Jedi Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 You don't need to play the other games every Dynasty Warriors game has the same story just some good more in-depth. It does have similar story, but sometimes they change things for effect. Or variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) After reading some "historical shit" I kinda disliked playing the game at times due to how much Shu got glorified, and for a long time Wei was "the villain". I'm pretty much a full on Wei fanboy right now, the characters are likable, the story has been tweaked in recent games(like 8) for the better Although on the other hand Cao Ren and Zhang Liao has always been some of my favorite character, so knowing how ridiculously overpowered they are in historical records is actually pretty nice Anyway playing DW8 as Wei is somewhat hilarious. One time they give you Cao Ren, Zhang Liao, and especially Xiahou Yuan who is ridiculously overpowered, and then other time none of them exist in favor of scrubs like Jia Xu or that guy with double Hook sword. It actually got so bad that me and my cousin decided to do a rock-paper-scissor to decide who get to play Xiahou Yuan Edited October 14, 2015 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Yeah starting with 7 they've been really fair to all 3 kingdoms. Generally anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Anyway playing DW8 as Wei is somewhat hilarious. One time they give you Cao Ren, Zhang Liao, and especially Xiahou Yuan who is ridiculously overpowered, and then other time none of them exist in favor of scrubs like Jia Xu or that guy with double Hook sword. It actually got so bad that me and my cousin decided to do a rock-paper-scissor to decide who get to play Xiahou Yuan Yue Jin's alright. He reminds me of Kabal from Mortal Kombat with the hook swords. His moveset's fun enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 IIRC 6 was somewhat fair to everyone, except for Sun Jian because his story mode basically went on "what if Sun Jian survive" mode, and the result is as hilarious as it is predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 One time they give you Cao Ren, Zhang Liao, and especially Xiahou Yuan who is ridiculously overpowered, and then other time none of them exist in favor of scrubs like Jia Xu or that guy with double Hook sword. It actually got so bad that me and my cousin decided to do a rock-paper-scissor to decide who get to play Xiahou Yuan What map is this? I don't recall a map where you play with these three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 What map is this? I don't recall a map where you play with these three. Its spread between several maps. Pre-Chi Bi was the most notable iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hey Yue Jin is one of the Wei 5 grand general's! and god i loved early Cao Ren, but ever since 6 his portrayal has not been kind, let alone how few chances he gets to be playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hey Yue Jin is one of the Wei 5 grand general's! and god i loved early Cao Ren, but ever since 6 his portrayal has not been kind, let alone how few chances he gets to be playable. Well, all of the Five Generals of Wei are playable now, so. Also this is a concern. Balance in playable characters. Though Cao Ren's portrayal hasn't bothered me that much, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Well, all of the Five Generals of Wei are playable now, so. Also this is a concern. Balance in playable characters. Though Cao Ren's portrayal hasn't bothered me that much, tbh i mean he could have more screen time of course, but Cao Ren didn't have a storymode in 6, wasn't playable at all in 7's story mode (not even in his famous battles), and got ONE stage in 8. (not even one that he was well known for) Edited October 15, 2015 by HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 i mean he could have more screen time of course, but Cao Ren didn't have a storymode in 6, wasn't playable at all in 7's story mode (not even in his famous battles), and got ONE stage in 8. Yeah, that's what I meant by balance with playable characters. Though, in 8XL, he has 3 stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I only played 8 XL :( Character balance is an issue that is weird to solve tbh. On one hand, we have DW5 Model, that obviously allows everyone to have same level of roles, and then SW2 shows how bad this become when your character roster is like.... 60 x 20 stages(this is the entire reason SW never clicked on me). Good luck playing the game with all character! DW6 Model allows a better story in general(because theres fewer of them of course) but it comes with its own issues of not having enough characters in the spotlight. Then we have 4/8 model where some characters are just overused, and some others are underused Im a fan of DW5 Model, but this is because I'm not the knd of player who gets really easilly bored playing the same game over and over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Well, all of the Five Generals of Wei are playable now, so. Also this is a concern. Balance in playable characters. Though Cao Ren's portrayal hasn't bothered me that much, tbh Too bad the last two aren't good Cao Ren was actually pretty cool in the earlier DWs. But yeah, I see balance between the characters being a lasting issue the more they add to the roster Then we have 4/8 model where some characters are just overused, and some others are underused Im a fan of DW5 Model, but this is because I'm not the knd of player who gets really easilly bored playing the same game over and over again I liked the way DW5 did story mode as well. Like, for example, Guan Ping was only good and relevant in one game *coughDW5cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Guan Ping's in that Koei group of friends of "well shit what do we do with this character?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Yue Jin's alright. He reminds me of Kabal from Mortal Kombat with the hook swords. His moveset's fun enough. Yeah the whole "HERE LET ME HOOK YOU AND SMASH YOU AND IM JUMP AROUND AND SHIT" is really fun. I'm mostly a fan of Bruiser explosive tanky characters though, so guys like Cao Ren/Orochi Nene fits my ideal playstyle much more. This was one of my gripe with Orochi Kunoichi as well since despite how ridiculously good she is(she's probably the single most overpowered character in any Warriors game), her playstyle involves spamming one move with very narrow coverage that kills officer while having enough coverage to deal with crowds Oh wait you don't need to deal with crowds with Kunoichi, what am i kidding. Anyway Guan Ping being entirely added for adding young characters during 5 was quite a big mess since they decided to add more after Ping loses his purpose and they ended up becoming "Guan Yu cheer squad" Theres also Pang Tong who'se hard to work in since he's only relevant for like 2 battle Edited October 15, 2015 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Too bad the last two aren't goodThe last two meaning Yue Jin and Yu Jin?Character or playstyle? if it's the latter, then you're right if it's historical route then, Yu Jin's character is atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The last two meaning Yue Jin and Yu Jin? Character or playstyle? if it's the latter, then you're right if it's historical route then, Yu Jin's character is atrocious I forgot about Yu Jin, oops, he's... he looks okay, as far as movesets go. But, I meant Li Dian and Yue Jin; both of them are kinda bad in both personality and movesets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I can understand Li Dian, but Yue Jin's personality is okay, at least. To me anyways. He's kinda what the Warrior should amass to me something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Yeah the whole "HERE LET ME HOOK YOU AND SMASH YOU AND IM JUMP AROUND AND SHIT" is really fun. I'm mostly a fan of Bruiser explosive tanky characters though, so guys like Cao Ren/Orochi Nene fits my ideal playstyle much more. This was one of my gripe with Orochi Kunoichi as well since despite how ridiculously good she is(she's probably the single most overpowered character in any Warriors game), her playstyle involves spamming one move with very narrow coverage that kills officer while having enough coverage to deal with crowds Oh wait you don't need to deal with crowds with Kunoichi, what am i kidding. Anyway Guan Ping being entirely added for adding young characters during 5 was quite a big mess since they decided to add more after Ping loses his purpose and they ended up becoming "Guan Yu cheer squad" Theres also Pang Tong who'se hard to work in since he's only relevant for like 2 battle koei's in a tough spot regarding worthless additions, they can't remove characters due to backlash, but they also can't do anything with certain peeps as long as they stick to historical. with that said Guan Suo is not popular in the east or the west so i think he could go. Edited October 15, 2015 by HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Bao Sanniang can join him with characters that can go Anyway Guan Ping being entirely added for adding young characters during 5 was quite a big mess since they decided to add more after Ping loses his purpose and they ended up becoming "Guan Yu cheer squad" Theres also Pang Tong who'se hard to work in since he's only relevant for like 2 battle Hmm, Guan Xing could've replaced Guan Ping after DW5, now that I think about it. But even then, the relevancy of Xing would've been limited, because Yiling was all he was really known for. I think Pang Tong could be a unique NPC for all the treatment Koei gives him. If they want to keep the Guan family, give us Pang Hui for what that's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I like Guan Suo Do I like the fact they added every other Guan child in existence? No. Guan Xing is pretty bro though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I'm partly annoyed that they make Ling Tong and Gan Nings whole rivalry their entire schtick since like 6, I liked how 5 had them reflect on it more and still do their other stuff. Ling Tong was also a really generous man and Sun Quan actually cried when he passed away because he had taken care of a number of matters in the Kingdom. Although I will say both are still damned fun to play, I didn't mind Tongs shift to a tri-staff and I love his musou for just how ridiculously cool it looks. although I will admit I enjoy the banter between Tong, Ning and Lu Meng in the recent games. Edited October 15, 2015 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soledai Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) The Tri-Staff is pretty cool, but it really only shined in DW6 if you ask me, it was just ridiculous there. Then again, in comparison to the nunchaks in 7 & 8, the Tri-Staff easily outdoes it Lu Meng is pretty great when dealing with them. Edited October 15, 2015 by Soledai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Gan Ning's Masanori to Lu Meng's Kiyomasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Speaking of Lu Meng I find his weapon for how simple it is, does tons of freaking damage lol. Edited October 15, 2015 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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