Emperor Hardin Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm curious if the localizers will keep it being fighter as its clearly not the same class as the axe wielding fighters in every other game? Personally I'd prefer it if they changed it like they changed thief to brigand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) I'm pretty sure they localized it as Fighter. EDIT: Yep it has been. Spoiler Edited March 23, 2017 by Azz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Azz said: I'm pretty sure they localized it as Fighter. Video or screenshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said: Video or screenshot? I edited my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slumber Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 This is like Ike being a Ranger, despite not being on a horse or wielding a bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armaada J Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 So does this mean that Gaiden not having any playable Axe wielders will carry over into Echoes as well? I know that it technically doesn't matter since there's no weapon triangle, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Azz said: I edited my post. Thanks. 1 minute ago, Forged Thoron said: So does this mean that Gaiden not having any playable Axe wielders will carry over into Echoes as well? I know that it technically doesn't matter since there's no weapon triangle, but still. Looks like it, unless a brigand is playable either as a main character or an Amiibo extra like monsters. Paladins are confirmed as mono weapon as well it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm sort of disappointed Alm won't be able to become a Dread Fighter like in Awakening. Man, I liked his portrayal there, so I hope he keeps at least parts of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrimsonflash Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Slumber said: This is like Ike being a Ranger, despite not being on a horse or wielding a bow. I don't think that it's quite the same with Ike because Ranger has always been a filler class for Mercenaries and Archers when the classes branched off, kind of like how the Great Knight has been a filler class for Cavaliers and Knights. With Fighter, it has always been a constant in the series, so giving it as a unique class does feel kinda strange. It's like if Lyn came as a Myrmidon and there were no other Myrmidons in Blazing Blade. Edited March 23, 2017 by thecrimsonflash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, thecrimsonflash said: I don't think that it's quite the same with Ike because Ranger has always been a filler class for Mercenaries and Archers when the classes branched off, kind of like how the Great Knight has been a filler class for Cavaliers and Knights. With Fighter, it has always been a constant in the series, so giving it as a unique class does feel kinda strange. It's like if Lyn came as a Myrmidon and there were no other Myrmidons in the game. Lyn is at least like a Myrmidon, Alm is nothing like a fighter, so I'm scratching my head at the localizers? They'd change thief to outlaw, but keep the fast, accurate, and sword wielding Alm a fighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, Emperor Hardin said: Lyn is at least like a Myrmidon, Alm is nothing like a fighter, so I'm scratching my head at the localizers? They'd change thief to outlaw, but keep the fast, accurate, and sword wielding Alm a fighter? there are no "fighter" class characters in this game alm is a person who fights, so he is a fighter i think that's simple enough could've given him a more interesting class name but I don't see anything really wrong with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, unique said: there are no "fighter" class characters in this game alm is a person who fights, so he is a fighter i think that's simple enough could've given him a more interesting class name but I don't see anything really wrong with it Well there were no thief classes outside of the thief class in Fates, the localizers still changed it to outlaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said: Well there were no thief classes outside of the thief class in Fates, the localizers still changed it to outlaw. that's likely due to the different localization teams though this one is also a remake of a game where the same name was used for the class so it makes sense to be keeping it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, unique said: that's likely due to the different localization teams though this one is also a remake of a game where the same name was used for the class so it makes sense to be keeping it That would make the most sense. I understand why the Japanese writers kept the name fighter, but Gaiden never reached US shores outside of fan translated roms. Edited March 24, 2017 by Emperor Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iridium Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, thecrimsonflash said: I don't think that it's quite the same with Ike because Ranger has always been a filler class for Mercenaries and Archers when the classes branched off, kind of like how the Great Knight has been a filler class for Cavaliers and Knights. With Fighter, it has always been a constant in the series, so giving it as a unique class does feel kinda strange. It wasn't necessarily a constant in Gaiden. Once upon a time -- and Heroes actually has kinda returned to this -- "Fighter" was essentially a broad category referring to unmounted weapon users. Compare Genealogy, where we had "Sword Fighter" (which has gradually shifted into Mercenary and Myrmidon), "Bow Fighter" (which eventually returned to Archer), "Thief Fighter" (which essentially was replaced by Rogue), "Mage Fighter" (which doesn't really have a true equivalent, although Grandmaster and Priestess are similar), and of course "Axe Fighter" which ended up retaining the name as the Fighter classes all got shunted into more proper lines. Heroes actually continues this old tradition, with generics referred to as "Sword/Lance/Axe Fighter", It's also worth mentioning that "Great Knight" actually has two identities: it does, yes, serve as the medium between Paladin and General. But it also fulfills the role of 'Axe Paladin' in the Tellius/Jugdral games that split certain classes by weapon types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Leu Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It reminds me of Path of Radiance, in the French version, Ike's base class was Rodeur, which basically translate to 'Ranger'. Fun time ! I'm half disapointed, half pleased, because Fighter so simple... but I think about the previous Fighters class. 13 hours ago, Thane said: I'm sort of disappointed Alm won't be able to become a Dread Fighter like in Awakening. Man, I liked his portrayal there, so I hope he keeps at least parts of it. Wouldn't want to have that good of class yet :p Though I wouldn't mind if he promoted into that. Plus I just remembered, isn't Dread Fighter the badass class that came from Gaiden, who can wield swords, axes, spears and bows ? The one the villagers could eventually promote to and then return back to Villager to create a promotions loop ? It also have a badass sprite. Since I spoke about the French version: In Awakening, Dread Fighter was localized as 'Heros Mage' which translate into... Hero mage ! Gee, I'm such a genius. While in Fates, Dread Fighter was localized as Terreur, which means Terror, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, B.Leu said: Plus I just remembered, isn't Dread Fighter the badass class that came from Gaiden, who can wield swords, axes, spears and bows ? The one the villagers could eventually promote to and then return back to Villager to create a promotions loop ? It also have a badass sprite. dread fighter uses only swords, so no you might be thinking of master knight from fe4 the only non-lord class that has more than one type of attack in gaiden is priestess Edited March 24, 2017 by unique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, unique said: dread fighter uses only swords, so no you might be thinking of master knight from fe4 the only non-lord class that has more than one type of attack in gaiden is priestess Actually when promoted Alm could use Bows alongside Swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troykv Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Azz said: Actually when promoted Alm could use Bows alongside Swords. non-lord. Priestess is accesible for the female mages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Troykv said: non-lord. Priestess is accesible for the female mages. Oh whoops, I didn't see non-lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolvir Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 16 hours ago, Slumber said: This is like Ike being a Ranger, despite not being on a horse or wielding a bow. Its weird for me, I hear Ranger I think D&D. So when his class was a Ranger when I first played, I thought he was going to have bow use as well and possibly some kind of magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slumber Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 16 hours ago, thecrimsonflash said: I don't think that it's quite the same with Ike because Ranger has always been a filler class for Mercenaries and Archers when the classes branched off, kind of like how the Great Knight has been a filler class for Cavaliers and Knights. With Fighter, it has always been a constant in the series, so giving it as a unique class does feel kinda strange. It's like if Lyn came as a Myrmidon and there were no other Myrmidons in Blazing Blade. You have to remember that Gaiden was the second game in the franchise. Coincidentally, Alm was a "Fighter" only one game after Fighters were introduced, and Ike was a "Ranger" only one game after Rangers were introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Slumber said: You have to remember that Gaiden was the second game in the franchise. Coincidentally, Alm was a "Fighter" only one game after Fighters were introduced, and Ike was a "Ranger" only one game after Rangers were introduced. At that point its understandable, they'd re-use the name fighter and it makes sense for the remake to keep the names from the original release. I find it really odd that the localization would keep the Alm's class as "Fighter" though when they seem like they want to have consistent class names across the series. Note all the renamed classes in Fates like Sword Saint got localized as normal class names like Swordmaster. Axe Fighter also lost the axe in its name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Emperor Hardin said: At that point its understandable, they'd re-use the name fighter and it makes sense for the remake to keep the names from the original release. I find it really odd that the localization would keep the Alm's class as "Fighter" though when they seem like they want to have consistent class names across the series. Note all the renamed classes in Fates like Sword Saint got localized as normal class names like Swordmaster. Axe Fighter also lost the axe in its name. It's 8-4 doing things, while Fates was NOA. That explains most method differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wow, Treehouse wasn't given this game? That might be for the best considering some psychopaths would avoid the game after their localization job on Fates got so much hate. And, hold up, I thought Alm did promote into a Dread Fighter much like Celica does to Princess. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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