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Lex is amazing for Tinny, and Arthur the Vantage, Wrath, and Paragon are amazing. Also Tinny gains pursuit upon promotion, and you can pass down the pursuit ring to Arthur. Its amazing.

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Actually, Azel is at least better for Tiltyu. Tinny and Arthur inherit good stats. Also, pursuit.

Levin is the best for Arthur without a doubt. It's not even close. Levin!Arthur might even be the best unit in the game.

It's just that, you know, there's only one Levin in the game.

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Levin>Lex>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Azel=Claude+Pursuit ring in most cases.

Corple doesn't generally care. Sety is unfuckable. Therefore the only mage worth considering the dad of is Arthur/Tiltyu.

and it's usually Levin or Lex. (Let's be honest. Holsety/wrath hits are OHKO/ORKOing 98% of everything you meet.)

Azel's kinda bad for a mage dad imo. I'd rather put him with Ayra or Lachesis just for magic swords+growth lol.

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I think people are selling Azel short. He offers decent magic and speed growths, as well as pursuit. Sure he doesn't give Holsety or the rather unreliable Ambush/Wrath combo, but the children end up very usable. The only issue is that nobody really wants to specialise in fire magic, but Elwind gets the job done.

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I think people are selling Azel short. He offers decent magic and speed growths, as well as pursuit. Sure he doesn't give Holsety or the rather unreliable Ambush/Wrath combo, but the children end up very usable. The only issue is that nobody really wants to specialise in fire magic, but Elwind gets the job done.

Definitely this. Levin is obviously the best dad for all of the male magic users because Holstey from join time is extremely broken, but in terms of the female mages in gen 2, Nanna, Tinny, and Lana all appreciate the assets that Azel provides: pursuit, a 35% percent magic growth for female children (30% percent for minor Fala blood and 5% for half of his base growth) and the 25% speed growth he gives female children too.

The reason why Lex!Tinny is so beloved is because of the awesome elite skill, which helps get her past her slow start due to her low level, but Azel!Tinny is a much greater asset past the mid-game where Lex!Tinny begins to have trouble ORKOing generics and Azel!Tinny can expect to reach 30 magic basically at promotion.

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I always love putting Sety in the middle of an army with Holsety and watching him annihilate everything, but if we're looking at this from a more objective standpoint, it is pretty hard to go wrong with Sety. Though I do think people in this thread are kind of underestimating Azel's goodness as a father for Arthur and Tinny, I do think Sety would probably be better.

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Generally, Levin, Azel and Lex make pretty good dads for the magic users due to reasons people said.

Although I will still remember the time I had Ardan as Sety's dad where he then proceeded to cap str and def, and still managed to do well with Lightning lol.

Also a side note, Levin or Azel fathered Patty makes her magic sword use actually fairly good.

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Lex isn't so great after the first couple of chapters. Even with crits, Arthur is unable to kill enemies in the later chapters.

What he said. Lex!Arthur was excellent for a couple of chapters and then... not very good. I've gotten got more mileage out of Finn!Arthur and the Miracle/Wrath combo thanks to Pursuit.

Does anyone support Dew as a father for magic kids?

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Does anyone support Dew as a father for magic kids?

He doesn't really much to any of he magic kids; yeah he had the highest magic growth of any of they physical fathers, but it's still a measly 10%, so it's not like he's a world beater in that regard.

He's a decent father for Corple because all around decent growths and bargain is much appreciated to let Corple spam staves. And I suppose he won't screw over Sety because Sety can't be screwed up. Arthur and Tinny either need some sort of gimmick to abuse wrath, Finn or Lex, or some magical father with offensive skills (Levin or Azel or Claude with the pursuit ring). I suppose Lana wouldn't hate Dew as a dad, but if you're going to screw Lester up, you might as well breed her with Azel for high magic growths and pursuit or Claude to give her a staves from the beginning. And Nanna would like pursuit, granted Dew isn't the worst for her either. I've actually done the last one, mostly for that racy conversation between Dew and Lachesis.

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^On my first playthrough, I ended up with Dew/Aideen, and Lana was a good staffbot. She had 25 magic, only two less then the resident Sety. I 100% approve Levin/Fury, it makes Sety great, simple as. The other magic users were underwhelming. I was an idiot, did Claude/Tiltyu, and her kids were bad, simple as. Arthur was a benchwarmer, and I ended up letting Tinny die because I was sick of resetting in Chapter 9. Nanna was a mounted Beowulf/Lachesis staffbot, with awful magic. (6 mag, come back when you can beat base Ethlin at level 30.) Corple is Corple and that's that, ie not very good. Having Alec as a dad wouldn't help.

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AideenXfin works out well, as lana caps magic on average due to her +5 convo with fin in chapter 7. Lester ends up bad until you get the hero bow in chapter 8 due to lack of inheritance, though. Lex!arthur actualy works better with a hero sword than with magic, but i still liked him less then azel!arthur, and there is a LOT less competition for tomes then for the hero sword. Levin!tinny is not that good at first, but her +5 magic convo with levin, the tornado tome, and the continue and critical skills with cap-rammed speed and skill, make her very good latter.

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I still believe Tinny Azel is one of the best, but I certainly can't deny Tiltyu lex. That's basically unstoppable in the beginning. However, Azel!Arthur is capable of good skill and magic. Meaning he'll almost never miss, and he'll deal strong blows.

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Does anyone support Dew as a father for magic kids?

Lack of pursuit hurts and there's a lot of competition for the ring too, but looking back and forth between him and Finn for Edin, Dew has a slight advantage when it comes to growths. As long as Lester doesn't mind being hit and run until he can grab the hero bow he'll get about the same usage. Lana is seemingly fine and debt free for the rest of her life. I'll get back to this one, this is on my current run.*

If we're talking Sylvia, Dew as a husband isn't all that useful since he can give money freely and the only thing she/Leen wants is the Leg+Knight combo. Corple comes in too late to make much use of Bargain and lol Sol. But if the two have nothing better to do, it's a pretty good pairing.

no one mentioned Claude/Fury, this is an outrage

*Lester wants the pursuit ring so bad. He'll absolutely take advantage of Dew's speed growths to make it worth it too.

Considering he has Bargain, it's not that steep of a purchase to make.

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AideenXfin works out well, as lana caps magic on average due to her +5 convo with fin in chapter 7. Lester ends up bad until you get the hero bow in chapter 8 due to lack of inheritance, though. Lex!arthur actualy works better with a hero sword than with magic, but i still liked him less then azel!arthur, and there is a LOT less competition for tomes then for the hero sword. Levin!tinny is not that good at first, but her +5 magic convo with levin, the tornado tome, and the continue and critical skills with cap-rammed speed and skill, make her very good latter.

Finn!Lana caps magic super-quick but her RES is pretty bad, so you can't use her to bait siege tome users or anything like that. Finn!Lester is actually pretty darn good and can get by all right without the Hero Bow for two chapters; I preferred him over Midayle!Lester just for being able to dodge and survive. Lex!Arthur and Finn!Arthur both wreck shit with the hero sword; my last Lex!Arthur had MGC so bad the sword was his primary weapon.

One of these days I will breed a Horsety boy.

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We havn't really discussed who is the best father for sety other then levin yet. I prefer claude myself, due to sety almost caping magic (on average, he is less than a full point shy), and fee making a good mounted psychic and magic sword user. Her strength is not the best, but immediate brave lance access helps a ton. I will admit that i haven't tried any other Claude pairings besides corple and sety, because i don't want to see the valk staff go unused, even if it is not that good.

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We havn't really discussed who is the best father for sety,

It's because Sety is basically unscrewable,as long as he exists, he's pretty much a monster (though Hawk isn't bad either). Even with physical fathers, Sety will contribute a ton to your team just with his above average skills (pursuit and continue no matter who his Daddy is, too good) and his high base stats. Claude!Sety is mostly good because of the 'a' rank staves (really good fortitude spammer) and his high resistance allows him to navigate through damn sleep staff bishops. Noish!Sety is frightening because of that awesome skill set (pursuit, continue, charge, and critical WOW!) and Lex/Ardan!Sety has a great defense growth and the quiet useful vantage, which always helps mages.

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Levin!Arthur is so powerful that it doesn't even matter what happens with Tinny [Tinny is kind of a lost cause in general but Levin!Tinny is still one of the better ones anyway].

I see people totally sleep on Lex!Tinny though. WrathxAmbush hax with a magic sword is scary ... if you ever actually bother training and promoting her ... but that's where Elite comes into play and Lex!Arthur is too much fun to not try out at least once. I can only recommend trying the TiltyuxLex pairing. For extra points of hilarity you can also do ArdanxTiltyu though it won't give the kids Elite.

The only reason to not pair up Levin and Tiltyu is because you wanna try out other pairings with Levin but non of them are nearly as good as LevinxTiltyu exceot LevinxFury ... but Fury has a lot of good pairings [i typically go with FuryxNoish and have either Dew or Holyn marry Ayra].

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Actually, Azel is at least better for Tiltyu. Tinny and Arthur inherit good stats. Also, pursuit.

Not to mention Tiltyu and Azel look cute together. My Tinny always comes out incredibly powerful from this not to mention Arthur is a speed demon.

Levin is great for Sety as he can defeat the dragon knights of Thracia by himself with Holsety. Besides he deserves it just for being awesome.

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Not to mention Tiltyu and Azel look cute together. My Tinny always comes out incredibly powerful from this not to mention Arthur is a speed demon.

Levin is great for Sety as he can defeat the dragon knights of Thracia by himself with Holsety. Besides he deserves it just for being awesome.

I've had claude!sety do a similar thing with elwind, in fact, he does castle defense better, because the enemies doe not attack if they have 0 hit%, whereas claude!sety tends to have his in the low single digits.

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