Mox Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Hey Guys, With the recent release of "The Making of Fire Emblem" book I thought that it might be a good idea to make a forum post related to sharing information about Fates provided in the book. Is there any concept art, official art, interesting facts like age or height, etc? Please feel free to share any thoughts, pictures or interesting facts here. I'm sure that those of us without the book will be excited to see and hear about the content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'm sad to say ages and heights are unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmarth Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If I get enough donations, I will be able to scan all the pages (might take some time though;;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minischew Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'm sad to say ages and heights are unlikely. If those are sample pages, then won't the censors for age and height be removed for the actual books? I'm just wondering, since I don't see the point of including the information and then censoring it. Why not leave it out entirely instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If those are sample pages, then won't the censors for age and height be removed for the actual books? I'm just wondering, since I don't see the point of including the information and then censoring it. Why not leave it out entirely instead? The "sample" text is the only censor you need. Plus in my article, I outlined a previous example where the devs refrained from posting the information. The way I see it, the devs are letting us look at the fact sheet, but without the age and heights. Presumably there are other interesting details in the fact sheet beyond the censored things, like perhaps Jakob's life history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Oh, this looks interesting. Could this give us an idea of what the bloody hell happened in Fates' development? It's the biggest gaming mystery ever to me. Also, character ages? In before Camilla is 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) I've found two possible people who may have seen the book. Here's one. WARNING: I would wait for the scans or people to check the book before treating the below as fact. Unless I read wrong, Fire Emblem 64 was planned to be "Maiden of Darkness". So the people who guessed FE6 was born from the ashes of FE64 might be correct... Even stranger, Roy was originally known as Ike. ...and something a few of us probably guessed. [spoiler=Why Fire Emblem if got a CERO C rating]It was because of Camilla's cutscene. Nothing else was to blame. According to the second person, it's suggested that IS followed Kibayashi's draft for Fire Emblem if for the most part. [spoiler=Even weird stuff like]Slime Garon was Kibayashi's idea. But I'll wait until I see it : P Edited November 29, 2015 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyanko Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Wow. If that's true, they need to not use Kibayashi anymore for stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 ...Huh. I think we all gave Kibiyashi a bit too much credit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'm really hoping the second part is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alazen Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I've never seen anything by Kibayashi. Is he even a praiseworthy writer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tbh I don't really care who's the main writer anymore. The narrative's already... as it is, and finding out whose responsibility it was isn't gonna help with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) I've never seen anything by Kibayashi. Is he even a praiseworthy writer? He seems more like a "meh" writer; some of his stuff is better than others. The selling point was that he's been at it for quite some time. EDIT: Also, how many first drafts of stories have been that good? Kibiyashi was busy with other projects at the time; I think it's more likely than not that he just a scribbled a crapton of stuff down for each route that could've used fine-tuning. Edited November 29, 2015 by The DanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmarth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Seems like alot of the reviews of the book are saying that the images are too small...the book 10x7 after all, i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmola Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) He seems more like a "meh" writer; some of his stuff is better than others. The selling point was that he's been at it for quite some time. EDIT: Also, how many first drafts of stories have been that good? Kibiyashi was busy with other projects at the time; I think it's more likely than not that he just a scribbled a crapton of stuff down for each route that could've used fine-tuning. One of the reasns that "star wars" is so good is that it had extensive editing. Read through some of the drafts here Note how they get gradually better: http://starwarz.com/starkiller/category/star-wars-scripts/star-wars-star-wars-scripts/ This is true of pretty much anything ever. Check the "acknowledgements" page of any decent book, and you will find a thank you to whoever edited or preread the book. A very few authers can get away without doing this, but they are exceptions, not the rule. Edited November 29, 2015 by sirmola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverPants Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Seems like alot of the reviews of the book are saying that the images are too small...the book 10x7 after all, i guess. Looking at the sample pages, I can see why. Fates art book when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmarth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Looking at the sample pages, I can see why. Fates art book when? my guess somewhere in january, cuz they are releasing the artbook ( i believe it's artbook?) of the #FE game on the wii in december Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyanko Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Are you guys talking about the artbook that's included in the SE or can I let myself hope for a better one to be released sometime in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Now that makes me want the book even more. I like the Kaga = Voldemort analogy. The game designer who must not be named. Are you guys talking about the artbook that's included in the SE or can I let myself hope for a better one to be released sometime in the future? It's a different book. ​ Edited November 29, 2015 by nocturnal YL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmarth Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Genei Ibun Roku #FE Art book is what I was talking about, aha, i couldn't remember the name sorry. So I am being hopeful for a Fates artbook to be released in early new year....can only cross my fingers for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Wow. If that's true, they need to not use Kibayashi anymore for stories. ...Huh. I think we all gave Kibiyashi a bit too much credit... I'm really hoping the second part is not true. Now now, people, we don't actually know if it made sense in his draft or not. Still, this is some very interesting information, and if they did follow the draft as closely as they say, then he needs to stay as far away from video game as possible for a long, long time. Still, I'll direct my righteous fury over this game's narrative at the guilty party only when I know for certain who managed to butcher it completely. Edited November 29, 2015 by Thane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 TBH, I'm way more excited for FE64 info over getting mad at Fate's story. For the moment, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 TBH, I'm way more excited for FE64 info over getting mad at Fate's story. For the moment, anyway. When it comes to behind the scenes of video games, there's not a single thing I want to know more than who messed up Fire Emblem Fates and what exactly happened. Like, they boasted about the story in an Iwata Asks; were they delusional or did they actually have a good story at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Eh... I kinda gave up on their writing ability at Awakening, so maybe I accepted the idea that they were delusional earlier? lol I just have low expectations in general, I guess. (But this topic is for Fates info, maybe FE64 info should go in the topic over in the FE general section.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Just gonna drop some more unconfirmed tidbits from the previous sources. Apparently in an earlier version of skin-shipping, you could rub the character's lower part and the rubbing icon was a hand, not a pen. Nintendo's reaction was "nope". That probably also explains why you can still pan the camera down, but you can't do anything there. [spoiler=Hoshido late-game spoiler]Kaze's death was originally unavoidable, but IS decided to add the option to let him survive. [spoiler='Minor 3rd route spoilers]I haven't played the 3rd route yet, but I think the Invisible Kingdom was based off India. Supposedly you can see some influence in Azura's design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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