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Goddammit. For the first time in a long time I fell to the top 3000 group in AA.

I fully built and finished a +10 Wind team because Wind/Fire season is my weakest pairing. For some reason, All of my blessed bow units are Wind/Fire and I only have 4 Sword units in the group so these battles were really stressful.

Unfortunately I waited too long to do my run and I had a death in the 5th battle. It was the boat map, and I probably should have tried to bait them too far despite not having a team that was suited for that so after 2 turns I was in a really tight position. I really had to plan out my actions and use all of my items to get to a safe position, and then fucking galeforce on a Bold Fighter L!Hector caught me off guard after he survived with 1 HP he was able to finish off Alm. The worst part is that I didn't even have to bait him. I was safe and could have easily finished him off on the next Player Phase, but I didn't look at his skillset. Then I had to rush for the last two battles to finish with only 3 minutes left. This shit was stressful.

 

Between this and accidentally promoting one too many Effies, I am down 21,000 feathers, 5 coins, and 5 stones, and that really bugs me. 

Why does the Arena season need to end 8 Hours before the next one begins??

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Back to tier 19 as expected. Got around 5 Def wins this time so I'm happy with that.

On AA, I'm extremely close to top 5k but it's still an uphill battle to get there. 

Next is Fjorm season which means there's going to be a lot of inflation going on. Hopefully it'll be Water season to let me try again for top 3k in AA and if it lasts 2 weeks hopefully stay in tier 20 at least once before arena goes to hell.

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Season 78 Results:

Score: 3,674
Defense: 614
Rank: Tier 20 --> 20

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Running Hinoka again allows Shanna to hit some pretty wild numbers.  While she'll no longer be a bonus unit next week, that doesn't necessarily bring an end to her fun -- Next she'll benefit from Fjorm's blessing boost.  Normally I show the unit stats as they are in my sheets, but I couldn't help embellish a little this time.     

Arena Assault:

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Rank: 3,433

As expected, last week was a bit of a fluke.  I got more down to earth match-ups this time around, and are thus sent back to our usual spot.

Previous Season Results:

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Season 12: 4,678 | 284 | 25,513
Season 13: 4,740 | 0 | 19,082
Season 14: 4,794 | 289 | 6,331
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1.3.0 Update
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Season 15: 4,820 | 576 | 15 --> 17
Season 16: 4,788 | 568 | 17 --> 16
Season 17: 4,719 | 568 | 16 --> 17
Season 18: 4,776 | 0 | 17 --> 18
Season 19: 4,780 | 0 | 18 --> 17
Season 20: 4,796 | 578 | 17 --> 18
Season 21: 4,806 | 594 | 18 --> 19
Season 22: 4,792 | 560 | 19 --> 18
Season 23: 4,836 | 288 | 18 --> 19
Season 24: 4,828 | 288 | 19 --> 20
Season 25: 4,838 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 26: 4,822 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 27: 4,808 | 580 | 20 -->19
Season 28: 4,792 | 580 | 19 --> 18
Season 29: 4,830 | 582 | 18 --> 19
Season 30: 4,822 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 31: 4,806 | 584 | 20 --> 19
Season 32: 4,820 | 584 | 19 --> 20
Season 33: 4,812 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 34: 4,836 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 35: 4,822 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 36: 4,838 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 37: 4,788 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 38: 4,854 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 39: 4,830 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 40: 4,908 | 0 | 19 --> 20
Season 41: 4,920 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 42: 4,922 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 43: 4,914 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 44: 4,966 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 45: 5,006 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 46: 5,016 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 47: 4,976 | 596 | 20 --> 19
Season 48: 4,972 | 596 | 19 --> 20
Season 49: 4,988 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 50: 4,984 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 51: 5012 | 604 | 20 --> 19
Season 52: 4,990 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 53: 4,848 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 54: 4,994 | 602 | 19 --> 20
Season 55: 5,002 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 56: 5,050 | 606 | 19 --> 20
Season 57: 5,016 | 608 | 20 --> 19
Season 58: 5,014 | 608 | 19 --> 20
Season 59: 5,052 | 608 | 20 --> 20
Season 60: 5,064 | 612 | 20 --> 20
Season 61: 5,066 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 62: 5,088 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 63: 5,100 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 64: 5,070 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 65: 5,068 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 66: 5,086 | 309 | 20 --> 20
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2.5.0 Update
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Season 67: 3,642 | 606 | 20 --> 20
Season 68: 3,648 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 69: 3,646 | 612 | 20 --> 20
Season 70: 3,668 | 604 | 20 --> 20
Season 71: 3,672 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 72: 3,654 | 312 | 20 --> 20
Season 73: 3,658 | 307 | 20 --> 20
Season 74: 3,652 | 616 | 20 --> 20
Season 75: 3,654 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 76: 3,654 | 0 | 20 --> 20
Season 77: 3,682 | 616 | 20 --> 20

 

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1 hour ago, Hawk King said:

Then I had to rush for the last two battles to finish with only 3 minutes left.

At least you didn't have the season end in the middle of your 6th round and have your score for the season counted as zero.

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Offense score of 3680 (T20) remains in T20, combining with a defense score of 620 for max rewards.

Teams faced (streak):

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Another week of the Armor core. Fjorm as the next bonus unit gives me a lot of freedom as far as team comp goes, though I'll probably just run my tactics team and let Eirika, L'Arachel, and Myrrh have some fun.

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I managed to stay around the middle of both t20's range and the top 3k AA's range. Took some rerolling of arena matches to get to a safe score, thanks to S Camilla/Anna as my bonus options. RNG really didn't want to give me anything but the lowest score matches in my range most of the time either.

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Well, my score of 3,660 was good enough to stay in Tier 20 last week but not this one so my extended stay in Tier 20 is over. My Camilla Emblem defense team generated two wins at least and I already got my next dumb theme ready.

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Too bad using multiple bonus heroes doesn't do anything I say now, only for the next Arena update to make it so that you have to have your entire defense team be made up of bonus heroes to get the best defense score.

 

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Went ham with my feathers, spending about 150k of them in one go (Added 3 to Nino, 1 to Lilina, 1 to Nowi, 1 to Xander and 1 to Camus). Needed to do so to free up barracks space anyway in order to summon on the legendary banner.

Lilina and Nino are +7 each, but the team still isn't particularly high scoring since Fjorm +0 and Olivia 4*+10 drag them down a fair bit. Still, advanced my personal best from 3560 (which wasn't enough to get into T20 a fortnight ago) to 3574. Let's see the effect of Fjormflation compared to Hectorflation.

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Got my normal arena run done. A score of 3,678 should be more than enough to go back to tier 20.

AA was a pain, though. I just realized that I barely have colorless Wind/Water units and thanks to Fjorm I got to see a glimpse of whale land. A fricken 80 Atk L!Hector is just disgusting. Guess after I'm done with Sheena my next goal is training a good amount of Dazzling healers to cheese those armors.

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Well Mae has already got me my defense win. This is my rest week so I don't have to worry too much score wise. But next week is going to be an issue. Team Mae apparently only sees 700-706 foes. Well at least according to my 6 battles today. Maybe if I toss a blessing on Mae it'll push it up enough?

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Main is now testing All Tactics with Legendary Lyn and Titania. Was thankful to not encounter Legendary Lucina, and steamrolled with Caeda and Fjorm getting all four boosts. First run was badly lowballed at 3,672, I rerolled and turned in 3,698. It looks like I got a defense win already.

Could have sworn the team that broke my Assault streak tonight said it belonged to @Hawk King. (Caeda/Fjorm/Myrrh/Serra). If it was you, hope it makes you feel better about missing the deadline to turn in your Assault last week. If I choke again tomorrow night, I'll just accept my weak score. I'll be leaving for vacation Thursday and coming back Monday night, and I don't need Assault salt during my vacation.

The alt turned in a solid 3,508, which should get it back up to 19 next week. Fjorm and Mae were joined by Brave Roy and Brave Ike with water blessings.

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For last Arena season, I felt like I was cutting it close with my score of 3668, so I did some fishing and managed to snag 4 more points which was a bit more comfortable. Sadly, in AA, I got booted out of the top 3k and ended up at rank 3027. Wow. Oh well. Maybe once I build up another non-mage 5*+10, I'll have a bit more luck getting better match-ups. 

This season, I actually get to run a full team of 5*+10 characters: Lucius, Raven, Merric, and Mae. The difference in my match-ups wasn't that drastic. While running Lyon last season, I got more matches worth less than 730 points. This time, all of my matches are 730+, but if I want to stay in tier 20 during Fjorm season, I've still got to fish for better matches. Oddly enough, I think my scoring range was around 730 to 742, so I tried to pick matches only worth 736 and above. Ended up with 3694 as a new high score. I kind of wish the new Arena changes were already in play since I doubt I'll have a bonus unit as good as Mae for next season unless I get lucky. XD 

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9 minutes ago, Rafiel's Aria said:

For last Arena season, I felt like I was cutting it close with my score of 3668, so I did some fishing and managed to snag 4 more points which was a bit more comfortable. Sadly, in AA, I got booted out of the top 3k and ended up at rank 3027. Wow. Oh well. Maybe once I build up another non-mage 5*+10, I'll have a bit more luck getting better match-ups. 

This season, I actually get to run a full team of 5*+10 characters: Lucius, Raven, Merric, and Mae. The difference in my match-ups wasn't that drastic. While running Lyon last season, I got more matches worth less than 730 points. This time, all of my matches are 730+, but if I want to stay in tier 20 during Fjorm season, I've still got to fish for better matches. Oddly enough, I think my scoring range was around 730 to 742, so I tried to pick matches only worth 736 and above. Ended up with 3694 as a new high score. I kind of wish the new Arena changes were already in play since I doubt I'll have a bonus unit as good as Mae for next season unless I get lucky. XD 

That was due to L!Hector. Since its now wind and water season the threshold to stay in 3k should be a bit easier to come by, considering most of the water and wind season legendarys are ranged units

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1 hour ago, Usana said:

Well Mae has already got me my defense win. This is my rest week so I don't have to worry too much score wise. But next week is going to be an issue. Team Mae apparently only sees 700-706 foes. Well at least according to my 6 battles today. Maybe if I toss a blessing on Mae it'll push it up enough?

Throwing on a blessing onto one unit increases your score by exactly two points per battle.

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1 minute ago, Hilda said:

That was due to L!Hector. Since its now wind and water season the threshold to stay in 3k should be a bit easier to come by, considering most of the water and wind season legendarys are ranged units

I actually haven't been able to stay in the top 3k for the past few seasons, even prior to Hector. For some reason, prior to Arena changes, I was able to consistently get matches in my upper scoring range (738-742) which was more than enough to stay. But for some reason, RNG likes to give me one or two high-scoring matches...followed by a ton of 730-732 which doesn't cut it. I've done my best to compensate but handing out more and more blessings (though I'm still trying to be pretty frugal). I usually manage to use at least 14 blessed heroes each time around depending on the teams I'm up against. 

I'm thinking this season will be a little better. Wind and Water heroes are my strongest, so I'm pushing to use 7 full teams of blessed heroes this time around to hopefully fix my score. Staying in the top 3k isn't a huge priority for me. But it is nice when it does happen. XD

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Swallowed my pride and did a secondrun to turn in 5,165 in Assault. Now my Assault runs will be three-and-done. Actually, if you take and then surrender the next round, you still give them the win, right? If so, I'll be giving out wins that way.

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16 minutes ago, Chrom-ulent said:

Swallowed my pride and did a secondrun to turn in 5,165 in Assault. Now my Assault runs will be three-and-done. Actually, if you take and then surrender the next round, you still give them the win, right? If so, I'll be giving out wins that way.

Yeah, it's a nice little bonus for your opponent at no cost, so I try to remember to do it too. Only really helps them if they otherwise fail to get a defense win that week though as it's only worth half points to them.

EDIT: Huh, based on the evidence below it's worth full points. Learned something new.

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On 7/30/2018 at 9:00 PM, Ice Dragon said:

At least you didn't have the season end in the middle of your 6th round and have your score for the season counted as zero.

Ouch, I always do single unit 7 battle runs every day so I don't ever need to worry about a score of 0, but it is nice to know that some people procrastinate more than I do.

3 hours ago, Chrom-ulent said:

Could have sworn the team that broke my Assault streak tonight said it belonged to @Hawk King. (Caeda/Fjorm/Myrrh/Serra). If it was you, hope it makes you feel better about missing the deadline to turn in your Assault last week.

Haha, that would be a yes.

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How did the fight go? What about them gave you trouble exactly? I figured on AA a counter picked team would have no trouble.

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I'm actually really lazy for Assault. I just put together seven decently synergetic teams, only swapping in if I see any major threats (dragons, or armors with fighter skills), at which point I drop in my counterpicks. I thought my Flying Tiki could handle your Myrrh, but she came up short, and I let you on the defense tiles in my sloppy play, further screwing myself over.

I gave up on the daily 100 feathers today, because I saw both Camilla Emblem and Tiki Emblem that deserved a defense win.

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Got a new personal highscore in AA: 5,121. 

I don't expect it enough for me to reach top 5k again, even if last week (5,117) got me a surprisingly high rank (5,912). 

Normal Arena is just demotion to tier 19 this week, but it was fun to play Walhart with boosted stats. 

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3574 is about to get kicked out of the T20 promotion spots, unbelievable. The last time I fell short a fortnight ago, 3562 would have been enough. 13311/13532.

Promoting the 3* Nino we just got from the quest in a bid to improve at least a tiny bit.

 

EDIT: Farmed for 716 plus and ended with 3588, which is 10432/13564. Blown away my old record by 28 points, so if this isn't enough, I give up forever.

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