ruadath Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 (edited) This post has been somewhat inspired by FionordeQuester's recent guide to S-ranking LHM while getting Nils to level 7.S-ranking Lyn Mode alone is not a very challenging feat, regardless of the difficulty. However, achieving all of the tactician stars is a bit more difficult, due to some rather insane funds/EXP requirements for certain chapters (in particular, Chapter 2, where you can spend at most 60G worth of weapon uses and need to gain 200 EXP, which turns out to just barely be possible). This guide will aim to give a step-by-step walkthrough of how to get all 60 nice stars for Lyn Normal Mode on your ranking screen.Rules:- No RNG abuse, with the exception of Chapter 2, where it is necessary to rig every critical hit.- Before each chapter, a hard reset is done to bring the RNG back to its initial position for consistency.- All cutscenes will be skipped (Start) in order to avoid the burning of extra RNs during scenes with movement on the map. - Aim for lowest turn counts possible while meeting 5-star requirements. - All treasure obtained, all bosses killed (in other words a complete playthrough). Possibly something related to steals. My aim for this guide is for anyone who reads it to be able to achieve the same result simply by mimicking the playthrough given here, so if anything is unclear, or if you find something to be incorrect, don't hesitate to let me know! Alright then, let's get started! The save file I end up with in this run may be used in a future LNM+ENM Max Tactician Stars run, so I will keep that in the back of my mind while doing this. EDIT: Updated to include new rules! Edited August 7, 2015 by ruadath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 Prologue: There is really nothing to say here; the level is entirely scripted, so you'll always dodge Batta's second attack and crit-kill him on the counter. A HP, Str, Skl, Spd, Luck level up for Lyn is also guaranteed. Moving on... Chapter 1: I'll begin the guide at the start of turn 3, since everything is scripted before that. The game forces you to move Sain up to trade with Lyn (from the south), so I gave him the 2 use Vulnerary. Note that the game does not actually force you to use the Vulnerary; once you select "Item," you are free to cancel out of the menu without healing Sain. I did so, and then moved Sain one space east. After that, Lyn moves attacks the northern brigand from the east; she will crit-kill him on her second strike. Kent finishes the southern brigand from the east. The enemy will do nothing on their turn. Move Lyn west of the forest near the boss, then bring Sain below her to rescue her. Kent moves east of Sain and take/drops her into the river; I bet you've never used Lords' ability to cross rivers this early in your playthrough before! The enemy brigand attacks Lyn, who dodges and then doubles him. On the next turn, Lyn attacks the boss for the following nice level. Sain finishes the weakened brigand, and then we let Zugu kill himself on Lyn on the enemy phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 First of all, remember to reset before the start of each chapter! Chapter 2: Turn 1: The annoying tutorial force you to waste a turn visiting the villages on the south part of the map. Sain moves one east after visiting his, and Kent one NE. Turn 2: Burn 68 RNs. There are various ways to do this, but if you are playing on a console, the safest way is probably to select Lyn, move the cursor 2E, 2N, 1W, and then 2S. The game will burn an RN to decide whether to draw the arrow going up or right first, and you can repeat this process 68 times (counting carefully) to burn the RNs. Once that is done, select Sain and move him west of the approaching bandit, being careful not to burn additional RNs by making sure not to move through forests. Attack him with the Iron Lance to get a crit kill. Move Lyn and Kent up like so Turn 3: Have Sain strike the wall with his Iron Lance, then burn 5 RNs (here this can be done by selecting Lyn and moving 2N, 1E, 1S). Have Kent attack the approaching bandit with his Iron Sword from the north for a crit kill. Lyn moves forward. Burn 48 RNs with Lyn, then move her onto the forest north of Kent. On the enemy turn, the bandit will attack Kent and hit him, but Kent will counter with a critical. He'll level up too. Not an amazing level up, but there is nothing we can do about it, since we're going for minimal RN abuse here and we need the critical. Turn 4: Sain breaks the wall, Lyn moves 1NE of the space where the wall was. Kent burns 54 RNs then waits. On the enemy turn, the bandit inside the walls will attack Sain, miss, and get crit-killed. Turn 5: Burn 61 RNs, then have Sain crit-kill Glass with his Iron Lance. He gets a better level up than Kent, too, because the RNG gods love Sain (something you'll come to notice throughout this playthrough) Lyn seizes the throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 I've decided to tack on a new rule that forces me to aim for the lowest turn counts possible (without RNG rigging). This should force me to accept certain mediocre level ups in favor of finishing a map quickly, which will make this playthrough a bit more interesting (instead of turning Sain, Kent, and Florina into ORKO machines that slaughter everything in their path. That will probably still happen with Sain eventually though) Chapter 3 Turn 1: The tutorial forces you to have Lyn visit the village, and then have Wil and Florina team up to kill the mercenary. Sain attacks the archer from the east (with his sword; he'll miss the second hit if he uses the lance) Kent moves 1 SW of Sain. On the enemy turn, an archer will attack Sain for practically no damage. Turn 2: Florina visits the village for 2000G, then returns to the spot 1N of where she started. Sain kills the archer on the forest (this time with the Iron Lance), and Kent moves onto the forest and attacks the bandit with his Iron Sword. Lyn and Wil move forward. On the enemy phase, the bandit enters a second round of combat with Kent, hitting this time, but dies on Kent's counterattack. A mercenary also attacks Kent, and another one attacks Florina. Turn 3: Kent finishes the merc with his Iron Lance, and Sain rides through the forest and as close to the bandit as he can, equipping his Iron Sword. Wil attacks the bandit from the other side of the wall, Lyn moves east of him, and Florina moves onto the cross of the walls so that no enemies can attack her. On the enemy turn, the bandit attacks Sain an gets killed. Turn 4: Sain attacks Migal (Iron Sword), Kent attacks the bandit from the east for a level, and Florina finishes him from above with a critical from the forest. On the enemy turn, Migal suicides on Sain, and the merc dies attacking Florina. They both level up No luck for Sain (pun intended) here, but... he's already got two Str/Spd procs, so he's fine, and honestly, if it takes him a bit longer to become an ORKO machine, that's fine since it prevents him from hogging EXP for a bit longer And with all the enemies routed, that ends the chapter. Typical Florina level (minus Res growth)... kind of wish she got Str here, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 Chapter 4 This chapter has an abundance of EXP, way more than the 450 required for 5-starring this chapter. Therefore, I will attempt to minimize EXP gain on this chapter while maximizing good levels, so my strategy might appear a little but strange. Turn 1: Lyn's move is forced. Florina trades to get Sain's Iron Lance, then moves north of Lyn. Wil moves straight west, Kent 2 south, and Sain to the east of him, trading to get back the Iron Lance. Make sure both the cavs have swords equipped. A few attacks happen on the enemy turn, but nothing particularly important. Turn 2: Lyn talks to Dorcas, Dorcas Hand Axe crits his friend from inside the fort. Florina moves outside the fort and as far north as she can go. Wil, Sain and Kent all kill whoever attacked them on the last enemy phase (in that order). A bandit attacks Kent and a merc attacks Sain on the enemy phase. Turn 3: Kent attacks the bandit in front of him, reducing him to 1 HP. Sain kills the merc (still Iron Sword) for a level. Sain becoming an unstoppable monster is a foregone conclusion of FE7. Wil and Dorcas run toward Natalie, Florina sits on the forest below the merc (equips Iron Lance, but doesn't attack). Lyn moves 1 east, 3 south (stopping a space before the edge of her movement range). The 1 HP bandit dies on Kent, the merc attacks Florina, a pair of bandits attack Kent and Sain, the latter getting doubled and killed. An archer hits Lyn. Turn 4: Lyn moves east of the the archer and doubles (kills) him with the Mani Katti. Florina attacks the full health merc with her Iron Lance. Kent finishes off the bandit who attacked him last turn. Finally, a solid level for Kent. He needed that. Wil and Dorcas move behind Natalie, Sain rescues Kent and moves toward her as well. Both mercs die on Florina on the enemy phase. Turn 5: Lyn moves onto the forest near her, Florina moves 2W and 5S, Sain moves behind Natalie as well and drops Kent, and Wil moves 2 south of Natalie blocking the entrance. Turn ends On the enemy phase, a bandit will attack Wil. If you've done everything correctly so far, he will miss. Turn 6: Florina moves up 2 spaces and attacks the merc who followed her. Lyn attacks Carjiga from the north, crit-killing him with the Mani Katti. Defense for Lyn is always good. End turn. The injured merc attacks Florina again, getting killed and giving her a level up. Now that's the kind of Florina level I want! The other merc attacks Florina as well, the bandit attacks Wil (hits him this time), and a bandit in the south attacks and gets killed by Lyn. Another great level for Lyn! She also hits C rank in swords. Turn 7: We've already exceeded the EXP requirement by ~60 EXP, so you can just have Florina and Lyn run away to a spot where they won't be attacked (keep Lyn where she is, fly Florina directly south), and keep everyone else where they are. Wil should be the only one who gets attacked on the EP and that finishes the chapter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 (edited) Chapter 5 Turn 1: You are forced to have Lyn recruit Serra, then have Serra heal Erk, and then have Erk finish the archer (you should do so from the spot where he starts). Wil trades with Sain and grabs both the Vulneraries. Kent doubles the nearby brigand from the south, Sain moves east onto the forest and equips the Iron Lance. Florina rescues Lyn and moves directly east. On the enemy turn, the bandit attacks Kent and dies, the merc attacks Sain, and a merc doubles Florina (slowed by carrying Lyn and the Iron Lance). Turn 2: Serra and Erk move south and out of the way. Florina drops Lyn onto the forest north of Bug, then moves onto the forest 2 west of Lyn. Kent moves directly east, Sain trade equips Kent with an Iron Lance and hands off the extra Vulnerary to him as well, and then stays south of Kent. On the enemy phase, Bug attacks and gets crit killed by MK!Lyn. Both the bandit and the Merc attack Kent and die. Lyn and Kent are close to leveling, but don't quite make it. The southern merc attacks Florina and dies, leaving just the archer, who attacks Lyn and misses. Turn 3: Sain heads to the armory and buys two Javelins. Florina attacks the archer from the west with the Slim Lance (done for RNG purposes, because she doubles but doesn't kill him). Then Lyn finishes him off from the south for another level. An extremely impressive level for Lyn; her low HP is more than made up for by her two growths in Def and one in Res. And that clears the level! Pretty quick, wouldn't you say? Edited August 8, 2015 by ruadath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 Chapter 6 In order to seed the RNG to a more convenient starting location, wait until the map animation where the party rides into Araphen is complete before skipping all of the cutscenes. Turn 1: The tutorial forces you to complete the sensible actions of recruiting Matthew (with Lyn), opening the door, and having Rath sit on the first trigger. Erk attacks the southermost merc from directly above him (we want him to get hit by the counter). Kent attacks the other mercenary from the east. Not too shabby from Kent. Wil finishes off the same merc from the forest above Kent. Serra visits the village for a Door Key, Dorcas moves 2E 3N, Florina moves east of Dorcas, and Sain goes to the southern spot of the entrance to the castle (the only purple square he can move to) The remaining merc attacks Erk and dies on the enemy phase. Turn 2: Matthew opens the chest for the Angelic Robe. Serra trades Kent the Door Key, then heals him (EXP is critical here since we are going to rush the chapter and finish it a turn early). Wil doubles the soldier for a nice level. Kent opens the door (keeps the Iron Lance equipped). Florina rescues Matthew from the north, Sain moves east of her, trading one of his Javelins for the Iron Lance (which he equips), takes and drops Matthew east, and then moves next to the enemy soldier. Lyn moves 2S 3E, Rath rescues her and then moves to the northern spot of the castle entrance (one space before the end of his movement range). Dorcas moves south of Rath, takes Lyn, and drops her east. End turn. On the enemy phase the two soldiers attack Kent and Sain respectively, and get killed. Turn 3: Wil steps on the second trigger, Serra heals Erk. Sain opens the door (he got a door key from killing the soldier that attacked him last turn), the moves to the square 1 SE of the enemy archer. Matthew opens the chest for an Armorslayer. Florina trades Sain for the Iron Lance, then attacks the enemy archer with it. Dorcas finishes the archer off. At this point, I burned 6 RNs and then had Lyn crit kill the boss. If you are unhappy with this, note that a completely equivalent strategy without the RN burns, with the same moves (just in a different order) and the same level ups for Kent and Wil can be obtained by skipping the cutscenes in the middle of a particular map animation. However, you only have ~10 or so frames to do that, so I just detailed this equivalent strategy instead. Rath then steps on the last trigger to end the chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 8, 2015 Author Share Posted August 8, 2015 Chapter 7 Preparations Bench Rath and Erk, make sure Sain and Florina have Javelins and Iron Lances. Kent and Matthew should have a spare inventory space (or two). Deploy people as follows Turn 1: The game forces you to have Lucius attack, followed by Nils playing for him. Wil moves straight east and attacks the archer, and Matthew finishes him from below. Dorcas kills the Shaman from above, Lucius moves 3E 1N, Serra heals him from above, and Lyn moves east of her. Kent moves one NW of Wil. Make sure Sain and Florina both have Javelins equipped, then move Sain next to Florina, who rescues him and moves 6 south (1 before the end of her movement range). Enemy Turn 1: The shaman attacks Florina, who counters with her Javelin. Turn 2: Wil moves 2 east and attacks the bandit, then Matthew finishes him from below. Kent moves east of Matthew and trade-equips the Iron Lance that Matthew got from killing the bandit. Serra heals Wil and Nils plays for someone. I had Lyn buy a heal staff; I probably won't need it, but better safe than sorry. Florina moves 2 east and drops Sain south onto the forest, then flies around to the west of the snag (out of the range of the enemy Shaman). Enemy Turn 2: Heintz attacks Sain and gets Javelin'd. A merc attack Kent and gets hurt. The injured shaman attacks Sain and dodges one of Sain's Javelin counterattacks. Turn 3: Burn an RN, then Florina kills the shaman with her Iron Lance. Matthew moves south and attacks the merc, and Wil finishes him from west of Matthew. Serra moves 2 east and heals someone, Kent visits the village for Pure Water, and Nils plays for someone. Sain kills Heintz with his Iron Lance to finish the chapter. Nothing exceptional, but we'll take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 A brief note since I haven't posted here in a while: I'll probably be redoing this from Chapter 4 onward to give a few more levels to Sain. In particular, I'd like his strength to be high enough (at 13) that he can break down the wall in 7x in one hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainBuckets Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hello! I had a little trouble on chapter 1. The South bandit refuses to move to the correct area. Instead of going to the right part of the upside down cross forest, he goes to the bottom. I had Kent move to where the picture showed and he killed him on the enemy phase. Lyn got an even better level, IIRC, so I think it all worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruadath Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 (edited) Sorry for the late reply. This guide is really really outdated, and tbh needs a complete reworking before anyone should try to use it seriously. The Chapter 1 issue is due (I think) to an emulator/console difference in the way RNG is burned by that bandit, so thanks for pointing that out! If possible, it would be great if you could post a couple of screenshots (the different location of the bandit and the new level) so I can mark that in a potential future guide. Edited March 5, 2017 by ruadath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanes Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 So is this discontinued? Shame, I used the turns here as a basis for my run and then just did it on my own but I wanted to see if my 10 turn clear of Chapter 10 was good, bad or average either way I got all 5 stars except for funds, damn it why did I use both of the statboosters? Then it would have been near perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Summons Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 11/19/2018 at 10:36 PM, This boi uses Nino said: So is this discontinued? Shame, I used the turns here as a basis for my run and then just did it on my own but I wanted to see if my 10 turn clear of Chapter 10 was good, bad or average either way I got all 5 stars except for funds, damn it why did I use both of the statboosters? Then it would have been near perfect. Yeah, will this thread continue? I was having some trouble in chapter 2. Can't quite get the crit even after I burn 68 rns. Tried again multiple times with hard resets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Last post was two years ago, and it says "this guide is outdated". I'm locking this topic, and will only unlock it at @ruadath's request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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