Is there a tier list for this game?

[Snowy_One]

I'm curious for my Tier List FAQ topic. I'm adding in a section containing links to the lists of various games and am looking for one for this one.

[Dandy Druid]

Here's a YouTube video that made one.

 

I believe Reddit has also made some tier lists:

Alm's Route

Celica's Route

[Emperor Hardin]

16 minutes ago, Dandy Druid said:

Here's a YouTube video that made one.

 

I believe Reddit has also made some tier lists:

Alm's Route

Celica's Route

Nomah looks surprisingly fitting as a Baron actually.

[Dandy Druid]

1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said:

Nomah looks surprisingly fitting as a Baron actually.

I know right? It's too bad he's on Celica's route though.

[Emperor Hardin]

1 minute ago, Dandy Druid said:

I know right? It's too bad he's on Celica's route though.

Thats true, there is already Valbar.

But if you're reclassing anyone to Baron, you're doing it for style anyhow.

[The Unlikely Knight]

For that YouTube video...I'm still not sure if it's meant to be serious or if it's one big joke. I mean, the "secret units," are just out of left field.

[Emperor Hardin]

11 minutes ago, The Unlikely Knight said:

For that YouTube video...I'm still not sure if it's meant to be serious or if it's one big joke. I mean, the "secret units," are just out of left field.

Its the latter.

[The Unlikely Knight]

2 minutes ago, Emperor Hardin said:

Its the latter.

Upon rewatching parts of the video, it's definitely the latter.

It's pretty funny Ghast Station did that (and that he realizes the true power of Valbar!) "tier," video.

[Captain Karnage]

SoV is one of those YMMV kind of games

and it really depends on how well your characters grow

and if you consider reclassing, alongside the villagers

for me I found Valbar to be the best unit on Celica's route once he became a barron, and I then made him into a dread fighter

Clive went from a mediocore unit on Alm's side once I reclassed him to dread fighter, and then into a bowkinght

if you can do it, make every guy into a dreadfighter, the merc class fixes any issues a character may have

[Lady Sansa]

You think PoR Mia is a good unit. You have no business making a "tier list FAQ".

[Snowy_One]

On 9/4/2017 at 1:43 AM, Captain Karnage said:

SoV is one of those YMMV kind of games

and it really depends on how well your characters grow

and if you consider reclassing, alongside the villagers

for me I found Valbar to be the best unit on Celica's route once he became a barron, and I then made him into a dread fighter

Clive went from a mediocore unit on Alm's side once I reclassed him to dread fighter, and then into a bowkinght

if you can do it, make every guy into a dreadfighter, the merc class fixes any issues a character may have

 

Well, with any list usually the average stats get utilized since, like always, it depends on how your characters grow. Nothing is stopping one person from having a playthrough where Silaque gets every stat on a level-up just as much as the converse. Personally I'd outlaw village spork usage for a tier list as well as all DLC (except the ciphers since that's the only way to get certain characters). The villager-units would likely need to be tiered following each of their individual classes; and that's gonna make it extra annoying for ones who can be recruited on both paths... but it most certainly can be done.

[Dark Holy Elf]

I don't feel that Celica route Faye/Kliff are worth caring about, myself. Most tier list discussion I've seen excludes them.

I agree that tier lists lists shouldn't consider DLC, and that would include pitchforks.

[Interdimensional Observer]

For the sake of cutting down on tedium, the villagers need only be tiered in classes they have a serious argument in becoming. No Tobin!Knight or Gray!Mage.

And I agree Kliff at least need not really be considered for Celica's route, though Faye maybe because Cleric for Physic and Rescue. Kilff as a Mage will be outdone by Celica and Mae (plus Sonya if you pick her), you've a boatload of Mercs, Leon and likely Atlas for bow users, Knight is a laugh and handled by Valbar for the little time you need it, and Cav doesn't contribute much to Celica's path. Faye needn't be considered as a Mage or Cav for the same reasons, and you'll have 3 other choices for a Pegasus Knight.

I would want to include the Cipher DLC 4 in a tier list (with early Act 3 recruitment), but being DLC they'd have to be given parenthetical slots at best.

[Shadow Mir]

Personally, I think it ain't worth recruiting Faye and Kliff into Celica's party - neither of them would stand out in any worthwhile way.

[Moblin Major General]

12 hours ago, Levant Mir Celestia said:

Personally, I think it ain't worth recruiting Faye and Kliff into Celica's party - neither of them would stand out in any worthwhile way.

I could see the argument that Celica sorely needs Archers and cavaliers (with Atlas as her only canon Villager, I usually have him in either class to support either Leon or Conrad). I wouldn't leave Kliff, but I might leave Faye once so that I can have her as a Cavalier in Celica's Route just so I have 2 of each.

[Shadow Mir]

45 minutes ago, Hylian Air Force said:

I could see the argument that Celica sorely needs Archers and cavaliers (with Atlas as her only canon Villager, I usually have him in either class to support either Leon or Conrad). I wouldn't leave Kliff, but I might leave Faye once so that I can have her as a Cavalier in Celica's Route just so I have 2 of each.

What really dissuades me from thinking it's worth it is the fact they're going to be horrifically underleveled.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Not to mention Celica doesn't really need much of anything. Her chapters are notably easier on average, and she has less of them to boot (and in the context of Faye/Kliff, the gap widens further, as they miss Act 2).

[Snowy_One]

It's perfectly fine if Faye/Kliff get ranked low on a Celicia route run, but I do feel that a tier list for a game should do its best to include every character. I also feel it isn't fair to go 'well Alm could really use Faye/Kliff more, so let's put them at the bottom of the list' since, should the player recruit them, they may not be at the bottom. It's part of why I added that in my tier list FAQ (among other things like Ilyana in RD and the sibling split path in SS). Because saying 'well Faye's better off paired with Silaque instead of Genny so, even though she'd be very useful due to anew, she's ranked low.' isn't really fair or accurate for tiering.