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1 minute ago, Bartozio said:

Camus is always a good start :D

(Or Xander, if you really want to...)

Yeah... Camus 

To add to the already abundant amount of 5 star lances I have heh 

I'm not sure who I want to choose between the two...

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Just now, Oboro! said:

Yeah... Camus 

To add to the already abundant amount of 5 star lances I have heh 

I'm not sure who I want to choose between the two...

Then what do you have a shortage of (relatively speaking)?

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2 minutes ago, Bartozio said:

Then what do you have a shortage of (relatively speaking)?

Nothing really

If anything, I lack an OP bow user and an Axe unit who can wreck face.

Other than that, I already have 6 five star sword users (though only 2 of them are trained up), 4 5 star spear users, one OP OP Kill all button (Nino), 2 5 star red tome users, a blue tome Male Robin, and one dagger.

Just now, Rezzy said:

Who have you been promoting with your feathers?

Welp

20k went to Nino, my first promotion

60k went to Oboro heh 

Then 40k went to Redblade Lilina

Then 20k to Anna

Somewhere in there I promoted a Zephiel to give Celica Life and Death

Now we're at 30k

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Sigh... every time I try to build a team based on enemy colors, only to give up 5 minutes later and just run 3 blues in a team.

 

Why does blue stacking even work in maps like this?

(Camus solo'd the brave lance and Inferno red mage, and then Cordelia Galeforce swept the rest of the team team. I mean, technically Azura being blue didn't have anything to do with anything, but *shrugg.* Last slot was B!Cordelia, but could've been literally anyone since Cordelia one rounds everyone on the map, so it just needed to be someone who can kill the one last unit left over from the sweep---Cordelia also has savage blow, so didn't need to do a 100 to 0 ORKO either.)

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Just cleared Infernal using Horse Emblem (Xander, Camus, Olwen, Jagen). Would've tried using my usual team (Ryoma, Nino, Ephraim, Olivia), but I couldn't figure out a proper strat with them.

Team Comp:
Xander has Hone Cavalry and is used to take out Cecilia.
Olwen takes out the Lance Cav, Red Mage, the Archer, and Lilina (She has Iceberg and Desperation)
Camus takes out the Peg Knight (I taught him Vantage, not sure if it was used though.)
Jagen is only present for Fortify Cavalry 

1. Set up Olwen with buffs and send her to take out the Lance Cav.
2. Use Olwen to finish off the Red Mage from a safe position. Retreat units, leaving Xander out to bait Celicia. Make sure Camus gets both buffs.
3. Use Olwen to kill the Archer. Xander kills Cecilia. Camus moves up to block Lance Peg and Lilina. 
4. Use Camus to finish off the Lance Pegasus. Use Olwen to finish off Lilina.

Mileage may vary depending on enemy movement, but this is how I won Infernal.

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1 minute ago, Oboro! said:

Nothing really

If anything, I lack an OP bow user and an Axe unit who can wreck face.

Then the answer to your problem is:

Brave Axe Fredrick! (or Gunter if you don't have a Freddy)

Or just Camus, because he's probably better then any lance user you already have :P

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This is the guide I used. You do need the 4* Palla to have wings of mercy 2, I didn't have mine at level 40 though. My Hana is 5* so Palla didn't need to do combat even once.
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Bartozio said:

Then the answer to your problem is:

Brave Axe Fredrick! (or Gunter if you don't have a Freddy)

Or just Camus, because he's probably better then any lance user you already have :P

I'd rather do Brave Ax Legion

Or wait for slaying ax for slaying ax Legion heh

Is Camus better than Azura?

Well I actually have 7 five star swords, and I only use 2

A +Atk -HP Karel

A +HP -Def Karel 

A +Res -Spd Marth

LuciMarth 

The new 5 star Roy I just pulled

And of course, Brash Assault Lyn and Furynewel Reciprocaid Alm

Nobody is fat, which is why Xander fits nice

Since you're a Camus expert, best A slot for Camus besides fury

Don't say life and death :p

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1 minute ago, Oboro! said:

I'd rather do Brave Ax Legion

Or wait for slaying ax for slaying ax Legion heh

Is Camus better than Azura?

Well I actually have 7 five star swords, and I only use 2

A +Atk -HP Karel

A +HP -Def Karel 

A +Res -Spd Marth

LuciMarth 

The new 5 star Roy I just pulled

And of course, Brash Assault Lyn and Furynewel Reciprocaid Alm

Nobody is fat, which is why Xander fits nice

Since you're a Camus expert, best A slot for Camus besides fury

Don't say life and death :p

Did you get 5* Tobin?

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Knocked out Lunatic with Reinhardt, Xander, Olivia, and Lilina. It went really well, but I can't do the same for Infernal because of red wolf on the left.

24 minutes ago, Oboro! said:

Then 40k went to Redblade Lilina

ooh, what's her build? I intend to go the same weapon for mine if I ever pull a 5 star tharja. Dunno other skills though.

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3 minutes ago, Gustavos said:

ooh, what's her build? I intend to go the same weapon for mine if I ever pull a 5 star tharja. Dunno other skills though.

I only did it because my Tharja was bad heh

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3 minutes ago, Oboro! said:

I'd rather do Brave Ax Legion

Or wait for slaying ax for slaying ax Legion heh

But Legion doesn't have a horse

3 minutes ago, Oboro! said:

Since you're a Camus expert, best A slot for Camus besides fury

Don't say life and death :p

Why would you even consider not using Fury?

The thing is, Camus is so well rounded that he could make almost anything work. Fury is the most well rounded option, and evrything else is more specialised. He can rock stuff like Darting Blow (39 speed when initiating, 45 after a cav boost) or DB if you want to use him more offensively, or you could go with a counter killing set and use Distant Defence to patch up his weakness to magic.

Honestly, it depends on what you want your melee units to do. Think of a role, and he can do it pretty well.

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20 minutes ago, Oboro! said:

Since you're a Camus expert, best A slot for Camus besides fury

 

1 minute ago, Bartozio said:

But Legion doesn't have a horse

Why would you even consider not using Fury?

+3 atk or +3 spd would also work for the A-slot if you're after something more budget/no Hinatas. Fury/Vantage is so good on Camus though >_<

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Compared to Alm and Celica's, this one gave me far less grief. Infernal went down thanks to the combined might of my two tried-and-two delete buttons Nino and Klein.

Team

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5* Eirika (+Atk/-Res): Sieglinde, Rally Defense, Moonbow, Speed +3, Drag Back, Hone Spd 3, Fortify Res 1
Ninian (neutral): Light Breath+, Dance, Luna, Triangle Adept 1, Escape Route 3, Fortify Def 2
5* Nino (+Atk/-Res): Gronnblade+, Draw Back, Draconic Aura, Fury 3, Desperation 3, Hone Atk 3
5* Klein, +1 (+Atk/-Res): Brave Bow+, Draw Back, Luna, Death Blow 3, Swordbreaker 3, Threaten Def 3, HP +3

Strategy

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Starting Positions:
Klein Nino
Eirika Ninian

Turn 1: Nino moves up one, breaks wall. Klein moves up one. Eirika goes behind Nino while Ninian goes behind Klein.

Turn 2: Klein goes in and guns down the pegasus. Ninian goes over and dances for him. Klein moves up one and puts Lilina out of her misery. Nino uses Draw Back on Ninian so she doesn't get wasted by Cecilia. Eirika stays where she is. Cecilia moves into Lilina's initial spot and attacks Klein who had Luna charged. The two are left with 34 HP and 7 HP respectively. Archer moves down one and destroys the other wall. Lance cavalier moves one to the right then two spaces up. Mage moves into the lance cavalier's initial spot.

Turn 3: Klein finishes Cecilia. Ninian moves up and dances for him. Nino moves up one and wrecks the lance cavalier. Eirika moves up one and Klein moves down two. Archer moves up and then right. Mage moves right then up.

Turn 4: Klein moves down and destroys the mage. Nino moves up one. Ninian dances her. Nino kills the archer, able to take a hit from him.

 

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Cleared Infernal using the following team below.  The strat was to get Peri to trigger a Wings of Meme chain to clear the upper part of the map.

Team + Relevant Stuff:

  • Peri [+Spd/-HP] - Killer Lance+ / Galeforce / Fury 3 / Goad Cav / QP
  • Eldigan - Mystletainn / Fury3 / WoM3 / Goad Cav
  • Ursula - Blarowl+ / Iceberg or Glacies / Fury3 / WoM3 / Hone Cav
  • Azura - Sing / WoM3

Azura wasn't necessary for Infernal. though she was used in Lunatic to achieve a 2-Turn clear.

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40 minutes ago, Bartozio said:

But Legion doesn't have a horse

Why would you even consider not using Fury?

The thing is, Camus is so well rounded that he could make almost anything work. Fury is the most well rounded option, and evrything else is more specialised. He can rock stuff like Darting Blow (39 speed when initiating, 45 after a cav boost) or DB if you want to use him more offensively, or you could go with a counter killing set and use Distant Defence to patch up his weakness to magic.

Honestly, it depends on what you want your melee units to do. Think of a role, and he can do it pretty well.

Camus does everything eh?

Can I give him fortress defense HEH

I'll just give him attack +3 then

Let's see how long it'll take for me to decide between Xander and Camus heh

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34 minutes ago, Oboro! said:

Don't say life and death :p

i put L&D on my Camus :D:D

 

well i beat infernal using Klein, Summer Leo, Azura, and Nino. Nino was barely able to 2HKO the Lance Flier thanks to Leo's Tomato Tome passive, and that's all she did the whole fight. Leo's Panic Ploy was pivotal as it allowed Klein to tank two hits from the Red Mage after he went off to kill the Lance Knight (w/Lance Breaker 1). Leo also tanked Cecilia and Lilina like a beast, killing Cecilia on the rebound with QR. from there Nino kills flier, Azura explodes Lilina, and the Brave Bow guy walks towards Azura, Nino and Leo like a dope instead of cornering Klein to finish him off, gets obliterated by a Leo Iceberg and a two stabs from a Sapphire Lance. 

i was really sad that my Leo was -Spd +HP but i'm determined to use him )< he can duel a lot of mages with that sick Res and a QR to patch his garbo speed. and if they double him (aka almost everyone, it's 23 speed..) it's a guaranteed super damage Iceberg yay. with +Res buff from Azura, +Res A slot, and +Res seal, he gets up to 43 res. 21 damage Iceberg yay. listen i know he's trash but don't make fun of my son he's been through enough 

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After a bit of pondering, I managed to do Infernal. Team was as follows:

5* Reinhardt, + Speed, - Res. Death Blow 2, R Tomebreaker 1, Goad Cavalry.
5* Xander. Armoured Blow 3, Vantage 3, Spur Defence 3, HP +3 Seal. Proc was Bonfire.
4* Cecilia, + Speed, - Attack. Attack +3, Escape Route 3. Assist was Rally Resistance.
4* Gunter, + Attack, - Defence. Armoured Blow 3, Hone Cavalry 3.

Turn 1: Move Reinhardt to the tile below the right breakable wall, have Cecilia go to his right, Gunter below him, and Xander to the right of Gunter.
Turn 2: Rally Resistance up Xander with Cecilia and move him one tile to the left of Reinhardt. Have Reinhardt kill the Blue Cavalier. On the EP, the Red Mage leaves Reinhardt with 4 HP. Lilina attacks Xander and leaves him with 3 HP. Thanks to both Hone and Goad Cavalry, Xander doubles and kills Lilina. Cecilia attacks Xander, but thanks to Vantage and Bonfire, Xander kills Cecilia in a single hit. The Blue Flier breaks the right wall, and the Archer moves two spaces to the right.
Turn 3: Reinhard kills the Red Mage whilst staying out of the Archer's range. Xander moves next to Reinhardt. Gunter moves up one space, choking, and Cecilia moves to where Gunter was just now. On the EP, the Blue Flier doubles Gunter for 2 damage, and the Archer moves two spaces to the right.
Turn 4: Cecilia doubles and kills the Archer, and Gunter delivers the final blow.

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OMG Lunatic was so easy. I just beat it only using Camus and Klein. Camus is +1 and Klein is +Atk/-Spd. 

Klein killed the pegi, Camus repo'ed him back and then killed Cecilia and Vantage killed Lilina. Then Klein killed the Cav and Camus finished the Archer a turn later.

Time to try Infernal.

 

SUCCESS!!  Used the same Camus and Klein with the Quickened Pulse seal, and Delthea and Azura came along for some support.

Turn 1 - moved everyone forward and broke the wall with Delthea

Turn 2 - Klein killed the pegi, Azura sang and Klein killed Lilina with Glacies (thanks to the Quickened pulse) Camus repo'ed Azura back and Delthea moved into Azura's spot giving Klein the Drive Atk boost. (In hindsight the Quickened Pulse isn't needed if Delthea is moved here before Klein Attacks Lilina.)

Turn 3 - Klein finishes off Cecilia with another Glacies proc. Delthea kills the archer. Camus kills the Lance Cav and Azura does nothing.

Turn 4 - Delthea moves toward the red mage to give Klein the Drive Atk boost needed to kill the red mage.

With the Atk +1 seal (or nothing really) on Klein things play out slightly differently but all enemies are still killed by the same units. The Atk +1 seal does allow Klein to kill the red mage without Delthea's Drive Atk support.

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1 minute ago, TheTuckingFypo said:

Yeah, Infernal is whooping my ass. Not even Reinhardt could save the day....

Alright then LOL

Are you certain no one else's strats have worked? Lots of other people did it different ways so make sure you can't mimic ANYONE!

Otherwise, I'll see what I can do ;)

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