Landmaster Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, daisy jane said: hmmmm does the speed increase at all if you merge her into your +atk? It will increase since she'll be a +3. I think she gains 2 HP and 1 to every other stat~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Landmaster said: It will increase since she'll be a +3. I think she gains 2 HP and 1 to every other stat~ if it were me, i'd merge her then. it makes her speedy - and she still can hit hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Landmaster said: I have a +2 Nowi that's +Spd, -Res and I just pulled one that's +Atk, -Res. I'm debating if I should value the extra +Atk more or keep the +Spd. Is this Halloween Nowi or normal Nowi? Halloween Nowi goes either way depending on how you use her (one-hit-kill builds want +Atk, Desperation builds want +Spd). I personally prefer +Atk on normal Nowi as a pure enemy-phase unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Is this Halloween Nowi or normal Nowi? Halloween Nowi goes either way depending on how you use her (one-hit-kill builds want +Atk, Desperation builds want +Spd). I personally prefer +Atk on normal Nowi as a pure enemy-phase unit. It's normal Nowi~ I generally use her in both phases but she does function better in the enemy phase, I suppose 52 minutes ago, daisy jane said: if it were me, i'd merge her then. it makes her speedy - and she still can hit hard. That's true, the only thing really stopping me is her 3000+ SP that'll be going down the drain OTL but I'll probably wait a bit before I merge her since I don't need it right away~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Hey. If I have a Totally Neutral Sword!Eirika - this would be the perfect one to 5* & build into, right?) I was just checking IV's of a lot of my duplicates, and i removed all skills weapons and i was surprised that she was completely neutral. or should i wait until i train my other two (I did NOT check those iv's). and see if they are +atk or + speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, daisy jane said: Hey. If I have a Totally Neutral Sword!Eirika - this would be the perfect one to 5* & build into, right?) I was just checking IV's of a lot of my duplicates, and i removed all skills weapons and i was surprised that she was completely neutral. or should i wait until i train my other two (I did NOT check those iv's). and see if they are +atk or + speed? If they are not 5*, you can just go to the unlock potential screen and check their level 1 stats of the next rarity. I would wait to see if your other copies are +Atk/Spd. 11 hours ago, Zihark11 said: ok so got more feathers to make another 5 star. I really like the idea of an 'Enemy phase" unit. what are some really good units for this? Def/Res tanks just requires a unit to have a high Def or Res stat, or both. Spd tanks need decent Spd as well as passable bulk, which I would say is about 40+ Spd (not including buffs) and about 75+ of either bulk. Specialist tanks like Niles and Felicia require both high Spd and Def/Res. All armors and dragons are decent Enemy Phase units in my opinion. Armor units have a large amount of stats to work with and dragons have access to Distant Counter via Lightning Breath. 7 hours ago, Landmaster said: I have a +2 Nowi that's +Spd, -Res and I just pulled one that's +Atk, -Res. I'm debating if I should value the extra +Atk more or keep the +Spd. Against Spd stacked enemies, Nowi is better with a Spd stacked build. With the release of Darting Stance, Nowi can now viably run as a Spd tank while keeping Steady Breath and drastically reduce her losses. If you do not mind waiting, I would wait for Darting Breath to come out and give her that instead of Steady Breath. Spd stacked Nowi is more vulnerable to Bold Armor fighters though since Nowi cannot use her Spd defensively against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, XRay said: Against Spd stacked enemies, Nowi is better with a Spd stacked build. With the release of Darting Stance, Nowi can now viably run as a Spd tank while keeping Steady Breath and drastically reduce her losses. If you do not mind waiting, I would wait for Darting Breath to come out and give her that instead of Steady Breath. Spd stacked Nowi is more vulnerable to Bold Armor fighters though since Nowi cannot use her Spd defensively against them. I'm not seeing the value. No matter how I run the numbers with varying differences in merges and buffs, a build running a mix of Atk and Def boosts almost always outperforms a build stacking Spd in wins and a build stacking Spd only sometimes has fewer losses than an Atk-Def build. The builds I'm using are Nowi [+Spd] (Lightning Breath+ [Spd], Bonfire, Darting Breath, Quick RIposte 3, Darting Stance 3)Nowi [+Atk] (Lightning Breath+ [Def], Bonfire, Steady Breath, Guard 3, Quick Riposte 3)Nowi [+Atk] (Lightning Breath+ [Def], Bonfire, Steady Breath, Quick Riposte 3, Close Def 3) Edited October 17, 2018 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landmaster Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 7 hours ago, XRay said: Against Spd stacked enemies, Nowi is better with a Spd stacked build. With the release of Darting Stance, Nowi can now viably run as a Spd tank while keeping Steady Breath and drastically reduce her losses. If you do not mind waiting, I would wait for Darting Breath to come out and give her that instead of Steady Breath. Spd stacked Nowi is more vulnerable to Bold Armor fighters though since Nowi cannot use her Spd defensively against them. I hadn't considered Darting Stance, that is a good point~ For general purposes, I'll say my current set is Aether, Steady Breath, Guard, QR, not sure if it would make a difference compared to @Ice Dragon's Builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: I'm not seeing the value. No matter how I run the numbers with varying differences in merges and buffs, a build running a mix of Atk and Def boosts almost always outperforms a build stacking Spd in wins and a build stacking Spd only sometimes has fewer losses than an Atk-Def build. The builds I'm using are Nowi [+Spd] (Lightning Breath+ [Spd], Bonfire, Darting Breath, Quick RIposte 3, Darting Stance 3)Nowi [+Atk] (Lightning Breath+ [Def], Bonfire, Steady Breath, Guard 3, Quick Riposte 3)Nowi [+Atk] (Lightning Breath+ [Def], Bonfire, Steady Breath, Quick Riposte 3, Close Def 3) Here is my export list. I am not sure how put buffs and debuffs in the export list, but the second "Steady Breath" is basically Darting Breath with Def-4 debuff and Spd+4 Spur. Other than that, no buffs are involved. Def stacking Steady Breath does do better on the hard list, which I assume is due to the higher ratio of Bold Fighter armors. I have not checked +Atk with Def stacking, but I assume it does worse than pure Def stacking since pure Def stacking usually does better by surviving more enemies. +Spd, Steady Breath Enemy Phase [Full List] 210:36:56 Enemy Phase [Hard List] 83:68:71 +Spd, Steady Breath Enemy Phase [Full List] 216:19:67 Enemy Phase [Hard List] 91:59:72 +Def, Steady Breath Enemy Phase [Full List] 199:70:33 Enemy Phase [Hard List] 96:70:56 Nowis Spoiler CHALLENGER LIST Nowi (5* +spd -res) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Darting Stance 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Nowi (5* +spd -res) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Darting Stance 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Nowi (5* +def -spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Close Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Full List Spoiler ENEMIES - FILTERED FULL LIST Include: melee, ranged, red, blue, green, gray, physical, magical, infantry, cavalry, flying, armored, staff, nonstaff Rarity: 5* Merge: +5 Boon: +spd Special: Moonbow Replace Special: true A: Fury 3 Replace A: true Hard List +10 Spoiler ENEMIES - CUSTOM LIST Beruka (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Ignis A: Distant Counter S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Caeda (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Wing Sword Special: Iceberg A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Caeda (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Wing Sword Special: Iceberg A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Guard 3 S: Speed 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Camilla (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Camilla (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Handbell+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Camilla (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Giant Spoon+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Camilla (Spring) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Camilla (Spring) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Windsweep 3 Celica (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Ragnarok Special: Luna A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Celica (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Ragnarok Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Cherche (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Axe+ Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Cherche (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Axe+ Special: Bonfire A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Cordelia (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Lance+ Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Cordelia (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Lance+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 S: Attack 3 Cordelia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Lance+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 S: Speed 3 Cordelia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Lance+ Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 S: Speed 3 Cordelia (Bride) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 Cordelia (Bride) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 Cordelia (Bride) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 S: Quickened Pulse Cordelia (Bride) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 Cordelia (Bride) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Bow+ Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 Corrin(F) (Summer) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Corrin(F) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Speed 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Corrin(F) (Summer) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Delthea (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dark Aura Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Delthea (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dark Aura Special: Moonbow A: Life and Death 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Dorcas (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Stout Tomahawk Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Draug (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Wo Dao+ Special: Ignis A: Steady Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Draug (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Azura (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Sapphire Lance+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 C: Fortify Res 3 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Lance+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Tannenboom!+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Deflect Magic 3 Upgrade Path: 4 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Deflect Magic 3 Upgrade Path: 4 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berkut's Lance+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Upgrade Path: 4 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Deflect Magic 3 Upgrade Path: 4 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Ridersbane+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Deflect Magic 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Effie (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Quickened Pulse Eldigan (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Mystletainn Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Swordbreaker 3 S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 5 Elincia (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Amiti Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 Elincia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Amiti Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 Elincia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Sword+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Swordbreaker 3 Elise (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gravity+ Special: Miracle A: Atk Spd 2 B: Wrathful Staff 3 Upgrade Path: 7 Elise (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gravity+ Special: Miracle A: Close Def 3 B: Wrathful Staff 3 S: Close Def 3 Upgrade Path: 7 Elise (Summer) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: G Tomebreaker 3 Ephraim (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Siegmund Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Ephraim (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Siegmund Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Fae (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: G Tomebreaker 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Fae (5*+10) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Frederick (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Axe+ Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Hector (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 Hector (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Armads Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Hector (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 Hector (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 Ike (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Urvan Special: Aether A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 Ike (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Urvan Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Beorc's Blessing S: Quickened Pulse Ike (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Urvan Special: Ignis A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Quickened Pulse Ike (Brave) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Urvan Special: Ignis A: Steady Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Julia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Divine Naga Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: G Tomebreaker 3 Katarina (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Katarina (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Life and Death 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Morgan(M) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Leo (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: R Tomebreaker 3 Leon (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 Lilina (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Forblaze Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 S: Heavy Blade 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Linde (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Linde (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Life and Death 3 B: B Tomebreaker 3 Lucina (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Falchion Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Wrath 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Lucina (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Geirskogul Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Wrath 3 Lyn (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Sol Katti Special: Luna A: Fury 3 B: Wrath 3 S: Attack 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Lyn (Brave) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Sacae's Blessing S: Quickened Pulse Lyn (Brave) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Firesweep Bow+ Special: Moonbow A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Cancel Affinity 3 S: Deflect Magic 3 Lyn (Brave) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Mulagir Special: Moonbow A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Sacae's Blessing S: Deflect Magic 3 Minerva (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Hauteclere Special: Glimmer A: Life and Death 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Minerva (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Hauteclere Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Minerva (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Hauteclere Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Nino (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: G Tomebreaker 3 Nino (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Life and Death 3 B: G Tomebreaker 3 Nowi (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Nowi (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Nowi (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Nowi (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Warding Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Olwen (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Life and Death 3 B: Windsweep 3 S: Phantom Spd 3 Olwen (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dire Thunder Special: Luna A: Life and Death 3 B: Windsweep 3 S: Phantom Spd 3 Reinhardt (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dire Thunder Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Watersweep 3 S: Phantom Spd 3 Reinhardt (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dire Thunder Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 S: Quickened Pulse Roy (Brave) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Blazing Durandal Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Swordbreaker 3 Roy (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blazing Durandal Special: Dragon Fang A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Roy (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blazing Durandal Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 Roy (Brave) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Blazing Durandal Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Swordbreaker 3 Ryoma (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raijinto Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Ryoma (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raijinto Special: Glimmer A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Ryoma (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raijinto Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Ryoma (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raijinto Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Sanaki (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 Sanaki (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Sheena (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Attack 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Sheena (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Ignis A: Distant Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Tana (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Lance+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 Tana (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Lance+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 Tharja (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Tharja (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Life and Death 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Tiki(Y) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Tiki(Y) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Tiki(A) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Tiki(A) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: 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Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Jakob (TOD) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Jakob (TOD) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Bow+ Special: Bonfire A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quickened Pulse Henry (TOD) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gronnblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 Nowi (TOD) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Moonbow A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Windsweep 3 S: Phantom Spd 3 Mia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Resolute Blade Special: Luna A: Flashing Blade 3 B: Wrath 3 Mia (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Resolute Blade Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Dorcas (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Stout Tomahawk Special: Glimmer A: Steady Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Siegbert (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dark Greatsword Special: Moonbow A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Swordbreaker 3 Siegbert (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Dark Greatsword Special: Moonbow A: Heavy Blade 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Siegbert (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Dark Greatsword Special: Moonbow A: Fury 3 B: Swordbreaker 3 Siegbert (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Dark Greatsword Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 Siegbert (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Dark Greatsword Special: Moonbow A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Swordbreaker 3 Chrom (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Chrom (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Chrom (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Axe+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Lissa (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Lissa (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Robin(M) (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Lance+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Robin(M) (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Robin(M) (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Lance+ Special: Bonfire A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Tharja (WE) (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Candelabra+ Special: Ignis A: Close Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Tharja (WE) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Raudrblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Zelgius (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Alondite Special: Black Luna A: Steady Breath B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Quickened Pulse Zelgius (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Alondite Special: Black Luna A: Steady Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Zelgius (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Black Luna A: Steady Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Zelgius (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Alondite Special: Black Luna A: Steady Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Zelgius (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Brave Sword+ Special: Black Luna A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quickened Pulse Myrrh (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Great Flame Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Close Def 3 Myrrh (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Great Flame Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Iote's Shield Myrrh (5*+10 +def) Weapon: Great Flame Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Close Def 3 Ike (VL) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Ragnell Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Ike (VL) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Ragnell Special: Radiant Aether A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Close Def 3 Ike (VL) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Ragnell Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Wrath 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Lyn (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter S: Quickened Pulse Hector (LA) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Berserk Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Alm (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Falchion Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 S: Heavy Blade 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Hardin (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gradivus Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hardin (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gradivus Special: Glimmer A: Steady Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hardin (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Gradivus Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath S: Quickened Pulse Robin(M) (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Expiration Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Robin(M) (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Expiration Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quickened Pulse Robin(M) (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Expiration Special: Ignis A: Steady Breath B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Robin(M) (FH) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Expiration Special: Glimmer A: Warding Breath B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Robin(F) (FV) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Expiration Special: Glimmer A: Dragonskin B: Guard 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Fir (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Nameless Blade Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 5 Fir (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Nameless Blade Special: Iceberg A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 5 Karel (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Nameless Blade Special: Luna A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 5 Ephraim (LL) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Flame Siegmund Special: Galeforce A: Death Blow 4 S: Heavy Blade 3 Olwen (WT) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Thunderhead Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 4 S: Heavy Blade 3 Olwen (WT) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Thunderhead Special: Glimmer A: Swift Sparrow 2 S: Heavy Blade 3 Olwen (WT) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Thunderhead Special: Glimmer A: Fury 3 S: Heavy Blade 3 Leif (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Light Brand Special: Luna A: Distant Counter B: S Drink S: Quickened Pulse Leif (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Wo Dao+ Special: Luna A: Distant Counter B: S Drink S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 1 Leif (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Astra A: Distant Counter B: S Drink S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 1 Leif (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Wo Dao+ Special: Luna A: Distant Counter B: S Drink S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 1 Leif (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Luna A: Steady Breath B: S Drink S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 1 Reinhardt (WT) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Meisterschwert Special: Luna A: Distant Counter B: Swordbreaker 3 S: Quickened Pulse Reinhardt (WT) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Meisterschwert Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Swordbreaker 3 S: Distant Def 3 Reinhardt (WT) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Meisterschwert Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Swordbreaker 3 S: Quickened Pulse Shigure (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Firesweep Lance+ Special: Luna A: Swift Sparrow 2 S: Speed 3 Kana(F) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Speed 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Kana(F) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Lightning Breath+ Special: Bonfire A: Steady Breath B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Speed 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Hinoka (WF) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Warrior Princess Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 S: Attack 3 Ishtar (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Mjolnir Special: Glimmer A: Swift Sparrow 2 S: Quickened Pulse Ryoma (SS) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Wo Dao+ Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Bushido S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Ryoma (SS) (5*+10 +spd) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Bushido S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Ryoma (SS) (5*+10) Weapon: Brave Sword+ Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Bushido S: Heavy Blade 3 Ryoma (SS) (5*+10 +atk) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Glimmer A: Distant Counter B: Bushido S: Quickened Pulse Upgrade Path: 1 Hector (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -spd) Weapon: Maltet Special: Ignis A: Ostian Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Hector (Brave) (5*+10 +def -spd) Weapon: Maltet Special: Bonfire A: Ostian Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Hector (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -spd) Weapon: Maltet Special: Ignis A: Ostian Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (Brave) (5*+10 +def -spd) Weapon: Maltet Special: Bonfire A: Ostian Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (Brave) (5*+10 +def -spd) Weapon: Maltet Special: Bonfire A: Ostian Counter B: Wary Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Ephraim (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Garm Special: Ignis A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Ephraim (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Garm Special: Ignis A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Royal Sword Special: Luna A: Death Blow 4 B: Double Lion S: Quickened Pulse Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Wo Dao+ Special: Moonbow A: Death Blow 4 B: Double Lion S: Quickened Pulse Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +spd -res) Weapon: Royal Sword Special: Luna A: Distant Counter S: Distant Def 3 Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Armorsmasher+ Special: Moonbow A: Steady Breath B: Double Lion S: Quick Riposte 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Hector (MO) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Thunder Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Hector (MO) (5*+10 +atk -spd) Weapon: Thunder Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Vengeful Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Hector (MO) (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Thunder Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Hector (MO) (5*+10 +atk -spd) Weapon: Thunder Armads Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Quick Riposte 3 Hector (MO) (5*+10 +atk -spd) Weapon: Brave Axe+ Special: Ignis A: Death Blow 4 B: Bold Fighter 3 S: Attack 3 Tiki(Y) (5*+10 +spd -res) Special: Ignis A: Distant Counter B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Distant Def 3 Tiki(Y) (5*+10 +spd -res) Special: Glimmer A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Quick Riposte 3 S: Close Def 3 Lyn (LA) (5*+10 +spd -res) Weapon: Blarblade+ Special: Glacies A: Close Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Amelia (5*+10 +spd -res) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Close Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Amelia (5*+10 +spd -res) Weapon: Slaying Axe+ Special: Bonfire A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 S: Distant Def 3 Upgrade Path: 3 Zelgius (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Slaying Edge+ Special: Black Luna A: Distant Counter B: Special Fighter 3 Upgrade Path: 2 Karla (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Vassal's Blade Special: Moonbow A: Distant Counter B: Wrath 3 S: Distant Def 3 Karla (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Vassal's Blade Special: Draconic Aura A: Swift Sparrow 2 B: Wrath 3 S: Attack 3 Karla (5*+10 +atk -res) Weapon: Vassal's Blade Special: Draconic Aura A: Death Blow 4 B: Wrath 3 S: Attack 3 Edited October 17, 2018 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 thans @XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, XRay said: Here is my export list. I am not sure how put buffs and debuffs in the export list, but the second "Steady Breath" is basically Darting Breath with Def-4 debuff and Spd+4 Spur. Other than that, no buffs are involved. Def stacking Steady Breath does do better on the hard list, which I assume is due to the higher ratio of Bold Fighter armors. I have not checked +Atk with Def stacking, but I assume it does worse than pure Def stacking since pure Def stacking usually does better by surviving more enemies. +Atk typically outperforms +Def. I ran another set with no armored enemies at all, and Spd stacking has only comparable performance when buffs are about equivalent with opponents, but an Atk-Def build outperforms a Spd-stacking build when the opponent has superior buffs or merges. Edited October 17, 2018 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 are Innes + Tana really good? (or should i still try to hold tight and see what legendary brings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, daisy jane said: are Innes + Tana really good? (or should i still try to hold tight and see what legendary brings) They are pretty good. Innes is outclassed by BB!Cordelia, but he is useful for Arena Assault to take out dragons. However, if you have Firesweep Bow, I would just give him that instead of Refining Nidhogg. Tana is a good Spd tank, although I personally prefer to use her more as a Player Phase unit instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, XRay said: They are pretty good. Innes is outclassed by BB!Cordelia, but he is useful for Arena Assault to take out dragons. However, if you have Firesweep Bow, I would just give him that instead of Refining Nidhogg. Tana is a good Spd tank, although I personally prefer to use her more as a Player Phase unit instead. shoot. i don't have BB!Cordelia. (or a Faye). thanks re: Tana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, daisy jane said: are Innes + Tana really good? (or should i still try to hold tight and see what legendary brings) Innes is roughly on par with other infantry bow users. He'll do well enough with a Firesweep Bow or a Brave Bow in the Arena. Nidhogg is somewhat more oriented towards PvE play, though it's usable in the Arena with sufficient support. Tana is a top-tier lance flier. She runs Firesweep Lance, Brave Lance, and Harmonic Lance really well. Vidofnir's new refinement makes it viable for dual phase on a mixed team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, daisy jane said: are Innes + Tana really good? (or should i still try to hold tight and see what legendary brings) Innes is basically Bridelia that can ploy. Tana is as good as Cordelia and Shigure because stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: Innes is roughly on par with other infantry bow users. He'll do well enough with a Firesweep Bow or a Brave Bow in the Arena. Nidhogg is somewhat more oriented towards PvE play, though it's usable in the Arena with sufficient support. Tana is a top-tier lance flier. She runs Firesweep Lance, Brave Lance, and Harmonic Lance really well. Vidofnir's new refinement makes it viable for dual phase on a mixed team. thanks.. Tana was always on my "get" list - and she's a focus. but i'm suffering from "don't wanna spend-orbitis." (sigh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, daisy jane said: thanks.. Tana was always on my "get" list - and she's a focus. but i'm suffering from "don't wanna spend-orbitis." (sigh). If you don't have a particular need for Tana as a character, Cordelia and Shigure are easier to get (and therefore easier to get a beneficial nature for) and have almost the exact same stat distribution. Tana is pretty much just a more expensive (and prettier) version of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: If you don't have a particular need for Tana as a character, Cordelia and Shigure are easier to get (and therefore easier to get a beneficial nature for) and have almost the exact same stat distribution. Tana is pretty much just a more expensive (and prettier) version of them. i do have a Cordelia project going. so that's good to know :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liliesgrace Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Okay so Innes starred in today's banner release and though I managed to pull enough copies to finally +10 him and match up with Ephraim, I didn't get the +SPD version I was hoping for. The two sets of Innes I got were neutral and +ATK/-RES. He does already have his personal effect refine on Nidhogg so I thought -RES wouldn't be much issue since initiating on player phase anything that targets resistance can't touch him, but I wanted to get a second opinion on whether that particular boon/bane combo had any advantages over straight up neutral. All this is in light of the fact he'd pretty much only be player versus enemy. I don't go near the arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Liliesgrace said: Okay so Innes starred in today's banner release and though I managed to pull enough copies to finally +10 him and match up with Ephraim, I didn't get the +SPD version I was hoping for. The two sets of Innes I got were neutral and +ATK/-RES. He does already have his personal effect refine on Nidhogg so I thought -RES wouldn't be much issue since initiating on player phase anything that targets resistance can't touch him, but I wanted to get a second opinion on whether that particular boon/bane combo had any advantages over straight up neutral. All this is in light of the fact he'd pretty much only be player versus enemy. I don't go near the arena. I would prioritize [+Atk, -Res] over neutral. Neutral offers nothing besides better Ploy potential, which I think is no where near as important as raw combat performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zihark11 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 want some veteran opinions on my arena team and my best (IMO) PVE team: PVE: Zephyr Sothe: 58 atk/38 spd/17 def/13 Res Peshkatz/Draw Back/Glimmer Life and death 3/B Flexible/Threaten spd 3 Novice Vacationer Corrin: 43 atk/39 spd/19 def/26 res Sealife tome+ (HP and Spd)/reposition/Dragon fang Darting blow 3/Desperation 2/Fortify res 2 Standard Fjorm maxed everything with draw back Holy knight Sigurd: 51 Atk/32 spd/37 def/20 res Divine tyrfing/reposition/bonfire Close def 3/crusaders ward/spd smoke 3 PVP: Caring princess Celica: 46 atk/38 spd/19 def/22 res Raganrok+/Reposition/Glimmer Distant def 3/desperation 2/ spur atk 2 Begnions apostle Sanaki: atk 54/spd 28/def 17/34 res cymbeline+/drawback/moonbow death blow 3/R tomebreaker 2/hone atk 3 Ophelia Drmatic heroine: 51 atk/33 spd/23 def/20 res Missiletainn/ rally atk+/Blazing light sturdy blow 2/chill res 3/threaten res 3 Brave mercanary ike: 55 atk/28 spd/35 def/20res steady breath/beorcs blessing/threaten def 3 Urvan/swap/ Aether let me know :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiki Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Since I accumulated some disgusting Armor fodder I want to expand my Armor options. The ones I consider are Zephiel and M!Grima (+Atk, -Res). As for fodder I have 1 Bold Fighter (1 L!Tiki) and 2 Vengeful Fighter (2 L!Hector). For Grima the easiest option would have been the vaunted Breath+Bold Fighter+Quick Riposte combo but this is currently reserved for my L!Tiki so I can't field him that way. Grima is going to be my 2nd Green Armor in my primary Armor team, consisting of BK, L!Tiki and Sheena. Since Sheena's offensive is pretty much non-existent I'm leaning to build him as a green PP unit. He is +Atk after all, so with Bold Fighter he should be able to achieve many kills with sheer force. Regarding Zephiel; I heard that people tend to use a refined Slaying Edge over his Eckesachs though I'm interested in trying out stacking the DD effect from his refine, making him entirely a EP unit. He already has DC, so VF would be preferable, right? Since his bulk is pretty decent, sitting at 58/50/32, he should be able to soak some hits and he can run Ignis to delete most attackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercakete Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I have a build I'm excited about having accomplished so soon after working on it, but after reading the guidelines for the Heroes Analysis section, I don't think I can really make a thread for it. The particulars (such as what modes the build would be good for and which ones it wouldn't be, as I tend to chase concepts (i.e., "let's give Soren as much doubling power as possible because of Adept in his home game instead of turning him into numbers and optimizing him for winning") and make them (I think?) "general purpose.") of unit-building escape me. (So, rather than "practical," I tend to build "novelty/just for fun," which makes "which game mode is this for" etc. kind of make me smile blankly with many question marks floating about my head. Because I don't focus much on practicality (usually, my focus is more on "themes," such as "defense-focused EP dragon team," (which is actually one of my teams) as far as practicality goes), I can't answer questions about practicality.) As such, perhaps, my best option would have been to just post on a thread someone else already made. However, no one has made one for this character. So, where could I possibly show off this build I'm excited about? Do I need to just keep it to myself, since I can't fulfill the rules in the Heroes Analysis section, which is where you're supposed to share build concepts for specific characters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The first thing I recommend is to pull more Shanna. 2 hours ago, Zihark11 said: PVE: I think Threaten skills are better on tanks than nukes like Sothe. I would use his default Spur Atk/Spd and Wings of Mercy, if you have it. When Corrin is in Desperation range, he can then warp to her and boost her offence. Fjorm is a tank, so she would rather have Swap or Reposition so that she could better shield Sothe or Corrin. Not that Draw Back is a bad assist. 2 hours ago, Zihark11 said: PVP: I like your idea with Ophelia, I'm jealous that I was too worried about Silas to pull for her. I think it would be ideal to have a green mage as well as a red mage. If you double up on colours, it's better to have one ranged and one melee like your other team has. Sanaki wants a flier teammate because of her tome. Unless you have Pale Flower , I would replace her with a green mage such as Pious Mage Celica wants a speed-boosting A skill to more reliably activate Desperation. I presume Ike is using the Quick Riposte seal, but I gave mine QR in the B-slot so that he could use other seals as needed. Beorc's Blessing is fairly niche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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