bethany81707 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lord-Zero said: People forget that he has very good res for a melee unit. Sure, my current build misses out on Durandal's DB 2 effect on player phase but I kinda offset that with his Atk boon to bait and counterkill mages on enemy phase with DC and DD. I recalled that. I was just really hung up on that DB2. ...I wonder if I will try Eliwood (promoted or otherwise) in that map... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thany Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, JJ48 said: Depends on what you mean by "unexpected". If you mean someone who no one believed would be more popular, then sure. If you mean an underdog, then I'd prefer not. Im just trying to hold back my sadness of losing by being nice to the other contestants. tho if sophia was to appear out of nowhere that would be unexpected. but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'm tempted to change the topic title to "Voting Gauntlet: The Salt of Dragons". . . .but that's totally mod abuse. Regardless, this was worth playing. I'm at rank 5,008, and I will not stand for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Arcanite said: May the best dragon win Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents We lost Does this mean Nowi isn’t the best dragon? Because it does. @eclipse: thanks for not abusing mod powers! Edited October 11, 2017 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culpa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Seems precious chicken Dragon is just not popular enough even with crazy multipliers. Though honestly the fact that she almost won is bad considering the massive team size difference. They need to tone down the bonuses, make it so being on the losing team helps you in overall ranking but will not make a team 6 times larger lose or almost lose to multipliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafiel's Aria Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Bwahaha.. You know if the devs really wanted to have fun, they could do this like the Hunger Games. Everyone tries to get as many votes as possible for their character, and if they drop below a certain threshold, they get eliminated, and everyone gets a super loud push notification about it. (Firing canons could be optional.) No one knows how many votes that character has until they're eliminated. It's just a panic-induced race to keep your character's head above water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, eclipse said: Regardless, this was worth playing. I'm at rank 5,008, and I will not stand for that! I'm in the 5000s, and I'm not sure if that counts the glitched 7.4x I managed to hit this hour. If it doesn't, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Rafiel's Aria said: Bwahaha.. You know if the devs really wanted to have fun, they could do this like the Hunger Games. Everyone tries to get as many votes as possible for their character, and if they drop below a certain threshold, they get eliminated, and everyone gets a super loud push notification about it. (Firing canons could be optional.) No one knows how many votes that character has until they're eliminated. It's just a panic-induced race to keep your character's head above water. That actually sounds fun in a really twisted way... except for the bandwagoning that would ensue. Why must everything we love be ruined by bandwagoning?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, JJ48 said: Oh, very strategic. Almost as "strategic" as rolling a die in D&D. Sigh, I never said "very". The whole thing, including the multipliers, is entirely controlled by the players. 9 minutes ago, JJ48 said: Do tell how it was overconfidence that caused the losses. What could the fans (as a whole) have done differently based on the information they had at the time? They overshot at the "worst" time. Plain and simple. What could they have done? Determine if burning flags at that specific point was the right thing to do or not. From what I've seen so far, most people get their timing wrong due to how the "hours" are set up and that's how some of the "upsets" happened. @VaximillianSo you choose to remain salty. Okay then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Sentinel07 said: I'm genuinely shocked though at the trouble Young Tiki is having, especially against a character like Male Corrin with such a heavy stigma against. Multipliers keep everything close, short of a 7:1 ratio. 2 minutes ago, Culpa said: Seems precious chicken Dragon is just not popular enough even with crazy multipliers. Though honestly the fact that she almost won is bad considering the massive team size difference. They need to tone down the bonuses, make it so being on the losing team helps you in overall ranking but will not make a team 6 times larger lose or almost lose to multipliers. A bit too popular for her own good in the last hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafiel's Aria Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Just now, SageOfAnys said: That actually sounds fun in a really twisted way... except for the bandwagoning that would ensue. Why must everything we love be ruined by bandwagoning?!?! Yeah. Kinda sucks. I guess the only way to prevent bandwagoning is to offer different rewards for different teams. Or maybe different bonuses, etc. So Team Wrys would be just as appealing as Team Tharja. Totally won't happen, but a gal can dream. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord-Zero said: @VaximillianSo you choose to remain salty. Okay then. Whatever floats your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'm ending at rank 73 in team Ninian, thanks to catching all 3 multipliers. Max feathers for this round it seems, with 300 remaining flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultBeep Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rafiel's Aria said: Bwahaha.. You know if the devs really wanted to have fun, they could do this like the Hunger Games. Everyone tries to get as many votes as possible for their character, and if they drop below a certain threshold, they get eliminated, and everyone gets a super loud push notification about it. (Firing canons could be optional.) No one knows how many votes that character has until they're eliminated. It's just a panic-induced race to keep your character's head above water. Better yet: if a character loses in the Voting Gauntlet, they're removed from the game entirely. They never return in any future games or Fire Emblem merch, even if their original game gets remade. Any investment that the player has put into that unit, any SI given... it's gone. They're gone. And it's all the player's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord-Zero said: Sigh, I never said "very". The whole thing, including the multipliers, is entirely controlled by the players. They overshot at the "worst" time. Plain and simple. What could they have done? Determine if burning flags at that specific point was the right thing to do or not. From what I've seen so far, most people get their timing wrong due to how the "hours" are set up and that's how some of the "upsets" happened. @VaximillianSo you choose to remain salty. Okay then. Honestly, a lot of casuals actually just burn their flags as soon as they get them because like mentioned earlier, they don't know anything about multipliers and how they work, so they don't save. And guess who makes up the majority of players? Casuals. There is literally no way to prevent this without mass coordination, and mass coordination is currently impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracologist Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Well, I've made my last contribution. Good luck, everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, eclipse said: I'm tempted to change the topic title to "Voting Gauntlet: The Salt of Dragons". Don't forget that Awakening had Naga's and Tiki's Tears as the ultimate permanent stat boosters and tonics respectively. No doubt the salt in those tears must contribute to their efficacy! No wonder Anna is consoling Fae right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmender Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Man, spending flags at the start because I didn't knew about the multiplier changes really played a bad one on me. I ended with a score of 999,251 which places me at 2,240 in Sophia's army and 13,078 on cumulative. I really need to step up my game next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ48 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, DefaultBeep said: Better yet: if a character loses in the Voting Gauntlet, they're removed from the game entirely. They never return in any future games or Fire Emblem merch, even if their original game gets remade. Any investment that the player has put into that unit, any SI given... it's gone. They're gone. And it's all the player's fault. Ooh! And it'll also hack all existing copies of the game to remove the character even from your old GBA cartridges or GameCube discs! Hm...if we could get Camilla to lose under these rules, it may almost be worth it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Re: Gauntlet Mechanics, You can either have "match decided by a coin flip" or "popularity cruise control, predetermined winners". The only interesting matches in either system are accidents rather than design. The Gaunlet isn't going to be a legitimate competition until they do away with team sizes and focus on performance. Also, regarding secret voting, that would be even less of an interesting mode. Who would care about a sport where you can only see the ending? I'm hoping Ninian wins, but I'll accept it of she loses to an upset. It's a silly, flawed game mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said: Don't forget that Awakening had Naga's and Tiki's Tears as the ultimate permanent stat boosters and tonics respectively. No doubt the salt in those tears must contribute to their efficacy! No wonder Anna is consoling Fae right now. If all this salt actually made Naga's Tears in-game, I would be rooting for every single upset. Julia wants to be a juggernaut, dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Well, I won't be able to play much until tomorrow evening, so I guess I won't be able to use most of my flags early tomorrow morning. I ended with a score of 787,875 for a team rank of 3299 and total of 9845, pending whatever goes on in the last hour. Looks like I should be safe below the 5K mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, SageOfAnys said: Honestly, a lot of casuals actually just burn their flags as soon as they get them because like mentioned earlier, they don't know anything about multipliers and how they work, so they don't save. And guess who makes up the majority of players? Casuals. There is literally no way to prevent this without mass coordination, and mass coordination is currently impossible. The mode itself is a mess but the developers keep tweaking it to see what works so I'll give them some credit for not scrapping it despite the mountains of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracologist Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, DefaultBeep said: Better yet: if a character loses in the Voting Gauntlet, they're removed from the game entirely. They never return in any future games or Fire Emblem merch, even if their original game gets remade. Any investment that the player has put into that unit, any SI given... it's gone. They're gone. And it's all the player's fault. Is it bad that the first thing I thought of when I saw that was how much of a controversy it would be if Leon lost a voting gauntlet with those rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ48 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, NekoKnight said: Also, regarding secret voting, that would be even less of an interesting mode. Who would care about a sport where you can only see the ending? Who cares about this "sport" as it stands now? Though admittedly, I'm not a huge fan of sports/competitions in general, so perhaps someone who cares about seeing any bit of them at all should weigh in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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