usually get a read on had to be in the same game

[4/5/2014 4:54:47 PM] Vhaltz: case Conq then :V

[4/5/2014 4:55:08 PM] Vhaltz: protip: probably not a good idea

[4/5/2014 4:55:17 PM] Raymond: May try to do that, but I literally can't process any posts right now, my brain is dead

[4/5/2014 4:55:56 PM] Vhaltz: that sucks

[4/5/2014 4:56:00 PM] Prims: http://puu.sh/7XufT.png meanwhile in persona

[4/5/2014 4:56:03 PM] Vhaltz: that's partially why I didn't wait longer to post

[4/5/2014 4:56:19 PM] Prims: Also 36 page day 1

[4/5/2014 4:56:27 PM] Raymond: [saturday, April 05, 2014 4:55 PM] Vhaltz:

<<< protip: probably not a good ideaWell I basically OMGUS'd Rajam the entire last game and nobody called me out on it. xD

[4/5/2014 4:56:44 PM] Vhaltz: that's not the issue though

[4/5/2014 4:56:54 PM] Raymond: [saturday, April 05, 2014 4:56 PM] Prims:

<<< http://puu.sh/7XufT.png meanwhile in personaOuch. xD

[4/5/2014 4:56:59 PM] Vhaltz: Conq tends to react rather strongly to cases on him if he doesn't feel that they make sense

[4/5/2014 4:57:26 PM] Raymond: challengeaccepted.jpg

[4/5/2014 4:58:29 PM] Vhaltz: by reacting strongly I mean he may turn it into a quotefight about ripping each other's cases apart and being really loud about it

[4/5/2014 4:58:58 PM] Raymond: Well screw him, then

[4/5/2014 4:59:48 PM] Vhaltz: I think he mellow'ed out a little in his recent games in MotK

[4/5/2014 5:00:44 PM] Vhaltz: like people were suspecting him somewhat in one game where BT, Bard and him were alive by D4/D5 or so and he handled it pretty well

[4/5/2014 5:01:00 PM | Edited 5:01:08 PM] Manix: then they lynched bt then shadoweh

[4/5/2014 5:01:02 PM] Manix: rip town

[4/5/2014 5:01:19 PM] Vhaltz: I would've lynched Conq then Shadoweh, lol

[4/5/2014 5:01:33 PM] Vhaltz: Bard played a legit good game there

[4/5/2014 5:01:54 PM] Vhaltz: either way, the point is I wouldn't really risk it

[4/5/2014 5:02:27 PM] Prims: i still thought it was skypaladin before i thought about his extra kill so lol

[4/5/2014 5:02:53 PM] Vhaltz: same, I actually made a bet with Mitsuki that Skypal was scum and lost =/

[4/5/2014 5:03:02 PM] Prims: also town could've won if shadoweh didn't screw up her watch

[4/5/2014 5:03:17 PM] Prims: proving that scum wins aren't about which faction plays better, it's about which faction throws the hardest

[4/5/2014 5:03:25 PM] Vhaltz: I didn't pay any attention to the roles

[4/5/2014 5:03:45 PM] Manix: #motk: Throw Harder

[4/5/2014 5:03:49 PM] Vhaltz: except when the whole deal with Zak happened I think

[4/5/2014 5:04:02 PM] Prims: tl;dr shadoweh had a watch on one night and didn't watch the heavily implied (i think he mightve been outright claimed? idr) jailer\

[4/5/2014 5:04:31 PM] Vhaltz: who did she watch?

[4/5/2014 5:04:35 PM] Prims: Bard :V

[4/5/2014 5:04:51 PM] Vhaltz: wasn't Bard the jailer though?

[4/5/2014 5:05:16 PM] Vhaltz: I suck at remembering things I pay minimal attention to

[4/5/2014 5:05:48 PM] Manix: the jailer was sb

[4/5/2014 5:05:55 PM] Manix: i had to think about that

[4/5/2014 5:06:26 PM] Manix: then town proceeded to also attempt to spec who sb targeted

[4/5/2014 5:06:36 PM] Vhaltz: since when does Manix lurk MotK games

[4/5/2014 5:06:51 PM] Manix: since sb complains about them to me

[4/5/2014 5:06:55 PM] Manix: (read: a while)

[4/5/2014 5:07:00 PM] Vhaltz: lol

[4/5/2014 5:07:02 PM] Vhaltz: poor SB

[4/5/2014 5:07:11 PM] Vhaltz: people on MotK generally can't read him at all

[4/5/2014 5:07:23 PM] Vhaltz: I got the hang of it once I started playing in SF

[4/5/2014 5:07:36 PM] Vhaltz: the general rule is to sheep SB always

[4/5/2014 5:07:44 PM] Manix: sb is an easy read imo

[4/5/2014 5:07:50 PM] Vhaltz: if he's town he might find scum, if he's scum he'll lead you to his buddies

[4/5/2014 5:08:13 PM] Manix: anyway i must actually go now

[4/5/2014 5:08:15 PM] Manix: l8r

[4/5/2014 5:08:20 PM] Vhaltz: bye o7

[4/5/2014 5:08:48 PM] Vhaltz: Raymond how's the posting doing?

[4/5/2014 5:09:22 PM] Raymond: Bye, Manix

I'm currently ISOing people like I would do if I was town

[4/5/2014 5:09:29 PM] Raymond: That seems to be helping somewhat

[4/5/2014 5:26:16 PM] Vhaltz: well imma go to bed now

[4/5/2014 5:26:38 PM] Vhaltz: good luck with the post and all, I can't stay any longer

[4/5/2014 5:26:50 PM] Vhaltz: later! o7

[4/5/2014 5:27:07 PM] Raymond: Good night

[4/5/2014 6:26:16 PM] Raymond: Well, I guess I should go get some sleep as well. Good night!

[4/6/2014 5:20:37 AM] Raymond: Hi

[4/6/2014 5:20:42 AM] Raymond: Did we win yet

[4/6/2014 5:21:02 AM] Manix: unfortunately not

[4/6/2014 5:21:08 AM] Raymond: Awww

[4/6/2014 5:33:45 AM] Vhaltz: I'd vote Refa for the sake of lol full scum bandwagon but eh

[4/6/2014 5:33:58 AM] Raymond: xD

[4/6/2014 6:05:40 AM] Vhaltz: I've got my post ready but I gotta go get lunch

[4/6/2014 6:05:51 AM] Vhaltz: I'll look it over a few more times before I throw it out once I come back

[4/6/2014 6:06:10 AM] Raymond: 'aight

[4/6/2014 6:14:05 AM] Raymond: Also I've never really crumbed roles before, is my neighbor crumb ridiculously blatant yet

[4/6/2014 6:14:54 AM] Manix: not to people not looking for it specifically, but it'll help when claiming (not that it isn't provable anyway but details)

[4/6/2014 6:16:05 AM] Raymond: I guess I hit the mark, then. Crumbs aren't supposed to be obvious unless you're specifically looking for them, right? xD

[4/6/2014 6:16:26 AM] Manix: pretty much yeah

[4/6/2014 6:16:48 AM] Manix: i'll put a crumb around somewhere at some point. that point is not now because screw posting

[4/6/2014 6:16:56 AM] Raymond: xD

[4/6/2014 6:23:09 AM] Vhaltz: I completely forgot that I was supposed to crumb jailor

[4/6/2014 6:23:57 AM] Vhaltz: I'll make a code for the STOP codon, making it the first letter in each paragraph or something

[4/6/2014 6:24:18 AM] Manix: ok

[4/6/2014 6:24:40 AM] Manix: no one will ever figure it out so it's safe from an townie perspective

[4/6/2014 6:25:20 AM] Vhaltz: I'm such a good student I have to look this up in the codon table

[4/6/2014 6:25:39 AM] Raymond: I'm such a good student, I never even heard of it. \o/

[4/6/2014 6:25:58 AM] Vhaltz: I study biotech though

[4/6/2014 6:34:34 AM] Vhaltz: I just noticed I kind of misrepped j00

[4/6/2014 6:35:07 AM] Vhaltz: I'll fix that in a bit when done pretending I'm having lunch now instead of 10 minutes ago

[4/6/2014 6:35:21 AM] Raymond: xD"

[4/6/2014 6:35:39 AM] Vhaltz: I just didn't want to update my opinions on Ray with his newer posts yet

[4/6/2014 7:37:10 AM] Vhaltz: I think I managed to put out a pretty good jig with the j00 thing

[4/6/2014 7:37:32 AM] Vhaltz: hopefully it won't attract much attention from people who can read me better

[4/6/2014 7:50:46 AM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/6/2014 8:10:56 AM] Vhaltz: fucking stop codons starting with "U"

[4/6/2014 8:11:06 AM] Vhaltz: it's hard to start a paragraph with "U" without sounding completely unnatural

[4/6/2014 8:11:16 AM] Raymond: xD"

[4/6/2014 8:11:32 AM] Raymond: Abuse that "unlike". :V

[4/6/2014 8:11:48 AM] Vhaltz: I actually used "unlikely"

[4/6/2014 8:11:58 AM] Vhaltz: "Unlikely that Kaoz is faking the lack of time"

[4/6/2014 8:12:07 AM] Raymond: That works, too. xD

[4/6/2014 8:12:11 AM] Vhaltz: still sounds forced as fuck

[4/6/2014 8:12:19 AM] Raymond: A bit, yes

[4/6/2014 8:12:23 AM] Vhaltz: I'm not a native speaker so they should be used to my odd wordings anyway

[4/6/2014 9:08:11 AM] Raymond: Not that it matters at this point, but I guess you can also start a sentence with "Upon looking at it a bit more closely" or something similar without sounding overly unnatural

[4/6/2014 9:08:56 AM] Vhaltz: well, I might use it again at some point

[4/6/2014 9:09:18 AM] Vhaltz: so that the "UGA" isn't a one-time thing that could've been a fluke or whatever

[4/6/2014 9:09:35 AM] Raymond: Cool, there you go then. xD

[4/6/2014 4:09:48 PM] Raymond: Am I really THAT abrasive when playing mafia? xD

[4/6/2014 4:10:43 PM] Vhaltz: what do you mean with that?

[4/6/2014 4:11:14 PM] Raymond: In Paper's latest post in the game, he literally said I've always been "abrasive and hostile". xD

[4/6/2014 4:12:30 PM] Raymond: I mean, yes, mafia is srs business, but I've never perceived myself as being particularly rude when playing. D:

[4/6/2014 4:12:31 PM] Vhaltz: lol

[4/6/2014 4:13:04 PM] Vhaltz: I dunno man, if you feel that it would worry you as town then question him about it as something aside from the game

[4/6/2014 4:14:05 PM] Raymond: I don't think that'd help my case though, so I guess I'll just ignore that remark. xD"

[4/6/2014 4:14:47 PM] Vhaltz: he's not really suspecting you with it though

[4/6/2014 4:14:54 PM] Vhaltz: he's calling me out for reading your attitude wrong

[4/6/2014 4:15:23 PM] Raymond: That's exactly why I don't want to ask him about it. xD"

[4/6/2014 4:15:29 PM] Vhaltz: which is really dumb because I misread Poly as being a strong player in Healer D1, lack of knowledge on players is a thing

[4/6/2014 4:15:53 PM] Raymond: [sunday, April 06, 2014 4:15 PM] Vhaltz:

<<< lack of knowledge on players is a thingIndeed it is!

[4/6/2014 4:16:09 PM] Raymond: Which is why I avoid using meta, for instance.

[4/6/2014 4:16:25 PM] Raymond: (That and I'm just terrible at it)

[4/6/2014 5:00:02 PM] Manix: i should probably make a post

[4/6/2014 5:00:06 PM] Manix: but words are hard

[4/6/2014 5:00:19 PM] Raymond: I feel your pain

[4/6/2014 5:00:21 PM] Vhaltz: I'm in the process of making a post

[4/6/2014 5:00:29 PM] Vhaltz: I'm having trouble with leaving my vote somewhere though

[4/6/2014 5:01:03 PM] Manix: eh i'll just play the "i'm at uni card" to not post (which isn't completely false, i just have a 3 hour break)

[4/6/2014 5:45:44 PM] Vhaltz: tbh as town I'd probably be fighting it out with clipsey

[4/6/2014 5:46:16 PM] Vhaltz: it annoys me greatly that people instantly assume that my cases are dumb/bad/wrong just because they rely heavily on meta and context

[4/6/2014 5:46:30 PM] Manix: clipsey is like that in general

[4/6/2014 5:46:38 PM] Manix: also if as town you'd fight it out, do it

[4/6/2014 5:46:40 PM] Vhaltz: people were calling my cases on Shinori, scorri and Kay bad last game and I was 100% spot on

[4/6/2014 5:46:48 PM] Raymond: [sunday, April 06, 2014 5:46 PM] Manix:

<<< also if as town you'd fight it out, do it^

[4/6/2014 5:54:52 PM] Vhaltz: so I did

[4/6/2014 6:32:28 PM] Raymond: I should probably stop posting when it's 3 AM or later over here, but I can't really not say anything. Bah.

[4/6/2014 6:32:57 PM] Manix: i am making a post, finally

[4/6/2014 6:33:06 PM] Manix: it's mostly defense but i don't give a fuck

[4/6/2014 6:33:41 PM] Raymond: inb4 I get lynched, one of you gets shot by a vig, the other gets killed by a hypothetical SK and we lose N1

[4/6/2014 6:52:03 PM] Manix: look at those scattered votals at T-24 hours

[4/6/2014 6:52:04 PM] Manix: mmmm

[4/6/2014 6:52:40 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/6/2014 7:37:42 PM] Raymond: Blah may have to bus

[4/6/2014 7:38:13 PM] Raymond: Except I guess I could pretend to not be online near phase end to avoid switching wagons

[4/6/2014 7:38:43 PM] Manix: rip

[4/6/2014 7:39:08 PM | Edited 7:39:12 PM] Manix: i can fudge my way to non-content by getting "dragged away" when i get home and then i had to go to laser tag

[4/6/2014 7:39:33 PM] Manix: then use "it's my birthday" as a further point for tomorrow

[4/6/2014 7:39:45 PM] Raymond: Oh

[4/6/2014 7:42:28 PM] Manix: anyway i'd say you can just pretend that you're not around for phase end

[4/6/2014 7:42:32 PM] Manix: probably the best plan

[4/6/2014 7:44:14 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/6/2014 7:44:47 PM] Raymond: Well, phase end is like 4 AM for me, not being around at that time is perfectly reasonable actually lol.

[4/6/2014 7:44:53 PM] Manix: lol

[4/6/2014 7:50:36 PM] Raymond: Speaking of it, I guess I should stop wrecking my sleep schedule even harder than it already is and finally go get some sleep, it's almost 5 AM lol

[4/6/2014 7:50:50 PM] Manix: yeahhhh probs

[4/6/2014 7:50:54 PM] Raymond: G' night!

[4/6/2014 7:51:08 PM] Manix: night

[4/6/2014 8:29:06 PM] Prims: the whole SB meta cases thing is funny to me because i have like a 99% certain meta towntell for SB which has never failed me so far

[4/6/2014 8:29:16 PM] Prims: i dunno if other people have noticed it though so lol.

[4/6/2014 8:29:44 PM] Manix: i know how2read sb pretty well i think. hard to explain but yeah

[4/6/2014 8:29:45 PM] Prims: (but it's a general tell which I believe works on some other people too, just most commonly for SB)

[4/6/2014 8:30:11 PM] Prims: I can identify town!SB usually, I can't really catch scum!SB though

[4/6/2014 8:31:17 PM] Prims: i dunno if i should explain my tell or be lame and keep it to myself so i can read him easily :T

[4/6/2014 8:34:21 PM] Manix: eh

[4/6/2014 8:34:25 PM] Manix: i don't really care

[4/7/2014 1:29:23 AM] Vhaltz: I haven't really failed at reading SB in like the last 5-6 games he's been in though

[4/7/2014 1:29:59 AM] Vhaltz: as town I took a little longer to voice my read on him because I wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong, but I'm getting more confident in my ability to read him

[4/7/2014 4:12:51 AM] Vhaltz: I'm probably going to case Paper

[4/7/2014 4:13:27 AM] Manix: i literally tried to reread people and my brain died

[4/7/2014 4:13:29 AM] Manix: bad sign

[4/7/2014 4:13:49 AM] Vhaltz: you should probably make a big opener post for D2 or something

[4/7/2014 4:14:00 AM] Vhaltz: otherwise people are going to be suspicious of your continued excuses for lack of activity

[4/7/2014 4:14:23 AM] Manix: probably

[4/7/2014 4:17:21 AM] Vhaltz: shit, should be getting ready to leave

[4/7/2014 4:17:27 AM] Manix: rip

[4/7/2014 4:18:26 AM] Vhaltz: also Prims what I said about traveling Thursday/Friday is true so I may actually ask for a replacement then

[4/7/2014 4:23:00 AM] Prims: I don't really like temp replacements, it'd make more sense to just say you're V/LA

[4/7/2014 4:23:16 AM] Prims: although i guess you would be gone for 2/3 of the day

[4/7/2014 4:23:17 AM] Prims: iunno, we'll see

[4/7/2014 4:23:33 AM] Vhaltz: thing is I'm actually going over to Mitsuki's

[4/7/2014 4:24:03 AM | Edited 4:24:28 AM] Vhaltz: and there's like two social gatherings I'd have to attend to on Saturday and Sunday, plus I shouldn't really be focusing much on mafia while I'm there

[4/7/2014 4:24:35 AM] Prims: blrgh

[4/7/2014 4:24:50 AM] Prims: well Dormio just got on #sforestmafia so maybe I will bribe him later :V

[4/7/2014 4:44:44 AM] Prims: Manix when are you going to review qprogue mafia.

[4/7/2014 4:44:59 AM] Prims: that's proabbly the last thing you want to do right now but

[4/7/2014 4:45:14 AM] Manix: remind me in like, a day or two

[4/7/2014 7:04:55 AM] Raymond: lol 11 hours 'till deadline and nobody is at more than 2 votes yet

[4/7/2014 10:12:29 AM] Vhaltz: happy birthday Manix

[4/7/2014 10:12:34 AM] Vhaltz: better spend all day mafiaing

[4/7/2014 10:12:56 AM] Raymond: lol yeah

[4/7/2014 10:13:28 AM] Raymond: Anything interesting happen since I left?

[4/7/2014 10:13:56 AM] Vhaltz: idk when exactly you left since we don't really say bye or anything xD

[4/7/2014 10:14:03 AM] Vhaltz: SB also dislikes Paper

[4/7/2014 10:14:15 AM] Vhaltz: I have a big case on him written up waiting to be posted

[4/7/2014 10:14:28 AM] Raymond: I mean, since the last time I posted in the thread. xD"

[4/7/2014 10:15:16 AM] Raymond: A Paper case, huh? I'm terrible at reading Paper but I didn't get much of a scum impression from him so far

[4/7/2014 10:15:52 AM] Vhaltz: his last contentpost is terrible

[4/7/2014 10:16:20 AM] Vhaltz: SB has already delved into it just now so I might lose credit on it but w/e

[4/7/2014 10:16:37 AM] Raymond: Oh, ok

[4/7/2014 11:03:53 AM] Vhaltz: I feel pretty good about this case

[4/7/2014 11:04:39 AM] Vhaltz: managed to keep it meta-free, the hunting for intent within context is there without mentioning Paperblade!town and Paperblade!scum at any point

[4/7/2014 11:05:01 AM] Raymond: gj

[4/7/2014 11:14:17 AM] Raymond: Okay, yeah, the Paper case is looking good

[4/7/2014 11:14:26 AM] Raymond: I think I'll just remain passive and let it happen

[4/7/2014 11:14:47 AM] Vhaltz: I have like this massive wall on Paperblade sitting on the posting section right now

[4/7/2014 11:14:56 AM] Vhaltz: I even cut down stuff in it

[4/7/2014 11:15:36 AM] Vhaltz: it's terrible because he actually caught scum with his votes but looks extremely questionable

[4/7/2014 11:16:23 AM] Raymond: Well, we've pretty much all been under suspicion by now. xD

[4/7/2014 11:16:38 AM] Raymond: Although apparently SB dropped my case so yay I guess

[4/7/2014 2:11:55 PM] Vhaltz: ftr I actually promised Mitsuki I would stop spending so much time on mafia at nights

[4/7/2014 2:13:37 PM] Vhaltz: since I went to bed at like 3:30 AM yesterday, and even though I didn't actually have practicals today I'm starting them tomorrow, so we agreed that I stop mafiaing at 11PM from now on regardless of alignment

[4/7/2014 2:14:03 PM] Raymond: Yeah, that's probably reasonable

[4/7/2014 2:14:46 PM] Vhaltz: I'd probably end up with Prims-tier screwed sleep schedule if she didn't scold me when I spend too much time on mafia tbh

[4/7/2014 2:17:34 PM] Vhaltz: anyway, are you planning on popping into the thread at some point?

[4/7/2014 2:17:42 PM] Vhaltz: or just gonna lurk it out?

[4/7/2014 2:17:58 PM] Raymond: I'll probably legit stay away from SF until phase end

[4/7/2014 2:18:16 PM] Vhaltz: it's a good idea

[4/7/2014 2:18:30 PM] Vhaltz: the only problem is if they can't reach a lynch with the people available

[4/7/2014 2:19:01 PM] Raymond: Well, like I said, they need to get their shit together. xD

[4/7/2014 5:39:26 PM] Manix: okay probably rip me

[4/7/2014 5:39:39 PM] Manix: i'm kinda bad at scum

[4/7/2014 5:39:42 PM] Manix: maybe a lot.

[4/7/2014 5:40:26 PM] Raymond: What happened

[4/7/2014 5:40:41 PM] Manix: i'm at L-1

[4/7/2014 5:40:47 PM] Raymond: Wait what

[4/7/2014 5:40:50 PM] Manix: mostly bc people don't want to lynch paperboard

[4/7/2014 5:40:57 PM] Raymond: What happened to the Paperblade wagon

[4/7/2014 5:41:07 PM] Manix: it's just kinda sitting there at 3 votes

[4/7/2014 5:41:23 PM] Raymond: Huh.

[4/7/2014 5:42:11 PM] Raymond: Well that sucks

[4/7/2014 5:42:47 PM] Manix: i think you'll have to carry the game so have fun

[4/7/2014 5:42:57 PM] Raymond: Ugh

[4/7/2014 5:43:15 PM] Raymond: I'm horrible at being scum. xD

[4/7/2014 5:46:00 PM] Manix: well at least i claimed vanilla checker to make people think there's a scum vanillizer after i flip

[4/7/2014 5:49:08 PM] Manix: inb4 a NL though

[4/7/2014 5:49:20 PM] Raymond: That would be hilarious

[4/7/2014 5:49:39 PM] Raymond: Don't they only have, like, 11 minutes left?

[4/7/2014 5:49:43 PM] Manix: yeah

[4/7/2014 5:49:52 PM] Manix: and i don't think anyone else is actually around to vote me

[4/7/2014 5:49:55 PM] Manix: rofl

[4/7/2014 5:50:00 PM] Raymond: gg

[4/7/2014 5:50:57 PM] Prims: Manix selfvote do it

[4/7/2014 5:51:08 PM] Manix: no

[4/7/2014 5:51:26 PM] Manix: i'm not dumb

[4/7/2014 5:56:55 PM] Manix: lol bbm never saw my claim

[4/7/2014 5:56:57 PM] Manix: gg

[4/7/2014 5:57:14 PM] Raymond: Reading is too hard

[spoiler=Night 1] [4/7/2014 5:58:39 PM] *** Manix has changed the conversation topic to "#sfmafia towns: now with more NL's" ***

[4/7/2014 6:01:17 PM] Raymond: Clearly, No Lynch is so OP that doing it more than once per game had to be banned

[4/7/2014 6:01:28 PM] Manix: hapy birthday me i'm alive

[4/7/2014 6:01:36 PM] Raymond: So the NL actually happened? lol

[4/7/2014 6:01:40 PM] Manix: yeah

[4/7/2014 6:01:43 PM] Raymond: gj

[4/7/2014 6:01:46 PM] Manix: also bbm doesn't think my claim is a scumclaim

[4/7/2014 6:01:46 PM] Manix: rofl

[4/7/2014 6:02:46 PM] Raymond: For some reason the most outrageous claims turn out to be the best

[4/7/2014 6:02:53 PM] Manix: i should not have gotten away with that

[4/7/2014 6:02:54 PM] Manix: #yolo

[4/7/2014 6:03:19 PM] Manix: anyway i have class now

[4/7/2014 6:03:51 PM] Raymond: And I should actually go to bed

[4/7/2014 6:04:04 PM] Raymond: So yeah, see you guys in like 12 hours. xD

[4/7/2014 11:32:32 PM] Vhaltz: lol, wow

[4/7/2014 11:32:49 PM] Vhaltz: I expected to see a lynch on Manix or myself there

[4/7/2014 11:32:59 PM] Manix: we're too gud

[4/7/2014 11:44:31 PM] Vhaltz: who should me NK?

[4/7/2014 11:44:46 PM] Vhaltz: we*

[4/7/2014 11:44:46 PM] Vhaltz: derp

[4/7/2014 11:44:56 PM] Manix: hmm

[4/7/2014 11:44:57 PM] Manix: idk

[4/7/2014 11:45:10 PM] Manix: sb maybe, unless you have a good cop read in someone

[4/7/2014 11:45:56 PM] Vhaltz: I'm kind of worried about Paper

[4/7/2014 11:46:13 PM] Vhaltz: I can't tell if he still suspects us or not

[4/7/2014 11:46:57 PM] Manix: #yolo

[4/7/2014 11:47:19 PM] Vhaltz: + inventor might come up with all kinds of shit and I don't think I can bs up reasons to jail him with his deadline posts

[4/7/2014 11:48:13 PM] Manix: "protection"

[4/7/2014 11:48:43 PM] Vhaltz: I'd jail Conq over Paper for protection

[4/7/2014 11:49:25 PM] Manix: hmm

[4/7/2014 11:49:27 PM] Manix: ok

[4/7/2014 11:49:56 PM] Vhaltz: if I wanted to jail somebody else it'd have to be because I think they're scum

[4/8/2014 12:04:33 AM] Vhaltz: anyway I gotta go to practicals

[4/8/2014 12:05:11 AM] Vhaltz: we don't have much time where we're actually online at the same time so I figure we should think about our night actions and discuss them when you wake up

[4/8/2014 12:07:31 AM] Manix: kk

[4/8/2014 6:05:45 AM] Manix: okay been doing some reading and i reckon cop is either kaoz or refa, ~maybe~ conq if he activates a cop shot at 4+ votes. saying that i don't want to shoot kaoz bc inactive and maybe not refa due to me losing my case. at the same time, i almost want to shoot refa as a backward implication thing/WIFOM

[4/8/2014 6:07:28 AM] Manix: also in terms of town roles: cop/doc/tracker most probably exist, vig/masons definitely do not because of my role, vanillizer is probably town due to claiming vanillized backup being "scummy in context"

[4/8/2014 6:10:23 AM] Manix: in other news i can probably coast off my claim for ED2 so I get a little time to get cases out. honestly i've been a bit too busy today doing stuff and i'm sure not making cases just before sleeping

[4/8/2014 6:35:04 AM] Raymond: I don't think there's a plain alignment cop in this game, actually

[4/8/2014 6:35:31 AM] Manix: well it's probably not unlimited, by any means

[4/8/2014 6:35:53 AM] Manix: but i'd still like them ded if possible.

[4/8/2014 6:35:58 AM] Raymond: I can imagine a JoaT with a cop shot or a wizard variant, but...

[4/8/2014 6:37:33 AM] Raymond: Also I guess Paper's items will have a vig and a cop shot among them

[4/8/2014 6:38:40 AM] Raymond: Really, I kinda want to have Conq gone because I don't particularly like the implications of his claim

[4/8/2014 6:39:01 AM] Raymond: Whatever happens if he gets to 4+ votes, I don't think it's something we want

[4/8/2014 6:39:18 AM] Manix: i wouldn't be opposed to a conq kill

[4/8/2014 6:39:45 AM] Raymond: As for our other night actions, I night to check up on some stuff first

Prims, are you there?

[4/8/2014 6:40:05 AM] Raymond: *I need

[4/8/2014 6:40:12 AM] Raymond: I'm still asleep

[4/8/2014 6:40:17 AM] Manix: rip

[4/8/2014 6:41:21 AM] Raymond: Doesn't seem like he's here, so for the time being here's what I've got:

[4/8/2014 6:41:59 AM] Prims: hi

[4/8/2014 6:42:05 AM] Raymond: Oh, hi

[4/8/2014 6:43:20 AM] Raymond: Can you confirm two things, please:

- I assume that if I invite and kill the same person in the same night, the strongman part of my role will apply? (Rather than just to people I invited on previous nights)

- I can OC with my neighbors even at night, yes?

[4/8/2014 6:43:58 AM] Prims: yes and yes, though you can't OC with somebody on the night you target them since they dont get the quicktopic until morning

[4/8/2014 6:44:10 AM] Raymond: Excellent, thanks

[4/8/2014 6:45:54 AM] Raymond: That means that the instant Vhaltz makes a post at night, I have the perfect excuse to neighbor him regardless of his alignment because it allows me to have things forwarded into the thread at night

[4/8/2014 6:46:45 AM] Manix: so basically what you want to do is neighborize someone but claim you targeted vhaltz, yes?

[4/8/2014 6:46:59 AM] Raymond: No, I will actually target Vhaltz the first time

[4/8/2014 6:47:02 AM] Manix: (obviously with the requisite that said neighbourize is ded)

[4/8/2014 6:47:02 AM] Manix: o

[4/8/2014 6:47:50 AM] Raymond: As I'm pretty sure any other people I invite into my neighbor thread can read what was posted there previously, so it'd be obvious if I didn't actually invite him

[4/8/2014 6:48:01 AM] Manix: right

[4/8/2014 6:48:07 AM] Manix: #smarts

[4/8/2014 6:50:08 AM] Raymond: Did you have anyone in particular in mind you wanted to rolecop?

[4/8/2014 6:50:41 AM] Manix: not really, since i probably need to use it to avoid a tracker calling bs on me

[4/8/2014 6:50:58 AM] Manix: and i haven't quite fiugred out how i'm going to figure out who i target.

[4/8/2014 6:52:30 AM] Raymond: I guess you might want to target someone who claimed part of a role, but not all of it? If there was a scum vanillizer, I'd assume they'd target someone who claimed something that implies a potentially dangerous role

[4/8/2014 6:52:59 AM] Raymond: Like Paper, I guess, since he outright claimed, but I guess CLIPSEY! or Conq would also work

[4/8/2014 6:53:09 AM] Manix: well there's the thing though, knowing that someone is vanilla or not does nothing to actually implicate anyone

[4/8/2014 6:53:22 AM] Manix: it is only useful if someone is "faking" vanilla

[4/8/2014 6:53:47 AM] Manix: shrug

[4/8/2014 6:54:06 AM] Raymond: Well, then you have an excuse to just target pretty much whomever because nobody is currently claiming to be vanilla

[4/8/2014 6:54:17 AM] Manix: pretty much

[4/8/2014 6:55:08 AM] Raymond: In that case, I'm of half a mind to want CLIPSEY! checked because while the Ninja modifier can be applied as a troll modifier to pretty much anything, it makes the most sense to apply it to killing roles

[4/8/2014 6:55:49 AM] Manix: i really don't think there are any other kills out there because of my role. think what would happen if they got vanillized

[4/8/2014 6:56:04 AM] Raymond: Do keep in mind I have a BP, though

[4/8/2014 6:56:15 AM] Raymond: I doubt I'd be given a BP if there were no nightkills other than ours around

[4/8/2014 6:56:21 AM] Manix: prims normally attaches the godfather modifier to a BP anyway

[4/8/2014 6:56:33 AM] Manix: regardless of nightkil potential

[4/8/2014 6:56:45 AM] Manix: (well there could be a driver. i'll buy that)

[4/8/2014 6:56:56 AM] Manix: (or other redirecting role)

[4/8/2014 6:57:12 AM] Raymond: I guess there could be a bomb, but...

[4/8/2014 6:57:25 AM] Raymond: Blah, rolespeccing won't really get us anywhere

[4/8/2014 6:57:44 AM] Manix: so basically kill con, do other stuff

[4/8/2014 6:57:47 AM] Manix: *conq

[4/8/2014 6:58:48 AM] Raymond: I guess we might as well check Kaoz then

From my experience, getting a claim out of him is difficult

[4/8/2014 6:59:01 AM] Manix: shore

[4/8/2014 6:59:56 AM] Raymond: As for jailing, maybe Paper?

[4/8/2014 7:00:41 AM] Raymond: Although I dunno if it's more like traditional jailing in that you get to talk to the target, or more like kidnapping in that it's just a roleblock that also protects

[4/8/2014 7:01:22 AM] Raymond: Actually, thinking about it, I have no idea how the jailing ability really works

[4/8/2014 7:01:37 AM] Manix: jailkeeper generally refers to roleblock+protect

[4/8/2014 7:01:45 AM] Manix: jailer would be the OC variant

[4/8/2014 7:02:00 AM] Raymond: Oh

[4/8/2014 7:02:07 AM] Raymond: I didn't even know there was a difference. xD

[4/8/2014 7:02:12 AM] Manix: lol

[4/8/2014 7:03:44 AM] Raymond: In that case, if Vhaltz can reasonably say he's suspicious of Paper, I think jailing him would be a good move? Otherwise probably not

[4/8/2014 7:04:58 AM] Raymond: Who does the kill?

[4/8/2014 7:05:11 AM] Manix: hmmmm

[4/8/2014 7:05:36 AM] Manix: i feel like i'm probably the most expendable, so probably me

[4/8/2014 7:06:23 AM] Raymond: The backup part seems like it'd be really strong if you got to actually make use of it, but from a suspicion standpoint, I guess I'd have to agree. ;/

[4/8/2014 7:18:46 AM] Raymond: Posted in the quicktopic for reference

[4/8/2014 7:18:56 AM] Manix: kk

[4/8/2014 10:14:29 AM] Vhaltz: don't think I can say I'm suspicious of Paper, lol

[4/8/2014 10:14:49 AM] Raymond: Hi, Vhaltz

[4/8/2014 10:14:54 AM] Vhaltz: yo

[4/8/2014 10:15:16 AM] Vhaltz: I talked with Paper a little when I was scum replacing him in Healer

[4/8/2014 10:15:55 AM] Vhaltz: and he admits that he sucks at playing scum, his scumposts are really bland and he doesn't have any conviction as scum that he'd be able to effectively fake emotion

[4/8/2014 10:16:18 AM] Vhaltz: if we're leaving Paper alive the safest option is probably going to be reasoning with him

[4/8/2014 10:16:37 AM] Raymond: Well we can always kill him N2 I guess

[4/8/2014 10:17:02 AM] Raymond: Anyway, whom COULD you reasonably say you're suspicious of? xD

[4/8/2014 10:17:06 AM] Raymond: Would CLIPSEY! work?

[4/8/2014 10:20:23 AM] Vhaltz: I'm probably going to say I'll look into you/Strege/Clipsey

[4/8/2014 10:21:16 AM] Vhaltz: Prims some of these gachimuchi videos are like, totally not safe for work

[4/8/2014 10:21:57 AM] Vhaltz: I feel like I should post them under a spoiler or I could get banned or something

[4/8/2014 10:22:17 AM] Raymond: [Tuesday, April 08, 2014 10:20 AM] Vhaltz:

<<< I'm probably going to say I'll look into you/Strege/ClipseySure, I guess.

Gonna be busy for a couple of hours, I'll respond to stuff when I can though

[4/8/2014 10:22:35 AM] Vhaltz: mkay

[4/8/2014 1:05:10 PM] Vhaltz: wait you guys think Refa is likely the cop?

[4/8/2014 1:05:23 PM] Vhaltz: do you think he'd be that blatant and say "my role so gooooood"?

[4/8/2014 1:20:50 PM] Raymond: Wait, we think Refa is the cop?

[4/8/2014 1:21:21 PM] Vhaltz: Manix said it before, like Kaoz or Refa is the cop

[4/8/2014 1:21:57 PM] Raymond: I don't think anything came of that? I doubt there even IS a plain cop, fwiw

[4/8/2014 3:01:54 PM] Vhaltz: man I'm like legit freaking tired right now

[4/8/2014 3:02:29 PM] Vhaltz: in healer I'd be constantly rereading to come up with new content but right now it doesn't seem possible because I have a lot less time

[4/8/2014 3:03:44 PM] Raymond: ;/

[4/8/2014 3:04:05 PM] Raymond: Did you make a post yet?

[4/8/2014 3:04:11 PM] Vhaltz: yeah

[4/8/2014 3:04:18 PM] Vhaltz: but it's really bareboned

[4/8/2014 3:04:33 PM] Raymond: Well, I don't think anyone will hold that against you N1

[4/8/2014 3:05:40 PM] Vhaltz: oh btw Prims

[4/8/2014 3:05:54 PM] Vhaltz: I asked Elieson if he'd be willing to sub and he said sure

[4/8/2014 3:06:31 PM] Vhaltz: I haven't told him I'm scum but we talked about his play and he told me he's bad at being scum so idk how that will work out but

[4/8/2014 3:06:57 PM] Raymond: xD"

[4/8/2014 3:07:07 PM] Vhaltz: I'm barely able to keep up right now so I probably outright won't be able from Thursday to Sunday

[4/8/2014 3:07:50 PM] Vhaltz: and well, most people might not suspect me for my N1 post but I get the feeling that Paper and SB will push me D2

[4/8/2014 3:08:31 PM] Vhaltz: I'm kinda sad about killing Conq because he's been defending me but I guess it's what it takes to keep Manix alive

[4/8/2014 3:10:34 PM] Raymond: I'd honestly be rather surprised if Manix were not to get turbo'd the instant D2 starts. xD"

[4/8/2014 3:11:29 PM] Vhaltz: if it looks inevitable I'll try to make a bus case to get the slot a little cred before I replace out

[4/8/2014 3:11:50 PM] Vhaltz: but I think Manix can do better than he's been doing so far

[4/8/2014 3:12:19 PM] Vhaltz: well I haven't actually seen him play as scum before but

[4/8/2014 3:12:52 PM] Vhaltz: also I only found out today by looking at the general SF forum that Manix is 20

[4/8/2014 3:12:58 PM] Vhaltz: I thought he was older than me for some reason

[4/8/2014 3:13:21 PM] Raymond: Some of the ages in SF are really surprising. xD

[4/8/2014 3:13:42 PM] Vhaltz: I don't know how old Balc is

[4/8/2014 3:14:04 PM] Vhaltz: but I laughed when he posted about being old and not understanding the code

[4/8/2014 3:14:45 PM] Raymond: I recall reading that Bal is actually one of the oldest members in the forums

I think he's like 27 or something? Don't quote me on it

[4/8/2014 3:15:05 PM] Vhaltz: hahahaha

[4/8/2014 3:15:30 PM] Vhaltz: if this all gets pasted onto the QT or something and Shadoweh reads postgame for this she's going to feel so old

[4/8/2014 3:16:03 PM] Vhaltz: (she's a player in MotK that's 28 or so)

[4/8/2014 3:16:05 PM] Raymond: xD"

[4/8/2014 3:16:23 PM] Vhaltz: she's been lurking around the forum these days and is probably reading the game actually

[4/8/2014 3:24:04 PM] Vhaltz: so is BT

[4/8/2014 3:24:40 PM] Vhaltz: I kinda want to ask them what they think of my alignment but no talk about ongoing games is a thing

[4/8/2014 3:24:52 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/8/2014 3:26:03 PM] Vhaltz: oh, by the way

[4/8/2014 3:26:13 PM] Vhaltz: you were going to neighbourize me, right?

[4/8/2014 3:26:18 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/8/2014 3:26:37 PM] Vhaltz: do you think you'd do that as town considering you were suspecting me and all?

[4/8/2014 3:27:44 PM] Raymond: Yes. After realizing you can post at night, I'd neighborize you regardless of what alignment I think you have simply so I can have my share of that ability.

[4/8/2014 3:28:09 PM] Raymond: After all, two insomniacs are better than one, right? :newyears:

[4/8/2014 3:28:26 PM] Vhaltz: lmao

[4/8/2014 3:28:44 PM] Vhaltz: well idk how I'd play neighborizer since I never rolled it, so

[4/8/2014 3:28:53 PM] Raymond: Neither do I, but that seems like a good use. xD

[4/8/2014 3:30:42 PM] Vhaltz: faking the whole neighbor QT will be hard

[4/8/2014 3:30:52 PM] Vhaltz: but if we pull it off it should be cool if one of us flips

[4/8/2014 3:31:20 PM] Raymond: [Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:30 PM] Vhaltz:

<<< faking the whole neighbor QT will be hardYeah, that's what worries me most

[4/8/2014 3:31:21 PM] Vhaltz: I don't think I'm distancing with Manix very well but between us it's going pretty well

[4/8/2014 3:32:59 PM] Raymond: In fact, I'm strongly considering doing the N2 kill just so that I have to spend less time actually upholding the facade in the neighbor QT. That, and if I actually invite too many townies, they might actually benefit from all the OC they gain, that wouldn't be terribly good

[4/8/2014 3:33:53 PM] Vhaltz: hmmm?

[4/8/2014 3:34:02 PM] Vhaltz: can you neighbourize and strongkill on the same night?

[4/8/2014 3:34:16 PM] Raymond: Yes, I asked Prims for confirmation on that

[4/8/2014 3:34:31 PM] Raymond: I can strongkill whomever I neighborize

[4/8/2014 3:34:53 PM] Vhaltz: I missed that apparently

[4/8/2014 3:35:17 PM] Raymond: About nine hours ago in the Skype log

[4/8/2014 3:35:42 PM] Vhaltz: lol I trust that you're telling the truth I'm not gonna go back and look for it

[4/8/2014 3:36:11 PM] Raymond: Lazy. :V xD

[4/8/2014 3:36:43 PM] Vhaltz: that's actually like, nº1 meta scumtell to use on me

[4/8/2014 3:36:56 PM] Vhaltz: if I say "I will reread this later" I'm probably scum

[4/8/2014 3:37:18 PM] Raymond: xD

[4/8/2014 3:37:46 PM] Raymond: Well, rejoice, for I absolutely suck at using meta and will probably never think of applying this to you in later games!

[4/8/2014 3:38:31 PM] Vhaltz: you probably use it more than you think though

[4/8/2014 3:39:10 PM] Vhaltz: you wouldn't vote Prims over Lynch All Liars if he came up with some odd fakeclaim as town

[4/8/2014 3:40:20 PM] Raymond: I do know I subconsciously apply a few things, yes (for instance, I know that Kaoz always lurks as either alignment and thus don't take that as a scumtell from him), but I'd never go look at previous games just to find some meta to apply. xD

[4/8/2014 3:40:58 PM] Vhaltz: I only really do that if I'm dealing with somebody new to me and I think my case hinges a lot on finding out what their usual play looks like

[4/8/2014 3:41:38 PM] Vhaltz: last game I was town and checked a scumgame on Poly and a towngame from Green Poet I think

[4/8/2014 3:41:49 PM] Raymond: If I can't make a case without applying someone's "usual play", I usually don't. It's some kind of policy of mine I guess.

[4/8/2014 3:42:16 PM] Vhaltz: well it's not like the case isn't valid

[4/8/2014 3:42:39 PM] Vhaltz: the case is usually alright by itself, I just need to figure out if I think it's catching scum or not

[4/8/2014 3:43:10 PM] Raymond: And that's what I'm also bad at

[4/8/2014 3:43:36 PM] Raymond: I have a tendency to attack people over weak cases and bad logic rather than actually trying to understand the intent behind it

[4/8/2014 3:44:30 PM] Vhaltz: well it's not so much bad logic as internal inconsistency that finds scum more often

[4/8/2014 3:44:40 PM] Raymond: Good grief, if all of this is posted in the postgame, I can never play mafia again. xD

[4/8/2014 3:45:19 PM] Vhaltz: like Manix's read on Refa D1 was inconsistent and Conq cornered him on it, that's totally a scumtell

[4/8/2014 3:45:42 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/8/2014 3:46:08 PM] Raymond: Although even town make mistakes like that, so it's not foolproof

[4/8/2014 3:46:17 PM] Vhaltz: honestly I'm wondering if I should switch my read on SB because the "yeah my vote on Paper was kind of exaggerated"

[4/8/2014 3:46:36 PM] Vhaltz: nah nvm

[4/8/2014 3:47:32 PM] Raymond: But anyway!

I'm really hungry and I need to do some things regarding the Touhou draft, so unless there's still something to be dealt with regarding our night actions, I'm gonna be busy for a while now.

[4/8/2014 3:47:58 PM] Vhaltz: alright

[4/8/2014 3:48:22 PM] Vhaltz: if anybody feels like changing kill/jail to kill Paper and jail Conq I'd be cool with that

[4/8/2014 3:48:48 PM] Vhaltz: it's probably not a bad alternative since Conq might get docced if town has a protective role

[4/8/2014 3:49:20 PM] Vhaltz: otherwise kill Conq/jail eclipse is fine with me

[4/8/2014 3:54:15 PM] Raymond: Hm, I see your point

[4/8/2014 3:54:31 PM] Raymond: I don't think Manix is around to change the kill target, though

[4/8/2014 3:54:51 PM] Vhaltz: well, night phase is probably somewhat extended

[4/8/2014 3:55:08 PM] Vhaltz: not much but Manix should get back on at some point before phase end

[4/8/2014 3:55:14 PM] Raymond: Hmmm

[4/8/2014 3:55:17 PM] Vhaltz: I left the suggestion on the QT so he'll see it right away

[4/8/2014 3:55:29 PM] Vhaltz: I'm fine with either so whatever floats his boat

[4/8/2014 3:55:40 PM] Raymond: Okay

[4/8/2014 4:07:09 PM] Prims: Bal is 30 iirc

[4/8/2014 4:08:16 PM] Raymond: Yeah, me reading about his age being 27 might've been a couple of years ago. xD

[4/8/2014 4:08:55 PM] Raymond: Btw, since you're here, just for future reference: can we send in / override actions for our scumbuddies in case they're not online to change it themselves?

[4/8/2014 4:09:42 PM] Prims: sure

[4/8/2014 4:09:51 PM] Raymond: Okay, cool

[4/8/2014 4:48:10 PM] Manix: [Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:14 PM] Vhaltz:

<<< but I laughed when he posted about being old and not understanding the codebal is 30

[4/8/2014 4:48:53 PM] Manix: also hi

[4/8/2014 4:49:02 PM] Manix: i was up late last night and yeah

[4/8/2014 5:01:08 PM] Raymond: Yo, Manix

[4/8/2014 5:01:44 PM] Manix: so basically what i gleamed was "kill paper scan kaoz", yes?

[4/8/2014 5:47:47 PM] Raymond: Kill Paper, scan Kaoz, jail Conq I think was the latest plan

[4/8/2014 10:36:58 PM] Prims: Vhaltz: mods are being sticklers about your PR so I guess you're just normal insomniac

[4/8/2014 10:37:02 PM] Prims: have fun lol.

[4/8/2014 10:37:16 PM] Manix: rip

[4/8/2014 10:37:42 PM] Manix: so when is phase gonna end

[4/8/2014 10:37:59 PM] Prims: probably 6PM PST tomorrow

[4/8/2014 10:38:34 PM] Manix: ok

[4/8/2014 11:50:45 PM] Vhaltz: lmao

[4/8/2014 11:51:18 PM] Vhaltz: I kinda feel bad about that because after looking through like 15 videos I actually found one that was mostly safe for work

[4/8/2014 11:52:05 PM] Vhaltz: but that was quite a while after I posted and was past my limit for mafia

[4/8/2014 11:52:56 PM] Vhaltz: it was actually pretty funny as well

[4/9/2014 4:33:07 AM] Manix: rip vhaltz's time

[4/9/2014 4:33:26 AM] Vhaltz: I literally just posted about it

[4/9/2014 4:33:57 AM] Vhaltz: last night a friend came up on facebook and was like "hey we should meet up on Monday"

[4/9/2014 4:34:32 AM] Vhaltz: I shouldn't even spend time on mafia until late tonight because I have to pack for the trip and etc

[4/9/2014 4:34:37 AM] Vhaltz: but I'll manage somehow I guess

[4/9/2014 4:34:51 AM] Manix: do what you can, or something

[4/9/2014 4:35:01 AM] Vhaltz: anyway gonna get lunch in like 5 minutes, is the kill Paper/jail Conq etc the final plan?

[4/9/2014 4:35:06 AM] Manix: RL is more important than mafuia

[4/9/2014 4:35:13 AM] Manix: i think so yes

[4/9/2014 4:35:36 AM] Vhaltz: I've learned my lesson to never join a mafia game when I know things will get busy soon after game start

[4/9/2014 4:35:49 AM] Manix: it's a harsh lesson but it's a thing

[4/9/2014 4:35:50 AM] Vhaltz: I was just glad I was invited and wanted to participate I guess

[4/9/2014 4:36:31 AM] Vhaltz: if Conq is alive tomorrow Strege is probably a good option to go after

[4/9/2014 4:37:02 AM] Manix: well i think it's possible for me to bs up a case there considering i said he was unmemorable lol

[4/9/2014 4:37:57 AM] Vhaltz: just don't tunnel and give reads on other players and such

[4/9/2014 4:38:16 AM] Manix: tunneling is my townmeta lol

[4/9/2014 4:38:25 AM] Vhaltz: other odd things I noticed were BBM saying Paper was "too willing to change his reads" which was a screwup and completely inaccurate

[4/9/2014 4:38:54 AM] Vhaltz: and SB acted really defensively to Refa's post where he answered my question as to why he had been suspicious of SB

[4/9/2014 4:39:12 AM] Vhaltz: he was just answering to a question so interpreting it as a push is kinda scummy and all

[4/9/2014 4:39:28 AM] Manix: but refa's post itself was actually bad because there was no indication of where it all came from

[4/9/2014 4:39:29 AM] Manix: etc

[4/9/2014 4:40:25 AM] Vhaltz: well, I'm just listing potential things that are odd and you guys could use for a case

[4/9/2014 4:40:34 AM] Vhaltz: I'm obviously not using the SB thing because I thought he was town

[4/9/2014 4:40:54 AM] Vhaltz: if anything I'll mention it as "eh I'm unsure now look out for him" if I make a final readspost before I go

[4/9/2014 4:41:03 AM] Manix: kk

[4/9/2014 4:41:40 AM] Vhaltz: well gotta go get lunch now, I have class in like 1h20m and I'll sleep through it if I want until right before class start to eat

[4/9/2014 4:41:45 AM] Vhaltz: later o7

[4/9/2014 4:41:48 AM] Manix: see ya

[4/9/2014 6:44:08 AM] Raymond: Yo

[4/9/2014 6:44:23 AM] Manix: yo

[4/9/2014 10:18:53 AM] Vhaltz: night phase is still running I see

[4/9/2014 10:19:10 AM] Raymond: Looks like it

[4/9/2014 3:20:54 PM] Vhaltz: well it's kind of a shame I have to go because I finally managed to step up my game with those posts there

[4/9/2014 3:22:24 PM] Vhaltz: I'm here and talking to Mitsuki while packing stuff up for tomorrow just in case you guys need anything

[4/9/2014 3:34:48 PM] Vhaltz: oh, by the way, I forgot BT was very clearly reading the game and he would be a cool replacement for any of me/Balc imo

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[4/9/2014 6:08:05 PM] *** Prims added ChrisO . ***

[4/9/2014 6:08:15 PM] Prims: elie is subbing in for vhaltz so im adding him here

[4/9/2014 6:10:03 PM] Raymond: Alright

[4/9/2014 6:10:15 PM] Raymond: Hi, Elie

[4/9/2014 6:11:29 PM] Raymond: Wait what

[4/9/2014 6:12:20 PM] Raymond: Okay, I should probably go check the flip first. xD

[4/9/2014 6:12:47 PM] Raymond: Oh, there is no flip yet

[4/9/2014 6:14:29 PM] ChrisO .: Wat

[4/9/2014 6:14:29 PM] ChrisO .: Hi

[4/9/2014 6:14:36 PM] ChrisO .: Im pro

[4/9/2014 6:14:38 PM] ChrisO .: Taking notes

[4/9/2014 6:14:52 PM] ChrisO .: Lol I pinged rayray as null

[4/9/2014 6:15:00 PM] ChrisO .: I got some work to do

[4/9/2014 6:15:09 PM] ChrisO .: And rayray and I are neighbors apparently

[4/9/2014 6:15:32 PM] Raymond: Well, I guess that means that I'm not doing a completely terrible job. :B

[4/9/2014 6:15:49 PM] Raymond: Yeah, you're insomniac, so I targeted you because that's what I'd do as town

[4/9/2014 6:16:00 PM] Raymond: I have absolutely no idea how CLIPSEY! ended up in there, though

[4/9/2014 6:17:45 PM] Raymond: Okay, so apparently Refa is announcer?

[4/9/2014 6:18:19 PM] ChrisO .: Neat?

[4/9/2014 6:19:51 PM] Raymond: I'm kinda confused right now. xD

[4/9/2014 6:21:43 PM] ChrisO .: Blame manix

[4/9/2014 6:21:50 PM] ChrisO .: Also

[4/9/2014 6:21:50 PM] ChrisO .: My jailkeep

[4/9/2014 6:21:56 PM] ChrisO .: Was ?postponed?

[4/9/2014 6:22:01 PM] Raymond: Huh

[4/9/2014 6:22:04 PM] ChrisO .: Hasnt resolved YET appare tly

[4/9/2014 6:22:13 PM] ChrisO .: Which I dunno how to interpret that

[4/9/2014 6:23:29 PM] Raymond: Well, there's quite a lot of stuff going on that's messing with our actions, it seems. xD

[4/9/2014 6:27:01 PM] Manix: i knew it

[4/9/2014 6:27:10 PM] Manix: kaoz is cop

[4/9/2014 6:27:33 PM] Manix: that's my result

[4/9/2014 6:27:47 PM] Manix: @prims: no vanillized players?

[4/9/2014 6:27:51 PM] Raymond: Well, we have a N2 kill target, then!

[4/9/2014 6:28:02 PM] Manix: #goodcopreads2014

[4/9/2014 6:28:09 PM] Manix: also hi elie

[4/9/2014 6:28:12 PM] Raymond: Raymond gives Manix a cookie.

[4/9/2014 6:28:54 PM] Manix: elie: probably a role delayer

[4/9/2014 6:29:02 PM] Manix: you may want to like, crumb something about that

[4/9/2014 6:32:40 PM] Manix: also refa is not subtle about who the announcer is.

[4/9/2014 6:32:59 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/9/2014 6:33:04 PM] Raymond: It's literally right there

[4/9/2014 6:48:22 PM] Manix: okay refa claims vanilla announcer. my claim is really gud

[4/9/2014 6:48:41 PM] Raymond: wait what

[4/9/2014 6:48:49 PM] Manix: he basically implied it just now

[4/9/2014 6:48:58 PM] Manix: " Also I do want to say that I'm not bothered by Manix claiming a role that doesn't do much because my perspective should be obvious?"

[4/9/2014 6:51:06 PM] Raymond: I'd have read that as "my role doesn't do much either so *shrug*"

[4/9/2014 6:51:13 PM] Prims: "We should know what eclipse is though, thanks to MAFIA PERSON MANIX WHO IS LIKE ALWAYS ROLECOP"

[4/9/2014 6:51:16 PM] Prims: js manix targeted kaoz

[4/9/2014 6:51:20 PM] Prims: since that's what he said in the pm

[4/9/2014 6:51:25 PM] Prims: if he was supposed to target eclipse then you guys were too confusing

[4/9/2014 6:51:32 PM] Manix: no i wanted to target kaoz

[4/9/2014 6:51:35 PM] Prims: [Wednesday, April 09, 2014 6:27 PM] Manix:

<<< @prims: no vanillized players?nope

[4/9/2014 6:51:35 PM] Manix: fite me

[4/9/2014 6:56:10 PM] Raymond: Also ftr, my confusion isn't faked. I really don't have any idea what's going on. xD

[4/9/2014 6:56:18 PM] Manix: lol

[4/9/2014 6:56:22 PM] ChrisO .: ok on my comp

[4/9/2014 6:56:41 PM] Manix: hi

[4/9/2014 6:57:19 PM] Raymond: Yo

[4/9/2014 7:01:04 PM] Manix: i will brb

[4/9/2014 7:02:11 PM] ChrisO .: k

[4/9/2014 7:02:16 PM] ChrisO .: boom

[4/9/2014 7:02:18 PM] ChrisO .: Refa counter

[4/9/2014 7:11:35 PM] Raymond: I'm running out of synonyms for "to welcome"

[4/9/2014 7:11:59 PM] Manix: i think people will get the point when you point them out

[4/9/2014 7:12:25 PM] Raymond: It's just kind of fun sticking with a theme, though. xD

[4/9/2014 7:12:35 PM] Manix: use them in other languages

[4/9/2014 7:12:38 PM] Manix: that'll work

[4/9/2014 7:13:10 PM] Raymond: That'll only last me another day, I don't speak that many different languages. xD"

[4/9/2014 7:13:24 PM] Raymond: Ah well

[4/9/2014 7:13:31 PM] Raymond: I'll just repeat the previous ones, I guess. xD

[4/9/2014 7:13:33 PM] Manix: google translate op

[4/9/2014 7:16:04 PM] ChrisO .: Boron

[4/9/2014 7:16:05 PM] ChrisO .: laughed at me

[4/9/2014 7:16:08 PM] ChrisO .: when I translated to her

[4/9/2014 7:16:11 PM] ChrisO .: "Good Night" in Korean

[4/9/2014 7:16:18 PM] ChrisO .: so Google Translate

[4/9/2014 7:16:19 PM] ChrisO .: Fail

[4/9/2014 7:16:22 PM] Manix: lol

[4/9/2014 7:37:48 PM] Raymond: Raymond is terrible at bussing his scumbuddies

[4/9/2014 7:37:53 PM] Raymond: Raymond proceeds to do nothing but

[4/9/2014 7:37:58 PM] ChrisO .: ha

[4/9/2014 7:38:00 PM] ChrisO .: I'm not sure what to do

[4/9/2014 7:38:01 PM] Raymond: I'm terrible at this game

[4/9/2014 7:38:07 PM] ChrisO .: since I'm just genuinely awful as not town

[4/9/2014 7:38:10 PM] ChrisO .: (and pretty lame as town)

[4/9/2014 7:38:14 PM] ChrisO .: SO

[4/9/2014 7:38:17 PM] ChrisO .: I'm probably

[4/9/2014 7:38:21 PM] ChrisO .: going to try to spike a fight

[4/9/2014 7:38:27 PM] ChrisO .: with one of you two

[4/9/2014 7:39:07 PM] Raymond: I want to avoid a fight with you because I want to (pretend to) abuse that insomniac ability of yours. :V xD

[4/9/2014 7:42:02 PM] ChrisO .: Yea

[4/9/2014 7:42:05 PM] ChrisO .: Not gonna respond to your post

[4/9/2014 7:42:10 PM] ChrisO .: as much as I want to

[4/9/2014 7:42:15 PM] ChrisO .: anything i say would result in a fight

[4/9/2014 7:42:16 PM] ChrisO .: and

[4/9/2014 7:42:24 PM] ChrisO .: we don't need that right now

[4/9/2014 7:42:33 PM] ChrisO .: and I SEE WHAT I'M GOOD FOR

[4/9/2014 7:42:34 PM] ChrisO .: MY ROLE

[4/9/2014 7:42:37 PM] ChrisO .: YEA OK

[4/9/2014 7:42:42 PM] ChrisO .: I'LL PULL A KAOZ AND JUST VANISH FOR A WHILE

[4/9/2014 7:42:47 PM] ChrisO .: :D

[4/9/2014 7:42:48 PM] Raymond: xD

[4/9/2014 7:43:16 PM] ChrisO .: Srsly though more people should probably post things

[4/9/2014 7:43:24 PM] ChrisO .: and I shoul dprobably read the last 1/3 of the day

[4/9/2014 7:43:26 PM] ChrisO .: though I skimmed it

[4/9/2014 7:43:28 PM] ChrisO .: and it was 10 hours of

[4/9/2014 7:43:31 PM] ChrisO .: let's nolynch

[4/9/2014 7:44:06 PM] Manix: "let's fail to lynch because we don't have enough people"

[4/9/2014 7:44:09 PM] Raymond: It was actually 10 hours of "let's wagon someone with no votes on them while there aren't enough people around to make it happen"

[4/9/2014 7:44:46 PM] ChrisO .: Not gonna lie, i'm surprised manix lived

[4/9/2014 7:44:48 PM] ChrisO .: happy birthday man

[4/9/2014 7:44:49 PM] Manix: i don't have a problem with that because it still makes us one mislynch closer to winning

[4/9/2014 7:44:54 PM | Edited 7:44:59 PM] Manix: happy birthday me

[4/9/2014 7:45:45 PM] ChrisO .: well

[4/9/2014 7:45:48 PM] ChrisO .: a NL

[4/9/2014 7:45:49 PM] ChrisO .: is better

[4/9/2014 7:45:52 PM] ChrisO .: than a mafia lynch

[4/9/2014 7:45:53 PM] ChrisO .: SO

[4/9/2014 7:46:06 PM] Raymond: Indeed

[4/9/2014 7:46:12 PM] ChrisO .: Scumlet

[4/9/2014 7:46:18 PM] ChrisO .: Scumnix

[4/9/2014 7:46:19 PM] ChrisO .: Eliescum

[4/9/2014 7:46:35 PM] Raymond: [Wednesday, April 09, 2014 7:46 PM] ChrisO .:

<<< ScumletRajam kept calling me that in the last game. I was town. xD

[4/9/2014 7:46:43 PM] ChrisO .: Haha

[4/9/2014 7:59:47 PM] Raymond: Anyway, it's like 5 AM over here. I should probably go to bed. xD"

[4/9/2014 7:59:53 PM] Raymond: Good night!

[4/9/2014 8:00:53 PM] ChrisO .: Ahhh ok

[4/9/2014 8:00:56 PM] ChrisO .: G'night

[4/9/2014 8:06:18 PM] ChrisO .: AND

[4/9/2014 8:06:22 PM] ChrisO .: BBM cracked me

[4/9/2014 8:06:24 PM] ChrisO .: What a surprise

[4/9/2014 9:13:51 PM] ChrisO .: manixxxxx

[4/9/2014 9:14:02 PM] ChrisO .: i don't like being throw into the spotlight unintentionally

[4/9/2014 9:14:17 PM] Manix: rip

[4/9/2014 9:39:46 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/9/2014 9:39:49 PM] ChrisO .: ily conq

[4/9/2014 9:39:50 PM] ChrisO .: also

[4/9/2014 9:40:01 PM] ChrisO .: did we get fakes and I mised em?

[4/9/2014 9:40:06 PM] Manix: nope

[4/9/2014 9:40:18 PM] Manix: fakes were basically claiming from our own roles

[4/9/2014 9:40:24 PM] ChrisO .: mmk

[4/9/2014 9:40:39 PM] Manix: i think vhaltz was going to just claim his full role, which you are propagating anyway so

[4/9/2014 9:40:57 PM] ChrisO .: may as well

[4/9/2014 9:41:03 PM] ChrisO .: Jailor isn't necessarily a one-sided claim

[4/9/2014 9:41:12 PM] Manix: that is true

[4/9/2014 9:41:18 PM] ChrisO .: and the insomniac

[4/9/2014 9:41:18 PM] ChrisO .: well

[4/9/2014 9:41:21 PM] ChrisO .: who the fuq cares

[4/9/2014 9:41:24 PM] Manix: lol

[4/9/2014 9:41:29 PM] ChrisO .: I get to post like

[4/9/2014 9:41:30 PM] ChrisO .: Hard Gay

[4/9/2014 9:41:52 PM] Manix: the posting restriction got revoked so rip

[4/9/2014 9:42:01 PM] ChrisO .: go eclipse

[4/9/2014 9:42:29 PM] Manix: anyway my laptop is legit about to die so i will be off

[4/9/2014 9:42:35 PM] ChrisO .: okbya~

[4/10/2014 5:03:46 AM] Vhaltz: do I get to talk with my scumteamz after replacing?

[4/10/2014 5:04:01 AM] Manix: probably not

[4/10/2014 5:04:10 AM] Manix: at least not in the sense of giving advice and stuff

[4/10/2014 5:04:28 AM] Vhaltz: aw

[4/10/2014 5:04:47 AM] Vhaltz: I remember paperblade sticking around somewhat after I replaced him in healer mafia

[4/10/2014 5:04:55 AM] Vhaltz: didn't know if it was a usual thing or not

[4/10/2014 5:05:16 AM] Vhaltz: I probably don't get enough time to read the game so it's probably for the better anyway

[4/10/2014 7:14:55 AM] ChrisO .: ugh

[4/10/2014 8:41:49 AM] Raymond: Oh look, people are disagreeing on wagons again

[4/10/2014 8:42:10 AM] ChrisO .: as long as their disagreeing on my wagon

[4/10/2014 8:42:16 AM] ChrisO .: I could care less about the others

[4/10/2014 8:42:31 AM] ChrisO .: (also I'd post but I can't browse on SF for too long at work today)

[4/10/2014 8:43:05 AM] Raymond: As hilarious as another failed lynch would be, I don't particularly feel like losing the game, so I guess I'm gonna go push the SB case

[4/10/2014 8:43:51 AM] ChrisO .: Im' thinking to reapproach BBM

[4/10/2014 8:43:53 AM] ChrisO .: and

[4/10/2014 8:44:14 AM] ChrisO .: kick back some of my scumread on him, nad just throw him under the spotlight instead

[4/10/2014 8:44:20 AM] ChrisO .: and try to clear up stuff on eclipse

[4/10/2014 8:46:31 AM] Raymond: Also, while unrelated, can you think of anyone who'd think it funny for me to target CLIPSEY! ? While it'd be funny if they ended up duplicating a kill that way, it'd also be a pretty dumb way to get caught as scum, unless I can BS having vig shots or something. xD

[4/10/2014 9:33:18 AM] ChrisO .: I'm still trying to figure out the clipsey sneak thing that happened.

[4/10/2014 9:35:35 AM] Raymond: I think it may be some kind of... whatcha call it? Empowerer?

In any case, someone who makes their target perform their action twice, but in this case with the target chosen by the Empowerer instead I guess?

[4/10/2014 9:37:29 AM] ChrisO .: The only other option that I could consider is some kind of assbackwards Nexus

[4/10/2014 9:37:36 AM] ChrisO .: but yours seems more logical

[4/10/2014 9:37:41 AM] ChrisO .: and less nonsensical

[4/10/2014 9:37:46 AM] ChrisO .: compared to my whatever thought

[4/10/2014 9:40:32 AM] Raymond: I'll be very happy if an SB lynch happens

[4/10/2014 9:41:01 AM] ChrisO .: I support it but /prooooobably won't wagon that/ unless something super obvious comes up

[4/10/2014 9:41:18 AM] ChrisO .: also

[4/10/2014 9:41:22 AM] ChrisO .: neiborz

[4/10/2014 9:44:28 AM] ChrisO .: oh

[4/10/2014 9:44:31 AM] ChrisO .: kaoz posted

[4/10/2014 9:44:32 AM] ChrisO .: neat

[4/10/2014 9:44:45 AM] Raymond: Yeah, seems like he does exist after all

[4/10/2014 9:45:22 AM] ChrisO .: should probably look forward to killing him sooner rather than later, especially with my jail not going off

[4/10/2014 9:46:00 AM] ChrisO .: unless I decide to claim Jack with like Rolecop, Jail, and some other bullshit that I can't really prove

[4/10/2014 9:46:26 AM] Raymond: Yeah, Kaoz shall die N2 unless something really important comes up

[4/10/2014 9:46:29 AM] ChrisO .: he's liable to hit Manix today, what with him being a wagon and all, and if he hit someone last night, the last thing we need is a confirm on the field

[4/10/2014 9:46:32 AM] Raymond: Don't want no cop around

[4/10/2014 9:47:09 AM] Raymond: Actually, considering Kaoz' strange reason for thinking I'm town, I'd like to think that he actually checked me and got a town result

[4/10/2014 9:48:06 AM] Raymond: As much as it's probably just wishful thinking. xD

[4/10/2014 9:48:49 AM] ChrisO .: your role is what exactly?

[4/10/2014 9:49:08 AM] Raymond: I'm a BP godfather strongman neighborizer

[4/10/2014 9:49:27 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/10/2014 9:49:47 AM] Raymond: Godfather is linked to my BP, and strongman is linked to neighbors

[4/10/2014 9:50:02 AM] ChrisO .: so when you s trongkill, our room vanishes.

[4/10/2014 9:50:09 AM] Raymond: No

[4/10/2014 9:50:12 AM] ChrisO .: and if you're hit, you lose your innocence?

[4/10/2014 9:50:16 AM] Raymond: Yes

[4/10/2014 9:50:50 AM] Raymond: If I'm hit, I will no longer appear as town to investigations, and and I can strongkill anyone I neighbored

[4/10/2014 9:50:59 AM] ChrisO .: oo

[4/10/2014 9:51:07 AM] ChrisO .: does that include eclipse atm?

[4/10/2014 9:51:10 AM] Raymond: Yes

[4/10/2014 9:51:13 AM] ChrisO .: neat

[4/10/2014 9:51:18 AM] Raymond: Although that was completely unintentional. xD

[4/10/2014 9:54:50 AM] ChrisO .: makes me feel lame

[4/10/2014 9:54:52 AM] ChrisO .: as just plain

[4/10/2014 9:55:04 AM] ChrisO .: Jailor+Insomniac

[4/10/2014 9:55:04 AM] ChrisO .: but

[4/10/2014 9:55:05 AM] ChrisO .: that's ok

[4/10/2014 9:55:16 AM] ChrisO .: claiming jack would be stupid

[4/10/2014 9:59:35 AM] Raymond: ;/

[4/10/2014 10:01:12 AM | Removed 10:02:33 AM] ChrisO .: This message has been removed.

[4/10/2014 10:01:51 AM] Raymond: I don't particularly like anon games. ;/

[4/10/2014 10:01:56 AM] ChrisO .: i know

[4/10/2014 10:01:59 AM] ChrisO .: that's why i'm bugging ya

[4/10/2014 10:02:11 AM] ChrisO .: ok so

[4/10/2014 10:02:13 AM] ChrisO .: you can

[4/10/2014 10:02:14 AM] Raymond: xD"

[4/10/2014 10:02:16 AM] ChrisO .: strongkill your neighbors

[4/10/2014 10:02:17 AM] ChrisO .: That means

[4/10/2014 10:02:44 AM] ChrisO .: you can bypass

[4/10/2014 10:02:46 AM] ChrisO .: all protection

[4/10/2014 10:02:51 AM] ChrisO .: and redirects put on you

[4/10/2014 10:02:55 AM] ChrisO .: so I could jail you

[4/10/2014 10:02:57 AM] ChrisO .: and you could

[4/10/2014 10:03:08 AM] ChrisO .: strongkill, bypassing my jail, but still recieving protection?

[4/10/2014 10:03:12 AM] Raymond: I dunno about redirects / hooks on myself, actually

[4/10/2014 10:04:11 AM] Raymond: Judging from the wording in my role PM, I think I only bypass protection on my target, not actions that prevent me from acting at all in the first place

[4/10/2014 10:04:20 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/10/2014 10:04:21 AM] ChrisO .: ok

[4/10/2014 10:04:40 AM] Raymond: Don't worry about me; like I said, I'm BP anyway. xD

[4/10/2014 10:04:47 AM] ChrisO .: well

[4/10/2014 10:04:51 AM] ChrisO .: I mean like

[4/10/2014 10:05:02 AM] ChrisO .: if redirectors exist

[4/10/2014 10:05:11 AM] ChrisO .: you don't need your kill being moved to manix

[4/10/2014 10:05:16 AM] ChrisO .: if i can "block" it or something

[4/10/2014 10:06:53 AM] Raymond: Well, as it stands, it seems there's some kind of empowerer rather than a redirector, nobody knows I can actually kill people in the first place, we don't even know if that ability applies to our factional kill in the first place, and I don't need to be the one doing the kill unless we have reason to believe our target will be protected

[4/10/2014 10:07:26 AM] ChrisO .: tru tru and tru

[4/10/2014 11:48:15 AM] Raymond: CLIPSEY! just brought up a very interesting possibility in the neighbor chat

[4/10/2014 11:48:45 AM] Raymond: That being that there's a linker around

[4/10/2014 11:50:14 AM] Raymond: While I'm not sure about the details (in particular, whether links only last one night or for the entirety of the game), if that is really what happened, it might be possible that any actions directed at you will also affect CLIPSEY! from now on, Elie.

[4/10/2014 11:50:37 AM] Raymond: Actually, I think I'm gonna do some rolespec in the mafia QT

[4/10/2014 11:59:46 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/10/2014 11:59:47 AM] ChrisO .: FROM NOW ON

[4/10/2014 11:59:49 AM] ChrisO .: would be

[4/10/2014 11:59:52 AM] ChrisO .: really interesting

[4/10/2014 11:59:57 AM] ChrisO .: (also just read it)

[4/10/2014 12:02:57 PM] Raymond: Indeed

Also,

[Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:50 AM] Raymond:

<<< Actually, I think I'm gonna do some rolespec in the mafia QT^done

[4/10/2014 2:19:13 PM] ChrisO .: mmk

[4/10/2014 2:19:17 PM] ChrisO .: leaving work in an hour

[4/10/2014 2:19:20 PM] ChrisO .: then I can read the page

[4/10/2014 2:19:23 PM] ChrisO .: that I missed while at work

[4/10/2014 2:19:25 PM] ChrisO .: such little play

[4/10/2014 2:20:32 PM] Raymond: Yeah, not much going on right now

[4/10/2014 4:16:37 PM] Raymond: Oh, hi Manix, btw. xD

[4/10/2014 4:16:54 PM] Manix: yo

[4/10/2014 4:24:41 PM] Manix: spoilers: not actually doing work quite yet

[4/10/2014 4:30:58 PM] Raymond: Thought as much. :B

[4/10/2014 5:52:54 PM] Raymond: Wow, so much nothing is happening

[4/10/2014 5:53:17 PM] Manix: score

[4/10/2014 5:54:15 PM] Raymond: I we lose by NLing again I'll count that as a win in my book

[4/10/2014 6:17:56 PM] ChrisO .: Yea esp since

[4/10/2014 6:18:10 PM] ChrisO .: 70% of the town gives no fucka

[4/10/2014 6:45:20 PM] Raymond: I'm reading town to both Kaoz and Bal? Wow

[4/10/2014 6:46:34 PM] Raymond: I guess they really are very busy

[4/10/2014 8:12:33 PM] ChrisO .: You've also been away forever. People may have also become less alert to your self-declared scummy behavior

[4/10/2014 8:12:48 PM] ChrisO .: I had you extremely null on my chart before I subbed in

[4/10/2014 11:21:29 PM] Manix: so paper probably had a dayvig to give out. gr8

[4/10/2014 11:21:44 PM] Manix: and conq has it

[4/11/2014 6:18:55 AM] Raymond: Yes Conq, go and shoot a townie, that would be great! \o/

[4/11/2014 6:24:49 AM] Manix: he needs to go shoot kaoz

[4/11/2014 6:25:08 AM] Raymond: That would be epic

[4/11/2014 6:25:11 AM] Manix: saying that, dayvigs should ask for claims if they have already claimed so lol

[4/11/2014 6:25:22 AM] Manix: should being the key word though

[4/11/2014 6:26:07 AM | Edited 6:26:14 AM] Manix: anyway back to actually falling asleep

[4/11/2014 6:26:56 AM] Raymond: Good night. :V

[4/11/2014 8:03:20 AM] ChrisO .: oi io

[4/11/2014 8:03:48 AM] Raymond: I like trains.

[4/11/2014 8:03:55 AM] Raymond: Hi, Elie. :V

[4/11/2014 8:04:07 AM] ChrisO .: Don't step on the TURTLE

[4/11/2014 8:05:09 AM] ChrisO .: hopefully i'll deflect a little pressure off of me

[4/11/2014 8:05:15 AM] ChrisO .: i don't wanna get Conq'd today

[4/11/2014 8:05:34 AM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/11/2014 8:06:29 AM] ChrisO .: i don't think my sb justification is bad

[4/11/2014 8:06:30 AM] ChrisO .: but

[4/11/2014 8:06:31 AM] ChrisO .: what do I know

[4/11/2014 8:06:32 AM] ChrisO .: :P

[4/11/2014 8:07:09 AM] Raymond: I do think pushing the SB case looks promising at this point

[4/11/2014 8:07:30 AM] ChrisO .: you do think?

[4/11/2014 8:07:32 AM] ChrisO .: or don't think

[4/11/2014 8:07:48 AM] Raymond: I do think. :O

[4/11/2014 8:07:57 AM] ChrisO .: lol such do

[4/11/2014 8:08:21 AM] Raymond: I'm pretty sure putting a "do" in front of a verb that doesn't really need it can be used for emphasis in English?

[4/11/2014 8:08:51 AM] Raymond: If I'm misinformed, do tell me. xD

[4/11/2014 8:08:57 AM] ChrisO .: it's only case is specifically to work in terms of emphasis

[4/11/2014 8:09:08 AM] ChrisO .: in the case of DO anyway

[4/11/2014 8:09:21 AM] Raymond: So yeah. xD

[4/11/2014 8:09:30 AM] ChrisO .: i read that as either

[4/11/2014 8:09:44 AM] ChrisO .: you forgot to provide an adverb inbetween

[4/11/2014 8:09:45 AM] ChrisO .: or

[4/11/2014 8:09:50 AM] ChrisO .: you strongly meant do

[4/11/2014 8:09:51 AM] ChrisO .: I couldn't tell

[4/11/2014 8:09:53 AM] ChrisO .: :PP

[4/11/2014 8:09:58 AM] ChrisO .: Also I'm in my meeting. it's slow

[4/11/2014 8:10:08 AM] Raymond: Heh

[4/11/2014 8:10:31 AM] ChrisO .: i always thought you were an english speaker primarily

[4/11/2014 8:10:33 AM] ChrisO .: but

[4/11/2014 8:10:45 AM] ChrisO .: learning about your incredible time zone difference

[4/11/2014 8:10:53 AM] ChrisO .: suddenly leads me to believe othersie

[4/11/2014 8:10:55 AM] ChrisO .: otherwise*

[4/11/2014 8:11:18 AM] Raymond: Yeah, English is in fact not my primary language. xD

[4/11/2014 8:11:38 AM] ChrisO .: you speak it well enough

[4/11/2014 8:12:00 AM] ChrisO .: the only reason why i took notice is due to a collegiate background of english that runs in my family

[4/11/2014 8:12:08 AM] Raymond: I'd hope so, considering it's the only foreign language I'm fluent in. xD

[4/11/2014 8:12:14 AM] ChrisO .: wwell

[4/11/2014 8:12:19 AM] ChrisO .: what other language(s)

[4/11/2014 8:12:21 AM] ChrisO .: pray tell

[4/11/2014 8:12:28 AM] ChrisO .: do you communicate with?

[4/11/2014 8:13:13 AM | Edited 8:13:22 AM] Raymond: German (my primary language), and that's it pretty much. I had a few years of French lessons in school, but not much really stuck with me. xD

[4/11/2014 8:13:25 AM] ChrisO .: Oh

[4/11/2014 8:13:28 AM] ChrisO .: neat!

[4/11/2014 8:13:47 AM] ChrisO .: I know so little german that I'd probably insult you with anything i spout out

[4/11/2014 8:14:06 AM] Raymond: It can't be THAT bad, can it? xD

[4/11/2014 8:14:48 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/11/2014 8:14:54 AM] ChrisO .: lemme think if I can remember the phrase

[4/11/2014 8:15:01 AM] ChrisO .: that i learned

[4/11/2014 8:15:14 AM] ChrisO .: from my dj friends in england

[4/11/2014 8:16:15 AM] ChrisO .: it's something like

[4/11/2014 8:16:47 AM] ChrisO .: Warnung, schnell fliegen hund

[4/11/2014 8:17:17 AM] ChrisO .: or the other one, is something like

[4/11/2014 8:17:35 AM] ChrisO .: wie komme ich zum bahnhof strabe zu bekkommen

[4/11/2014 8:17:56 AM] ChrisO .: which I think translates to "Warning, flying dog" and "How do I get to Station Road"

[4/11/2014 8:17:58 AM] ChrisO .: lol

[4/11/2014 8:22:56 AM] Raymond: [Friday, April 11, 2014 8:16 AM] ChrisO .:

<<< Warnung, schnell fliegen hundThat literally translates to "Warning, fast fly dog"

...yeah. xD

[Friday, April 11, 2014 8:17 AM] ChrisO .:

<<< wie komme ich zum bahnhof strabe zu bekkommenThe first part is actually correct (although nouns in German generally begin with capital letters). If it's just "Wie komme ich zum Bahnhof", then you've got "How do I get to the station". xD

Alternatively, it may be supposed to be a street called "Bahnhofstraße", which is a fairly frequent name for streets in German. In that case, the correct phrase would be "Wie komme ich zur Bahnhofstraße?".

...really, you're not missing out. German is a pretty complex and unwieldly language; it makes for nice poems and stuff, but in everyday use it's not that great. xD

[4/11/2014 8:25:14 AM] ChrisO .: That's surprisingly accurate then (considering I'm not even sure how to type ß properly without copypaste). I learned all I know from my british friends who scored a deal with Warsteiner, and they were intoxicated when we talked. I'm impressed I maintained even that knowledge

[4/11/2014 8:25:30 AM] ChrisO .: and you speak English more properly than most of the people I know, not gonna lie

[4/11/2014 8:27:23 AM] ChrisO .: and...I notice that many say English is a difficult language to learn. Would you say that?

[4/11/2014 8:45:19 AM] Raymond: Sorry, was afk there for a sec. xD"

[4/11/2014 8:46:31 AM] Raymond: [Friday, April 11, 2014 8:27 AM] ChrisO .:

<<< and...I notice that many say English is a difficult language to learn. Would you say that?On the contrary, I find English to be a very simple and easy language to learn compared to many other languages. Not having any overly complex grammar is a big point in its favor.

[4/11/2014 8:48:39 AM] ChrisO .: I completely agree with that statement~

[4/11/2014 12:44:20 PM] Raymond: People are still scattering their votes all over the place? D:

[4/11/2014 12:44:42 PM] ChrisO .: It's better than piling them on me

[4/11/2014 12:44:45 PM] ChrisO .: !

[4/11/2014 12:45:36 PM] Raymond: Can't we just lynch SB or Refa and be done with it? Like, seriously. xD

[4/11/2014 12:46:25 PM] ChrisO .: eclipse is surpringly on board with us

[4/11/2014 12:46:31 PM] ChrisO .: hence me dropping her

[4/11/2014 12:46:38 PM] ChrisO .: i'll churn out a resposne to refa later that says

[4/11/2014 12:46:51 PM] ChrisO .: eclipse answered my questions, and I have some for SB that strike me as just odd

[4/11/2014 12:47:18 PM] Raymond: Aye

[4/11/2014 1:22:42 PM] Raymond: I feel like this vote switch was terrible but a wagon needs to happen at some point, so *shrug*

[4/11/2014 1:22:58 PM] ChrisO .: did u just post?

[4/11/2014 1:23:07 PM] Raymond: Yes

[4/11/2014 1:23:12 PM] ChrisO .: for OPERATION SB OFFENSE MODE GO

[4/11/2014 1:23:12 PM] ChrisO .: ?

[4/11/2014 1:23:13 PM] ChrisO .: ahh

[4/11/2014 1:23:18 PM] Raymond: I voted Refa, actually. xD

[4/11/2014 1:23:30 PM] ChrisO .: o.o

[4/11/2014 1:24:05 PM] Raymond: I couldn't find a justification to switch to SB at this point

I can only really switch to SB if he's close to hammer

[4/11/2014 2:00:42 PM] ChrisO .: That refa case

[4/11/2014 2:00:45 PM] ChrisO .: is such mudslinging

[4/11/2014 2:00:52 PM] ChrisO .: i love it

[4/11/2014 2:01:10 PM] ChrisO .: The only person who noticed it is Refa

[4/11/2014 2:02:54 PM] Raymond: Bias towards CLIPSEY! is OP. :V

[4/11/2014 2:03:03 PM] ChrisO .: lol

[4/11/2014 2:03:19 PM] ChrisO .: i'm just thinking that

[4/11/2014 2:03:22 PM] ChrisO .: our little neighborhood

[4/11/2014 2:03:32 PM] ChrisO .: might be a draw to keep eclipse off of me for the next day or so

[4/11/2014 2:03:51 PM] Raymond: Yeah, possibly

[4/11/2014 2:04:08 PM] ChrisO .: either my shitty response was just good enough

[4/11/2014 2:04:23 PM] ChrisO .: or she's more trusting because neighbors. she's outted information in there that i didn't expect

[4/11/2014 2:04:43 PM] Raymond: Neighbors might be it, yeah

[4/11/2014 2:05:05 PM] ChrisO .: mainly her /20 post

[4/11/2014 2:05:11 PM] ChrisO .: because she's justifying herself to us

[4/11/2014 2:05:22 PM] ChrisO .: more than she's justifying herself in thread

[4/11/2014 2:05:55 PM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/11/2014 2:22:39 PM] Raymond: I think you might be reading a bit too much into Strege's "don't shoot me plz". xD"

[4/11/2014 2:34:38 PM] ChrisO .: well

[4/11/2014 2:34:42 PM] ChrisO .: he's probably not like

[4/11/2014 2:34:43 PM] ChrisO .: Voyeur

[4/11/2014 2:34:43 PM] ChrisO .: saying that

[4/11/2014 2:35:58 PM] Vhaltz: lmao people don't want to lynch elie because I was solid townie 8)

[4/11/2014 2:36:15 PM] ChrisO .: i'm

[4/11/2014 2:36:17 PM] ChrisO .: so fortunate

[4/11/2014 2:36:23 PM] ChrisO .: that people doubt my scumminess

[4/11/2014 2:36:29 PM] ChrisO .: because of your townliness

[4/11/2014 2:44:58 PM] Vhaltz: I consider it a personal win because I thought I'd be fucked trying to emulate my recent town games

[4/11/2014 2:45:22 PM] Vhaltz: I had an easy time in Healer because all I had to do was point out scummy stuff that was agreeable

[4/11/2014 2:46:10 PM] Vhaltz: also lol @ Refa nullifying his townread on the slot by saying that I'm essentially too town as scum to consider the slot town :V

[4/11/2014 2:46:24 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/11/2014 2:46:39 PM] ChrisO .: logik

[4/11/2014 2:46:46 PM] ChrisO .: tm that shit

[4/11/2014 3:06:24 PM] Raymond: I'm confusing people. \o/

[4/11/2014 4:29:30 PM] Raymond: So quiet

[4/11/2014 4:29:53 PM] Manix: well i did just wake up

[4/11/2014 4:29:59 PM] Raymond: Hi, Manix

[4/11/2014 4:30:03 PM] Manix: and i really don't feel like posting~

[4/11/2014 4:30:48 PM] Raymond: Well, it's not like the townies are getting their shit together, either. xD

[4/11/2014 4:31:14 PM] Manix: i am however definitely getting a bigger post out later because it's the weekend and i have nothing on today

[4/11/2014 4:31:32 PM] Raymond: Yay!

[4/11/2014 7:30:15 PM] Manix: that's a big post elie

[4/12/2014 12:29:29 AM] Manix: Good Dayvigs.txt

[4/12/2014 3:26:40 AM] Manix: we have to kill kaoz tonight

[4/12/2014 3:26:49 AM] Manix: bc it'll make people think he had a town scan on me

[4/12/2014 3:27:01 AM] Manix: possibly

[4/12/2014 7:37:43 AM] Raymond: gj Conq

[4/12/2014 7:45:19 AM] Raymond: And still nowhere close to a lynch

[4/12/2014 9:43:56 AM] ChrisO .: Haa

[4/12/2014 9:44:07 AM] ChrisO .: Balcershot

[4/12/2014 9:44:27 AM] Raymond: Yep

[4/12/2014 9:44:42 AM] ChrisO .: Also I am finally

[4/12/2014 9:44:48 AM] Raymond: And if motivator is what I think it is, that explains my N1 result and means that there probably isn't a linker after all

[4/12/2014 9:44:55 AM] ChrisO .: Not getting early lynched as maf

[4/12/2014 9:45:02 AM] ChrisO .: And yea I Was thinking that

[4/12/2014 9:45:08 AM] ChrisO .: Though why he motivated you?

[4/12/2014 9:45:24 AM] ChrisO .: I still don't get how eclipse

[4/12/2014 9:45:30 AM] Raymond: I could very much see Bal having me target CLIPSEY! just because he thinks it's funny. xD

[4/12/2014 9:45:38 AM] ChrisO .: Got into the room though

[4/12/2014 11:21:34 AM] Raymond: We will fail the lynch again, won't we

[4/12/2014 1:27:36 PM] Raymond: Manix, are you here?

[4/12/2014 1:31:04 PM] Raymond: Aw, man. I'm pretty sure we could get him to 5 votes, so you could just show up and turbo-hammer him. xD

[4/12/2014 1:31:24 PM] Raymond: *"him" being SB

[4/12/2014 3:06:27 PM] ChrisO .: Hmm?

[4/12/2014 3:07:47 PM] Raymond: nvm, I don't think it's relevant at this point. xD

[4/12/2014 3:38:02 PM] Raymond: Aaaand Manix just got hammer'd

[4/12/2014 3:38:39 PM] Raymond: Oh wait no I miscounted

[4/12/2014 3:39:19 PM] Prims: im p sure elie's vote was hammer

[spoiler=Night 2]

[4/12/2014 3:39:45 PM] ChrisO .: AHHH FYCK

[4/12/2014 3:39:51 PM] Raymond: gg

[4/12/2014 3:40:00 PM] ChrisO .: I WAS BUILDING THAT POST FOR LIKE 15 Minutes!

[4/12/2014 3:40:17 PM] Raymond: People posted like 3 pages in the last 15 minutes. xD

[4/12/2014 3:40:32 PM] ChrisO .: Last thing I read before phone typing was

[4/12/2014 3:42:13 PM] Raymond: lol triple "Shut up"

[4/12/2014 3:48:53 PM] ChrisO .: Yea that was

[4/12/2014 3:48:54 PM] ChrisO .: a major

[4/12/2014 3:48:56 PM] ChrisO .: unexpected

[4/12/2014 3:49:00 PM] ChrisO .: I can at least Insomnia post though

[4/12/2014 3:49:03 PM] ChrisO .: TOO BAD THE REST CAN'T

[4/12/2014 3:49:11 PM] ChrisO .: TIME TO PUSH

BBM+MANIX ASSOCIATIONS!

[4/12/2014 3:49:20 PM] ChrisO .: Though, I think some might be brought up for you too, Rayray

[4/12/2014 3:49:26 PM] ChrisO .: (Not by me of course though)

[4/12/2014 3:58:25 PM] ChrisO .: Dunno how to approach insomnia. Im banking on refa ITP

[4/12/2014 3:58:27 PM] ChrisO .: Also

[4/12/2014 3:58:31 PM] ChrisO .: Prims

[4/12/2014 3:58:37 PM] ChrisO .: What's my night look like

[4/12/2014 3:59:42 PM] Prims: ?

[4/12/2014 3:59:50 PM] Prims: I can't really confirm or deny anything about the unresolved action

[4/12/2014 4:39:49 PM] Manix: rip me

[4/12/2014 4:40:03 PM] Raymond: Manix! ;_;

[4/12/2014 4:40:18 PM] Raymond: Had you showed up a bit earlier, you could've turbo-hammered SB. D: xD

[4/12/2014 4:40:36 PM] Manix: i was sleeping

[4/12/2014 4:40:55 PM] Raymond: ;/

[4/12/2014 4:41:05 PM] Raymond: Well, we can still win I guess

[4/12/2014 4:41:36 PM] Raymond: Especially if Conq shoots another townie. :V

[4/12/2014 5:01:11 PM] Raymond: Indeed it does, Manix. Take a guess why I stopped playing for so long. :B

[4/12/2014 5:01:49 PM] Manix: i knew i wasn't going to have a lot of time but i #yolo'd anyway

[4/12/2014 8:44:01 PM] ChrisO .: Rayray

[4/12/2014 8:44:02 PM] ChrisO .: you heer?

[4/13/2014 6:47:58 AM] Raymond: Nope, at 5:45 AM even *I* am asleep. xD"

[4/13/2014 6:48:04 AM] Raymond: But I'm here now. xD

[4/13/2014 6:29:02 PM] Prims: who are you guys killing and jailing iagain

[4/13/2014 6:29:35 PM] Manix: gay and gay

[4/13/2014 6:30:07 PM] Raymond: Had Manix not died, I'd have been up for a No Kill challenge. :V

[4/13/2014 6:45:01 PM] ChrisO .: Elie->Kaoz

[4/13/2014 6:45:07 PM] ChrisO .: err

[4/13/2014 6:45:11 PM] ChrisO .: Elie->Kill Kaoz

[4/13/2014 6:45:27 PM] Prims: jai ltarget?

[4/13/2014 6:45:58 PM] ChrisO .: streege

[4/13/2014 6:46:04 PM] ChrisO .: and prims

[4/13/2014 6:46:05 PM] ChrisO .: can you clarify

[4/13/2014 6:46:09 PM] ChrisO .: if my action from last night

[4/13/2014 6:46:13 PM] ChrisO .: will occur tonight?

[4/13/2014 6:46:25 PM] Prims: i already said i cant confirm or deny until the night ends

[4/13/2014 6:46:28 PM] Prims: if it happens youll be told

[4/13/2014 6:46:28 PM] ChrisO .: oh

[4/13/2014 6:46:29 PM] ChrisO .: ok

[4/13/2014 6:46:33 PM] ChrisO .: it'd appear in my results

[4/13/2014 6:46:36 PM] ChrisO .: if it occurs

[4/13/2014 6:46:37 PM] ChrisO .: ok

[4/13/2014 6:46:40 PM] ChrisO .: that's mainly what i meant to ask

[4/13/2014 6:47:14 PM] Raymond: Oh

[4/13/2014 6:47:18 PM] Raymond: I totally misread that

[4/13/2014 6:47:50 PM] Raymond: I missed the "who" and thought you were sarcastically asking if we're killing and jailing again

[4/13/2014 6:48:28 PM] Raymond: I should probably not be awake at 4 AM lol

[4/13/2014 6:48:37 PM] ChrisO .: GG Rayray

[4/13/2014 6:49:54 PM] ChrisO .: OIH

[4/13/2014 6:49:56 PM] ChrisO .: RAHY

[4/13/2014 6:49:59 PM] ChrisO .: RAIGH

[4/13/2014 6:50:00 PM] ChrisO .: Don'

[4/13/2014 6:50:02 PM] ChrisO .: t pass out yet

[4/13/2014 6:50:04 PM] ChrisO .: i has a question

[4/13/2014 6:50:43 PM] Raymond: I'm here

[4/13/2014 6:50:53 PM] ChrisO .: if we're killing kaoz

[4/13/2014 6:51:17 PM] ChrisO .: and jailing strege, and neighborizing Conqueror

[4/13/2014 6:51:22 PM] ChrisO .: assuming it all works successfully

[4/13/2014 6:51:36 PM] ChrisO .: do you think we should have me kill Conq tomorrow?

[4/13/2014 6:51:47 PM] ChrisO .: or does the Stronk only apply to you?

[4/13/2014 6:51:57 PM] Raymond: Only I can do the strongkill

[4/13/2014 6:52:02 PM] ChrisO .: mmkhay

[4/13/2014 6:52:05 PM] ChrisO .: I think it'd work out

[4/13/2014 6:52:13 PM] ChrisO .: thoughts on who to press for today's lynch?

[4/13/2014 6:53:40 PM] Raymond: I don't think he'd be protected, but let's leave whom to kill next night for, well, next night. xD

I kinda still want SB gone, but Refa is easier to tunnel on

Maybe BBM if a wagon takes off

[4/13/2014 7:04:23 PM] Raymond: Anyway, I really ought to get some sleep now. Good night, guys~

[4/13/2014 7:04:33 PM] ChrisO .: night broman

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[spoiler=Day 3]

[4/13/2014 9:10:41 PM] Prims: update is up finally

[4/14/2014 6:56:56 AM] ChrisO .: oh em gee

[4/14/2014 6:57:01 AM] ChrisO .: claimed jailor in Neighbor-room

[4/14/2014 6:57:13 AM] ChrisO .: I HOPE MAFIA DOESN'T FIND OUT

[4/14/2014 7:25:11 AM] Raymond: lol

[4/14/2014 7:25:45 AM] Raymond: So how did I go from "Scarlet is most certainly a person playing this game" to "Scarlet must obviously be scum"

[4/14/2014 7:33:18 AM] ChrisO .: PoE?

[4/14/2014 7:33:19 AM] ChrisO .: THE DREADED POE

[4/14/2014 7:33:32 AM] ChrisO .: A strange formula to work with

[4/14/2014 7:34:39 AM] Raymond: So how is everyone else confirmed town, then

[4/14/2014 7:35:25 AM] ChrisO .: well

[4/14/2014 7:35:29 AM] ChrisO .: it's coming from BBM

[4/14/2014 7:35:30 AM] ChrisO .: who just

[4/14/2014 7:35:32 AM] ChrisO .: does things

[4/14/2014 7:35:38 AM] ChrisO .: and don't know how to tell him he's wrong

[4/14/2014 7:35:51 AM] ChrisO .: I'm town because i didn't stick to calling him scum or something?

[4/14/2014 7:36:00 AM] ChrisO .: Though outting that I'm jailor might raise some questions

[4/14/2014 7:36:01 AM] ChrisO .: since

[4/14/2014 7:36:06 AM] ChrisO .: a hooker

[4/14/2014 7:36:06 AM] ChrisO .: and

[4/14/2014 7:36:12 AM] ChrisO .: whateverSB is

[4/14/2014 7:36:19 AM] ChrisO .: (Strege didn't claim blocked btw)

[4/14/2014 7:36:35 AM] ChrisO .: three role-stoppers is a lot

[4/14/2014 7:36:43 AM] ChrisO .: umm

[4/14/2014 7:39:11 AM] ChrisO .: This phase is probably gonna be BBM/Strege

[4/14/2014 7:39:17 AM] ChrisO .: with Refa so intent on lynching him

[4/14/2014 7:39:21 AM] Raymond: I guess

[4/14/2014 7:39:22 AM] ChrisO .: it shouldn't be that hard

[4/14/2014 7:39:35 AM] ChrisO .: then tomorrow, I'd try to go for streegy weejie

[4/14/2014 7:39:38 AM] Raymond: Strege is already at L-2, I think?

[4/14/2014 7:39:43 AM] ChrisO .: we could

[4/14/2014 7:39:43 AM] ChrisO .: turbo him

[4/14/2014 7:39:44 AM] ChrisO .: right now

[4/14/2014 7:39:53 AM] Raymond: That would be ridiculously scummy, though

[4/14/2014 7:40:13 AM] ChrisO .: it'd look like an accident if we clicked post at like

[4/14/2014 7:40:14 AM] ChrisO .: the same time

[4/14/2014 7:40:17 AM] Raymond: I don't think we should turbo unless it wins us the game

[4/14/2014 7:40:19 AM] ChrisO .: though

[4/14/2014 7:40:25 AM] ChrisO .: bringing him to L1 is scummy in it of itself

[4/14/2014 7:40:30 AM] ChrisO .: BUT IT'S SO SCUMMY

[4/14/2014 7:40:42 AM] ChrisO .: WHO WOULD ACTUALLY DO THAT?!?!

[4/14/2014 7:40:48 AM] ChrisO .: lol

[4/14/2014 7:41:07 AM] Raymond: [Monday, April 14, 2014 7:40 AM] ChrisO .:

<<< it'd look like an accident if we clicked post at likeI considered that for a second, but I do think people are capable of deducing that scumbuddies would be able to coordinate something like that. xD"

[4/14/2014 7:41:36 AM] ChrisO .: but why would scum

[4/14/2014 7:41:38 AM] ChrisO .: turbo

[4/14/2014 7:41:41 AM] ChrisO .: this early in the game

[4/14/2014 7:41:45 AM] ChrisO .: on an unknown like Strege

[4/14/2014 7:41:59 AM] ChrisO .: XD

[4/14/2014 7:42:02 AM] Raymond: ;/

[4/14/2014 7:42:04 AM] ChrisO .: I wouldn't do it still

[4/14/2014 7:42:04 AM] ChrisO .: but

[4/14/2014 7:42:11 AM] ChrisO .: it's just WIFOM

[4/14/2014 7:42:14 AM] ChrisO .: to the max

[4/14/2014 7:42:26 AM] Raymond: Then again cutting the day phase short would be kinda cool

[4/14/2014 7:42:32 AM] Raymond: But let me post something first. xD

[4/14/2014 7:42:40 AM] ChrisO .: let's maybe do it a bit later?

[4/14/2014 7:43:02 AM] ChrisO .: I somehow became /sorta/ innocent during the Manix=votesplosion

[4/14/2014 7:43:12 AM] ChrisO .: despite me technically quickhammering

[4/14/2014 7:43:15 AM] Raymond: I think it would be less obvious

[4/14/2014 7:43:19 AM] Raymond: If we

[4/14/2014 7:43:41 AM] Raymond: Nah scratch that. xD

[4/14/2014 7:43:48 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 7:43:50 AM] ChrisO .: if we build like

[4/14/2014 7:43:51 AM] ChrisO .: big wall posts

[4/14/2014 7:44:12 AM] ChrisO .: both with a vote on Strege

[4/14/2014 7:44:12 AM] ChrisO .: (I have a role-related reason that I can muck up for my vote)

[4/14/2014 7:44:19 AM] ChrisO .: walls that approach like BBM, Strege and j00 or something

[4/14/2014 7:44:29 AM] ChrisO .: so that way it looks like wedidn't intentionally post within seconds of eachother

[4/14/2014 7:44:40 AM] ChrisO .: since 12 paragraph posts take time to build n junk

[4/14/2014 7:44:48 AM] Raymond: But then there's still the issue that we would both put him at L-1 individually already, which already is scummy in itself this early in the phase

[4/14/2014 7:45:07 AM] ChrisO .: right

[4/14/2014 7:45:09 AM] Raymond: In fact I called out Prims for doing that in my last game

[4/14/2014 7:46:25 AM] ChrisO .: mm

[4/14/2014 7:46:44 AM] ChrisO .: it's like

[4/14/2014 7:46:47 AM] ChrisO .: so scummy

[4/14/2014 7:46:52 AM] ChrisO .: that scum would never actually do it

[4/14/2014 7:46:55 AM] ChrisO .: but sadly

[4/14/2014 7:47:01 AM] ChrisO .: we're too experienced to claim "oops"

[4/14/2014 7:47:42 AM] Raymond: Scum would never actually do it, but town has no reason to do it either, so yeah

[4/14/2014 7:47:57 AM] Raymond: Clearly, we must both be ITP! \o/

[4/14/2014 7:48:43 AM] ChrisO .: INDEED

[4/14/2014 7:48:46 AM] ChrisO .: Speaking of

[4/14/2014 7:48:49 AM] ChrisO .: ITP!Refa

[4/14/2014 7:48:53 AM] ChrisO .: seems distinctly possible

[4/14/2014 7:49:02 AM] ChrisO .: because wtf is a plain ol' announcer doing in this game

[4/14/2014 7:49:09 AM] ChrisO .: though, Conq claiming hooked

[4/14/2014 7:49:14 AM] ChrisO .: strikes me as just plain weird

[4/14/2014 8:05:12 AM] Raymond: Yeah, ITP!Refa might be possible, although what kind would he be? It doesn't seem like there's an SK in this game.

Conq said he had received an item from Paper, so that accounts for him having a night action to be blocked I guess?

I hope my defense doesn't only make sense to myself, haha

[4/14/2014 8:06:03 AM] ChrisO .: Hmm. That makes sense then wrt the item itself

[4/14/2014 8:06:08 AM] ChrisO .: and there could be an Arsonist

[4/14/2014 8:06:32 AM] Raymond: Wouldn't we already be at, like, *YLO by now if there was an Arsonist? xD

[4/14/2014 8:07:24 AM] ChrisO .: depends on what it can do

[4/14/2014 8:07:28 AM] ChrisO .: I was an arsonist doctor in Primsmafia

[4/14/2014 8:07:41 AM] ChrisO .: (well inventor+doctor, with an arson invention)

[4/14/2014 8:07:46 AM] Raymond: Uhhh... Ok. xD

[4/14/2014 8:08:05 AM] ChrisO .: ITP Inventor+Doctor (with an Arson invention)

[4/14/2014 8:08:05 AM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/14/2014 8:08:08 AM] ChrisO .: it was complicated

[4/14/2014 8:08:09 AM] ChrisO .: ALMOST WON TOO

[4/14/2014 8:08:19 AM] ChrisO .: except for the fact that I was hooked N1

[4/14/2014 8:08:28 AM] ChrisO .: and didn't kill for the rest of the game

[4/14/2014 8:08:34 AM] ChrisO .: as I was an SK too

[4/14/2014 8:08:51 AM] ChrisO .: that if I had my arson item, i could arson instead. I djust didn't get it until like the very end

[4/14/2014 8:08:53 AM] ChrisO .: BUT ANYWAY

[4/14/2014 8:08:56 AM] ChrisO .: It's possible

[4/14/2014 8:09:03 AM] ChrisO .: that an ITP doesn't even exist

[4/14/2014 8:09:06 AM] ChrisO .: or isn't harmless

[4/14/2014 8:09:13 AM] ChrisO .: I just don't believe that a Plain ol' announcer exists

[4/14/2014 8:11:16 AM] Raymond: Yeah, he DOES probably have another ability

[4/14/2014 8:24:21 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 8:24:34 AM] ChrisO .: I tink my suspicions about Strege were right

[4/14/2014 8:24:43 AM] ChrisO .: if he didn't out Hooked

[4/14/2014 8:24:47 AM] ChrisO .: then he's probably passive

[4/14/2014 8:24:54 AM] ChrisO .: or limited shot something

[4/14/2014 8:25:00 AM] ChrisO .: and just idled

[4/14/2014 8:25:19 AM] ChrisO .: if he's passive, it's probably designed to be a threat to SOMEONE

[4/14/2014 8:25:20 AM] ChrisO .: like Bomb

[4/14/2014 8:25:42 AM | Edited 8:25:50 AM] Raymond: Yeah, wouldn't risk killing them at night

[4/14/2014 8:25:57 AM] ChrisO .: he's a heavy lynch target anyway for the next two days

[4/14/2014 8:26:20 AM] ChrisO .: unfortunately, i'm afraid that I'll be too, after SB/Eclipse/Eli are all confirmed roleblockers in some way

[4/14/2014 8:27:26 AM] ChrisO .: thoughts on a nightkill?

[4/14/2014 8:27:32 AM] ChrisO .: I'm thinking Conq, or eclipse even

[4/14/2014 8:27:46 AM] Raymond: Probably Conq, but again, let's save that for the night. xD

[4/14/2014 8:28:59 AM] ChrisO .: well who looks townie as fuck

[4/14/2014 8:29:04 AM] ChrisO .: at this point

[4/14/2014 8:29:16 AM] ChrisO .: who are the two least-likely-to-be-lynched players

[4/14/2014 8:29:17 AM] ChrisO .: FYPOV

[4/14/2014 8:30:05 AM] Raymond: The only one I could really think of is... ...Conq. Because if he wasn't, he'd be a mafia vigilante. xD

[4/14/2014 8:30:26 AM] Raymond: And I don't think even Prims would do that. xD

[4/14/2014 8:32:35 AM] ChrisO .: prims made

[4/14/2014 8:32:38 AM] ChrisO .: Strawsloth a Mafia Vig once

[4/14/2014 8:32:46 AM] ChrisO .: in the first Anonymafia Invitational

[4/14/2014 8:32:58 AM] Raymond: Damn, is there even anything Prims HASN'T done? xD

[4/14/2014 8:33:19 AM] ChrisO .: made a plain ol' survivor?

[4/14/2014 8:33:41 AM] Raymond: I'm pretty sure he mentioned having made one once and not liking it

[4/14/2014 8:42:43 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 8:42:47 AM] ChrisO .: Strege

[4/14/2014 8:42:52 AM] ChrisO .: really is gonna be today's lynch

[4/14/2014 8:42:53 AM] ChrisO .: i bet

[4/14/2014 9:15:31 AM] Raymond: I'm pretty sure j00 just put Strege at L-1

[4/14/2014 9:21:00 AM] ChrisO .: Yea

[4/14/2014 9:21:05 AM] ChrisO .: I'm

[4/14/2014 9:21:05 AM] ChrisO .: loving that

[4/14/2014 9:21:07 AM] ChrisO .: What do now

[4/14/2014 9:21:25 AM] Raymond: Turbo is so tempting, but it'd just be too obvious

[4/14/2014 9:21:37 AM] ChrisO .: BUT IT'D BE SO OBVIOUS

[4/14/2014 9:21:44 AM] ChrisO .: WHO THE HELL WOULD ACTUALY DO IT?

[4/14/2014 9:21:56 AM] Raymond: I would. :newyears:

[4/14/2014 9:22:02 AM] ChrisO .: lol at the three minute Turbo on Manix yesterphase

[4/14/2014 9:22:11 AM] Raymond: Yeah

[4/14/2014 9:22:37 AM] Raymond: I go do something else for an hour because nothing was happening and suddenly a Manix hammer in my face

[4/14/2014 9:24:09 AM] ChrisO .: (again, sorry about that >.<)

[4/14/2014 9:24:50 AM] Raymond: Well it got you town cred, so it'll work out I guess? xD

[4/14/2014 9:25:35 AM] ChrisO .: so quickhammer town and see if it gets you towncred too :P

[4/14/2014 9:25:43 AM] ChrisO .: Who needs a Day phase!

[4/14/2014 9:25:47 AM] Raymond: lol

[4/14/2014 9:28:06 AM] ChrisO .: lol@SB

[4/14/2014 9:28:15 AM] ChrisO .: lol@j00 saying 3 hookers are cool for town

[4/14/2014 9:28:30 AM] ChrisO .: (I think my case might have worked, i'm fucking blown away by this)

[4/14/2014 9:28:39 AM] Raymond: lol

[4/14/2014 9:28:54 AM] ChrisO .: my claims are usually like

[4/14/2014 9:28:56 AM] ChrisO .: blown out of the way

[4/14/2014 9:28:59 AM] ChrisO .: in an instant

[4/14/2014 9:29:00 AM] ChrisO .: when I'm mafia

[4/14/2014 9:36:29 AM] Raymond: It just occured to me

[4/14/2014 9:36:52 AM] Raymond: Had I voted Strege instead of BBM in my post, j00's vote would've been hammer, because I'm pretty sure I ninja'd them

[4/14/2014 9:36:53 AM] Raymond: Damn lol

[4/14/2014 9:37:17 AM] ChrisO .: so close

[4/14/2014 9:37:28 AM] ChrisO .: then

[4/14/2014 9:37:29 AM] ChrisO .: you'd be in the spotlight

[4/14/2014 9:37:33 AM] ChrisO .: with j00

[4/14/2014 9:37:34 AM] ChrisO .: instead of me

[4/14/2014 9:37:36 AM] ChrisO .: :P

[4/14/2014 9:37:41 AM] Raymond: Seeing the future would be kinda useful at times like these. :newyears:

[4/14/2014 9:37:52 AM] ChrisO .: Oh

[4/14/2014 9:37:58 AM] ChrisO .: prims had a role that did that too

[4/14/2014 9:38:09 AM] Raymond: lol

[4/14/2014 9:38:22 AM] ChrisO .: a mid-Night Results Calculator

[4/14/2014 9:38:31 AM] ChrisO .: that would tell the mafia the results of their actions, if all submitted, before the night's end

[4/14/2014 9:38:55 AM] ChrisO .: but didn't lock them in, so the could change their actions based on results that they would recieve

[4/14/2014 9:39:04 AM] Raymond: That seems pretty broken

[4/14/2014 9:39:11 AM] ChrisO .: well it was a oneshot thing

[4/14/2014 9:39:20 AM] ChrisO .: i think it had to be used by N3 or something

[4/14/2014 9:39:21 AM] Raymond: Oh ok

[4/14/2014 11:12:18 AM] Raymond: SB sure is taking long to post something

[4/14/2014 11:58:42 AM] ChrisO .: lurkscum

[4/14/2014 12:45:23 PM] Raymond: BBM - attacking the right player for the wrong reasons!

[4/14/2014 12:45:43 PM] ChrisO .: HA SUCH BAD LOGIX

[4/14/2014 1:48:01 PM] ChrisO .: gg sb

[4/14/2014 1:48:16 PM] ChrisO .: can vote rite?

[4/14/2014 1:48:32 PM] Raymond: He indeed hasn't voted yet

[4/14/2014 1:48:43 PM] ChrisO .: man he should've

[4/14/2014 1:49:05 PM] Raymond: Having him hammer Strege without meaning to would've been hilarious. xD

[4/14/2014 1:49:14 PM] ChrisO .: kirsche did it onoce

[4/14/2014 1:49:17 PM] ChrisO .: and was like

[4/14/2014 1:49:19 PM] ChrisO .: ubertown for it

[4/14/2014 1:49:25 PM] ChrisO .: like everyone was so mad at him

[4/14/2014 1:49:28 PM] ChrisO .: but figured he was town

[4/14/2014 1:49:33 PM] Raymond: xD

[4/14/2014 1:49:37 PM] ChrisO .: because there's no way mafia would flake that hard

[4/14/2014 1:52:00 PM] Raymond: Oh, Refa appeared

[4/14/2014 1:52:05 PM] Raymond: But j00 unvoted. D'awww

[4/14/2014 1:52:18 PM] ChrisO .: i like how only we called out

[4/14/2014 1:52:20 PM] ChrisO .: the almost quickhammer

[4/14/2014 1:55:56 PM] Raymond: Rather, were we the only ones to even notice it? lol

[4/14/2014 1:56:22 PM] ChrisO .: SB, BBM and j00 all missed it

[4/14/2014 1:56:43 PM] ChrisO .: Strege, eclipse and Conq weren't here

[4/14/2014 1:56:46 PM] ChrisO .: and you and I noticed it

[4/14/2014 1:56:51 PM] ChrisO .: so...yea, let's assume that

[4/14/2014 1:56:53 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/14/2014 2:01:00 PM] ChrisO .: ok

[4/14/2014 2:01:01 PM] ChrisO .: if we get

[4/14/2014 2:01:04 PM] ChrisO .: BBM Shot

[4/14/2014 2:01:06 PM] ChrisO .: and Strege lynched

[4/14/2014 2:01:54 PM] ChrisO .: we should probably off eclipse or conqueror

[4/14/2014 2:01:55 PM] Raymond: I don't think we can get BBM shot

Conq literally needs to be at L-1 today to get a vig shot, unless he was lying

[4/14/2014 2:02:01 PM] ChrisO .: if it's cumulative

[4/14/2014 2:02:02 PM] ChrisO .: then

[4/14/2014 2:02:04 PM] ChrisO .: you and I can

[4/14/2014 2:02:09 PM] ChrisO .: quick voteunvote him

[4/14/2014 2:02:15 PM] ChrisO .: to give him votes to fill his charge

[4/14/2014 2:02:25 PM] ChrisO .: i think i misunderstood it

[4/14/2014 2:02:28 PM] Raymond: I think he said only votes at phase end count? And the NL reset it, so he should be at 0 right now

[4/14/2014 2:02:38 PM] ChrisO .: iuno

[4/14/2014 2:02:45 PM] ChrisO .: he should probably reappear

[4/14/2014 2:03:11 PM] ChrisO .: man with 2 town deaths and our nk tonight

[4/14/2014 2:03:21 PM] ChrisO .: it'd put us at 3:2:1 or 4:2

[4/14/2014 2:03:43 PM] ChrisO .: (or 3:2:0 if one of them is ITP)

[4/14/2014 2:03:44 PM] Raymond: Apparently I did a pretty terrible job with the Manix thing though so I might get lynched tomorrow

[4/14/2014 2:03:50 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 2:04:01 PM] ChrisO .: I might end up bussing you then at the start of the phase

[4/14/2014 2:04:10 PM] ChrisO .: depending on how you look by phase end

[4/14/2014 2:04:17 PM] ChrisO .: if I throw a vote on you super early

[4/14/2014 2:04:25 PM] ChrisO .: then things can change

[4/14/2014 2:04:30 PM] ChrisO .: and it'll help me out

[4/14/2014 2:04:33 PM] ChrisO .: while you can push whoever

[4/14/2014 2:04:37 PM] ChrisO .: and I can unvote you a bit later on

[4/14/2014 2:05:05 PM] ChrisO .: but I probably shouldn't because there's 2 hookers at this moment, plus me, and I can't get past them

[4/14/2014 2:05:09 PM] Raymond: I don't think you should try to bus me unless it feels natural for you to do it. Just look at where it got me. xD"

[4/14/2014 2:05:23 PM] ChrisO .: I've been trying to IGNORE THAT YOU EXIST

[4/14/2014 2:05:27 PM] Raymond: xD"

[4/14/2014 2:05:29 PM] ChrisO .: because i'm afriad that if I buss you

[4/14/2014 2:05:31 PM] ChrisO .: i'll get you lynched

[4/14/2014 2:05:39 PM] ChrisO .: then end up getting hooked or something myself and we'll lose

[4/14/2014 2:05:44 PM] Raymond: If push comes to shove and I really look like a lynch target tomorrow, I'll just quickhammer someone if I get a chance to

[4/14/2014 2:06:01 PM] ChrisO .: if Conq doesn't shoot you somehow first

[4/14/2014 2:06:06 PM] Raymond: He literally can't

[4/14/2014 2:06:29 PM] Raymond: There's no way to make it happen unless the town is stupid and willingly risks a scum quickhammer to get him a vig shot

[4/14/2014 2:07:11 PM] Raymond: Also I'm BP. :V

[4/14/2014 2:07:14 PM] ChrisO .: tru

[4/14/2014 2:07:17 PM] ChrisO .: OH RITE LOL

[4/14/2014 2:10:29 PM] Raymond: So I "didn't adress SB at all since like D1" but he didn't even read my posts D2? lol

[4/14/2014 2:11:22 PM] ChrisO .: Link to your own posts

[4/14/2014 2:11:25 PM] Raymond: I did

[4/14/2014 2:11:27 PM] ChrisO .: to shut SUPER BUSSER up

[4/14/2014 2:11:29 PM] ChrisO .: oh

[4/14/2014 2:11:30 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 2:11:31 PM] ChrisO .: the derp

[4/14/2014 2:20:44 PM] Raymond: Maybe I'll claim something outrageous like SK or Lyncher just to fuck with the town if people decide to wagon me. :V

[4/14/2014 2:21:11 PM] ChrisO .: Lyncher is weird in flavorless Mafia

[4/14/2014 2:21:43 PM] Raymond: I guess. xD

[4/14/2014 2:21:49 PM] ChrisO .: I mean

[4/14/2014 2:22:00 PM] ChrisO .: what would you say your lynchee is supposed to be

[4/14/2014 2:22:10 PM] ChrisO .: when you don't know anybody's rolecrap (except mine at this point)

[4/14/2014 2:22:37 PM] Raymond: Yeah, I'll have to think that through a bit more if I wanna go with that

[4/14/2014 2:22:59 PM] Raymond: Sadly, cult wouldn't make sense at this point

[4/14/2014 2:23:05 PM] ChrisO .: SK would be neat

[4/14/2014 2:23:11 PM] ChrisO .: Masonry would be kiiinda neat

[4/14/2014 2:23:15 PM] ChrisO .: except no one's flipped mason

[4/14/2014 2:23:19 PM] ChrisO .: and you'd be caught super easily

[4/14/2014 2:24:05 PM] ChrisO .: cult would be LOL

[4/14/2014 2:24:08 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 2:24:23 PM] ChrisO .: Vivor would be failure on 9 levels

[4/14/2014 2:24:45 PM] Raymond: Yeah, not claiming gayvivor. xD

[4/14/2014 2:24:56 PM] ChrisO .: but this is a prims gaym

[4/14/2014 2:25:07 PM] Raymond: Prims hates gayvivors, tho. xD

[4/14/2014 2:25:15 PM] ChrisO .: tru

[4/14/2014 2:26:27 PM] ChrisO .: hmmmmm

[4/14/2014 2:26:36 PM] ChrisO .: BPVNEIGHBORMAN

[4/14/2014 2:26:44 PM] ChrisO .: would probabbly be the best claim for you

[4/14/2014 2:27:13 PM] ChrisO .: because not claiming BPV would be scummy since it would cause town to waste their vigshot on you if they shoot you

[4/14/2014 2:27:58 PM] Raymond: It can just as likely cause mafia to waste their kill by hitting my BP

Really, I think not claiming as BP is the townier thing to do

[4/14/2014 2:28:12 PM] Raymond: Unless a vig announces in public that they're gonna shoot the BP

[4/14/2014 2:28:24 PM] ChrisO .: mmmm yea

[4/14/2014 2:28:26 PM] ChrisO .: i get ya

[4/14/2014 2:43:54 PM] Raymond: I think I'm gonna go with odd-night SK

[4/14/2014 2:44:15 PM] Raymond: Or even-night SK if the wagon is D4

[4/14/2014 2:46:11 PM] Raymond: I'm also probably thinking way too much about this and should focus on more important matters for the time being. :V

[4/14/2014 2:46:30 PM] ChrisO .: like making sure the

[4/14/2014 2:46:30 PM] ChrisO .: lynch

[4/14/2014 2:46:34 PM] ChrisO .: doesn't spontaneously jump onto yuou

[4/14/2014 2:47:33 PM] Raymond: I'm not sure why they'd vote me over both BBM and Strege today, but yeah. xD

[4/14/2014 2:47:39 PM] Manix: this just in

[4/14/2014 2:47:40 PM] Manix: im gay

[4/14/2014 2:47:50 PM] Raymond: Like, not even BBM is voting me despite trying to push me. xD

[4/14/2014 2:47:54 PM] Raymond: Yo, Manix. :V

[4/14/2014 2:47:54 PM] ChrisO .: SOUND THE SIRENS

[4/14/2014 2:48:02 PM] ChrisO .: HOLD THE PRESSES

[4/14/2014 2:48:05 PM] ChrisO .: THIS IS TOP LEVEL NEWS

[4/14/2014 2:56:25 PM] Raymond: #lurkingisthebesttownstrategy

[4/14/2014 2:57:54 PM] Raymond: Actually in retrospect I'm not quite sure whether they're even players, but these two anonymous people have been staring at the game thread forever. xD

[4/14/2014 2:58:14 PM] Manix: i lurk anonymousely all the time

[4/14/2014 2:58:31 PM] Raymond: Oh ok

[4/14/2014 2:59:14 PM] Raymond: And here I've been waiting for a ground-breaking wall of text that reveals the entire scumteam of the next five games to come. D:

[4/14/2014 2:59:40 PM] Manix: nah i'm not that good

[4/14/2014 3:44:26 PM] ChrisO .: Hmm

[4/14/2014 3:44:39 PM] ChrisO .: My office comp is anon

[4/14/2014 3:44:41 PM] ChrisO .: Fyi

[4/14/2014 3:45:07 PM] Raymond: Oh, okay. D:

[4/14/2014 3:45:13 PM] ChrisO .: Also why haven't I beem lynched yet. Im active enough and mafia

[4/14/2014 3:45:16 PM] ChrisO .: Thats like

[4/14/2014 3:45:36 PM] Raymond: You're just too obvtown. :V

[4/14/2014 3:45:40 PM] ChrisO .: The minrequirements of elie getting outplayed and lynched

[4/14/2014 3:45:44 PM] ChrisO .: Im NEVER obvitown

[4/14/2014 3:45:55 PM] ChrisO .: Unless im fucking SK

[4/14/2014 3:46:04 PM] ChrisO .: Then im town mvp

[4/14/2014 3:46:08 PM] Raymond: Like, scum would never hammer a scumbuddy of theirs! Totally impossible! Unfathomable!

[4/14/2014 3:46:40 PM] ChrisO .: Even if it wasnt a madhouse there at phase end

[4/14/2014 3:46:48 PM] ChrisO .: I was still willing to shift my vote

[4/14/2014 3:46:56 PM] ChrisO .: Which I guess is town in itself

[4/14/2014 3:47:19 PM] ChrisO .: But SUDDENLY RAYKITTY

[4/14/2014 3:47:23 PM] Raymond: I was also willing to shift my vote, as much as BBM insists that I wasn't

[4/14/2014 3:47:40 PM] ChrisO .: WASNT HERE

[4/14/2014 3:47:43 PM] ChrisO .: OBVIOUSLY SCUM

[4/14/2014 3:48:00 PM] Raymond: Like, I'm not even lying about that

The hammer was literally before I could do anything

[4/14/2014 5:11:15 PM] Raymond: Man, I want something to happen. D:

[4/14/2014 5:25:33 PM] ChrisO .: yea like if

[4/14/2014 5:25:41 PM] ChrisO .: Conquerer or SB would post content

[4/14/2014 5:25:41 PM] ChrisO .: Eclipse or Strege would appear

[4/14/2014 6:21:17 PM] Raymond: So basically, according to BBM's logic, anyone who didn't vote Manix at the end of D2 must be scum.

Wouldn't that mean he'd have to lynch himself first of all, considering he had TWO votes not on Manix? lol

[4/14/2014 6:24:25 PM] ChrisO .: ITT BBM Sets himself up for lols

[4/14/2014 6:24:53 PM] ChrisO .: BBM didn't suspect Manix though, apparently. He only /kinda/ suspected Manix

[4/14/2014 6:25:41 PM] ChrisO .: which is why he's...arguing that the people who didn't vote him are likely scum? He had 2 votes...he could've put one on Manix if he suspected him instead of hording all of his votes on Elie where they did nothing

[4/14/2014 6:26:09 PM] Raymond: That's a very good point, actually. xD

[4/14/2014 6:26:49 PM] Raymond: At this point I'm just curious how CLIPSEY! will react to that

[4/14/2014 6:28:07 PM] ChrisO .: Go ahead and post that

[4/14/2014 6:28:14 PM] ChrisO .: I don't need to right now

[4/14/2014 6:28:21 PM] ChrisO .: and you need to get attention towards BBM

[4/14/2014 6:28:36 PM] Raymond: Not right now, but I'll probably bring it up if he keeps going

[4/14/2014 6:28:47 PM] ChrisO .: since he's prodding you. If I jump in, it's gonna look like buddying and I'm not good at arguing against buddying

[4/14/2014 6:28:57 PM] Raymond: Yeah, don't jump in

[4/14/2014 6:30:00 PM] Raymond: You'll most likely have to carry the win, so take good care of that obvtowniness of yours. :V

[4/14/2014 6:30:07 PM] ChrisO .: Even if I do

[4/14/2014 6:30:10 PM] ChrisO .: I have 2 fricken

[4/14/2014 6:30:11 PM] ChrisO .: HOOKERS

[4/14/2014 6:30:14 PM] ChrisO .: to dismantle

[4/14/2014 6:30:24 PM] ChrisO .: and a possible Bomb (which is easy mislynch fodder, but still(

[4/14/2014 6:30:36 PM] Raymond: But the hookers currently have no reason to target you

[4/14/2014 6:31:16 PM] Raymond: Also if SB targets you, he'll automatically make you immune to the next hook as well, so I think you're worrying a bit too much. xD

[4/14/2014 6:33:07 PM] Raymond: ...although I gotta admit, hookers hooking hookers is a bit numbing to wrap your mind around. xD

[4/14/2014 6:33:32 PM] ChrisO .: wellllll

[4/14/2014 6:33:35 PM] ChrisO .: I mean like

[4/14/2014 6:33:38 PM] ChrisO .: if 5 players are alive

[4/14/2014 6:33:44 PM] ChrisO .: and 3 of them are hookers (including me)

[4/14/2014 6:33:51 PM] ChrisO .: it's reeeeally easy to hook a kill

[4/14/2014 6:35:11 PM] Raymond: You really only need to jail SB and hope you have higher priority. I don't see why CLIPSEY! would try to hook you unless she'd also consider you a viable lynch target, and even then if I understood her role correctly (assuming she didn't lie about it), she needs to target the same person two nights in a row to hook them, and it'll only take effect the second night

[4/14/2014 6:35:34 PM] Raymond: So kill off SB as soon as possible I guess. xD

[4/14/2014 6:37:55 PM] Raymond: Considering even though people don't want to give him town cred for voting Manix, like, absolutely nobody except me actually wants to lynch him

[4/14/2014 6:40:07 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/14/2014 6:40:29 PM] ChrisO .: Strege not claiming hooked implies shit

[4/14/2014 6:40:35 PM] ChrisO .: Conq probably just used an item

[4/14/2014 6:40:36 PM] ChrisO .: umm

[4/14/2014 6:40:40 PM] ChrisO .: SB would make a decent target

[4/14/2014 6:40:43 PM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/14/2014 6:43:06 PM] ChrisO .: though hmm

[4/14/2014 6:43:09 PM] ChrisO .: why is j00 town again?

[4/14/2014 6:43:25 PM] Raymond: I have no idea

[4/14/2014 6:43:49 PM] Raymond: Everyone just pretty much decided they're obvtown... ...just because

???

[4/14/2014 6:48:49 PM] Raymond: Anyway I need to go to sleep

[4/14/2014 6:49:00 PM] Raymond: Good night!

[4/14/2014 6:49:36 PM] ChrisO .: LATER SKAYER

[4/15/2014 7:04:08 AM] Raymond: So I went to sleep and all of nothing happened! \o/

[4/15/2014 7:04:42 AM] ChrisO .: EXACTLY NOTHING

[4/15/2014 7:04:44 AM] ChrisO .: TO BE PRECISE

[4/15/2014 7:05:14 AM] *** Manix has changed the conversation topic to "#sfmafia towns: now with more apathy" ***

[4/15/2014 7:05:22 AM] Manix: fix'd topic

[4/15/2014 7:05:26 AM] Raymond: \o/

[4/15/2014 7:07:32 AM] ChrisO .: I'd be more apathetic

[4/15/2014 7:07:36 AM] ChrisO .: if I weren't so lethargic

[4/15/2014 7:08:46 AM] Raymond: Also, I realized I can't claim odd-night SK because if I was, CLIPSEY! would've died N1 since Bal must've targeted me. So even-night SK it is. :V

[4/15/2014 7:09:32 AM] ChrisO .: wat was balcerdork?

[4/15/2014 7:09:41 AM] ChrisO .: also

[4/15/2014 7:09:46 AM] ChrisO .: Strege probably gave Conq a Vest

[4/15/2014 7:09:52 AM] ChrisO .: you need to shoot him tonight

[4/15/2014 7:10:49 AM] Raymond: Motivator

Yeah, probably will do so if I don't need to claim SK beforehand

[4/15/2014 7:11:05 AM] ChrisO .: Oh

[4/15/2014 7:11:05 AM] ChrisO .: right

[4/15/2014 7:11:10 AM] Raymond: Actually, Conq said he tried to USE his item though, so it can't be a vest?

[4/15/2014 7:11:22 AM] ChrisO .: Paper gave him an item N1

[4/15/2014 7:11:31 AM] ChrisO .: Strege gave him a blacksmith'd item N2

[4/15/2014 7:11:39 AM] ChrisO .: so hes should have 2 items now

[4/15/2014 7:11:49 AM] Raymond: Oh wow, look who's popular. :V xD

[4/15/2014 7:13:07 AM] ChrisO .: so todya we try to lynch strege

[4/15/2014 7:13:16 AM] ChrisO .: Strongkill Conq tonight

[4/15/2014 7:13:38 AM] ChrisO .: if we can get away without lynching you tomorrow, hopefully we can get SB

[4/15/2014 7:13:50 AM] ChrisO .: or use the "Magically make X into some alignment" for j00

[4/15/2014 7:15:09 AM] Raymond: I'm confident I can avoid getting lynched for one day by claiming SK unless the town is more apathetic than I thought

[4/15/2014 7:16:04 AM] ChrisO .: what if tomorrow

[4/15/2014 7:16:16 AM] ChrisO .: you have to explain 2 NKs

[4/15/2014 7:16:20 AM] ChrisO .: would EvenSK really work?

[4/15/2014 7:16:43 AM] ChrisO .: it'd get you hooked, that's for sure, assuming you aren't lynched on the spot

[4/15/2014 7:16:44 AM] Raymond: Why would there be 2 NKs? o_o"

[4/15/2014 7:16:56 AM] ChrisO .: I mean like

[4/15/2014 7:16:59 AM] ChrisO .: explain why you failed

[4/15/2014 7:17:48 AM] Raymond: That's the idea, though

I'll claim even night SK precisely so I DON'T have to make up shit for why my kills failed, because in that case my only kill so far was N2. xD

[4/15/2014 7:18:15 AM] ChrisO .: and

[4/15/2014 7:18:18 AM] ChrisO .: how do I respond

[4/15/2014 7:18:21 AM] ChrisO .: in a way that's not like

[4/15/2014 7:18:23 AM] ChrisO .: too distancing

[4/15/2014 7:18:29 AM] ChrisO .: or too buddying or whatever

[4/15/2014 7:18:48 AM] Raymond: Believe in the power of Prims setups, it's possible. 8D

Pretend you're not there for a while and see how the others react.

[4/15/2014 7:18:53 AM] ChrisO .: I'll probably feign lurk

[4/15/2014 7:18:53 AM] ChrisO .: Yep

[4/15/2014 2:08:15 PM] Raymond: I like how absolutely nothing is happening

[4/15/2014 3:02:37 PM] ChrisO .: YE

[4/15/2014 3:02:37 PM] ChrisO .: THIS GAME

[4/15/2014 3:02:37 PM] ChrisO .: THIS GAYME

[4/15/2014 3:02:45 PM] ChrisO .: RAY RAY WHYYYYYY

[4/15/2014 3:02:47 PM] ChrisO .: PLEASE DON'T BE VOTED OFF

[4/15/2014 3:02:57 PM] ChrisO .: I ALWAYS GET POE'D

[4/15/2014 3:04:17 PM] Raymond: I can't be voted off if nobody can be bothered to even post in the damn game. xD

[4/15/2014 3:05:33 PM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/15/2014 3:39:57 PM] ChrisO .: Sb kinda

[4/15/2014 3:40:05 PM] ChrisO .: Finds you scummy

[4/15/2014 3:40:40 PM] Raymond: Okay, what madness is this

[4/15/2014 3:40:58 PM] Raymond: Town making up shit to paint mafia in a bad light? Shouldn't that be the other way around?

[4/15/2014 3:43:22 PM] ChrisO .: Hmmmm

[4/15/2014 3:44:00 PM] ChrisO .: I still dont think you are gonna get lynched today

[4/15/2014 3:44:16 PM] ChrisO .: Imo strege is towns actual "doctor"

[4/15/2014 3:44:30 PM] ChrisO .: And handing out vests

[4/15/2014 3:44:46 PM] ChrisO .: Sb clearly in my favor

[4/15/2014 3:44:50 PM] ChrisO .: But youre bpv

[4/15/2014 3:44:55 PM] ChrisO .: Hmmmmmmmmmm

[4/15/2014 3:55:19 PM] Raymond: inb4 SB does a 180° and wants me lynched for dropping my read on him

[4/15/2014 4:20:32 PM] ChrisO .: >_>

[4/15/2014 4:20:39 PM] ChrisO .: Also strege for

[4/15/2014 4:20:42 PM] ChrisO .: Being the only one

[4/15/2014 4:20:48 PM] ChrisO .: To read everyone backwards from the trend

[4/15/2014 4:20:59 PM] Raymond: lol yeah. xD

[4/15/2014 4:24:43 PM] ChrisO .: Im a teeeny bit worried

[4/15/2014 4:24:45 PM] ChrisO .: Tho

[4/15/2014 4:24:50 PM] ChrisO .: Ill look at j00 later

[4/15/2014 4:24:56 PM] ChrisO .: And see what I missed

[4/15/2014 4:25:00 PM] ChrisO .: My excuse will be that

[4/15/2014 4:25:16 PM] ChrisO .: My d1 reads obviously are disconnected since that was VHALTZTIME

[4/15/2014 4:25:20 PM] ChrisO .: And not elietime

[4/16/2014 7:15:44 AM] Raymond: Wait why is Conq voting me

[4/16/2014 7:17:16 AM] ChrisO .: no real reason

[4/16/2014 7:17:16 AM] ChrisO .: i think

[4/16/2014 7:17:56 AM] Raymond: Uhhh. Okay. xD

[4/16/2014 10:11:50 AM] Raymond: I'm terrible at this game

[4/16/2014 10:13:27 AM] ChrisO .: :(

[4/16/2014 10:13:32 AM] ChrisO .: Me too, raykitty. Me too

[4/16/2014 10:15:11 AM] Raymond: No Elie, you're obvtown

[4/16/2014 10:16:04 AM] Raymond: At least until somebody suddenly decides you're actually not

[4/16/2014 10:16:44 AM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/16/2014 10:16:44 AM] ChrisO .: and

[4/16/2014 10:16:55 AM] ChrisO .: it'll get to the point where

[4/16/2014 10:17:04 AM] ChrisO .: HEY WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THESE INVENTORS BUT WE CAN HAVE ALL THESE HOOKERS

[4/16/2014 10:17:04 AM] ChrisO .: WAIT

[4/16/2014 10:17:11 AM] ChrisO .: NO WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THESE HOOKERS EITHER

[4/16/2014 10:17:19 AM] ChrisO .: LYNCH ELIE, HE WAS AFK FOR PART OF D3

[4/16/2014 10:24:03 AM] Raymond: I have reason to believe this game contains precisely 13 town hookers.

[4/16/2014 10:26:56 AM] ChrisO .: precisely?

[4/16/2014 10:26:57 AM] ChrisO .: or approximately?

[4/16/2014 10:27:10 AM] ChrisO .: 13, rounding down

[4/16/2014 10:28:23 AM] Raymond: I lied. It's actually 13.3. :V

[4/16/2014 10:28:33 AM] ChrisO .: 13.3 hookers

[4/16/2014 10:28:38 AM] ChrisO .: Oh right

[4/16/2014 10:28:39 AM] ChrisO .: Eclipse is conditional

[4/16/2014 10:28:42 AM] ChrisO .: apparently?

[4/16/2014 10:28:59 AM] Raymond: She needs to target the same person two nights in a row to hook them

[4/16/2014 10:29:12 AM] ChrisO .: Oh

[4/16/2014 10:29:12 AM] ChrisO .: that's

[4/16/2014 10:29:13 AM] ChrisO .: stupid

[4/16/2014 10:34:01 AM] ChrisO .: by stupid i mean

[4/16/2014 10:34:03 AM] ChrisO .: it's town

[4/16/2014 10:34:04 AM] ChrisO .: imo

[4/16/2014 10:34:12 AM] ChrisO .: why would scum have a conditional hook like that

[4/16/2014 10:34:40 AM] Raymond: They wouldn't, but it's an interesting fake-claim.

[4/16/2014 10:40:56 AM] ChrisO .: hmmm

[4/16/2014 10:40:58 AM] ChrisO .: lots of our claims

[4/16/2014 10:41:03 AM] ChrisO .: are interesting fakeclaims

[4/16/2014 10:41:42 AM] ChrisO .: wait

[4/16/2014 10:41:49 AM] ChrisO .: is refadead?

[4/16/2014 10:42:11 AM] Raymond: No, he's just lurking like a boss

[4/16/2014 10:51:28 AM] ChrisO .: ok yea

[4/16/2014 10:51:29 AM] ChrisO .: Refa

[4/16/2014 10:51:31 AM] ChrisO .: is lurk

[4/16/2014 10:51:32 AM] ChrisO .: so bad

[4/16/2014 10:51:41 AM] ChrisO .: who would you rather lynch

[4/16/2014 10:51:42 AM] ChrisO .: atm?

[4/16/2014 10:51:47 AM] ChrisO .: 7 hours left, we need to consolidate

[4/16/2014 10:51:53 AM] Raymond: I honestly have no clue

[4/16/2014 10:51:59 AM] Raymond: I wasn't lying when I said I was out of it. xD"

[4/16/2014 10:52:13 AM] ChrisO .: OK

[4/16/2014 10:52:23 AM] ChrisO .: Conq/J00/Refa aren't happening

[4/16/2014 10:52:31 AM] ChrisO .: Elieson/eclipse/SB probably aren't happening

[4/16/2014 10:52:40 AM] ChrisO .: that leaves Strege/You/BBM

[4/16/2014 10:53:01 AM] Raymond: Well, my vote's on BBM and I certainly don't want *myself* lynched, so yeah

[4/16/2014 10:53:03 AM] ChrisO .: I'd try to push SB

[4/16/2014 10:53:05 AM] ChrisO .: if only because having one less hooker

[4/16/2014 10:53:11 AM] ChrisO .: means that you can

[4/16/2014 10:53:11 AM] ChrisO .: wait

[4/16/2014 10:53:12 AM] ChrisO .: does your Stronk

[4/16/2014 10:53:14 AM] ChrisO .: bypass hooks

[4/16/2014 10:53:19 AM] ChrisO .: as well as protection?

[4/16/2014 10:53:44 AM] Raymond: I'm not quite sure about hooks, but I don't think even the strongkill will succeed if I'm hooked

[4/16/2014 10:53:47 AM] ChrisO .: you're looking like a solid hook target for SBderp

[4/16/2014 10:53:55 AM] ChrisO .: and

[4/16/2014 10:54:01 AM] ChrisO .: removing Conq

[4/16/2014 10:54:01 AM] Raymond: So if SB is paying attention to the game and hooks me tonight, it's gg

[4/16/2014 10:54:06 AM] ChrisO .: is imperative

[4/16/2014 10:54:32 AM] ChrisO .: i dunno if we can build a SB wagon

[4/16/2014 10:54:40 AM] ChrisO .: he's not looking worse than half the players alive

[4/16/2014 10:54:48 AM] Raymond: I most definitely can't without making myself look like a complete idiot

[4/16/2014 10:55:28 AM] ChrisO .: wait to see if anyone votes for anyone else

[4/16/2014 10:55:35 AM] ChrisO .: Strege is vanilla atm

[4/16/2014 10:55:49 AM] ChrisO .: but lynching him proves that Conq is like

[4/16/2014 10:55:51 AM] ChrisO .: commuter

[4/16/2014 10:56:06 AM] ChrisO .: because he apparently gave Conq a limitless Commute item

[4/16/2014 12:26:36 PM] ChrisO .: ok

[4/16/2014 12:26:38 PM] ChrisO .: i'm gonna

[4/16/2014 12:26:40 PM] ChrisO .: push you

[4/16/2014 12:27:23 PM] Raymond: Sure whatever

[4/16/2014 12:28:08 PM] ChrisO .: react if you want but it's just one line lol

[4/16/2014 12:28:14 PM] ChrisO .: i just realized that

[4/16/2014 12:28:17 PM] ChrisO .: if you end up flipping

[4/16/2014 12:28:28 PM] ChrisO .: and people notice that I -completely- ignored you

[4/16/2014 12:28:38 PM] ChrisO .: I'm like the only person who hasn't said anything about you

[4/16/2014 12:36:42 PM] ChrisO .: OH

[4/16/2014 12:36:43 PM] ChrisO .: RAY

[4/16/2014 12:36:44 PM] ChrisO .: RAYRAYRAY

[4/16/2014 12:36:46 PM] ChrisO .: IDE

[4/16/2014 12:36:46 PM] ChrisO .: A

[4/16/2014 12:37:06 PM] ChrisO .: we can OC

[4/16/2014 12:37:08 PM] ChrisO .: Conq

[4/16/2014 12:37:11 PM] ChrisO .: in private

[4/16/2014 12:37:13 PM] ChrisO .: I think?

[4/16/2014 12:37:25 PM] Raymond: I think so, just give Prims logs

[4/16/2014 2:53:55 PM] Raymond: Refa, reading himself as town like a pro

[4/16/2014 2:57:58 PM] ChrisO .: INO that's hilarious breakdown of his ISO

[4/16/2014 3:28:10 PM] Raymond: Why are 5 anons reading the game

[4/16/2014 3:29:51 PM] Manix: hi

[4/16/2014 3:29:56 PM] Manix: i be one

[4/16/2014 3:30:14 PM] Raymond: Yeah, I remember you saying that, but that's still a lot. xD

[4/16/2014 4:17:49 PM] Raymond: Just a heads up, I'm pretty sure I put Strege at L-1 with that vote. I don't remember whom you're voting right now, Elie

[4/16/2014 4:50:13 PM] Raymond: BBM is reading the thread

[4/16/2014 4:50:27 PM] Raymond: I'll be very pissed if he decides it'd be funny to just quickhammer me. D:

[4/16/2014 4:50:42 PM] Manix: but think of the cred

[4/16/2014 4:51:21 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/16/2014 4:51:42 PM] ChrisO .: THE CRED MAN THE CRED

[4/16/2014 5:10:21 PM] Raymond: I think that was hammer

[spoiler=Night 3] [4/16/2014 6:10:33 PM] ChrisO .: Boom

[4/16/2014 6:10:36 PM] ChrisO .: You didn't die

[4/16/2014 6:10:36 PM] ChrisO .: OK SO

[4/16/2014 6:10:48 PM] ChrisO .: We have A KILL, and MY JAIL, to plan for tonight

[4/16/2014 6:10:53 PM] ChrisO .: CONQ is UBERPROTECTED SO

[4/16/2014 6:42:05 PM] Raymond: Sorry, I was busy getting my face destroyed by Touhou 14 Lunatic

[4/16/2014 6:42:24 PM] ChrisO .: 2hu?

[4/16/2014 6:42:27 PM] ChrisO .: oh

[4/16/2014 6:42:36 PM] ChrisO .: anumu galaga

[4/16/2014 6:44:33 PM] Raymond: Let me check the flip (although it's probably what we expected)

[4/16/2014 6:45:39 PM] Raymond: Okay yeah. xD

[4/16/2014 6:46:17 PM] Raymond: I'm 80% sure SB will try to delay/hook me tonight, so I guess our best bet is for you to jail & kill him

[4/16/2014 6:46:26 PM] Raymond: I'll probably idle

[4/16/2014 6:46:41 PM] Raymond: Oh, hold on

[4/16/2014 6:46:47 PM] Raymond: If you jail him he won't die. xD

[4/16/2014 6:46:52 PM] Raymond: I'm an idiot

[4/16/2014 6:47:18 PM] Raymond: But yeah, I think you should kill SB

[4/16/2014 6:47:33 PM] Raymond: No idea on who else to jail

[4/16/2014 6:47:58 PM] Raymond: Prims, are you there?

[4/16/2014 6:48:47 PM] Prims: hi

[4/16/2014 6:48:51 PM] Raymond: Yo

[4/16/2014 6:49:10 PM] Raymond: Just making sure: if I'm hooked/delayed, even my strongkill would fail, right?

[4/16/2014 7:01:01 PM] Raymond: Guuuys, I think our Prims is broken. D:

[4/16/2014 7:02:04 PM] Manix: you killed him

[4/16/2014 7:02:18 PM] Raymond: No I'm idling

[4/16/2014 7:02:22 PM] Raymond: What is this sorcery

[4/16/2014 7:02:35 PM] Raymond: Is Bal not actually dead

[4/16/2014 7:02:43 PM] Manix: spoilers i actually killed him i'm hidden sk

[4/16/2014 7:02:56 PM] Raymond: Wait, that'd mean this game has 3 SKs

[4/16/2014 7:03:23 PM] Raymond: Clearly, you're actually the ITP DOCTOR

[4/16/2014 7:05:36 PM] ChrisO .: OOOO

[4/16/2014 7:05:40 PM] ChrisO .: IT ALL MAKES SENSE

[4/16/2014 7:05:48 PM] ChrisO .: wait that was me last primsgame

[4/16/2014 7:05:54 PM] ChrisO .: itp skdoc

[4/16/2014 7:07:17 PM] Raymond: You must also be a nexus, because none of the 7 town hookers targeting you seemed to have any effect

[4/16/2014 7:09:28 PM] Raymond: Either that or the entire game fakeclaimed the same thing

[4/16/2014 7:09:38 PM] Raymond: Which has happened before

[4/16/2014 7:10:13 PM] Manix: fakeclaim cop

[4/16/2014 7:10:16 PM] Manix: all day erryday

[4/16/2014 7:10:32 PM] Raymond: I actually wanted to do that at some point

[4/16/2014 7:10:44 PM] Raymond: Not in this game since I rolled mafia, but still

[4/16/2014 7:11:11 PM] Raymond: Pull a WoMC and claim a random guilty on someone

[4/16/2014 7:11:18 PM] Raymond: Never works, but is hilarious

[4/16/2014 7:45:15 PM] Raymond: Well, I can't wait any longer, I'm pretty much falling asleep in my chair.

I posted some stuff in the mafia QT (inconceivable!).

Good night!

[4/16/2014 8:10:49 PM] Prims: [Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:49 PM] Raymond:

<<< Just making sure: if I'm hooked/delayed, even my strongkill would fail, right?yes

[4/16/2014 8:25:37 PM] ChrisO .: awww

[4/16/2014 8:25:42 PM] ChrisO .: then

[4/16/2014 8:25:45 PM] ChrisO .: NOOOO

[4/17/2014 8:53:20 AM] Raymond: Alright, I expected as much. xD

[4/17/2014 8:53:49 AM] ChrisO .: Gah

[4/17/2014 8:54:12 AM] ChrisO .: I hope sb dies

[4/17/2014 8:55:02 AM] Raymond: If he somehow survives, it's pretty much gg

[4/17/2014 9:09:17 AM] ChrisO .: YEA

[4/17/2014 9:09:21 AM] ChrisO .: Also regardless

[4/17/2014 9:20:08 AM] ChrisO .: I look worse when SB dies

[4/17/2014 9:20:11 AM] ChrisO .: i think

[4/17/2014 9:21:32 AM] Raymond: Well, people seemed to be pretty happy to accept there being 3 town roleblockers. :newyears:

[4/17/2014 9:21:47 AM] ChrisO .: yea but

[4/17/2014 9:21:57 AM] ChrisO .: with UBERBLOCK blanket existing

[4/17/2014 9:22:02 AM] ChrisO .: i suppose it's like

[4/17/2014 9:22:07 AM] ChrisO .: my role, just

[4/17/2014 9:22:13 AM] ChrisO .: buffed, and single target

[4/17/2014 9:23:13 AM] Raymond: But yours can also block the target

I'm pretty sure the blanket needs to be actively used, so I'd rather consider it an alternate night action than a block

[4/17/2014 9:23:56 AM] ChrisO .: it's like

[4/17/2014 9:24:01 AM] ChrisO .: he has a Commute item

[4/17/2014 9:24:10 AM] Raymond: Now, of course I can't really predict the town's PoV

[4/17/2014 9:24:23 AM] ChrisO .: yhea

[4/17/2014 9:24:26 AM] ChrisO .: especially BBM

[4/17/2014 9:24:31 AM] ChrisO .: who's all-the-fuck-over the place

[4/17/2014 9:24:33 AM] ChrisO .: BUT yet

[4/17/2014 9:24:42 AM] ChrisO .: Strege dead

[4/17/2014 9:24:45 AM] ChrisO .: who does that incriminate?

[4/17/2014 9:24:51 AM] ChrisO .: who pushed strege the hardest

[4/17/2014 9:24:53 AM] ChrisO .: and the weakest?

[4/17/2014 9:25:13 AM] Raymond: BBM is gonna look bad, I think

[4/17/2014 9:25:20 AM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/17/2014 9:25:30 AM] Raymond: He was like "Strege must be confirmed scum and there's no way I could possibly be wrong!"

[4/17/2014 9:25:30 AM] ChrisO .: Refa and j00

[4/17/2014 9:25:38 AM] ChrisO .: I think we need to be on

[4/17/2014 9:25:57 AM] Raymond: And I think the jab at Refa yesterday worked pretty well, so yeah

[4/17/2014 9:26:05 AM] Raymond: Not sure about j00, though

[4/17/2014 9:26:08 AM] ChrisO .: j00's on her A-game though in this one

[4/17/2014 9:26:10 AM] ChrisO .: probably Refa

[4/17/2014 9:26:27 AM] ChrisO .: assuming SB dies, 7 alive tomorrow means

[4/17/2014 9:26:34 AM] ChrisO .: you and I represent half of a lynch

[4/17/2014 9:26:44 AM] ChrisO .: REfa wants BBM ded

[4/17/2014 9:26:47 AM] ChrisO .: and Conq

[4/17/2014 9:26:59 AM] ChrisO .: he's a little wildcard here

[4/17/2014 9:27:22 AM] Raymond: Last I checked, Conq thought lynching the neighborizer was a brilliant idea

[4/17/2014 9:29:57 AM] ChrisO .: Conquerer to me in PM: I am probably going to look closer in the pool of you/SB/eclipse because 1) tail end of the wagon and 2) the rolemess.

I don't think BBM is scum from his D3 effort. Refa's end of day posts were pretty good, and I've liked j00's posts all game, so.

Reply

[4/17/2014 9:30:02 AM] ChrisO .: thoughts

1) mafia sucks

2) I think raymond is a good bet for scum

3) admittedly I'm not sure who would be scum after that. I highly doubt a bbm/raymond team which means I'm going to have to play the game of "who bussed manix."

[4/17/2014 9:30:57 AM] Raymond: [Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:30 AM] ChrisO .:

<<< 1) mafia sucks Damn right it does!

[4/17/2014 9:31:51 AM] Raymond: Still, I don't have any better ideas at this point

[4/17/2014 9:32:10 AM] ChrisO .: so pushing BBM

[4/17/2014 9:32:14 AM] ChrisO .: might make me look better

[4/17/2014 9:32:20 AM] ChrisO .: because who the heck would tunnel someone ALL GAME LONG

[4/17/2014 9:32:29 AM] ChrisO .: and BUS, at that

[4/17/2014 9:32:47 AM] ChrisO .: and doesn't make you look worse

[4/17/2014 9:33:07 AM] ChrisO .: eclipse is just complaining of headaches

[4/17/2014 9:33:13 AM] ChrisO .: so i dunno what her thoughts are

[4/17/2014 9:33:14 AM] Raymond: Yeah

As for tonight: it's either SB dying, thus narrowing down the pool among which we can hide, or SB living and possibly hooking us. I think the latter is worse, since not only does it hinder our progress, it would also 100% get us lynched.

[4/17/2014 9:33:17 AM] ChrisO .: except that i think she likes you

[4/17/2014 9:33:46 AM] ChrisO .: unless we can argue WIFOM hard enough

[4/17/2014 9:33:48 AM] ChrisO .: I /ALMOST/ want to lynch j00

[4/17/2014 9:33:55 AM] ChrisO .: as it keeps SB on the table for being a suspect

[4/17/2014 9:34:00 AM] ChrisO .: *Kill j00*

[4/17/2014 9:34:37 AM] Raymond: Thinking about it, j00 is the only player we still don't know the role of.

[4/17/2014 9:34:55 AM] ChrisO .: (And Refa, who /MUST/ be something + announcer)

[4/17/2014 9:35:07 AM] Raymond: Well, I guess

[4/17/2014 9:35:18 AM] Raymond: Although I have no idea what Refa would be in addition to announcer

[4/17/2014 9:35:27 AM] Raymond: I can't imagine ITP at this point

[4/17/2014 9:35:29 AM] ChrisO .: inb4 Docnouncer

[4/17/2014 9:35:47 AM] Raymond: 3 docs in--

...well we have 3 hookers, scratch that. xD

[4/17/2014 9:35:53 AM] ChrisO .: XD

[4/17/2014 9:36:14 AM] ChrisO .: well yea i mean

[4/17/2014 9:36:18 AM] ChrisO .: j00 could be a threat

[4/17/2014 9:36:21 AM] Raymond: Thing is, nobody seemed particularly eager to lynch SB

[4/17/2014 9:36:26 AM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/17/2014 9:36:27 AM] ChrisO .: Conq but

[4/17/2014 9:37:05 AM] ChrisO .: thats it really

[4/17/2014 9:37:07 AM] Raymond: And at this point I can't really make a case on him because reasons

[4/17/2014 9:38:00 AM] Raymond: So I think killing SB is still the best shot we have tonight

[4/17/2014 9:38:04 AM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/17/2014 9:38:06 AM] ChrisO .: j00 isn't really

[4/17/2014 9:38:09 AM] ChrisO .: argued as innocent

[4/17/2014 9:38:12 AM] Raymond: Yep

[4/17/2014 9:38:20 AM] ChrisO .: and could potentially be the "OHAI J00 IS SCUM" of D4

[4/17/2014 9:38:24 AM] ChrisO .: like you were on d3

[4/17/2014 9:38:31 AM] Raymond: And depending on how D4 goes (and whether I live or not), either Conq or CLIPSEY! next

[4/17/2014 10:53:31 AM] Raymond: I guess I should go and find something to post at night, but re-reading the entire game... Ugh

[4/17/2014 10:54:12 AM] ChrisO .: i'm ISO'ing

[4/17/2014 10:54:16 AM] ChrisO .: and feel like i'm getting nothing

[4/17/2014 11:17:28 AM] Vhaltz: hey guys I love you (heart)

[4/17/2014 11:18:27 AM] Vhaltz: this is why I can't let Mitsuki use my computer unsupervised

[4/17/2014 11:18:43 AM] Vhaltz: she just starts giggling and I immediately know something's wrong

[4/17/2014 11:18:51 AM] Raymond: :V

[4/17/2014 11:19:19 AM] ChrisO .: he

[4/17/2014 11:19:22 AM] ChrisO .: I love it~

[4/17/2014 11:20:38 AM] Vhaltz: he acts as if I'm not giggling on purpose

[4/17/2014 11:21:10 AM] Vhaltz: he's LAZY and he won't do stuff unless I troll him ù_u

[4/17/2014 11:21:14 AM] ChrisO .: Ahhhh

[4/17/2014 11:21:16 AM] ChrisO .: You're just doing it

[4/17/2014 11:21:22 AM] ChrisO .: to make him do your bidding

[4/17/2014 11:22:37 AM] Vhaltz: that's a part of the reason

[4/17/2014 11:22:56 AM] Vhaltz: and now I'll stop spamming

[4/17/2014 11:40:20 AM] Raymond: Okay, I got something

[4/17/2014 11:42:45 AM] Raymond: There

[4/17/2014 12:27:57 PM] ChrisO .: ?

[4/17/2014 12:28:18 PM] Raymond: neighbor QT

[4/17/2014 12:28:33 PM] Raymond: I actually found some stuff to put the blame on BBM (and Refa I guess). :V

[4/17/2014 4:34:55 PM] Prims: [Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:18 AM] Vhaltz:

<<< this is why I can't let Mitsuki use my computer unsupervised

she just starts giggling and I immediately know something's wrong

kaoz rabu rabu

[4/17/2014 5:51:22 PM] Prims: elie what's your exact action again

[4/17/2014 5:51:28 PM] Prims: jail raymond kill sb?

[4/17/2014 5:51:45 PM] Raymond: I think so, yes

[4/17/2014 5:57:58 PM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/17/2014 5:58:01 PM] ChrisO .: that's correct

[4/17/2014 5:58:12 PM] ChrisO .: I'd jail SB kill SB but my own jailing prevents SB from getting killed afaik

[spoiler=Day 4][4/17/2014 7:03:43 PM] ChrisO .: Kool, DeadBanana

[4/17/2014 7:03:52 PM] ChrisO .: I'm expectiing a shit-ton of pressure today

[4/17/2014 7:19:00 PM] ChrisO .: FUCKING TRACK ITEM

[4/17/2014 7:19:03 PM] ChrisO .: I KNEW IT

I CALLED IT

[4/17/2014 7:19:05 PM] ChrisO .: I FUCKING

[4/17/2014 7:19:06 PM] ChrisO .: CALLED IT

[4/17/2014 7:19:24 PM] Raymond: I call hax

[4/17/2014 7:20:31 PM] ChrisO .: I'm claiming

[4/17/2014 7:20:31 PM] ChrisO .: SK?

[4/17/2014 7:20:33 PM] ChrisO .: i guess?>

[4/17/2014 7:21:03 PM] Raymond: ...*I* was going to, but I guess you doing it instead also works? xD

[4/17/2014 7:21:12 PM] ChrisO .: well if you do it

[4/17/2014 7:21:15 PM] ChrisO .: you're dead anyway

[4/17/2014 7:21:18 PM] ChrisO .: I'm going down

[4/17/2014 7:21:19 PM] ChrisO .: and I jailed you

[4/17/2014 7:21:20 PM] ChrisO .: SO

[4/17/2014 7:21:25 PM] ChrisO .: when the flip occurs

[4/17/2014 7:21:30 PM] ChrisO .: it looks like I entirely hit you

[4/17/2014 7:21:32 PM] ChrisO .: and might giev you some cred

[4/17/2014 7:21:45 PM] Raymond: Yeah, considering this turn of events, I guess so

[4/17/2014 7:22:47 PM] Raymond: Prims? Am I right in assuming that posts in either of the QTs don't count towards the posting restriction?

[4/17/2014 7:23:28 PM] Prims: yes

[4/17/2014 7:23:35 PM] Raymond: Okay, thanks

[4/17/2014 7:24:23 PM] ChrisO .: damnitall

[4/17/2014 7:24:27 PM] ChrisO .: hopefully my flip

[4/17/2014 7:24:28 PM] ChrisO .: can

[4/17/2014 7:24:33 PM] ChrisO .: help give you some innocence

[4/17/2014 7:24:36 PM] ChrisO .: because if Conq is dead

[4/17/2014 7:24:38 PM] ChrisO .: err

[4/17/2014 7:24:39 PM] ChrisO .: Alive

[4/17/2014 7:24:47 PM] ChrisO .: and I'm dead, my flip will say Jailsomniac

[4/17/2014 7:25:04 PM] ChrisO .: and the whole neighbor thing will fall apart. I can't really mention you though right now

[4/17/2014 7:25:25 PM] Raymond: I guess there's no need to mention me at this point. xD"

[4/17/2014 7:25:32 PM] ChrisO .: not really

[4/17/2014 7:25:37 PM] ChrisO .: I'll still feign scumhunting

[4/17/2014 7:36:53 PM] Raymond: Oh god I have no idea how to review a dress. xD

[4/17/2014 7:37:04 PM] ChrisO .: Talk about the colors

[4/17/2014 7:37:06 PM] ChrisO .: patterns

[4/17/2014 7:37:14 PM] ChrisO .: and how it accentuates the figure

[4/17/2014 7:37:17 PM] ChrisO .: of the person wearing it

[4/17/2014 7:37:36 PM] Prims: Also Raymond you should give it a numerical (or letter) rating at the end too if possible

[4/17/2014 7:38:09 PM] Raymond: Uh, that should be the least of my problems, so yeah. xD"

[4/17/2014 7:38:21 PM] ChrisO .: prims can I just do it for him?

[4/17/2014 7:38:24 PM] ChrisO .: i mean

[4/17/2014 7:38:26 PM] ChrisO .: not like

[4/17/2014 7:38:28 PM] ChrisO .: I want to rate outfits

[4/17/2014 7:38:30 PM] ChrisO .: or anything

[4/17/2014 7:39:10 PM] Raymond: I can do it, I can do it! ...probably. It'll just take a while. xD

[4/17/2014 7:53:56 PM] Raymond: Okay, so

[4/17/2014 7:54:08 PM] Raymond: I hope that'll suffice, I honestly can't come up with anything better. xD

[4/17/2014 7:56:20 PM] ChrisO .: lol

[4/17/2014 7:56:20 PM] ChrisO .: Rating

[4/17/2014 7:56:22 PM] ChrisO .: A

[4/17/2014 7:56:23 PM] ChrisO .: i love it

[4/17/2014 7:58:54 PM] ChrisO .: Yea

[4/17/2014 7:58:56 PM] ChrisO .: LIKE

[4/17/2014 7:58:58 PM] ChrisO .: DKJSNF

[4/17/2014 7:59:01 PM] ChrisO .: WHERE DID I SAY

[4/17/2014 7:59:02 PM] ChrisO .: TRACK

[4/17/2014 7:59:38 PM] ChrisO .: "Basically, if we do that, I can't post until Conq posts, because until I know what his item is, we can't match up stories. It might be a track on me, for all I know."

[4/17/2014 7:59:46 PM] ChrisO .: RAY

[4/17/2014 7:59:46 PM] ChrisO .: I

[4/17/2014 7:59:47 PM] ChrisO .: SAId

[4/17/2014 7:59:48 PM] ChrisO .: IT

[4/17/2014 8:02:29 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/17/2014 8:02:33 PM] Raymond: I still call hax

[4/17/2014 8:04:46 PM] ChrisO .: Oh

[4/17/2014 8:04:47 PM] ChrisO .: I'm self hammering

[4/17/2014 8:05:01 PM] Raymond: Cutting the day short, eh? Go for it

[4/17/2014 8:05:39 PM] Raymond: lol

[4/17/2014 8:05:42 PM] ChrisO .: There

[4/17/2014 8:05:44 PM] ChrisO .: your PR

[4/17/2014 8:05:45 PM] ChrisO .: is no longer an issue

[4/17/2014 8:05:57 PM] Raymond: Unless BBM decides it'd be funny to target me again. xD

[4/17/2014 8:06:05 PM] Raymond: But thanks. xD

[4/17/2014 8:06:10 PM] ChrisO .: NP

[4/17/2014 8:06:11 PM] ChrisO .: I live

[4/17/2014 8:06:13 PM] ChrisO .: TO SERVE

[4/17/2014 8:06:28 PM] Raymond: Well, in this case, you technically DIE to serve. :V

[4/17/2014 8:06:44 PM] ChrisO .: yea

[4/17/2014 8:06:46 PM] ChrisO .: inb4

[4/17/2014 8:06:48 PM] ChrisO .: people say

[4/17/2014 8:06:49 PM] ChrisO .: You and I

[4/17/2014 8:06:50 PM] ChrisO .: are scumbuddies

[4/17/2014 8:06:54 PM] ChrisO .: pushing a quickhammer

[4/17/2014 8:06:56 PM] ChrisO .: to endphase early

[4/17/2014 8:07:01 PM] ChrisO .: Prims can I continue to talk?

[4/17/2014 8:07:05 PM] ChrisO .: in here I mean?

[4/17/2014 8:08:41 PM] Raymond: Well, be things how they are, I need to go sleep

I'll think of what to do when I wake up I guess

Good night, guys~

[4/17/2014 8:08:48 PM] ChrisO .: Alright

[4/17/2014 8:08:51 PM] ChrisO .: G'night

[4/17/2014 8:08:51 PM] ChrisO .: and

[4/17/2014 8:08:53 PM] ChrisO .: Good luck

[4/17/2014 8:08:53 PM] ChrisO .: tomorrow

[4/17/2014 8:13:02 PM] Prims: [Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 PM] ChrisO .:

<<< Prims can I continue to talk?

in here I mean?

you can talk but you can't give advice or strategize

[4/17/2014 8:15:31 PM] ChrisO .: mmk

[4/17/2014 8:20:56 PM] Manix: rip elie

[4/17/2014 8:22:02 PM] ChrisO .: I tried

[4/17/2014 8:22:03 PM] ChrisO .: I lived

[4/17/2014 8:22:05 PM] ChrisO .: I gay'd

[4/17/2014 8:22:08 PM] ChrisO .: I died

[4/17/2014 8:22:09 PM] Manix: gay

[4/18/2014 2:50:40 AM] Vhaltz: lmao

[spoiler=Night 4] [4/18/2014 2:51:14 AM] Vhaltz: [Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:34 PM] Prims:

<<< kaoz rabu rabu

words spread fast around here it seems :V

[4/18/2014 2:51:28 AM] Vhaltz: losing bets sucks

[4/18/2014 3:02:47 AM] Prims: no i saw the post before you edited it out

[4/18/2014 3:06:27 AM] Vhaltz: what post

[4/18/2014 3:06:32 AM] Vhaltz: that was on skype

[4/18/2014 3:06:52 AM] Prims: im p sure it was in a thread once too

[4/18/2014 3:06:55 AM] Prims: IDR exactly when

[4/18/2014 3:07:17 AM] Prims: I know I later quoted one of your posts and edited it in because you were complaining about Mitsuki doing stuff with your account

[4/18/2014 3:07:20 AM] Prims: in the same post

[4/18/2014 3:08:05 AM] Vhaltz: I'm so confused right now

[4/18/2014 3:08:21 AM] Vhaltz: I'm not, I've never posted on SF with Vhaltz's account

[4/18/2014 3:08:23 AM] Vhaltz: it was on Skype

[4/18/2014 3:08:28 AM] Vhaltz: and he wrote it himself

[4/18/2014 3:09:09 AM] Prims: weird

[4/18/2014 3:09:26 AM] Prims: im not sure how i'd know about it then since i dont think i had vhaltz on skype until this game

[4/18/2014 3:09:35 AM] Prims: maybe he did it himself...

[4/18/2014 3:09:52 AM] Prims: but there was a post where he literally said "Kaoz rabu rabu" im p sure

[4/18/2014 3:10:27 AM] Vhaltz: you can't see this but I'm staring at Mitsuki waiting for her to confess

[4/18/2014 3:10:37 AM] Vhaltz: except apparently she hasn't done it?

[4/18/2014 3:10:42 AM] Vhaltz: what

[4/18/2014 3:10:44 AM] Prims: i also recall you editing it out so you would've seen it

[4/18/2014 3:10:44 AM] Manix: lol

[4/18/2014 3:10:48 AM] Prims: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=35097&page=26#entry2950748 Here is the post where I referenced it

[4/18/2014 3:10:53 AM] Prims: im very confused right now. pls stop gaslighting

[4/18/2014 3:11:15 AM] Prims: oh, it wasn't edited in because you complained about her editing the post

[4/18/2014 3:11:20 AM] Prims: i know it was in reference to something that happened though

[4/18/2014 3:11:21 AM] Vhaltz: lmao

[4/18/2014 3:11:29 AM] Vhaltz: that was Mitsuki alright

[4/18/2014 3:11:47 AM] Vhaltz: she just doesn't remember because it was long ago I guess

[4/18/2014 3:12:11 AM] Vhaltz: she's having an existential crisis atm because she doesn't recall this

[4/18/2014 3:12:12 AM] Prims: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=45790&view=findpost&p=2919171

[4/18/2014 3:12:14 AM] Prims: im p sure it was here

[4/18/2014 3:12:52 AM] Prims: also you two are cute lol.

[4/18/2014 3:13:12 AM] Vhaltz: we were just really confused because I lost a bet wrt guessing Skypal's alignment in an MotK game just recently

[4/18/2014 3:13:23 AM] Vhaltz: and I had to say the exact same thing to Kaoz

[4/18/2014 3:13:33 AM] Vhaltz: to see how he reacted

[4/18/2014 3:13:45 AM] Vhaltz: he wrote like an ">_>" emote and nothing else

[4/18/2014 3:13:54 AM] Vhaltz: yes, they're very cute (heart)

[4/18/2014 3:14:25 AM] Manix: let's play "when is vhaltz typing/when is mitsuki typing"

[4/18/2014 3:14:32 AM] Prims: lol kaoz

[4/18/2014 3:14:41 AM] Vhaltz: if it's nonsense, it's by me

[4/18/2014 3:14:52 AM] Manix: that doesn't help

[4/18/2014 3:15:05 AM] Vhaltz: that's pretty much exactly why she wrote that

[4/18/2014 3:15:13 AM] Vhaltz: without saying it was her typing it

[4/18/2014 3:15:40 AM] Vhaltz: man Raymond is gonna be so confused when he logs back in

[4/18/2014 3:16:02 AM] Prims: also lol @ mancer getting hammered in that game before s/he could even post

[4/18/2014 3:16:05 AM] Prims: i wish blitz didnt flake ):

[4/18/2014 3:17:38 AM] Manix: technically that sub never happened

[4/18/2014 3:17:45 AM] Manix: technically.

[4/18/2014 3:19:48 AM] Prims: i should probably feel bad bc either i made an innocent girl leave the site by being an ass or got mancer to ragequit by outing them

[4/18/2014 3:19:49 AM] Prims: oh well

[4/18/2014 3:20:04 AM] Prims: (it was totally mancer, though.)

[4/18/2014 3:20:36 AM] Manix: eh

[4/18/2014 3:21:06 AM] Vhaltz: what game is this

[4/18/2014 3:21:15 AM] Prims: pony?

[4/18/2014 3:21:30 AM] Prims: the "prims is a jerk to fleur" stuff didnt happen in a game

[4/18/2014 3:21:46 AM] Manix: it just happened during a game

[4/18/2014 3:22:19 AM] Prims: but tl;dr Fleur was very likely an alt of an old player (had same typing style, playing style, personality, was from the same country, made the same spelling mistakes, liked the same games)

[4/18/2014 3:22:30 AM] Prims: i badgered her about it and she got annoyed

[4/18/2014 3:23:51 AM] Vhaltz: how do you even remember so much personal info on an old player

[4/18/2014 3:25:33 AM] Manix: magical powers of "profile checking"

[4/18/2014 3:25:37 AM] Manix: great tool imo

[4/18/2014 3:26:09 AM] Manix: and also being bored

[4/18/2014 3:30:13 AM] Vhaltz: [Friday, April 18, 2014 3:25 AM] Manix:

<<< magical powers of "profile checking"fuckin sorcery

[4/18/2014 3:53:31 AM] Prims: also I have a very arbitrary memory in general which can pull out facts and make connections randomly

[4/18/2014 3:53:41 AM] Prims: it's why I'm so good at anon player guesses (that and research as im actually interested in figuring identities out)

[4/18/2014 5:57:59 AM] ChrisO .: Fleur de Gracey was Mancer?

[4/18/2014 5:58:11 AM] Manix: that's the theory, yeah

[4/18/2014 5:58:28 AM] Manix: i'm pretty sure it was mentioned in threads at the time...

[4/18/2014 6:01:29 AM] ChrisO .: i thought

[4/18/2014 6:01:31 AM] ChrisO .: i brought it up first

[4/18/2014 6:01:42 AM] ChrisO .: when we were talking about who Fleur might have been

[4/18/2014 6:01:58 AM] ChrisO .: i rememmebr saying something like "Maybe mancer just forgot their password and made a new account"

[4/18/2014 6:02:18 AM] Manix: prims basically speculated it from D1 of EO2

[4/18/2014 6:03:17 AM] Manix: also that wouldn't hold bc mancer logged in some time in feburary from memory

[4/18/2014 6:03:31 AM] Manix: #conspiracy

[4/18/2014 6:07:59 AM] Prims: shortly before fleur regged, actually.

[4/18/2014 6:08:17 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/18/2014 6:08:22 AM] ChrisO .: maybe fluer

[4/18/2014 6:08:24 AM] Manix: Makes You Wonder

[4/18/2014 6:08:24 AM] ChrisO .: was Subieko

[4/18/2014 6:08:45 AM] Vhaltz: I'm Fleur

[4/18/2014 6:08:53 AM] Manix: i think subi just fite flaked

[4/18/2014 6:08:55 AM] Manix: rip subi

[4/18/2014 6:09:41 AM] Manix: *site

[4/18/2014 6:09:44 AM] Manix: fuck typing

[4/18/2014 6:09:58 AM] ChrisO .: man

[4/18/2014 6:10:26 AM] ChrisO .: she did well

[4/18/2014 6:10:30 AM] ChrisO .: from what i recall

[4/18/2014 6:10:31 AM] ChrisO .: in her one game

[4/18/2014 6:10:36 AM] ChrisO .: SITE ME MANIX

[4/18/2014 6:10:39 AM] Manix: two games

[4/18/2014 6:10:43 AM] Prims: Subi wasn't from singapore was she?

[4/18/2014 6:10:48 AM] Prims: plus fleur played nothing like her

[4/18/2014 6:10:51 AM] Manix: idr

[4/18/2014 6:11:03 AM] Manix: fleur definitely played like mancer

[4/18/2014 6:11:14 AM] Manix: i have a role pm which could also indicate as such

[4/18/2014 6:12:38 AM] Manix: prims do you remember how mancer used grammar in regards to mylo/lylo

[4/18/2014 6:12:49 AM] Prims: nope

[4/18/2014 6:12:55 AM] ChrisO .: semantics

[4/18/2014 6:12:56 AM] Prims: i know fleur and mancer both typoed italicized the same way tho

[4/18/2014 6:12:56 AM] ChrisO .: totally

[4/18/2014 6:13:01 AM] Manix: "Possibly a 4-player-scum-team since 3 mislynches would lead to MyLo without a third party or 2 mislynch to MyLo/LyLo with a third party."

[4/18/2014 6:13:07 AM] Manix: something to think on

[4/18/2014 6:13:07 AM] Prims: oh did mancer do that too

[4/18/2014 6:13:08 AM] Prims: lol.

[4/18/2014 6:13:16 AM] Prims: You can't ignore the facts atheists

[4/18/2014 6:13:43 AM] Prims: I wish they had just been upfront about who they are. if theyre mtf or something i understand a bit more and feel kind of bad but yeah...

[4/18/2014 6:13:44 AM] Vhaltz: you guys put Mitsuki's gossiping to shame

[4/18/2014 6:13:53 AM] Prims: but id be very surprised if they werent mancer basically

[4/18/2014 6:14:00 AM | Edited 6:14:03 AM] Prims: this isnt gossip its a straight up conspiracy theory

[4/18/2014 6:14:02 AM] Manix: vhaltz you have no idea

[4/18/2014 6:14:31 AM] Vhaltz: ok yeah I'll take it as conspiracy theory

[4/18/2014 6:15:30 AM] Manix: "Hi, I'm sorry, but before I can post any further, I need to mention that I'm bothered by Sangyul saying "fuck" a lot.

I need to know if it's normal or if she's getting agitated."

"Alright. For relationships sake though, I might try to avoid her as I do not want things to get ugly.

I feel that she is either misrepresenting my point on purpose or not understanding what I posted though but defending myself could tip her off slightly so I'm now fretting over whether or not I should reply her."

[4/18/2014 6:15:42 AM] Prims: http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Old_Maid lmao manix i just saw this EM role which owns

[4/18/2014 6:15:47 AM] Prims: although i guess you quit em

[4/18/2014 6:15:50 AM] Manix: old maid sux

[4/18/2014 6:15:51 AM] Prims: i dunno if you still sandbox

[4/18/2014 6:15:59 AM] Prims: it seems hilariously bad from a play pov

[4/18/2014 6:16:02 AM] Manix: i was around when it was introduced

[4/18/2014 6:16:04 AM] Prims: but fun in the context of a casual game

[4/18/2014 6:16:12 AM] Prims: not something that would work in forumafia though obviously

[4/18/2014 6:16:27 AM] Vhaltz: 3

[4/18/2014 6:16:32 AM] Vhaltz: no wincon ITP is OP

[4/18/2014 6:17:10 AM] Prims: how many epicmafia roles are even viable in comp lol

[4/18/2014 6:17:14 AM] ChrisO .: no wincon ITPs

[4/18/2014 6:17:15 AM] Manix: also em has a random cop. who's bright fuckin idea was that

[4/18/2014 6:17:15 AM] ChrisO .: lol

[4/18/2014 6:17:27 AM] Prims: Santa is the best EM role, gonna be straight

[4/18/2014 6:17:30 AM] Manix: em comp? let me remember

[4/18/2014 6:17:41 AM] Prims: (not to appropriate your sexuality manix)

[4/18/2014 6:17:51 AM] Manix: lol

[4/18/2014 6:18:50 AM] Prims: Party Host is cool, can you lynch at night?

[4/18/2014 6:18:51 AM] Manix: most comp setups that got played a lot had shit like cop/doc/orc/miller/vt/goon/stalker/gf/hooker/lawyer

[4/18/2014 6:19:01 AM] Prims: or is it just global insomniac that shuts down scumchat

[4/18/2014 6:19:04 AM] Manix: but i think they were diversifying when i left so shrug

[4/18/2014 6:19:21 AM] Manix: party host still allows scumchat iirc

[4/18/2014 6:19:21 AM] Prims: i might consider ripping that off for a forum setup sometime

[4/18/2014 6:19:34 AM] Prims: "forces groups to have to hide their decisions from the rest of the party-goers"

[4/18/2014 6:19:46 AM] Prims: maybe im misinterpreting that

[4/18/2014 6:19:55 AM] Manix: unless it got changed, the listed description was not how it worked

[4/18/2014 6:19:55 AM] Manix: lol

[4/18/2014 6:20:01 AM] Prims: nice

[4/18/2014 6:20:19 AM] Manix: however if you wanted something that might work like that invisible man is okay i guess

[4/18/2014 6:20:28 AM] Prims: also no EM ITP will ever be worse than autocrat / mastermind

[4/18/2014 6:20:40 AM] Prims: that's like usurper except even more hitler

[4/18/2014 6:20:41 AM] Manix: *autoshit, in the words of a wise man

[4/18/2014 6:20:48 AM] Manix: (aka whispy)

[4/18/2014 6:21:26 AM] Manix: oh right i forgot comp also likes gunsmiths

[4/18/2014 6:21:37 AM] Manix: and occasionally bomb/bp

[4/18/2014 6:22:02 AM] Manix: (also cult setups are never comp rip ;-; )

[4/18/2014 6:22:17 AM] ChrisO .: cult setups are made of win

[4/18/2014 6:22:35 AM] Manix: em literally does not know how to play cult

[4/18/2014 6:22:49 AM] Manix: considering people pointfarm reverse mafia in training...

[4/18/2014 6:23:48 AM] Manix: oh god what

[4/18/2014 6:23:53 AM] Manix: uh

[4/18/2014 6:24:04 AM] Manix: i think lobbies now have their own trophies and shit

[4/18/2014 6:24:05 AM] Manix: wtf.

[4/18/2014 6:24:09 AM] ChrisO .: .........

[4/18/2014 6:24:33 AM] Manix: you know i'm glad i left.

[4/18/2014 6:24:50 AM] Manix: >arcbell owns comp lobby

[4/18/2014 6:24:51 AM] Manix: ha.

[4/18/2014 6:24:52 AM] Manix: ha.

[4/18/2014 6:25:37 AM] Manix: >arcbell is sub admin

[4/18/2014 6:25:38 AM] Manix: ok

[4/18/2014 6:25:41 AM] Manix: i think that's enough

[4/18/2014 6:25:48 AM] Prims: arcbell seemed liek a decent player from champions but lol champions

[4/18/2014 6:25:53 AM] Prims: is he a bad person or something

[4/18/2014 6:25:57 AM] Manix: he's... eh

[4/18/2014 6:26:09 AM] Manix: you saw what he did with the whole coding thing right?

[4/18/2014 6:26:18 AM] Prims: i skimmed it

[4/18/2014 6:26:47 AM] Manix: basically he proposes silly strategies that require shitloads of time to set up, just for marginal gain

[4/18/2014 6:27:35 AM] Prims: im still waiting for osmebody to host an offsite anon just so they can use a working fiddler

[4/18/2014 6:27:47 AM] Manix: i toyed with the idea

[4/18/2014 6:27:49 AM] ChrisO .: fiddler?

[4/18/2014 6:27:56 AM] Prims: Fiddler prevents somebody from reading everybody else's messages

[4/18/2014 6:28:00 AM] Prims: it wouldn't really be fun but it's interesting

[4/18/2014 6:28:02 AM] Manix: but eventually decided "fuck that it's like a silencer"

[4/18/2014 6:28:05 AM] Prims: probably still better than silencer!

[4/18/2014 6:28:15 AM] Manix: well it is better, but still

[4/18/2014 6:28:25 AM] ChrisO .: that'd be...frustrating to enforc

[4/18/2014 6:28:25 AM] ChrisO .: as a mod

[4/18/2014 6:28:27 AM] Prims: fun fact

[4/18/2014 6:28:28 AM] Prims: Anonymafia 2

[4/18/2014 6:28:30 AM] Prims: had a Town Disguiser

[4/18/2014 6:28:52 AM] Manix: elie: that's why it's offsite

[4/18/2014 6:29:02 AM] Prims: im never hosting that though

[4/18/2014 6:29:02 AM] Manix: you can set permission stuff so they literally cannot read the thread

[4/18/2014 6:29:20 AM] ChrisO .: yea but

[4/18/2014 6:29:22 AM] ChrisO .: you have to ban

[4/18/2014 6:29:23 AM] ChrisO .: Guests

[4/18/2014 6:29:28 AM] ChrisO .: from being able to read the thread to

[4/18/2014 6:29:34 AM] Manix: oh no

[4/18/2014 6:29:37 AM] ChrisO .: otherwise they could just not log in

[4/18/2014 6:31:52 AM] Manix: ok time to see what crap roles have ben added since i was last here

[4/18/2014 6:32:55 AM] Manix: >town lynch disabler (think leader but prevents any voting)

[4/18/2014 6:33:05 AM] ChrisO .: neat

[4/18/2014 6:33:14 AM] ChrisO .: princess

[4/18/2014 6:33:17 AM] ChrisO .: (or virgin, i forget)

[4/18/2014 6:33:26 AM] ChrisO .: but doesnt require death to activate power

[4/18/2014 6:33:34 AM] Manix: no it needs to die

[4/18/2014 6:34:01 AM] ChrisO .: o

[4/18/2014 6:34:22 AM] Manix: also they actually have mafia arsonist which is okay i guess

[4/18/2014 6:34:29 AM] Prims: is there a town paralyzer yet lol

[4/18/2014 6:34:51 AM] Manix: nope

[4/18/2014 6:37:55 AM] Manix: i still think 3vt/cop/agent/black spy/red spy is A Good Setup

[4/18/2014 6:38:02 AM] Manix: daystart

[4/18/2014 6:45:50 AM] Raymond: 214 posts while I was gone, are you out of your mind? xD

[4/18/2014 6:46:11 AM] Manix: and remember none of it is relevant to the game 8)

[4/18/2014 6:47:03 AM] ChrisO .: AND NONE OF IT IS ABOUT ANIMUS

[4/18/2014 6:51:27 AM] Raymond: Eugh, EpicMafia. D:

[4/18/2014 6:51:50 AM] Raymond: I was there for like a week and it had the shittiest community I'd seen in a long time

[4/18/2014 6:52:01 AM] Manix: yeah it's really bad

[4/18/2014 6:52:07 AM] Manix: and half the people cannot even mafia

[4/18/2014 6:52:15 AM] Prims: em is interesting

[4/18/2014 6:52:19 AM] Prims: ive lurked now and then but

[4/18/2014 6:52:47 AM] Prims: im a terrible liar so im just not the sort who's good at stuff like that

[4/18/2014 6:52:52 AM] Prims: id probably be abysmal at face-to-face too

[4/18/2014 6:53:17 AM] Manix: well apparently i can successfully be a spy in irl resistance so

[4/18/2014 6:53:19 AM] Prims: (i can post stuff on the fly in forumafia but i have to take time to come up with a gameplan before i can improvise, i cant do stuff like thinking of claims fast)

[4/18/2014 6:53:44 AM] Manix: saying that being a spy in resistance is basically an autowin so lol

[4/18/2014 6:53:51 AM] Raymond: I had like an 80% win rate before I quit, but the trolls and the rage are just too much

[4/18/2014 6:56:08 AM] Raymond: Then again the games I had there basically consisted entirely of:

-> Cop? Claim cop with a guilty (even if you don't actually have one!)

-> Mafia? Claim cop with a guilty

-> Anyone else? Sheep the cop claims and let the resident troll hammer

[4/18/2014 6:56:33 AM] Manix: good old classic mafia

[4/18/2014 6:56:43 AM] Manix: (slightly sarcastic)

[4/18/2014 7:00:48 AM] Prims: [Friday, April 18, 2014 6:56 AM] Raymond:

<<< -> Cop? Claim cop with a guilty (even if you don't actually have one!)i do this as vanilla town in forum mafia

[4/18/2014 7:00:50 AM] Raymond: Also I request that Elie get Town MVP for hammering two thirds of the scumteam. :V

[4/18/2014 7:00:58 AM] Prims: [Friday, April 18, 2014 6:56 AM] Raymond:

<<< -> Mafia? Claim cop with a guiltyrein does this in forum mafia

[4/18/2014 7:01:45 AM] Raymond: [Friday, April 18, 2014 7:00 AM] Prims:

<<< i do this as vanilla town in forum mafiaWeapons also used to do it. On me, primarily. :V

[Friday, April 18, 2014 7:01 AM] Prims:

<<< rein does this in forum mafiaYeah, I remember lol.

[4/18/2014 7:02:07 AM] Manix: weapons gained a new trick

[4/18/2014 7:02:14 AM] Manix: it's called quickhammering town as town

[4/18/2014 7:02:20 AM] Raymond: lol

[4/18/2014 7:02:22 AM] Manix: #stillsalty

[4/18/2014 7:14:04 AM] ChrisO .: Claim cop with a guilty

[4/18/2014 7:14:08 AM] ChrisO .: Sounds like FAYZ

[4/19/2014 7:06:07 AM] Raymond: Wait what

[4/19/2014 7:06:10 AM] Raymond: No update yet?

[4/19/2014 7:06:25 AM] Manix: i blame prims

[4/19/2014 11:37:58 AM] Raymond: R.I.P Prims

[4/19/2014 12:07:09 PM] ChrisO .: GG prims

[4/19/2014 3:19:40 PM] Vhaltz: wuts happenin

[4/19/2014 3:20:18 PM] Raymond: Prims is busy being dead

or dead being busy, alternatively

[spoiler=Day 5]

[4/19/2014 9:14:00 PM] ChrisO .: Well

[4/19/2014 9:14:14 PM] ChrisO .: Looks like this game is back in action hmmm

[4/20/2014 8:06:34 AM] Raymond: Damn it BBM

[4/20/2014 8:07:33 AM] Raymond: I don't have THAT many pictures of fancy dresses lying around! xD

[4/20/2014 8:10:32 AM] Vhaltz: Mitsuki knows a bunch

[4/20/2014 8:10:43 AM] Vhaltz: idk if we can link them over though

[4/20/2014 8:12:05 AM] Raymond: Eh, it's fine. For now. If I can get away with less than five posts. xD

[4/20/2014 9:04:21 AM] Raymond: ftr winning at this point would require an unmatched level of idiocy from the town, but I'll be satisfied if I at least make it to LYLO. :V

[4/20/2014 9:06:51 AM] ChrisO .: I think it's /possible/ for eclipse to build a lynch on j00/bbm at this point

[4/20/2014 9:06:55 AM] ChrisO .: but I dunno

[4/20/2014 9:07:05 AM] ChrisO .: you're still prob boned

[4/20/2014 9:07:08 AM] ChrisO .: sadface.jpg

[4/20/2014 9:07:12 AM] Raymond: I don't think a BBM lynch will happen

[4/20/2014 9:07:46 AM] Raymond: But if I survive today, I'll make sure to kill him as thanks for giving me the same PR twice. :V xD

[4/20/2014 9:08:10 AM] ChrisO .: :D

[4/21/2014 7:10:12 AM] Raymond: mafia sucks

[4/21/2014 7:12:24 AM] ChrisO .: are u dead yet?

[4/21/2014 7:12:45 AM] Raymond: No, they can't be bothered to hammer apparently

[4/21/2014 7:13:03 AM] ChrisO .: hmm

[4/21/2014 7:13:09 AM] ChrisO .: BBM's not modconfirmed anymore at least

[4/21/2014 7:13:12 AM] ChrisO .: i think

[4/21/2014 7:13:19 AM] Raymond: I guess

[4/21/2014 7:13:28 AM] Raymond: Not that that's of any use at this point lol

[4/21/2014 7:14:04 AM] ChrisO .: well

[4/21/2014 7:14:06 AM] ChrisO .: at least

[4/21/2014 7:14:10 AM] ChrisO .: eclipse thinks you're inno

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