Tino Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Thanks ^_^ Ah, yes, the elite debaters. They're really awesome. I think they're going to stick to FEFF and FEP though, sadly :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I can't believe I'm saying this but Tino, that was like one of the good shits you pulled. I envy you.Now if only Inui, Mekkah, Reikken, Psio and Solid were here. :( He proved you wrong, but I've yet to see how Garcia > Ross. I pointed out that the one thing that he said made him better, his speed, was the same as Ross in actuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Yeah, I already raised the white flag FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Yeah, I already raised the white flag FYI. If I know I'm right, I'm not gonna' give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 ...WTF do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 ...WTF do you mean? I MEANT to say that since I'm pretty damn sure I'm right, I'm not gonna' give up like you. ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 It's just a debate, get over it. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 It's just a debate, get over it. <_< I'm not obsessed over it. I'm just saying that I'm not gonna' give up. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 lol I'm on your side for once Ninji. Especially since this is 8, Ross won't even need to be at Lv.15 to be able to beat this game. Plus, so what if Ross will be a few Lv.'s lower, his stats all around will be much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Give up on what? What is there to not give up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Give up on what? What is there to not give up? On the debate... >.> You're not following me at all, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I hope everyone knows this is incredibly off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 On the debate... >.> You're not following me at all, are you? Then good luck on getting yourself ripped apart then. And seriously I already given up and its pretty pointless to argue since I have nothing else to rebuttal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Is Tino even on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Is Tino even on? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 He proved you wrong, but I've yet to see how Garcia > Ross. I pointed out that the one thing that he said made him better, his speed, was the same as Ross in actuality. Garcia is much better for early to mid-games, while Ross is beating him at the easiest point of the game, late-game. Besides, Garcia never goes through a period of phail; Ross does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 W/e, if you ask me I'm outta here. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Garcia is much better for early to mid-games, while Ross is beating him at the easiest point of the game, late-game. Besides, Garcia never goes through a period of phail; Ross does. Garcia is the definition of PHAIL!!! [Dozla is] Who uses Garcia instead of Ross seriously!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Garcia is much better for early to mid-games, while Ross is beating him at the easiest point of the game, late-game. Besides, Garcia never goes through a period of phail; Ross does. Garcia's period of phail is when you actually bother to level him. You'll see he lags behind other units. Let me compare a 20/20 Berserker Ross' Average stats to a 20/20 Warrior Garcia. Ross: HP: 53.9 STR: 30 SKL: 19.45 SPD: 19.1 LCK: 26.8 DEF: 17.75 RES: 11.4 Garcia: HP: 59 STR: 30 SKL: 23 SPD: 14 LCK: 17 DEF: 16.75 RES: 9.25 Garcia wins HP and Skill. Ross wins Speed, Luck, Defense, and Resistance, and they tie Strength. Ross gets a 15% Critical Bonus. Garcia gets bows. Ross and Garcia both have Fire affinities. Ross has Lute, Garcia, Gerik, Ewan, and Amelia as supports. Garcia has Ross, Dozla, Seth, Gilliam, and Niemi. My vote still goes to Ross. He bests Garcia in more stats, gets that godly 15% Critical Bonus, and Gerik as a support. What's NOT to like? Besides, Garcia's 14 Speed = PHAIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 20/20 averages mean nothing. If you look level by level, Garcia is holding a huge advantage for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) Garcia's period of phail is when you actually bother to level him. You'll see he lags behind other units. Let me compare a 20/20 Berserker Ross' Average stats to a 20/20 Warrior Garcia.Ross: HP: 53.9 STR: 30 SKL: 19.45 SPD: 19.1 LCK: 26.8 DEF: 17.75 RES: 11.4 Garcia: HP: 59 STR: 30 SKL: 23 SPD: 14 LCK: 17 DEF: 16.75 RES: 9.25 Garcia wins HP and Skill. Ross wins Speed, Luck, Defense, and Resistance, and they tie Strength. Ross gets a 15% Critical Bonus. Garcia gets bows. Ross and Garcia both have Fire affinities. Ross has Lute, Garcia, Gerik, Ewan, and Amelia as supports. Garcia has Ross, Dozla, Seth, Gilliam, and Niemi. My vote still goes to Ross. He bests Garcia in more stats, gets that godly 15% Critical Bonus, and Gerik as a support. What's NOT to like? Besides, Garcia's 14 Speed = PHAIL. EXACTLY If Tino were here he would admit defeat!! Edited September 14, 2008 by FEFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Already there are some wrongs in that huge post of fail you just did. I'm not going to even bother with that so I'm just going to let someone else do the work since I have enough debates for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) 20/20 averages mean nothing. If you look level by level, Garcia is holding a huge advantage for a long time. Ross levels up extremely easy, gaining almost a level every kill. You only need to get him to level 10 to make him become a Pirate, in which he'll already be kicking Garcia's ass. Already there are some wrongs in that huge post of fail you just did. I'm not going to even bother with that so I'm just going to let someone else do the work since I have enough debates for today. So, average stats, supports, and bonuses are wrong? Damn that IS! Edited September 14, 2008 by ChaosNinji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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