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@Vaximillian They hate having their ideas labeled as bad so they push it even harder. Makes it worse

So my phone battery died yesterday and I was preoccupied with other things. Didn't get a good AA result

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Why Ryoma and not Linus as bonus unit ? 

I'm stuck Alfonse this time, i'll have to wait the next season to, maybe a day, reach tier 20 (always stuck at 19 at the top for me). 

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10 minutes ago, Kozac said:

Why Ryoma and not Linus as bonus unit ? 

I'm stuck Alfonse this time, i'll have to wait the next season to, maybe a day, reach tier 20 (always stuck at 19 at the top for me). 

Because Ryoma is a new unit and GHB units are available in the game usually after the new arena rotation (I might be wrong because Linus' and Julius' release date is making me doubt myself). If it makes you feel any better, they add the new GHB unit to the bonus unit rotation  after the one where characters of their associated banner are from.

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24 minutes ago, silveraura25 said:

Because Ryoma is a new unit and GHB units are available in the game usually after the new arena rotation (I might be wrong because Linus' and Julius' release date is making me doubt myself). If it makes you feel any better, they add the new GHB unit to the bonus unit rotation  after the one where characters of their associated banner are from.

Ty for the answer but I think it would be logic to make Linus a bonus unit immediatly for the coherence of the banner (Still, it's Ursula so I won't complain because some people wanted her again). I'm just disappointed that I'll have to wait the next bonus heroes rotation to use my promoted Linus. 

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3 hours ago, silveraura25 said:

@Vaximillian They hate having their ideas labeled as bad so they push it even harder. Makes it worse

So my phone battery died yesterday and I was preoccupied with other things. Didn't get a good AA result

The blessings as an incidental strategic option aren't too bad of an idea. Maybe overly restrictive to a degree, but options are always nice. Making it matter so much for score is pretty bad, though. I predict this will homogenize what blessing people care about in the Arenas to just water yet again, just like in the beginning—it's the most competitive season and too much of a pain to put such a large amount of resources toward the other ones. Earth might see some token effort, but it'll probably be a while before people invest in having that many strong, earth-blessed units.

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19 minutes ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said:

The blessings as an incidental strategic option aren't too bad of an idea. Maybe overly restrictive to a degree, but options are always nice. Making it matter so much for score is pretty bad, though. I predict this will homogenize what blessing people care about in the Arenas to just water yet again, just like in the beginning—it's the most competitive season and too much of a pain to put such a large amount of resources toward the other ones. Earth might see some token effort, but it'll probably be a while before people invest in having that many strong, earth-blessed units.

It would be better if the defense teams were somehow restricted to use blessings as well, since you now have to field your first ~60 units against the first 4 units of seven other players. 

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16 hours ago, LordFrigid said:

Here you go:

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Dman, Berserk Armads is cheap. I think it is time to put Serra back on there.

6 hours ago, Korath88 said:

Using a hero with the corresponding blessing to the season adds +1 to your final score, for a maximum of +28. You can probably already see the new maximum on the top rankings. This also means that for those aiming to maximise score, your choice of units is now even more restricted.

Terrible change IMO especially for those lacking blessings or AA reserves.

Holy crap, 5306 is now the top score. Ugh, I have to start handing out more blessings. I haven't even given 28 blessings among all four seasons yet.

4 hours ago, Vaximillian said:

And yes, it is triple blue in the arena.

I ran triple blue for the longest time. Greens are over-rated.

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Guess, I'll officially stop caring at this point, wasting resources that only work for one of the elements in a mode where it's not even certain I'll use the respective units in any given run. Whatever, Top 5k will suffice starting now and for a while.

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AA feels weird now. I got nothing but 724-726 matches and still ended with a score of 5,103, which should just not happen. The top score says 5,306 so this means inflation across the board. I don't know if I'll fall from top 10k now but having to play too much with blessings is too much of a hassle for me so I won't bother with that.

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@XRay Out of all arena days, I met your team in AA today:

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I won, but lost Cherche for an stupid mistake. Forgot to give you the defense win out of excitement, sorry. Usually I skip first matches below 724. 

@XRay @LordFrigid Completed my first deathless/7 in AA with the new Blessing system. It took me some tries, but I managed to get a score of 5,078 (incl. 22 of 28 possible "blessing score"). Thanks for your help again, my teams are better than I thought! 

My old highscore was 5,060 (even with 1 merge less on Cherche), so I don't think I'll come near top 5k again, but I also won't fall out of top 10k hopefully. 

I changed some things compared to what I wrote in the Ask/Help topic. Genny and Dorcas instead of PA!Azura got Water blessings, since already Inigo got Water. After two tries I decided to build an additional Wind team, since the Cav theme was easy to fill: Xander (green Tome breaker), Finn (Swordbreaker), BB!Marth and Clarine. 

Here the full streak: 

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726+2 (Starting team: Cordelia, Cherche, BH!Roy, Shiro)
720+4 (Wind: Titania, Clive, Priscilla, Sigurd)
724+4 (Water: Inigo, Micaiah, Alm, Genny
720+4 (Wind: L'Arachel, LA!Roy, Gunnthrá, SM!Eirika)
720+4 (Water: Siegbert, Elise, Fjorm, Dorcas)
726+3 (Wind: Tobin (sub for Xander), Finn, BB!Marth, Clarine)
720+1 (rest: Xander (Wind), PA!Azura, Nowi, BB!Lyn) 

 

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3 hours ago, mampfoid said:

Forgot to give you the defense win out of excitement, sorry. Usually I skip first matches below 724. 

It is fine. I am swimming in defense wins anyways. I think 7 is the lowest amount of wins I got in a week recently.

I am glad lots of players still make mistakes. That keeps my pony team in business.

I am still stuck in the top 10,000 too for Arena Assault. I do not think I ever managed to get into top 5,000. Hopefully I have some time this weekend to finish merging my Zephiels and give him Aether so maybe that can boost my score a bit. 

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35 minutes ago, XRay said:

It is fine. I am swimming in defense wins anyways. I think 7 is the lowest amount of wins I got in a week recently.

Ah ok, I assumed you would get your wins. I remember your specialized defense teams in the past. 

Also this one is no joke, I think a dancer would make it even better. With all these obstacles, Cavs get delayed first and it's hard to predict whom the dancer will give the refresh. 

36 minutes ago, XRay said:

I am still stuck in the top 10,000 too for Arena Assault. I do not think I ever managed to get into top 5,000. Hopefully I have some time this weekend to finish merging my Zephiels and give him Aether so maybe that can boost my score a bit. 

Good luck then!

My last time in top 5k is already some weeks ago. 

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My situation with defense wins seems pretty strange. I consistently seem to score defense wins in tier 19 but in tier 20, I don't get any defense wins, even while using similar teams between the 2 weeks.

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On 6/14/2018 at 1:25 PM, Roflolxp54 said:

My situation with defense wins seems pretty strange. I consistently seem to score defense wins in tier 19 but in tier 20, I don't get any defense wins, even while using similar teams between the 2 weeks.

Maybe people are more likely to give free pity wins to people in Tier 19.  I know that when I'm done doing my Arena Assault, I always throw my 4th match when I've got my deathless streak.  I'll usually give the win to a Tier 19 person, unless the Tier 20 is someone I recognize or has a funny name or Titania lead or something.

Speaking of people I recognize, @Poimagic is this you?

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I threw the match, in case you needed a Defense Win.

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3 minutes ago, Poimagic said:

@Rezzy Yeah, that is my team. 704 score though. I’m just happy that my team broke the 700 barrier for defense 

Did you have any D Wins already or was that your first this week?  How many points did my team give you?

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Score time. Things went pretty rough, thanks to water season without being able to deploy a water legendary (to no one's surprise, I'm sure).

  • Tier 20 score of 3676 - #1795/6286
  • Arena Assault score of 5218 - #1288

Got spooked late Sat when I saw I was only 1000 places away from getting pushed out of Tier 20 with my dragons and Nino. So I finally broke the emergency glass and deployed my AA armours for a run (ran a team of Draug +10, Sheena +10, Nowi +10 and Flier!Nino—Gwendolyn ain't ready yet and is worth less points than even Tiki, so the trainee dragon stayed on). It was still really annoying, despite now having Armor March on Draug, but finishing the streak basically put me completely out of reach of falling out, so eh.

With the last legendary banner eating nearly 300 orbs and giving me zero Fjorms, I've given up on competing for top 1000 in AA during water season. It just ain't happening. I'll have another crack at things once the legendary season flips again. I think my armours' time is virtually already past for AA, though, since Zelgius, Hardin and Grima laugh in the face of their point values. I guess at least they've more or less secured my ability to stay in Tier 20 (and AA Top 3000) almost indefinitely.

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This week was usual business. Went back to tier 19, got kicked out of the top 5k although it seemed so close this time and got around 3 Def wins (a bit lower than usual but I guess Nephenee isn't that good in a defense team, I'll change her for Karla to see how much of a difference it makes).

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Season 72 Results:

Score: 3,654
Defense: 312
Rank: Tier 20 --> 20

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Switched back to using the Slaying Axe for this week.  Lately I've had good fortune in being able to run a good non-Askr bonus unit, but that ends with this rotation.  As is becoming the norm, my initial run was insufficient, and warranted a do-over.  Alfonse got to inherit a double rally, and we ignored any opponents with score values under 730.  

Arena Assault:

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Rank: 4,436

We'll see how long it takes for people outside the top 3K to get wise and start abusing the new blessing system.

Previous Season Results:

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Season 12: 4,678 | 284 | 25,513
Season 13: 4,740 | 0 | 19,082
Season 14: 4,794 | 289 | 6,331
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1.3.0 Update
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Season 15: 4,820 | 576 | 15 --> 17
Season 16: 4,788 | 568 | 17 --> 16
Season 17: 4,719 | 568 | 16 --> 17
Season 18: 4,776 | 0 | 17 --> 18
Season 19: 4,780 | 0 | 18 --> 17
Season 20: 4,796 | 578 | 17 --> 18
Season 21: 4,806 | 594 | 18 --> 19
Season 22: 4,792 | 560 | 19 --> 18
Season 23: 4,836 | 288 | 18 --> 19
Season 24: 4,828 | 288 | 19 --> 20
Season 25: 4,838 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 26: 4,822 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 27: 4,808 | 580 | 20 -->19
Season 28: 4,792 | 580 | 19 --> 18
Season 29: 4,830 | 582 | 18 --> 19
Season 30: 4,822 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 31: 4,806 | 584 | 20 --> 19
Season 32: 4,820 | 584 | 19 --> 20
Season 33: 4,812 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 34: 4,836 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 35: 4,822 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 36: 4,838 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 37: 4,788 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 38: 4,854 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 39: 4,830 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 40: 4,908 | 0 | 19 --> 20
Season 41: 4,920 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 42: 4,922 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 43: 4,914 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 44: 4,966 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 45: 5,006 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 46: 5,016 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 47: 4,976 | 596 | 20 --> 19
Season 48: 4,972 | 596 | 19 --> 20
Season 49: 4,988 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 50: 4,984 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 51: 5012 | 604 | 20 --> 19
Season 52: 4,990 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 53: 4,848 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 54: 4,994 | 602 | 19 --> 20
Season 55: 5,002 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 56: 5,050 | 606 | 19 --> 20
Season 57: 5,016 | 608 | 20 --> 19
Season 58: 5,014 | 608 | 19 --> 20
Season 59: 5,052 | 608 | 20 --> 20
Season 60: 5,064 | 612 | 20 --> 20
Season 61: 5,066 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 62: 5,088 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 63: 5,100 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 64: 5,070 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 65: 5,068 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 66: 5,086 | 309 | 20 --> 20
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2.5.0 Update
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Season 67: 3,642 | 606 | 20 --> 20
Season 68: 3,648 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 69: 3,646 | 612 | 20 --> 20
Season 70: 3,668 | 604 | 20 --> 20
Season 71: 3,672 | 618 | 20 --> 20

 

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