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[riariadne]

The best feature of the January SF update was that the topic title character limit is now 250.

Rules, which are still exactly the same as in the previous topic:

Game rules:

1. This game is Outside Contact, or OC. You can talk to any player at any time as long as you're both alive. Please invite me to any PMs on SF and any chats you make on Discord (my discord is reinfleche#2095) or Skype (my skype is reinflechezero), though Discord is preferable. If you don't have Discord, it has a great web client at https://discordapp.com/ and it will probably benefit you to use it.
2. Don't quote your role PM (or if you have a role that could possibly find another)- paraphrase instead. If you want to quote other things, feel free. If you want help from me to fake a quote, I will do that too.
3. Similar to the above, sharing screenshots is strictly banned. If you want to screenshot something for future reference, you can put it in your role PM.
4. Do not invite players who were not in a PM from the start into a new one, with the exception of substitute players.
5. If you attempt to modkill yourself to the advantage of yourself or your team, I will make sure that it does not benefit you. Please just don't do it!
6. Editing your posts is allowed. Don't edit your votes. Also, please tell me/screenshot what you edited if you do so.
7. Ask me if you aren't sure about something. I will be as helpful as I can.
8. Don't be an asshole. Games are for fun, don't try and give other people a bad time.

Setup information:

1. There are two known factions in the game, the uninformed majority Town and the informed minority Mafia. However, both of them have the same win condition, "You are aligned with the Town/Mafia, and win if all threats to your faction are eliminated, or if this is in some way inevitable." There may be other factions.
2. This game has no items, so... don't claim thief!
3. This game will not feature any hidden players.
4. This game will not have a fool, lyncher, or any variants on those.
5. Death may or may not be the end.
6. If your role PM contradicts the rules your role PM is correct, except for rule 3 and 4 of setup information.
7. You may not self target (unless your role PM says so).
8. Investigative role results are not guaranteed to be accurate.
9. This game will start on Day 1. All phases will be approximately 48 hours long, with the exception of Day 1 which will probably be 72.
10. Whoever has the most votes at the end of a Day phase will be lynched. There are no minimum voting requirements for anyone to be lynched. If 2/3rds of all votes are on a given player at any time as determined by me, I will end the day phase early if I can. If there is a tie, there will be no lynch.
11. If the Town is in a mislynch or lose OR a lynch correctly or lose scenario, I will alert all players at the start of the Day phase. This will only account for a single hostile faction, however, if there are more in the game- so they could possibly be in trouble even before this.
12. I am not a perfect host, I might make mistakes in role PM phrasing but I try to be consistent. I will do my best not to make any major errors.

Playerlist:

1. Marth/Magnificence- Vergil, the Mafia Dark Slayer (motivator)- Lynched D3
2. Walrein- Edna Mode, the Mafia Super Costume Maker (tailor + roleblocker)- Lynched D2
3. Prims- Dutch Schaefer, the Town Jungle Hunter (visitor/visited counter)- Killed N2
4. Jaybee- Reolver Ocelot, the Town Chronic Backstabber (jailer)- Killed N4
5. Shinori- Medivh, the Town Guardian of Tirisfal (safeguard)- Killed N3
6. LG
7. Junk
8. Bartozio- Sheev Palpatine, the Town Lord of the Sith (mayor + 2x persuade)- Lynched D5
9. Michelaar- L, the Town Kira Investigator (cop)- Killed N4
10. Green Poet- Shadow Barkley, the Mafia B-Ball Doppelganger (decoy + BPV + rolecop)- Lynched D4
11. SB- The Joker (wolf)- Killed N4
12. Refa- Vegeta, the Town Prince of Saiyans (ascetic + 1x delayed vig)- Killed N3
13. Greencapps Zeonth
14. Elieson
15. Proto/Oboro Snike- Rocky Balboa, the Town Italian Stallion (macho rogue)- Lynched D1
16. kirsche- Hilda, the Town Unova Trainer (sequencing Track/Watch/Doc jack)- Killed N3
17. Ice Sage- Cidolfus Demen Bunansa, the Mafia Doctor of Draklor Lab (cardflip enforcer + gravedigger)- Killed D4

Edited November 25, 2017 by Reinfleche
Night 5

[riariadne]

Role PMs are going out now. Please do not post or speak using OC until I signal the game has begun.

[riariadne]

All role PMs have now been sent out... blame people on discord for distracting me from sending them more quickly!

Flavor is for hosts that aren't me! It's Day 1 now, and I said that would be about 72 hours long, so I'll give it 74 hours and 40 minutes from now since I won't be home otherwise. Deadline is on Sunday the 12th, 11 PM EST. Good luck and for the love of god please read the rules and don't do shit like post your role PM.

EDIT: One more thing! I forgot to post this in the rules but please vote using ##Vote: USER because that makes it way easier for me not to miss votes. Thanks.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Reinfleche

[Prims]

My role is fairly expendable. Claim to me while scum still hasn't had time to make fakes. (Technically Rein wouldn't confirm or deny whether scum were given fakes or not, but it's rare enough in OC that I'm willing to take the risk. Also I just want to lead.)

##Vote: Walrein in the meantime.

[Prims]

NEVERMIND REFA TELLS ME REIN DOES GIVE SCUM FAKES???

Claim to me anyway though.

[Prims]

From what I can tell (badass mafia 2 spreadsheet) Rein gives scum fake characters but not fake abilities.

[ZoesMad]

as a former member of the badass 2 scumteam (RIP), im pretty sure we got claims and roles to fake

[Jaybee]

rip

[Prims]

lame

##Unvote
##Vote: Greencapps

[Greencapps]

O know so what's the general procedure for D1 in OC games?

Just want to get this out of the way so I don't get wrongly scumred like last game

also 

##Vote:Bartozio 

I think I'll just make this tradition.

[Greencapps]

No idea how autocorrect got "O know" from Ok.

[Refa]

8 minutes ago, Greencapps said:

O know so what's the general procedure for D1 in OC games?

(it'd be better to ask for help from an unbiased third party, I recommend sending a PM over to eclipse if you need help)

1: Talk to people.  I don't know how other people are going about it, but my personal plan is to reach out to ~five people on D1 (and anyone who is a topic of discussion) so I can focus on my reads a little more and don't burn myself out.  It's a good starting point, at least.

2: People generally don't RVS vote in OC, but I remember someone (Prims or Vhaltz) saying that playing OC like NOC Day 1 would be a good idea.  I agree with this personally, but unless this is something that the whole playerbase decides on doing, there's not much point to doing it IMO.

[Prims]

I do believe that forming vote trains ED1 like you would in NOC is a good idea in OC, yes. More chances to get reactions that snowball into something like in NOC, just the reactions are out-of-thread here.

[Refa]

Fair enough on reactions, actually.

##Vote: Shinori

He was scum in the last game, and my next level intuition he's probably scum in this one too.

[Green Poet]

##Vote: Junko

Feel free to add/PM me over Discord. Not super familiar with OC but I'll do my best :blobthumbsup:

[Greencapps]

Greencapps #1078

Just gonna plop this here in case people want to get in touch on discord.

[Ampharos]

i'm lazy and busy so you're probably gonna have to come to me first

##Vote: Marth

[Shinori]

43 minutes ago, Refa said:

Fair enough on reactions, actually.

##Vote: Shinori

He was scum in the last game, and my next level intuition he's probably scum in this one too.

Spoiler

 

So your best way to contact me is 100% discord. You can use it through browser or download that thing. It's like skype but better.

Feel free to add me Shinori#8178

 

You can also message me here on SF and but that's messaged base and slow.

[Bluedoom]

my discord is bluedoom#6944

 

I'm busy on weekdays so it might be hard to talk then but I'm free over the weekends.

[Ampharos]

also PLEASE message me on discord and not anywhere else

Walrein#1651

[Elieson]

2 hours ago, Refa said:

Fair enough on reactions, actually.

##Vote: Shinori

He was scum in the last game, and my next level intuition he's probably scum in this one too.

Elieson#4395

I literally can't argue this logic

##Vote Shinori

[Prims]

Prims hashtag 6834, by the way.

[Michelaar]

I am on my phone now, but i'll join the discord via the pc later. Aannyway, i'm not that familiar with OC games, in fact, this is my first one. I don't like that you evil beings are already bullying Shinori. Like how dare you.

##Vote: Refa

[Michelaar]

Can someone please link me the mafia discord? The invite in the other topic doesn't work anymore.

[Prims]

https://discord.gg/PvEQSpW