Falcom Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Has the whole Renewal+Fury combo been mentioned/talked about yet? If not, which character would benefit from it the most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Falcom said: Has the whole Renewal+Fury combo been mentioned/talked about yet? If not, which character would benefit from it the most? TBH this is from the mindset of someone who prioritizes thriftiness/efficiency, but I'd say anyone who already has one of those skills and has the other slot empty would be pretty good for that. Falchion users in particular seem like they'd benefit from that a fair bit (though Marth might miss Escape Route that way). Eldigan would definitley love to have Renewal, I would think, tanky as he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, BANRYU said: TBH this is from the mindset of someone who prioritizes thriftiness/efficiency, but I'd say anyone who already has one of those skills and has the other slot empty would be pretty good for that. Falchion users in particular seem like they'd benefit from that a fair bit (though Marth might miss Escape Route that way). Eldigan would definitley love to have Renewal, I would think, tanky as he is. Sire's thread lists some skill combinations, that might be a good read if you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Does anyone know if Distant Counter/Close Counter work the same when inherited? I'm hoping an OG Roy build will be viable. This is what I'm thinking so far: Roy w/ Binding Blade Push Sol A - Distant Counter B - Renewal 3 C - ?, Seal Def 3 will probably be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Suichimo said: Does anyone know if Distant Counter/Close Counter work the same when inherited? What do you mean “the same?” It works on Roy like it worked on Hector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Man Arena Cavquest is really making me want to put Swordbreaker on Reinhardt is this a good idea or should i go with a blue breaker instead for more coverage Edited March 17, 2017 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said: Man Arena Cavquest is really making me want to put Swordbreaker on Reinhardt is this a good idea or should i go with a blue breaker instead for more coverage 1st ask yourself while looking in mirror "Is that cavalier quest really worth it?" 2nd Doesn't Reinhardt get dire thunder? So Swordbreaker is kind of useless on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMT4ever Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, eclipse said: - Depends on what you're doing with Lucina - I'm not a fan of Vantage on Julia, since she shouldn't be taking damage in the first place. However, if she's regular Taco bait, you can either put a Seal skill on her, or something like Escape Route (bye Cecilia). -Lucina's meant for ORKOs on my phase, hence Darting Blow. The main issue with Desperation is that it only activates below 75% HP, and Lucina normally doesn't take a hit before I'm ready to sweep the enemy in one turn. Would Vantage 3 work well on her instead? -Julia's actually the one I normally use to kill Tacomeat since she can survive one hit from him and can actually counterattack unlike Femui or Lucina. With Dragon Fang she even OHKOs him. I'm considering Vantage on her because mine is +Spd/-HP, which combined with Spd+3 from a 4* Fir gives her 33 Speed. Now, excluding buffs, the only ranged units that can guaranteed ORKO her that I see in the Arena with any regularity are Klein and Kagero, both of whom can be wrecked by Lucina. Situationally we have attacking Tharjas, which Vantage can also handle if I get the first hit in. If I was going to put a Seal skill on Julia, which would you recommend? I have both Raigh and Viron for either Seal Res or Seal Speed, both of which synergize well with Femui. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: What do you mean “the same?” It works on Roy like it worked on Hector. Solved my own question. Takumi can't pass Close Counter to non-ranged characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Arcanite said: 1st ask yourself while looking in mirror "Is that cavalier quest really worth it?" 2nd Doesn't Reinhardt get dire thunder? So Swordbreaker is kind of useless on him. 3 orbs when you're f2p, man it's moreso for him to not get doubled by every sword ever if he steps in their range and can't get danced due to cavquest In more seriousness, though, what would be a good B slot for Rein? I feel he doesn't really get to use Vantage much because he's either alive or dead. I can't really get him wary fighter either, which would be glorious, but alas. Edited March 17, 2017 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Suichimo said: Solved my own question. Takumi can't pass Close Counter to non-ranged characters. Imagine Mages with close counter, though. Merric and Odin are both pretty tanky as I recall... that could be... yikes. So, close/distant counter are basically the Awakening Galeforce and Fates damage-stacking of this game huh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, BANRYU said: Imagine Mages with close counter, though. Merric and Odin are both pretty tanky as I recall... that could be... yikes. So, close/distant counter are basically the Awakening Galeforce and Fates damage-stacking of this game huh lol The funny thing is that 1-2 range is quite common in other FE games, and really, it's plenty busted in them as well; it just gets viewed as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, BANRYU said: Imagine Mages with close counter, though. Merric and Odin are both pretty tanky as I recall... that could be... yikes. So, close/distant counter are basically the Awakening Galeforce and Fates damage-stacking of this game huh lol Oh yeah. The only limiting factor, for now, is that only Hector and Takumi can provide those skills 2 minutes ago, Othin said: The funny thing is that 1-2 range is quite common in other FE games, and really, it's plenty busted in them as well; it just gets viewed as normal. The big difference is that you're orko'ing at a much higher rate here, than in the main series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said: 3 orbs when you're f2p, man it's moreso for him to not get doubled by every sword ever if he steps in their range and can't get danced due to cavquest In more seriousness, though, what would be a good B slot for Rein? I feel he doesn't really get to use Vantage much because he's either alive or dead. I can't really get him wary fighter either, which would be glorious, but alas. Escape route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, Arcanite said: Escape route? Actually can you do an action right after escape route? bc I gave him reposition and this would be hilarious if I can pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, Thor Odinson said: Actually can you do an action right after escape route? bc I gave him reposition and this would be hilarious if I can pull it off. Yup. You can act right after teleporting via either Escape Route or Wings of Mercy. It just uses up your movement for that turn and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, MaskedAmpharos said: Yup. You can act right after teleporting via either Escape Route or Wings of Mercy. It just uses up your movement for that turn and nothing else. Aw yes I'm gonna do this once Cecilia's free maps show up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiro Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) should i make any adjustments? maybe put drag back on her as a support skill in case i have a dancer for offense as a means to retreat safely? Edited March 17, 2017 by Shiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTuckingFypo Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I have an idea... renewal on Camilla from an extra Fae? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Argyle Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 How does a Linde with bowbreaker 2 sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Shiro said: should i make any adjustments? maybe put drag back on her as a support skill in case i have a dancer for offense as a means to retreat safely? *edit: snip image* Enough Catrias to +7, not enough fodder to level 3 Savage Blow. I'm mildly triggered right now. My biggest question is... do you really NEED 44 speed? That's a ridiculously high speed tier, surely you can run a Brave Lance or something, drop to 39 (or 40 with L&D 3) and still double everything you need to double while opening up some more kill potential due to quadruples (and the fact that you hit twice before the counter attack). BLance+ is bad for BST, of course, but apparently weapons won't count BST wise in April. I mean, I'm pretty sure speed demons like Linde etc. still die to a brave lance double even though they're too fast to quadruple. The draw back + dancer cheese sounds interesting, since that gets you out of range of even 2 range units behind the guy you just murdered---if you can get +4 attack somewhere else, or don't need it for anything specific, I say go for it. (I have a feeling AI will do idiotic things with it on defense, though : /) Edited March 17, 2017 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheTuckingFypo said: I have an idea... renewal on Camilla from an extra Fae? You'd think that someone WITH Camilla could say whether or not this is a good idea. . .except I can't. I'd rather give Renewal to a tankier character - not that she's necessarily bad with it, but how often does she take damage? 15 minutes ago, Sable Argyle said: How does a Linde with bowbreaker 2 sound? Terrible. But that's because I'm overly fond of my archers! Joking aside, I don't think this is a good idea. The only way a bow user will double her is if they have the Brave Bow, it's a +Spd Rebecca, or Setsuna with Darting Blow. Of these, Bowbreaker doesn't stop Braves from doubling due to weapon effect, and the last two aren't exactly common. She's also OHKO'd by a +Atk Takumi. I'd look into something like Wings of Mercy or Vantage, since the only thing worse than Linde is a Linde who can get the jump on you. Edited March 17, 2017 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Argyle Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, eclipse said: Joking aside, I don't think this is a good idea. The only way a bow user will double her is if they have the Brave Bow, it's a +Spd Rebecca, or Setsuna with Darting Blow. Of these, Bowbreaker doesn't stop Braves from doubling due to weapon effect, and the last two aren't exactly common. She's also OHKO'd by a +Atk Takumi. I'd look into something like Wings of Mercy or Vantage, since the only thing worse than Linde is a Linde who can get the jump on you. Fair enough, I got a spare Setsuna and I'm trying to figure out where I wanna drop her bowbreaker, Julia maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sable Argyle said: Fair enough, I got a spare Setsuna and I'm trying to figure out where I wanna drop her bowbreaker, Julia maybe? Someone that attacks at two range and doesn't mind eating a bow. Who this is depends on your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, Sable Argyle said: Fair enough, I got a spare Setsuna and I'm trying to figure out where I wanna drop her bowbreaker, Julia maybe? Julia's a good choice imo. Takumi just barely misses the OHKO (unless buffed via aura or merge bonus) while Julia normally wouldn't be able to double him. So it gives you a way to deal with Takumi if you don't already have a good solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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