BofaDeezNuts Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I'm surprised I didn't see a recent thread about this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekender Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) There really is no best route, at least, in my opinion. It all depends on what you're attached to. If you're a fan of Awakening's system, especially the grinding, then Birthright is definitely for you. Some people also like to recommend newcomers of the series to try Birthright first as a crash course of how the games work. If you're a fan of the older Fire Emblem games, like the variety of victory conditions, or just want a good challenge in general, Conquest is recommended. Although, I definitely like Conquest the best. It arguably has the best development and storytelling or writing of all three routes. (Note: best does not mean compelling and good.) While the characters may seem weird or even out-of-place sometimes, you can't argue that a fair amount of them really shine in supports, especially the Nohr Royals. While I can't 100% speak for the next reason myself, but I do see a lot of people agreeing to it, Conquest is deemed to have some of the best gameplay in the series. Edited May 21, 2016 by Weekender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLuckChris Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Had way more fun playing conquest than birthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Conquest and it's not even close to being close I really dig its map design and difficulty. Birthright is a bit boring IMO Edited May 21, 2016 by Nobody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Conquest. Firstly, before the game was released, I had doubts on the character designs of Birthright as they didn't look or aren't that great to begin with. I don't mind the style of it but rather, the design of the characters is what annoys me. Conquest nails the character design. It also nails on the Tactical Gameplay which it has a lot of variety out of. Between the two games ( and probably even the third), Conquest's Dragon Veins are the most interesting and the most useful of them all. Because of that, the maps are very memorable more than Birthright and Revelation. I personally like that limited resources thing. It makes the tactical approach of things even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86san Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Gameplay and map wise, Conquest is the better of the two. Birthright is kind of outrageously easy, but that doesn't make it bad. Its good for newcomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valieruswanderer Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Birthright. to me the story actually made ssense. That basically has me won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiToastExplosion Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Birthright. to me the story actually made ssense. That basically has me won. I just hit the start button during conquest, and I just pretend the entire game is an extended campaign in conquering Hoshido. I don't need a reason. I just want to see Hoshido fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Conquest wins easily. Its satisfyingly hard, the map design can compete with the very best out of the series and there is plenty of variety. All things combine to form a Fire emblem that's both very pleasant and very rewarding to succeed at. I always found Birthright to bare bones for my liking. The maps are bland, the objectives always the same and the game seems far easier then Awakening ever was. The story of Conquest gets a lot of flak but at least its there which I kind of doubt in Birthright. I never got the feeling the story was being presented with a lot of enthusiasm before the fight with Xander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rend Keaven Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Both route are good, bu have their flaws.I like Conquest more because it;s gameplay is unique, has better characters, map design. But the story is very weak and Corrin is such a idiot/pushover in that route.Birthright may be too similar to Awakening in terms of its playable yet casual gameplay, but the story is better, the soundtrack is good, the better ending and proves that you need a good story doesn't need to be as complex as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Conquest. Even the story is better to me because Birthright I just plain don't care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saisymbolic Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Conquest easily. I found myself unable to even complete BR just because of how bland the gameplay was. I still haven't completed it. Conquest hit all the right marks. Combined with music and characters that I preferred, it is an easy win. In regards to story, all three games suffer from it to varying extents. With CQ, it's easy to block out the story with the challenge; BR had no such outlet. I was forced to focus on something and the story happened to be it. Lo and behold, it's a story I've heard about a million times before. Great. Edited September 1, 2016 by SaiSymbolic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) No best route. For me: Birthright for Japan. Conquest for superb gameplay. Revelations for the questionable, but arguably fun gimmicks. You will find that Conquest will win in popularity in this forum, easily. Because of the demographic of this forum. Outside, Birthright. Voted Conquest, though. Edited September 1, 2016 by shadowofchaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yedknowsall Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Conquest. It was nice to have some map variety, especially a challenging defense mission. It also has some of the most fun characters to use in Fates (Charlotte, Benny, Nyx, Laslow, Beruka.......), in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Conquest, hands down. It has better map design and more interesting fights, and actually does interesting things with skills. Also, while Conquest's story is atrocious, I did enjoy it in a very sick sense, and it had my attention, inspiring rage and bemusement within me. Birthright's story was just generic and bland when it wasn't equally stupid. All in all, in every sense i had more fun with Conquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valieruswanderer Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I just hit the start button during conquest, and I just pretend the entire game is an extended campaign in conquering Hoshido. I don't need a reason. I just want to see Hoshido fall. Thats terrible. But I can respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiToastExplosion Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Thats terrible. But I can respect that. I'm terrible, but I'll respect you ;p I'll play Hoshido some day, but my wife chose Birthright and I chose Conquest. I've really been embracing the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'm surprised at how many people are voting Conquest. I kept seeing people here hate on it before because of the story and stuff. But anyway, I haven't played Conquest and I don't intend to because I have no interest in it, so Birthright is my vote. It has a decent story, okay gameplay, and awesome characters. Conquest doesn't have anything appealing to me except for some gameplay elements, and that's not enough for me to get interested in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) I'm surprised at how many people are voting Conquest. I kept seeing people here hate on it before because of the story and stuff.Conquest's story is crap. Very few here will like it for that.But the game play elements and difficulty are so praiseworthy to veteran players that it was a breath of fresh air. It is literally the kind of gameplay that a section of the community has wanted for so long. It is that good, why people like it more. Even on normal classic it gives you a huge amount of insight into what you need to improve on in FE strategy. It's the kind of wall people revel in overcoming. The kind of nostalgia with old FE games that either: A. I overcame it, this is the best! B. (Puts 3ds down) Screw this, I'm eating cake. Edited September 2, 2016 by shadowofchaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibiToastExplosion Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 B. (Puts 3ds down) Screw this, I'm eating cake. This. I don't know why exactly, but I like it a lot when the game makes me so frustrated that I don't want to play it for a week. CQ chapter 10 is a beautiful chapter. On normal even, it's pretty satisfying. But on hard, I actually got stuck. Tried it a few times, my strategy getting better each time, until I got far enough to realize that on hard Oboro and Hinata move. I got so mad, I put the game down for an entire month, picked it back up, started an entirely new file, and I'm way past that point now. But the sense of victory after clearing that particular chapter - that's the moment I live for. That chapter actually made me appreciate defense chapters a bit more. In the past, I hated them because they were so easy that I was upset the chapter was limited to x amount of turns, effectively keeping me from enjoying it at my own pace - whatever I wanted to do. CQ ch 10 made every turn so worth it. It was a rush like no other - and while it's one of the better chapters in the game, it's not the only one that's pretty good. Ch 10 is one of my all time favorite stages, along with Collapse of the Alliance and Port Warren. It's just that good /gush. Also, different strokes for different folks, but story is the least important part for me. After the first playthrough (and there are always many, many more), the start button gets worn out from all the skipping. Doesn't matter what FE game it is, I know what happens already so now it's time to sort of make my own headcannons or just enjoy the gameplay. Once you stop reading and start playing, CQ is one of the best games in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScrubNewb Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 This is a really hard choice to make, but I'm going to have to pick Conquest. Even if Birthright is a great game, its still pretty boring in comparison to Conquest. The story is generic and the maps are really easy, and it doesn't have the same replay ability that Conquest has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistyRose Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 There really is no best route, at least, in my opinion. It all depends on what you're attached to. If you're a fan of Awakening's system, especially the grinding, then Birthright is definitely for you. Some people also like to recommend newcomers of the series to try Birthright first as a crash course of how the games work. If you're a fan of the older Fire Emblem games, like the variety of victory conditions, or just want a good challenge in general, Conquest is recommended. Although, I definitely like Conquest the best. It arguably has the best development and storytelling or writing of all three routes. (Note: best does not mean compelling and good.) While the characters may seem weird or even out-of-place sometimes, you can't argue that a fair amount of them really shine in supports, especially the Nohr Royals. While I can't 100% speak for the next reason myself, but I do see a lot of people agreeing to it, Conquest is deemed to have some of the best gameplay in the series. That is true for sure seeing as both sides can get the shaft depending on who you are attached to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkarian Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Birthright has shit maps but a less shit story Conquest has solid maps but a shit story Revelations has the worst maps in FE history and a shit story Pick your poison really if you wanted the same challenge Conquest provides just play FE 5 or 12 seeing as how both have better map design without having to rely on shitty gimmicks like the windtribe or the Kataro maps. Thracia has more nuanced mechanics then Conquest and New Mystery, whereas FE 12 has the best difficulty curve in the series and is more simple than both while still having superb map design and enemy placement. All 3 games suffer from balance issues but all FE games are imbalanced so it shouldn't count against any of them. Edited September 20, 2016 by Valkarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidellCrimea Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 You will find that Conquest will win in popularity in this forum, easily. Because of the demographic of this forum. Outside, Birthright. May I ask which community you're referring to? I've been on Reddit, lurked GFaqs and 4chan now and then and the Conquest/Birthright ratio is always like 7:3. If the Japan polls are any indication, the Japanese players seem to favor Nohr characters more than the Hoshido ones as well. As for myself, Conquest easily. I'm the rare kind of people that likes Conquest's story. I greatly enjoy the gameplay and the characters, especially the Nohr siblings. Their dynamics with each other are fantastic. I also prefer the Celtic influenced soundtracks to the Japanese ones. Birthright is alright I guess. The gameplay is too easy for my taste, and ironically the only time I care about the story is when the Nohr guys show up. Hoshido does contain some characters I like though, like Saizo, Sakura, Orochi and Azama. I know it's not on the poll, but my least favorite route has to be Revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) People IRL, forums not catered to Fire Emblem. As in, casuals that aren't particularly active in forums dedicated towards FE. Reddit, GFaqs, and 4chan are pretty much the same gamer demographic as here. Edited October 2, 2016 by shadowofchaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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