Fate/Grand Order General

[MrSmokestack]

Day 6 was the shortest and simplest clear, but wow the RNG really hated me doing this one. I had to reset twice because the Wyverns kept critting Dante and Tamamo every chance they got.

[N30]

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@YotsuMaboroshi and @Czarpy the Fate/Extella materials confirm very explicitly that Romulus IS a Top Servant in the Moon Cell. And I think either on the same page or a page or so before it (don't remember) that Robin Hood was apart of Tamamo's Faction as her jester. Poor guy can't seem to catch a break

If Arthur can be Grand Saber (implied in his trial quest), then I don't see why Artoria can't be. iirc her Excalibur can reach Anti-Alien or w/e (might've been some fanon though) when summoned under the correct container.

But back onto Romulus. The Devs and Nasu admitted that he should've been the final boss of Septem, and at least deserved to be a 4*. Let's look at his lore shall we.

First his parameters:

STR: B
END: A
AGI: A
MANA: C
LCK: B
NP: A++

Already he's looking like a goddamned powerhouse. But, parameters aren't eveything - let's look at his kit lorewise.

Magic Resistance B (Class Skill)
Imperial Privelge EX
Septem Colles A
Natural Body C

Magic Resistance Rank B means that even high level magic shit isn't really going to scratch the guy at all. Read: No Modern Mage could damage him magically. Wonderful.
At Rank C, Natural Body allows Romulus to temporarily tank up his Strength, and to always keep his build. A ranked Strength is to NOT be trifled with.
Septem Colles allows him to grant blessings to those he recognizes as his "children." Which manifested as a Guts and Buster buff in FGO. 

And the big one, Imperial Privelge EX. "Imperial Privelge is an ability that, due to the insistence of the owner, Skills that are essentially impossible to possess can be obtained for a short period of time. In cases when the Rank is А or above, even the "burden to the body" can be acquired" (From the Fate/EXTRA materials)
"The divine ancestor is almighty. For Romulus, his relevant Skills are Riding, swordsmanship, fine arts, Charisma, Military Tactics, and a truly diverse set of other things. Having this Skill, Romulus has personally sealed his naturally high ranked Divinity" -FGO Material I
This skill is VERY broken. He can basically get any skill he wants, and unlike Nero he won't be forced out of it due to some damned Migraine.

But, what also makes a servant is his/her/their Noble Phantasm(s). Let's see what he has.
Magna Voluisse Magnum - All Things Lead to My Spear. Rank: A++, Anti-Army. Range: 1-99 (max targets is 900 people)
"Its power as a Noble Phantasm endows it with the ability to manipulate plants, and the calling of its True Name causes it to undergo a great transformation into a large tree to create the "past/present/future appearance of the imperial capital of Rome."  It washes away the target with a torrent of violent waves, a mass weapon Rome, the ever growing tree sprouting from the earth" -FGO Profile for Romulus (a combination of Bond level 4 and 5. It basically represents Yggdrasil itself

Also, it's Rhongomyniad's explicit equal, as a Spear of the Beginning contrasting Rhon's Spear of the End. 

Moles Necessrie - My Love Reaches All. Rank: B, Barrier, Range 1-40 (max targets is 100 people).
"...is the legend in which Romulus killed his beloved brother Remus, manifested as a bloodsoaked rampart of love. It is a Bounded Field Noble Phantasm which protects the space isolated by the walls. The fortress walls instantly rise from the earth, so the summoning of the field can be positioned to cleave targets like a guillotine."
Rather effective barrier to say the least.

TL;DR Imperial Privilege and Magna Voluisse Magnum, along with his parameters ALONE makes him a Top Servant. Everything else just solidifies just a little more.
He deserved better than Septem.

 

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

If you want to see just how broken Romulus really could be go to his Interlude. Because its actually kinda dumb for how chill the Interlude is

That said about grand servant

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The Artoria and Grand one is common speculation because Artoria is Artoria. Shes a bit spotty if we took Grands specification of "strongest of their age" literally though but theres no basis for it in canon as of now iirc

 

 

Isnt Solomon actually straight up a Grand? 

 

[Emeraldfox]

The wyverns were the worst part of the sixth gate. I tried to insta kill the boss wyvern, that failed. I used two seals to keep Edmond healthy going into the fight with Jeanne and Shiro because he was getting slapped around.

[MacLovin]

46 minutes ago, N30 said:

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@YotsuMaboroshi and @Czarpy the Fate/Extella materials confirm very explicitly that Romulus IS a Top Servant in the Moon Cell. And I think either on the same page or a page or so before it (don't remember) that Robin Hood was apart of Tamamo's Faction as her jester. Poor guy can't seem to catch a break

If Arthur can be Grand Saber (implied in his trial quest), then I don't see why Artoria can't be. iirc her Excalibur can reach Anti-Alien or w/e (might've been some fanon though) when summoned under the correct container.

But back onto Romulus. The Devs and Nasu admitted that he should've been the final boss of Septem, and at least deserved to be a 4*. Let's look at his lore shall we.

First his parameters:

STR: B
END: A
AGI: A
MANA: C
LCK: B
NP: A++

Already he's looking like a goddamned powerhouse. But, parameters aren't eveything - let's look at his kit lorewise.

Magic Resistance B (Class Skill)
Imperial Privelge EX
Septem Colles A
Natural Body C

Magic Resistance Rank B means that even high level magic shit isn't really going to scratch the guy at all. Read: No Modern Mage could damage him magically. Wonderful.
At Rank C, Natural Body allows Romulus to temporarily tank up his Strength, and to always keep his build. A ranked Strength is to NOT be trifled with.
Septem Colles allows him to grant blessings to those he recognizes as his "children." Which manifested as a Guts and Buster buff in FGO. 

And the big one, Imperial Privelge EX. "Imperial Privelge is an ability that, due to the insistence of the owner, Skills that are essentially impossible to possess can be obtained for a short period of time. In cases when the Rank is А or above, even the "burden to the body" can be acquired" (From the Fate/EXTRA materials)
"The divine ancestor is almighty. For Romulus, his relevant Skills are Riding, swordsmanship, fine arts, Charisma, Military Tactics, and a truly diverse set of other things. Having this Skill, Romulus has personally sealed his naturally high ranked Divinity" -FGO Material I
This skill is VERY broken. He can basically get any skill he wants, and unlike Nero he won't be forced out of it due to some damned Migraine.

But, what also makes a servant is his/her/their Noble Phantasm(s). Let's see what he has.
Magna Voluisse Magnum - All Things Lead to My Spear. Rank: A++, Anti-Army. Range: 1-99 (max targets is 900 people)
"Its power as a Noble Phantasm endows it with the ability to manipulate plants, and the calling of its True Name causes it to undergo a great transformation into a large tree to create the "past/present/future appearance of the imperial capital of Rome."  It washes away the target with a torrent of violent waves, a mass weapon Rome, the ever growing tree sprouting from the earth" -FGO Profile for Romulus (a combination of Bond level 4 and 5. It basically represents Yggdrasil itself

Also, it's Rhongomyniad's explicit equal, as a Spear of the Beginning contrasting Rhon's Spear of the End. 

Moles Necessrie - My Love Reaches All. Rank: B, Barrier, Range 1-40 (max targets is 100 people).
"...is the legend in which Romulus killed his beloved brother Remus, manifested as a bloodsoaked rampart of love. It is a Bounded Field Noble Phantasm which protects the space isolated by the walls. The fortress walls instantly rise from the earth, so the summoning of the field can be positioned to cleave targets like a guillotine."
Rather effective barrier to say the least.

TL;DR Imperial Privilege and Magna Voluisse Magnum, along with his parameters ALONE makes him a Top Servant. Everything else just solidifies just a little more.
He deserved better than Septem.

 

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If Romulus were an SR or SSR, he'd probably be incredible.

 

In an actual HGW, I'd love to see someone summoning him. He'd just be so stupidly OP.  Let's not forget he's also potentially got fairly high ranking divinity due to being the son of Ares.

 

 

now I kinda wanna raise him. May as well do it anyways.

 

[YotsuMaboroshi]

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@N30 I wasn't contesting that Romulus is Top Servant material.  I was just going off the wiki, which didn't really have a source and isn't a reliable source in and of itself, and I haven't read the Extella materials myself.  I did know that TM admitted they did Romulus badly in Septem and that he should be much more powerful than he is in game.  I just wasn't sure if his Top Class qualification was speculation based on that interview, or if there was official material stating the Moon Cell could summon him as a Top Servant.

Same with Artoria as Grand Saber.  I know she's stated to be one of the best possible Sabers, just as far as I know TM hasn't actually confirmed her Grand qualification.  I didn't know they'd confirmed Arthur as a candidate, so that makes Artoria much more likely, but it's still not technically confirmed (just extremely likely, especially given that Artoria is the face of the franchise).

 

1 hour ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said:

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Isnt Solomon actually straight up a Grand? 

 

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Yes, the Solomon we fight in Fate is using a Grand Vessel.  It's possible for Grand candidates to be summoned as normal servants, as the main difference is in who does the summoning, not the strength of the servant.  The Servant vessels used in a Grail War are downgraded versions of the Grand vessels, since the servants have to be powered by human mages, and lowering the strength of the vessel is probably part of what allows more heroic spirits to qualify as Servants.  Grand Servants are specifically summoned by the world to fight against the Beasts and similar world-ending threats.

 

2 hours ago, Czarpy said:

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wait what's the deal with Bedeviere?

 

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Bedivere's a bit weird.  The Bedivere from the correct history should qualify as a Heroic Spirit and be summonable as a servant, according to Fate Apocrypha materials.  Bedivere's actions were notable, but among the Knights of the Round Table, his actions were fairly normal.  He would most likely be Earth attribute when summoned, like the rest of the Round Table.

FGO CAMELOT CHAPTER SPOILERS (I really should have noted this in my previous response)

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The Bedivere we encounter in FGO is not that Bedivere.  Instead, it's a Bedivere that did not return Excalibur to the Lady of the Lake.  Specifically, we meet the human Bedivere, not a Heroic Spirit, and originally this Bedivere should not be recorded in the Throne of Heroes, because Excalibur eventually completely burnt out his life and soul.  He manages to make it solely due to his actions during the singularity, which creates enough hope overall that he's a Star attribute, instead of an Earth attribute like the rest of the Round Table.

As this happens within the singularity, which is by it's nature outside of human history, we don't know if the Moon Cell records it.  If the Moon Cell couldn't record it, this version of Bedivere may not be summonable during a Moon Grail war, and thus not able to be a Top Servant.

Just based on his exploits as part of the Round Table, Bedivere shouldn't be a Top Servant.

 

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

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New headcanon, Miyano Bedivere is an alternate reality Bedivere

Untrap Bedi when

 

[MacLovin]

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11 minutes ago, YotsuMaboroshi said:

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@N30 I wasn't contesting that Romulus is Top Servant material.  I was just going off the wiki, which didn't really have a source and isn't a reliable source in and of itself, and I haven't read the Extella materials myself.  I did know that TM admitted they did Romulus badly in Septem and that he should be much more powerful than he is in game.  I just wasn't sure if his Top Class qualification was speculation based on that interview, or if there was official material stating the Moon Cell could summon him as a Top Servant.

Same with Artoria as Grand Saber.  I know she's stated to be one of the best possible Sabers, just as far as I know TM hasn't actually confirmed her Grand qualification.  I didn't know they'd confirmed Arthur as a candidate, so that makes Artoria much more likely, but it's still not technically confirmed (just extremely likely, especially given that Artoria is the face of the franchise).

 

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Yes, the Solomon we fight in Fate is using a Grand Vessel.  It's possible for Grand candidates to be summoned as normal servants, as the main difference is in who does the summoning, not the strength of the servant.  The Servant vessels used in a Grail War are downgraded versions of the Grand vessels, since the servants have to be powered by human mages, and lowering the strength of the vessel is probably part of what allows more heroic spirits to qualify as Servants.  Grand Servants are specifically summoned by the world to fight against the Beasts and similar world-ending threats.

 

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Bedivere's a bit weird.  The Bedivere from the correct history should qualify as a Heroic Spirit and be summonable as a servant, according to Fate Apocrypha materials.  Bedivere's actions were notable, but among the Knights of the Round Table, his actions were fairly normal.  He would most likely be Earth attribute when summoned, like the rest of the Round Table.

FGO CAMELOT CHAPTER SPOILERS (I really should have noted this in my previous response)

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The Bedivere we encounter in FGO is not that Bedivere.  Instead, it's a Bedivere that did not return Excalibur to the Lady of the Lake.  Specifically, we meet the human Bedivere, not a Heroic Spirit, and originally this Bedivere should not be recorded in the Throne of Heroes, because Excalibur eventually completely burnt out his life and soul.  He manages to make it solely due to his actions during the singularity, which creates enough hope overall that he's a Star attribute, instead of an Earth attribute like the rest of the Round Table.

As this happens within the singularity, which is by it's nature outside of human history, we don't know if the Moon Cell records it.  If the Moon Cell couldn't record it, this version of Bedivere may not be summonable during a Moon Grail war, and thus not able to be a Top Servant.

Just based on his exploits as part of the Round Table, Bedivere shouldn't be a Top Servant.

 

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so standard Bedivere should still be an option for summing in a standard HGW, right?

 

man I really want to see more of Charlemagne's paladins. We've still got Ogier, the wielder of Clarent. (Man what the fuck is with this sword. Mordred, Saber!Tristan, and Ogier are all said to use it), Oliver and the sword Hauteclair, Fierebras, and Roland. There could be an entire singularity on all of the matter of France. 

 

 

 

 

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does anyone know what the deal is with servants like Paul Bunyan/Hessian Lobo/Sasaki Kojirou? I understand that they're "composites" of phantoms, but would that mean that it's just a way to insert any folkloric character like fucking Pecos Bill?

 

Like I can see how they could potentially insert Guinevere into FGO despite her not having all that much in terms of legends. Same for dudes that don't get much development in lore like Pelleas from the arthurian mythos.

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@N30 I took a look through the type moon wiki and it said somewhere in there that vasco de gama was a potential caster. I'm not able to find any reason for this.

 

Edited March 6, 2018 by Czarpy

[Jingle Jangle]

Which one of these servants is a better caster? Cu Chulainn, Charles Babbage, or Mozart?

[YotsuMaboroshi]

28 minutes ago, Czarpy said:

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so standard Bedivere should still be an option for summing in a standard HGW, right?

 

man I really want to see more of Charlemagne's paladins. We've still got Ogier, the wielder of Clarent. (Man what the fuck is with this sword. Mordred, Saber!Tristan, and Ogier are all said to use it), Oliver and the sword Hauteclair, Fierebras, and Roland. There could be an entire singularity on all of the matter of France. 

 

 

 

 

 

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He should be, but would be much weaker than the current Bedivere.  We don't know much about him, other than he's possible, and most likely doesn't have a silver arm.

A sword having multiple wielders isn't wierd.  A sword being turned into a spear, then back into a sword, by different wielders is far odder than that.  Durandal (Roland's sword) and Durindana (Hector's spear) are the same weapon in the Nasuverse.

 

[MacLovin]

47 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said:

Which one of these servants is a better caster? Cu Chulainn, Charles Babbage, or Mozart?

Cu is story locked, which mean's he's only availible in the story summon gacha or special banners. He's a durable mage, but it's hard to get him to np5.

Usable if you like him tho.

Mozart is a cheap ass Arts support with debuffs. His value will spike once his SQ comes. If you like him, he's not the worst to raise. Arts boost is nice. Shakespeare gets a buster boost if you decide to use him.

Babbage is a combat caster. He's ok, but still underwhelming due to the shit attack modifier that casters get. If you want an AoE Caster then Paracelsus/Mozart/Shakespeare are likely better due to being support casters as well. (Paracelsus gets rapid casting of divine words and arts card boost as well.) He's better than fucking Mephisto tho. Don't use Mephisto unless you're really fond of him. he's really mediocre.

Medea/Hans are the best low rarity casters. Medea can spam her NP, which removes enemy buffs. Get her divine word skill to lvl 4 and she can use her RURU BUREKA asap.

Hans is good solely because his NP gives guarenteed healng as well as a good shot at buffs. His skills are also damned good too. 

You might wanna look up who's story locked and who isn't. Some story locked servants are really good (Saber Alter), while others are just kinda there for the collection aspect. (Caster Gilles. He's kinda bad, but he's story locked. There's also Medea Lily, but I'm a little iffy on using specialist healers in fgo since that's fucking all she does. )

if you somehow need a high level caster, just borrow someone's Waver/Tamamo/Caster!Liz. For story purposes, Casters are just good support characters. Just look at how highly Hans is rated.  

35 minutes ago, YotsuMaboroshi said:

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He should be, but would be much weaker than the current Bedivere.  We don't know much about him, other than he's possible, and most likely doesn't have a silver arm.

A sword having multiple wielders isn't wierd.  A sword being turned into a spear, then back into a sword, by different wielders is far odder than that.  Durandal (Roland's sword) and Durindana (Hector's spear) are the same weapon in the Nasuverse.

 

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@YotsuMaboroshi

Actually the connection between durandal and durindana is a real thing too. it's kinda funny.

 

actually the whole thing with the Matter of France and the Paladins is that it ties with a lot of other mythologies. There's the deal with Astolfo getting his magic book from Logistilla, who is said to be from Avalon. 

 

I'm surprised it took them this long to give us the Paladins considering that they tossed us Hassan and Sasaki Kojirou right out the gate lol. 

 

 

Come to think of it, wouldn't Jeanne legitimately qualify as a Saber due to the sword of saint catherine being a legitimate holy sword that she used in lore. iirc, she cut down prostitutes with that thing. (There's another thing she ain't gonna be telling Sieg huh)

 

I'm curious as to who the Crypter's Saber is @N30 I'm not so sure, but I've heard the theory that it's a dual class servant.

 

 

oh yay got saber gilles to np5. This isn't really gonna change my way of using him on the bench tho. Well I guess he gets to come out for a few events.

Why the fuck couldn't they have given us a 3* Artoriaface.

 

 

 

fucked up the ruler battle. I wasn't paying attention and Dantes died. Used 1 SQ since I didn't wanna waste the AP. 

Vlad+Lu Bu+Dantes makes short work of this one. Kinda wish I had a better charisma user than David, but the AoE evade is nice. The writing is fun enough and I kinda want to get NIghtengale now. 

Dantes is just so fucking fragile. Holy shit dude, you shouldn't require me to fucking field a taunt tank just to survive. You sure ain't a berserker like Lu Bu who gets good damage to compensate. 

At least his NP is fun. If it wrecks berserkers and rulers like this, then I definitely want to get my hands on Jalter. 

 

Started pumping exp into the lower level servants to get them level capped and ready for ascension. Not gonna rank them up until the da vinci/fate zero event. 

The priority list of ascensions atm is

Saber Lily/Fergus (fuck horseshoes)

Romulus

Boudicca/Medusa (again, fuck horseshoes)

Kid Gil/Emiya

Paracelsus/Nursery Rhyme/Medea Lily/Hans (fuck pages)

I think I've got around 20-ish servants to FA. Most of them are Archers tho. 

 

Man oh man I want to get Georgios to FA but the fucking pages are so hard to get. Ugh fuck.

 

Edited March 6, 2018 by Czarpy

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Damn Jeanner should stay far away from Sakura then

[MrSmokestack]

10 hours ago, Jingle Jangle said:

Which one of these servants is a better caster? Cu Chulainn, Charles Babbage, or Mozart?

Mozart. Cu Chulainn and Charles Babbage are gross “offensive” casters in which they trade their potential to support the team for damage output. Cu Chulainn is also story summon locked so good luck getting Wicker Man to NP5.

Mozart despite being a 1* has a powerful teamwide Arts buff as well as a strong crit skill in A Little Night Music EX after strengthening. I would recommend him and Hans Christian Andersen as priority one to raise as your first casters.

[Jingle Jangle]

• What phones/tablets are you using to play the game? My current phone lags too much.
• I need better servants, what banner is best for a newcomer?

[MacLovin]

56 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Mozart. Cu Chulainn and Charles Babbage are gross “offensive” casters in which they trade their potential to support the team for damage output. Cu Chulainn is also story summon locked so good luck getting Wicker Man to NP5.

Mozart despite being a 1* has a powerful teamwide Arts buff as well as a strong crit skill in A Little Night Music EX after strengthening. I would recommend him and Hans Christian Andersen as priority one to raise as your first casters.

isn't Mozart kind of a support caster? 

man i can't wait for the da vinci event to come so i can max another 15 or so servants.

 

The next welfare is in the upcoming Fate/Zero event @Jingle Jangle It's a specialist healer caster.

32 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said:

• What phones/tablets are you using to play the game? My current phone lags too much.
• I need better servants, what banner is best for a newcomer?

there's the Nox emulator but it's not guarenteed to play fgo.

there's no distinct banner recommendation, but the upcoming e pluribus unim servant banners are decent to roll on if you want Cu Alter/Nightengale/Rama. The Jeanne Alter banner is a big one that can net you one of the best damage dealers that's limited. (Cu Alter is story locked. But he's also one of the best damage dealers in the game too)

save as many friend points as you can through the da vinci event's farming. Blow them all on the fate/zero event because that's when Angru Mainya gets added to the FP gacha.

Give us a list of who you've got right now and maybe we can help you. There's a lot of low rarity servants that are really good.

My view on them goes like this atm.

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Sabers

• Caesar- Single Target NP and good skills
• Fergus- AoE NP and good, albeit selfish skills
• Saber Gilles should only be used if you have no other options for sabers, at all.

Lancers

• Cu (Fate Stay Night)-Best dog. Cockroach character that doesn't die easily and have a Single Target NP. Prototype Cu is also good if you want to use him instead.
• Leonidas- Buster buffing Taunt Tank. 
• Hector/Romulus-Your only cheap options for AoE lancers. Idk the specifics on them, but they're both workable AoE lancers. Hector's got an awkward skillset and Romulus is sort of difficult to kill but has low-ish attack. 
• Benkei and Diarmud are considered to be crapstains, but they're both event bonus servants so you might wanna raise them just for that.

Archers

• All of the bronze/silver rarity archers are solid and usable
• Arash-Suicide AoE. 
• David-Offensive support. Charisma and AoE evade. STNP is nice
• Robin Hood- STNP Nuke. Use his first skill when his gauge is full and watch the numbers pop
• Euryale-STNP Nuke, but particularly on male characters. 
• Kid GIl- AoE NP with A rank charisma and golden rule. 
• Just raise all of them anyways. They come in handy all the time.

Riders

• Medusa/Alexander- AoE NP servants. Medusa's got a more selfish skillset, but she can do more damage. Alexander has a better support skillset with charisma and future quick buff skill. It depends on who you like here.
• Ushiwakamaru- Unless you get Anne Bonne and Mary Read, there's no other STNP rider. Her skills are good and her NP damage scales ridiculously. IF she crits with that NP, something dies.
• St. George-Taunt Tank with guts. Can do a meme team with Siegfried. He's got a good bond CE too. You'll want taunt tanks anyways.
• Blackbeard-I don't know much about him since I haven't raised him up yet, but apparently he's good. 
• Boudicca's kind of like a worse Mashu without a taunt. 

 

Assassins

• Kojirou- Dragon slaying assassin with a good and cheap skillset. He'll probably be your go to guy for Orleans. Idk about his long term potential, but it seems that people love to grail him.
• Hassan- The other good bronze assassin. Better star generator than Kojirou, but his evade skill comes at third ascension.
• Jing Ke- Solid assassin if you have her.
• Jekyll- Dunno much about him, but he's also a berserker. The other low rarity assassins have their niches, but are kinda iffy. Mata Hari's a debuffer and Sanson's a weird anti-human specialist with healing skills.

Casters

• Hans- Buffbot NP
• Shakespeare/Mozart-AoE NP with debuffs. Good support skills.
• Medea-Spammable NP. 
• The only shitty caster I can think of is Mephistopheles. The rest of them have their uses for support (the bunch above) or for assassin mob clearing (Babbage, Paracelsus)

Berserkers

• Lu Bu- Aka. Hercules Lite.
• Asterios- Hidden gem of a berserker with a debuffing NP and good skills
• The rest of the berserkers are very usable, although Caligula has to compete with fucking Lu Bu for STNP zerk goodness. The AoE berserkers seem pretty interchangeable to me atm. 

level mashu. she'll come in handy.

ugh I want to get ROMA maxed out.

 

Edited March 6, 2018 by Czarpy

[Jingle Jangle]

19 minutes ago, Czarpy said:

Give us a list of who you've got right now and maybe we can help you.

My current list:

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[MacLovin]

3 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said:

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ok

so mashu, marie and emiya have plenty of arts cards I'd recommend Mozart since he can give some arts support (Babbage/Caster Cu are offensive casters and therefore kinda mediocre), Kojirou, since you need an assassin that's usable and solid right out the gate. (Mata Hari can probably work just as well, but you're gonna need to overlevel her and use her properly.) As for berserkers, I'd guess Kiyo is the best of this bunch right now.

oh and Kid Gil is good. He's probably better than Emiya until Garcher gets his SQ.

[MrSmokestack]

30 minutes ago, Czarpy said:

isn't Mozart kind of a support caster? 

I mean, that’s entirely the reason you run a caster in the first place. Most “offensive” casters are terrible save for Xuanzang and a select few others.

11 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said:

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Mozart / EMIYA / Shielder is a good start for now. I’d also level Arash and Spartacus for fast grinding later on. Kid Gil is interesting on stall teams with Nightingale to neuter the enemy’s damage because of the debuffs on his NP.

Roll for Hans and Georgios on the FP gacha and you’ll be set for now. Save SQ for the DaVinci event and hope you strike it rich.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

13 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

I mean, that’s entirely the reason you run a caster in the first place. Most “offensive” casters are terrible save for Xuanzang and a select few others.

Mozart / EMIYA / Shielder is a good start for now. I’d also level Arash and Spartacus for fast grinding later on. Kid Gil is interesting on stall teams with Nightingale to neuter the enemy’s damage because of the debuffs on his NP.

Roll for Hans and Georgios on the FP gacha and you’ll be set for now. Save SQ for the DaVinci event and hope you strike it rich.

No, the problem is your post was confusing, since it almost implies Mozart is part of the offensive caster without triple checking

 

That said i personally think Mozart pre buff is pretty trashy

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[MacLovin]

11 minutes ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said:

No, the problem is your post was confusing, since it almost implies Mozart is part of the offensive caster without triple checking

 

That said i personally think Mozart pre buff is pretty trashy

yeah but arts card buffs works well enough with the combined decks of emiya and mashu.

shame he wants an art np damager like shiki.

[MrSmokestack]

50 minutes ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said:

No, the problem is your post was confusing, since it almost implies Mozart is part of the offensive caster without triple checking

In my defense I did not explicity state Mozart was an “offensive” caster. I just said Mozart was much better than his 1* rarity would suggest. But I can see why that would be confusing, my bad.

50 minutes ago, JSND Alter Dragon Boner said:

That said i personally think Mozart pre buff is pretty trashy

Triple Arts deck and Arts buff is good enough until his strengthen comes along. Though if he had Hans I would have picked him over Mozart in a heartbeat.

[MacLovin]

6 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

In my defense I did not explicity state Mozart was an “offensive” caster. I just said Mozart was much better than his 1* rarity would suggest. But I can see why that would be confusing, my bad.

Triple Arts deck and Arts buff is good enough until his strengthen comes along. Though if he had Hans I would have picked him over Mozart in a heartbeat.

he can always use Boudicca as an arts team member

[MrSmokestack]

21 minutes ago, Czarpy said:

he can always use Boudicca as an arts team member

Haha very funny

And the final strengthen is for an extra class! Called it!

[MacLovin]

4 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Haha very funny

And the final strengthen is for an extra class! Called it!

is it meltlilith or meltryllys?

[Shiki]

Screw those ghosts. They crit way too often, especially the big one. What's the point of removing it if it is going to crit 3-times in a row anyway?
Switched from Buster meme to Arts meme but it was still pretty bad.

Dantes wasn't so bad ... until his first attack almost 2-shotted Leonidas with NP buff. Still, wasn't too difficult.

8 hours ago, MrSmokestack said:

Triple Arts deck and Arts buff is good enough until his strengthen comes along. Though if he had Hans I would have picked him over Mozart in a heartbeat.

1-turn Arts buff alongside 1* stats really doesn't hold up. Pre-Strengthening Mozart is pretty bad actually and even with his Strengthening he is more or less a 1-shot Support.