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15 minutes ago, Vaximillian said:

I'm using her but going to drop her as soon as possible. Not a fan of hers.

She can't be worse than Jagen. Or is she?

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21 minutes ago, Vaximillian said:

I'm using her but going to drop her as soon as possible. Not a fan of hers.

Why? Then again. I have 3* Sully and no jagan. Gonna train up Ursula for next batch. (Unless it's one of my heroes I summoned already)

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2 minutes ago, Ryuke said:

Why? Then again. I have 3* Sully and no jagan. Gonna train up Ursula for next batch. (Unless it's one of my heroes I summoned already)

I find her overspecialised. If it's not a blue cavalry or a blue mage (or, preferably, blue mage cavalry!), she hits like a wet noodle.
She almost never doubles, except on the knights, who usually have too much HP for her to KO.
She has low-ish Res for a mage (not Merric-level, however). She's thoroughly mediocre, excelling only in her narrow niche.

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I trained F!Robin with the intent of using her (since I couldn't have foreseen we'd have Jagen and Sully as the wildcards), but she's just not very good (and that makes me really sad, because I like her in Awakening). Sully's worth more points and, even if she sits around never attacking during a match, she provides Draw Back and Spur Def utility that F!Robin doesn't. Plus, in the current meta, blues make better emergency body blockers than greens.

 

Oh, well, at least F!Robin got to dominate Ursula and maim the axe knight, meaning those resources didn't completely go to waste.

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I read that how much score you can earn in Arena is affected by the characters rating, is that correct? I just managed to pull a no death run and scored 4,416 points and ranked 9,153. And I doubt I can manage to get a higher score with the units I have. Kinda suck since I can probably only be looking at the 5k-10k bracket at most considering I'll never be able to pull characters with the "highest " rating.

edit: With that said the character rating is based of their stats, right? This would mean you can't get to rank 1 unless you have a full team of +10

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1 hour ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said:

I trained F!Robin with the intent of using her (since I couldn't have foreseen we'd have Jagen and Sully as the wildcards), but she's just not very good (and that makes me really sad, because I like her in Awakening). Sully's worth more points and, even if she sits around never attacking during a match, she provides Draw Back and Spur Def utility that F!Robin doesn't. Plus, in the current meta, blues make better emergency body blockers than greens.

 

Oh, well, at least F!Robin got to dominate Ursula and maim the axe knight, meaning those resources didn't completely go to waste.

In my experience, Sully doesn't block anything... I'm glad I have Reinhardt now, but I hope they don't change the bonuses yet lol.

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4 hours ago, pianime94 said:

I'm using her. Though she's barely doing anything in the Arena most of the time. -_-.

Pretty much the same. I smile each time someone throw a Cavalry in there.

1 hour ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said:

I trained F!Robin with the intent of using her (since I couldn't have foreseen we'd have Jagen and Sully as the wildcards), but she's just not very good (and that makes me really sad, because I like her in Awakening). Sully's worth more points and, even if she sits around never attacking during a match, she provides Draw Back and Spur Def utility that F!Robin doesn't. Plus, in the current meta, blues make better emergency body blockers than greens.

 

Oh, well, at least F!Robin got to dominate Ursula and maim the axe knight, meaning those resources didn't completely go to waste.

Yeah.. no one can predict. which is why Narcian (assuming Navarre map comes) and Ursula is my next 2 training materials.

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15 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

In my experience, Sully doesn't block anything...

I have a +atk -spd Sully4 at lv 40, and you can basically throw her at any 1-range red (given over 50%hp), especially the myriad of swordlords in the arena, and not give a shit. It's nice. The -spd doesn't even hurt there because swordbreaker causes the swordlords to not be able to double while letting sully wreck their face. I actually get a lot of ORKOs in against swordlords with her.

Is your Sully -def or Sully3? that might change a lot of things.

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4 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said:

I have a +atk -spd Sully4 at lv 40, and you can basically throw her at any 1-range red (given over 50%hp), especially the myriad of swordlords in the arena, and not give a shit. It's nice. The -spd doesn't even hurt there because swordbreaker causes the swordlords to not be able to double while letting sully wreck their face. I actually get a lot of ORKOs in against swordlords with her.

Is your Sully -def or Sully3? that might change a lot of things.

Mine is +Atk/-HP, and yeah, she can tank Swords and Tiki no problem, but pretty much anything else leaves her helpless. Sharena was a lot more useful for blocking.

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7 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

Mine is +Atk/-HP, and yeah, she can tank Swords and Tiki no problem, but pretty much anything else leaves her helpless. Sharena was a lot more useful for blocking.

Swordlords and Tiki are generally the only thing I want her for, anyway--usually they're Ryoma's job, so taking that load off Ryoma means he can run off to take Takumis and Julias without worrying about taking an extra 20 damage or so. Given that Sharena's on your team their jobs do overlap quite a bit, yeah.

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7 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said:

Swordlords and Tiki are generally the only thing I want her for, anyway--usually they're Ryoma's job, so taking that load off Ryoma means he can run off to take Takumis and Julias without worrying about taking an extra 20 damage or so. Given that Sharena's on your team their jobs do overlap quite a bit, yeah.

My usual team is Lucina/Julia/Kagerou/Sharena, and it was extremely solid. I will say, Pull Back has been useful, but I want my regular team back now.

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1 minute ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said:

My usual team is Lucina/Julia/Kagerou/Sharena, and it was extremely solid. I will say, Pull Back has been useful, but I want my regular team back now.

I run Ryoma + Olivia + 2 others, depending on seasonal setups. I had Ryoma + Olivia + Nino + Sharena planned for this season but also had to swap in Sully for Sharena, but ended up really liking how Sully played with my team since that's 2 drag backs with a dancer, and Nino only misses a few OHKOs (notably, Nowi) but will still ORKO anything she did OHKO anyway.

 

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If my Sully wasn't -Atk I'd consider training her up, even though she'd only be 3*.  Currently using RobinF for arena offense, and she's near useless.  Unless my opponent has a Reinhardt or something, I'm basically going 3v4. 

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3/8/2017 - Rank 4,573; offense 4,354 (10:42PM PST)
3/9/2017 - Rank 7,079; offense 4,354 (3:32PM PST)
3/12/2017 - Rank 8,207; offense 4,402 (1:03AM PST)
3/13/2017 - Rank  10,506; offense 4,402 (3:39PM PST)

Staying in the top 10K was but a dream. I can find some solace that this is the closest I've gotten to the top 10K. I'm just not fortunate enough to get any focus characters to replace the lower stated Sully (even M!Robin and Camilla to an extent). Got to work with what you got.

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Score of 4490:

  • Ground Zero (Midnight PST Mar 9) - #1602
  • 14 Hours Later - #2076
  • 38 Hours Later - $2551
  • 62 Hours Later - #3149
  • 86 Hours Later - #3704
  • 100 Hours Later - #4457
  • Final Rank - #4471

One of these days I'll break 4500. I'll definitely enjoy the extra feathers for scoring the exact same as last week, yet improving rank by 5000-some spots, though. :lol:

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43 minutes ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said:

Score of 4490:

  • Ground Zero (Midnight PST Mar 9) - #1602
  • 14 Hours Later - #2076
  • 38 Hours Later - $2551
  • 62 Hours Later - #3149
  • 86 Hours Later - #3704
  • 100 Hours Later - #4457
  • Final Rank - #4471

One of these days I'll break 4500. I'll definitely enjoy the extra feathers for scoring the exact same as last week, yet improving rank by 5000-some spots, though. :lol:

 

I'm surprised 20 more points was worth about 1100 positions as I ended up around 3300 with my 4510 score. I'm hoping the next set of bonus characters will include the recent nino banner as then my ideal team will already have a bonus character in it. Regardless, Jagen going away will be nice as this week I basically just used 3 people as he was so useless for actual fighting.

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So my endscore of 4416 kept me just under rank 10000(it was like 9300 or so last I checked beforehand, I didn't catch the exact number when I got the flags), which compared to prior weeks, scoring around 4380 left me in the 22-23000 range. Either the banwaves were a lot bigger than expected, or this was a slow week as far as competition goes.

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Some people on GameFAQs are reporting that their ranking jumped up once the arena season closed. Nintendo might have yanked out the hackers after the season ended. 

My final arena score was 4228, just had no luck getting beyond that while trying to lug Fem!Robin around. Tried switching in Lyn over Fem!Corrin to give me a Red option but uh, things just got worse. Lyn doesn't seem particularly arena viable to me anymore, too many blues, not enough greens outside of Julia to make it worth the gamble. 

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I found that replacing Nino wit FRobin made my team weaker to the point where I swapped Kagero 4 out for Eirika 5, the extra BST was just more valuable than the team synergy at that point, and I managed to brute force for the most part. F!Robin is very niche, but she manages to handle Ephraims and blue mages well enough, which are most of what bother Lucina/Eirika. 

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