Raven Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Elbert: the most useless FE father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Chao Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Sunwoo said: Personally, I think PoR Ike should have decent resistance. He did have a ridiculous 40% resistance growth in that game. He needs some stats to be bad so he isn't 100% broken. Which ones do you suggest if not something like Res? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Mark, the player-insert tactician in FE7, was also praised a ton by the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Raven said: Elbert: the most useless FE father. Nah, at least he freed Ninian and Nils iirc, which delayed Nergal's ability to open the gate, and stabbed Nergal while he was dying. Cornelius, meanwhile... I can't remember anything he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Suichimo said: It's been a while since I've played through FE6, Hard Mode is evil, but I can't remember him ever just going against his advisors without good reason. Actually, I meant all the times he went against his advisors he was right, and of course he had his reasons. But that only proves my point in him being to perfect. At least Marth and Ike often get told of by their advisors at first, which gives you the feeling they aren't perfect leaders from the start, but are growing into the role. Again, I'm not saying Roy is a bad character, just that I don't like this type of character. Also, in Ike's stats: I think they will make him a somewhat bulky sword unit, with not bad speed, but not great speed either. It doesn't fit his PoR growths to much, but considering how they handled him in Smash, I'm pretty certain about this (he'll obviously have good attack, because Ike needs to be OP). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) What about Ephraim and Eirika's dad? He only exists for a whole prologue. lol And I can't even remember his name. EDIT: Wait, it was Fado, right? Edited April 25, 2017 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Hey, don't be crapping on Elbert now. Guy had his soul ripped out of him and still managed to land a blow that crippled Nergal into needing to hide for over half the game. It's not his fault his efforts were then wasted by Athos making the Lords all piss around in the Bern countryside, allowing Nergal to fully heal and become more than even Athos could handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Reminder that Ephraim wasn't slow as bricks in SS... Their performance in their own game doesn't matter that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anacybele said: What about Ephraim and Eirika's dad? He only exists for a whole prologue. lol And I can't even remember his name. EDIT: Wait, it was Fado, right? It was indeed Fado. I guess he at least hid the sacred stone so Lyon couldn't crush it after taking over Renais? Well, at least not until Erika gave it to the Demon king, because why not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bartozio said: It was indeed Fado. I guess he at least hid the sacred stone so Lyon couldn't crush it after taking over Renais? Well, at least not until Erika gave it to the Demon king, because why not... That's why Eirika is the biggest idiot in the series to me. She seemed unrealistically naive and dumb. If memory serves, she also nearly falls into a big trap before that, until Seth sniffs it out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Raven said: Elbert: the most useless FE father. 8 minutes ago, Anacybele said: What about Ephraim and Eirika's dad? He only exists for a whole prologue. lol And I can't even remember his name. EDIT: Wait, it was Fado, right? They can't all be the awesomeness that is Vylon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okigen Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 A dumb question coz I never played Telius. Who's Soren? He looks kinda cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, OKigen said: A dumb question coz I never played Telius. Who's Soren? He looks kinda cute. A kid Ike saved a while back, he's really cold and snarky unless you happen to be named Ike. He works as the Griel Merc's tactician. There's more but it veers into spoiler territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, Cute Chao said: He needs some stats to be bad so he isn't 100% broken. Which ones do you suggest if not something like Res? Defense and HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anacybele said: I've never heard of NSider, so no. And around here on SF, I see plenty of story reasons being brought up for liking Ike. Also in the Famitsu poll, one of the most common reasons people listed for voting Ike was that he stood out among the other lords for being a commoner, which is more story than gameplay. Imo, not to the same degree as Ike. Ike is in a similar situation. Greil was killed, and before he died, he asked Ike to lead the company. Ike was basically still learning, but got thrust into this position and the biggest job the Greil Mercs ever had to take in helping Elincia. But despite the character's age, it makes it harder for me to take them seriously if they're 15 as apposed to 17-18+. NSider ran from about 2003-2007. It was awesome and it's how I ended up here, since FESS had a strong following there and SF took in us FESS guys when it shut down. You're thinking of 15 year olds like they are today. Roy was extremely disciplined having been the understudy of people like Hector, Cecilia, and Percival. He and Lilina were basically sent around Lycia for training. 2 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Roy's mother is confirmed dead. Which means he only has a living father. So the only really unique plot point is that Roy is the only lord whose dad survives the entire game (because Greil, Elbert, Vylon, and Sigurd sure as hell don't). Really? First time I've heard that. Where did they say it? Poor Ninian. 12 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Reminder that Ephraim wasn't slow as bricks in SS... Their performance in their own game doesn't matter that much. Dat speed cap tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okigen Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Defense and HP. Agreed. I'm just so fed up with of low res melee. Let's have a change. I actually wouldnt mind if he has low attack and high def/res, since his portrait looks rather tanky :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Suichimo said: Really? First time I've heard that. Where did they say it? Poor Ninian. I forget where exactly it was mentioned. I do believe both Roy and Lilina's mothers were dead by the extended epilogue in FE7. 5 minutes ago, Sunwoo said: Defense and HP. 1 HP 52 Atk 52 Spd 0 Def 52 Res Sound a'right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Ice Dragon said: 1 HP 52 Atk 52 Spd 0 Def 52 Res Sound a'right? Sure, let's go with that XD It'd certainly make him an ... interesting unit for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruruo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: I forget where exactly it was mentioned. I do believe both Roy and Lilina's mothers were dead by the extended epilogue in FE7. 1 HP 52 Atk 52 Spd 0 Def 52 Res Sound a'right? Perfect, absolute perfection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okigen Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: 1 HP 52 Atk 52 Spd 0 Def 52 Res Sound a'right? This is awesome, Anna please make this happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, Anacybele said: What about Ephraim and Eirika's dad? He only exists for a whole prologue. lol And I can't even remember his name. EDIT: Wait, it was Fado, right? The guy pretty much dies right at the start of the game, which is sad because I liked his design and would've liked to see more of him in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Malign Knight Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Reminder that Ephraim wasn't slow as bricks in SS... Their performance in their own game doesn't matter that much. But Ephraim has low cap in speed, which hurts his performance in the post-game. 23 minutes ago, Bartozio said: It was indeed Fado. I guess he at least hid the sacred stone so Lyon couldn't crush it after taking over Renais? Well, at least not until Erika gave it to the Demon king, because why not... And she gets punished for it. Plus, Erika is extremely naive and at that point of the game, she was so desperate that she could have done anything to save her friend 7 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: 1 HP 52 Atk 52 Spd 0 Def 52 Res Sound a'right? Well...at least he would be a decent magic tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero1k Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Malign Knight said: Well...at least he would be a decent magic tank? A +Atk 5* Lilina would be the only mage capable of damaging him unbuffed Edit: Ursula, Linde and Nowi would too. Edited April 25, 2017 by Zero1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, Suichimo said: You're thinking of 15 year olds like they are today. Roy was extremely disciplined having been the understudy of people like Hector, Cecilia, and Percival. He and Lilina were basically sent around Lycia for training. ...Uh, what? No, I'm not. Real life 15 year olds have nothing to do with it. I don't know how many act today since I only ever knew one and that was my brother before he fucking took his own life. Though realistically, adults are given leadership positions much more often than kids, so that is a bit of a factor here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Eirika actually has reason to be naive as well -- she's a sheltered princess who's experiencing the hardships of war for the first time. She wants to believe that her dear friend can still be saved, and she gives in to a moment of weakness. And nearly dooms the world for it. Yeah, it wasn't a smart thing to do, but she made a mistake and she learned from it. Her mistake isn't glossed over either; Eirika feels the impact of what she has done and how Lyon is truly gone. L'Arachel doesn't tell her that "it's all right you made a mistake" either, but encourages Eirika to be strong and to be able to do what is right. This is, of course, in stark contrast to someone like Corrin who is coddled and told his naivety is okay. Heck, even Ike is a bit naive in aspects such as noble culture. But apparently his naivety to nobility is sometimes presented as a good thing because it makes him all that much of a "moral" person. Or something. Even if people don't like Eirika's naivety, at least it's written properly and not glossed over and not just made to be an endearing part of her. It's something that causes her to make mistakes because she really doesn't know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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