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[SB.]

To get this out in the open for people:

[20:17] jkirsche: oh lol
[20:20] jkirsche: are people just voting inactives then
[20:20] jkirsche: zzzzz
[20:25] sb: do you have any better reads atm
[20:27] jkirsche: not really I guess
[20:27] jkirsche: Snike
[20:27] jkirsche: for his unnecessarily nitpicky criticism of Bartozio's vote
[20:27] sb: was this in thread?
[20:27] jkirsche: yeah
[20:27] jkirsche: Mass vote = 2 (now 3) votes (if I can count)?  Don't you think that's a little premature?

Like I'd hope someone wouldn't react poorly if so few votes were placed.
[20:28] jkirsche: ^^quoting him
[20:29] sb: i thought he was replying to mich in the massvote comment
[20:29] jkirsche: oh yeah Mich not bart
[20:29] sb: i dont think thats nitpicky
[20:29] jkirsche: Bart posted just after
[20:29] sb: i think its a valid point to make
[20:29] sb: when hes not presenting this as "mich is maf"
[20:29] jkirsche: I mean whats the purpose of picking apart the logic
[20:30] sb: when a vote doesnt make sense you talk about why
[20:30] sb: even if you think the person is town
[20:30] jkirsche: ???? when did Snike say he thought Mich was town
[20:31] sb: im talking to him now and he said he reads mich as town
[20:31] sb: i believe
[20:31] jkirsche: hmmm
[20:31] jkirsche: regardless 2 votes is still a lot in terms of this day phase
[20:31] jkirsche: and it was 3 votes
[20:34] jkirsche: Can you give me logs of Snike saying that he thinks Mich is town
[20:34] jkirsche: timestamped
[20:34] sb: [20:22] Snike: on the less negative side of life, I think greencapps is noob townie so far
[20:23] Snike: and from what I'm reading Michelaar being read along those lines by near everyone I've talked to
[20:23] Snike: michelaar is*
[20:26] sb: yeah i was feeling good about mich early
[20:26] Snike: so while I don't know either of those players, not inclined to lynch them based on some noob stuff
[20:34] sb: actually thats not quite true i guess
[20:35] jkirsche: I see
[20:35] sb: wouldnt lynch /=/ thinks they're town
[20:36] jkirsche: indeed
[20:36] sb: he says he doesnt know himself
[20:36] sb: after talking there

I actually feel like kirsche is reaching as far as possible to make this vote stick. I explained why I thought what Snike did in thread wasn't scummy and after this I talked some more to Snike and I thought his Mich thought process made sense anyway. I don't actually think kirsche can draw scum/scum associations from this reasonably.

##Unvote
##Vote: kirsche

[SB.]

[21:20] sb: yeah i interpreted snike's line in our convo as
[21:20] sb: mich is town at first
[21:20] sb: instead of wouldnt lynch
[21:20] LG: Yeah
[21:20] sb: but tbh they have the same result anyway

I really don't get why kirsche was bothered about this in the first place.

[Snike]

Where there's smoke, there's often fire. So when virtually everyone I've spoken to has townread mich, isn't reasonable to suggest that he's town, at least for the purposes of d1? I said his vote was bad, but I didn't say I scumread him.

As for Ice VS Mich, kirsche didn't really give me the chance to talk about who I wanted to lynch. Or much about the game other than my earlier post, really. Here, see for yourself:

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[4:36 PM] jkirsche: Is 3 votes during the middle of D1 when there are no lynch targets not significant enough pressure to warrant terms like "wagons" and "massvotes" (really wagon = mass vote by definition and I would call 3 votes on someone a wagon)

[4:36 PM] Snike: hello to you too

[4:36 PM] jkirsche: hi

[4:36 PM] Snike: there was 4

[4:36 PM] jkirsche: 4 including Mich

[4:37 PM] Snike: I think it's just calling it quick

[4:37 PM] Snike: yeah I miscounted

[4:37 PM] jkirsche: well even if it was 2

[4:37 PM] jkirsche: the whole point of the wagon

[4:38 PM] jkirsche: was to put poressure on Junko

[4:38 PM] Snike: is to get someone to react, yeah

[4:38 PM] jkirsche: so why would you try to eleviate the pressure

[4:39 PM] Snike: I was attacking what I saw as flawed logic

[4:39 PM] Snike: I don't townread junko tbh

[4:40 PM] Snike: I didn't see it as alleviating pressure

[4:41 PM] jkirsche: what else is downplaying the wagon on someone if not that

[4:41 PM] Snike: I think michel's vote was shit is what I should've said

[4:43 PM] Snike: that being said next question is probably why am I not voting mich

[4:44 PM] Snike: that's because according to next to everyone I've talked to he's obvtown or being townread

[4:44 PM] jkirsche: you think adding pressure to someone who refuses to try to participate in the game is bad

[4:44 PM] Snike: no I don't

[4:44 PM] jkirsche: that is basically what Mich is doing though

[4:45 PM] Snike: ok, I can see what you're saying now

[4:46 PM] jkirsche: great

[4:46 PM] jkirsche: whats wrong with voting people other people are townreading

[4:46 PM] jkirsche: surely you have to vote him then in order to put pressure on him

[4:46 PM] Snike: I wasn't thinking that far along

[4:46 PM] jkirsche: since he's not being pressured by otehr sources

[4:47 PM] jkirsche: anyway g2g have a think about what you want to do.

[4:48 PM] Snike: I don't think putting pressure on mich is worth my time because from what I'm being told he's often lynch bait, so while I think his logic at the time and in other ways is suspect I don't think he is scum?

[4:48 PM] Snike: ok np

Yeah, I got defensive, but when someone opens with something like that, with all sincerity, it's a little hard not to be.

That being said, earlier before this happened SB mentioned to me that he found kirsche off, and well, I agree. Not because he's going after me so much that whole exchange was really weird. It's aggression like he's had in the past, but I felt like no matter what I said it wasn't going to change things. Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

##Unvote

##Vote: Kirsche

I don't trust Junko ftr, but I think he's better than this fellow.

 

[Snike]

Ice was more based on policy and stuff I've heard in any case, so while I mentioned him to Junko earlier today he hasn't done anything as blatantly ??? compared to kirsche IMO, so I'm setting him aside right now.

[Prims]

Junko and kirsche were both in my list of potential lynches for today, so that's cool. Prefer Junko over kirsche though and need to talk more to both first. Junko seems to only be around when I'm not?

[Prims]

3 hours ago, kirsche said:

Sus on SB, he defended Snike by saying Snike thinks Mich was town who had poor justification to his vote (voting Junko to pressure him = poor justification???) but then when I pressured him for the logs it turns out Snike never said that and the whole defence was completely made up.

you think two scum faked logs together only to misquote it and fumble their defense of each other?

[Zkirsche]

Not faked logs just fumbled around.

Snike trying to defuse tension is scummy af no reason not to pressure Junko really and the call out on Mich is not only unjustified (it was 3 votes not 2 and yes thats a wagon for D1) but actually counterprodocutive. Really easy way for scum to try and seem like they care (is this what they call chainsaw defence? Legit question can't keep up with the terms they make nowadays) as it's just fluff really. "oh man Mich was kind of (but not actually) overexaggerating about the votes on Junko" hoenstly he keeps trying to justify that his read on Junko is null too which reads super defensive. Yes I went into convo to pressure you and everything in the post was made after I talked to you and you had time to compose yourself so I see no need for you to get this defensive.

[Zkirsche]

I didn't even talk about how defensive Snike was before my presvious post so it's kinda suspect that he goes out of his way to justify his behaviour imo. Very self conscious.

[Zkirsche]

Where there's smoke there's fire doesn't really hold up when there's no proper evidence that Mich is town, just speculation on the part of the people who have talked to Snike.

[Prims]

##Vote: Walrein
Talk to me when you're around. @Walrein

[ZoesMad]

#Vote: Elieson

Spoiler

[12:09 AM] LG: anyway
[12:10 AM] LG: I think elies tone switches pretty hard on prims
[12:10 AM] LG: I have quotes but I'm on mobile and too lazy to c/p
[12:10 AM] Nouvelle: hmm, a brief summary then?
[12:10 AM] LG: basically when he first offers himself as a counter to prims
[12:10 AM] LG: The what he's omitting vs what I'm omitting part
[12:10 AM] LG: Imo reads as shade thrown
[12:11 AM] LG: And he moves onto
[12:11 AM] LG: Attacking those claiming to prims and not prims
[12:11 AM] LG: It's a weird jump to make in my opinion
[12:11 AM] LG: Doesn't really follow a natural thought process
[12
:12 AM] Nouvelle: I think I see what you mean. you say he went from trying to make claiming to himself seem appealing, to making siding with prims look bad?
[12:13 AM] LG: Sort of
[12:13 AM] LG: My main focus is reallt
[12:13 AM] LG: Making prims look bad > making the people who claim to prims look bad
[12:13 AM] LG: And why that's a faulty progression
[12:13 AM] Nouvelle: hmm, I see
[12:13 AM] LG: esp when he subtly flips on prims being scummy
[12:14 AM] LG: It's hard because his first posts are super passive
[12:14 AM] Nouvelle: I think it is odd he would say anything about those claiming to prims at all, given that he previously stated that prims wasn't necessarily bad
[12:14 AM] LG: But I think it reads weird
[12:14 AM] Nouvelle: pretty sure he said in-thread at some point that "prims is a stronger player than me so you could claim to him instead," something to that effect
[12:14 AM] LG: hm
[12:14 AM] Nouvelle: sec I'll try to find it
[12:14 AM] LG: Don't remember that post
[12:14 AM] LG: Aight
[12:15 AM] Nouvelle: it's part of his pm with greencaps
[12:15 AM] Nouvelle: "Elieson - Today at 3:39 PM
tl;dr I think prims is more qualified to lead town than I am, as I think he's a better player than I am
that said
I don't trust him as town leader, I just acknowledge his capabilities
i think that's about the simplest way I can explain it"
[12:15 AM] LG: yuck
[12:15 AM] Nouvelle: so... hmm, ok, I can see some flip flopping
[12:15 AM] LG: That's really wishy washy
[12:16 AM] Nouvelle: mhm
[12:16 AM] LG: Supporting and bring him down
[12:16 AM] LG: At the same time

Above are logs with GP that have the basis of my case. DM me for further inquiries.

 

[Refa]

##Unvote

##Vote: Elieson

Sheeping LG's case.

 

[Bluedoom]

https://pastebin.com/nL7NHPkp

Feel like getting defensive over votes on someone who you want to lynch is pretty bad. Also I don't understand the kirsche vote, is it because he's trying to pin SB and Snike as a scumteam, or is it because of his aggressiveness, or both? I don't have a problem with the Mich read but saying Mich is town because everyone else thinks he is town isn't a good justification for ignoring Mich, at least, that's what I infer from the logs posted in thread. If Snike says that he finds Mich noob town in his convo with SB, why should that change kirsche's mind? That isn't a convincing answer because it could come from either alignment. The shift from Junko-->kirsche feels off because I don't understand why he's voting kirsche right here. Apart from trying to pin SB/Snike as a scumteam(which I agree is pushing it),  kirsche's case on Snike is solid IMO.

 

#PlayingOClikenOC

 

##Vote:Snike

[Green Poet]

Spoiler

test post to make sure I know how to condense text with spoilers correctly with the new forum system

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[Green Poet]

Spoiler

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 5:47 PM

I think prims is looking very townie after his exchange with mich in the general chat. I don't see scum working that hard in the earlygame

in general, putting oneself in high visibility is also just a lot of hassle that scum shouldn't have to go through unless it's expected from them by meta or s.t

I haven't been comfortable enough to claim to him yet though, I don't think there's good enough reason to claim to a leader until we know a fair bit more

I don't really get the shinori cases, but I also haven't talked to him yet so

Greencapps-Yesterday at 5:50 PM

I'm pretty much on the same page as you too

Though I think Shinori is definitely town after my convo with him

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 5:52 PM

hmm, I see

atm I'm leaning mich town and JB scum

based on their reactions in-thread and in the general chat

Greencapps-Yesterday at 5:53 PM

Mich is def town

He's acting just like last game

And yea that exchange is certainly incriminating for JB

Maybe the Maf thought he'd be an easy kill cause most dislike his play

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 5:59 PM

yeah, from what I remember in his previous two games, mich folds to pressure pretty easily

would make for an easy mislynch

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:00 PM

Literally last game in a shellnut

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:00 PM

I remember his maf play was pretty distinctive in FEH mafia and it doesn't seem like that this game, like he's voting prims back

feel like scum!mich would be way more self-defensive and repeating the "why do you guys think I'm scum?" spiel

so JB not picking up on this is kinda sus

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:00 PM

Ya

Also Mich was right and he refused to back down

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:01 PM

yep

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:02 PM

I'd be ok with a lynch on him cause I'm not feeling scum off of pretty much anyone else

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:03 PM

same. though I need to read the shinori case

both prims and sb voting means a lot to me, since they're historically very sharp town players

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:03 PM

It's just pressure to get talking

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:03 PM

ah

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:03 PM

I don't think there's any definitive case

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:28 PM

thoughts on JB's unvote?

no explanation is odd

the timing of it feels reactionary almost, cuz I've been talking to some other people as well about JB's mich push and it could be that a buddy told him to lay off

I'm sure I'm not the only one either

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:42 PM

Yea it's very bizarre

So Prims just did the same

Weird

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:50 PM

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:51 PM

Though I guess it has more context than JB

Seeing as Shinori has started talking

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:51 PM

if his was just a shinori prod, then yeah

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:51 PM

I'm pretty sure they all are

JB has no reason to though

Cause Mich has been silent

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:52 PM

yeah

do you know if anyone has actually talked to JB

Greencapps-Yesterday at 6:53 PM

None that I've talked to have mentioned it yet no

Mich is offline so

That's a dead end

I'm gonna shoot him a message

Greencapps-Yesterday at 7:10 PM

He says he talked to Mich

Decided to unvote yesterday

But forgot and fell asleep

I asked why he didn't just say that in the thread

Asked why he needed to

I then told him it looks weird

And he asked if I was accusing him of being scum for holding on to a D1 vote too long

Which wasn't even the point

And is also extremely defensive of him

Nouvelle-Yesterday at 7:13 PM

to me the "I was going to do it yesterday but forgot" is what sounds the most off

if you're gonna just drop a single ##unvote and hit "post"

that doesn't take terribly long? but the effect is significant

I'm not sure I buy it

Greencapps-Yesterday at 7:14 PM

Exactly

Logs between Greencaps and myself.

##Vote: JB

I think I've talked to a majority of the playerlist about this case, but feel free to message me for clarification.

As can be seen above, I think LG's case is solid, and would be willing to sheep it and consolidate on Elie if it comes to that. I would still primarily prefer to lynch JB.

[Jaybee]

Spoiler

 

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:28 PM

hi

i feel like the miscommunication here

is that you think "town leader" is a given role

and you interpreted prims role as = "town leader"

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:29 PM

Uhm what

What are you trying to say exactly

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:29 PM

k uh

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:29 PM

Because i'm confused

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:30 PM

I am assuming that all you know about Prims so far

is that he fakeclaimed "every town in the game should have a PM saying that Prims is town"

am i right

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:30 PM

Yes.

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:30 PM

yeah he said that just to see your reaction

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:30 PM

Ok....

I was wondering if it had to do something with my role

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:30 PM

he should have a separate role

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:31 PM

I'm so confused.

What just happened even?

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:31 PM

he told you a fairly believable lie to see your reaction

and in the process everybody got confused

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:31 PM

Well, yeah it was believable.

I have a pretty useful role this time, not gonna lie.

I don't just want to hand it over.

And die again.

Watch my last few games if you want to know how I feel

Also, what's this about formatting issues

Doesn't it show a thing which says: ''Remove formatting?'' That's how I copy/pasted it

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:34 PM

but if your role is as useful as you say it is

useful to the point where scum might consider a N1 kill

k wait i'm down the wrong track

17 players right so lets say it's 12/5 or something idk

you have a ~1/12 chance of dying if scum doesnt know anything

and if scum knows you're good you should be diead

*dead

now how would scum know you have a good role if you only tell prims?

I feel like I'm confusing myself

BASICALLY

the line of thinking that says "I might die if I claim to Prims" is quite similar to saying "Prims is scum"

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:37 PM

That's not how it is

I don't know what she is

She might be town, and she might be scum

I don't know.

That is why I don't feel like flaunting my vote around like today's paper

I never said she was scum.

But you're just not getting what i'm trying to tell you

JBCWK-Last Friday at 10:42 PM

yeah prims and i were chatting rly soon after game start so i'm more comfortable claiming to him i guess

Michelaar-Last Friday at 10:44 PM

I think this was more of a miscommunication than anything else tbh

 

I've not played a game with Mich before so I wouldn't know how he plays as town vs scum

If you think I wasn't being entirely forward about the overslept thing then w/e, logs with Mich showing that we cleared it up at around 2245 Friday for me, then I unvoted on Saturday 1018. Admittedly I was way more defensive than I needed to be though

[Jaybee]

jesus is there any way to not have to start posts with spoilers

 

---

 

I see LG's case on Elie. I'm trying to reconcile Elie's play (if you're scum going to undermine TL I think you should be asking for claims because if Elie's role is truly expendable it might be worth it to trade his life for claims? VS actively trying to undermine TL with his wording, which feels straight up anti-town) with LG's case and I see a clearer line as scum.

 

##Vote: Elie

[riariadne]

Votals and vote history:

Walrein (0): Prims 
Greencapps (0): Prims
Bartozio (0): Greencapps
Shinori (1): Refa, Elieson, Prims, Elieson, SB
Junko (2): Green Poet, Snike, Elieson, Michelaar
Marth (1): Walrein
Refa (0): Bartozio
Michelaar (0): Jaybee
Elieson (4): SB, kirsche, Greencapps, Bartozio, LG, Refa, Jaybee
Prims (0): Michelaar
Green Poet (0): Greencapps
Snike (1): kirsche
kirsche (3): SB, Snike, Marth
Walrein (1): Prims
Jaybee (1): Green Poet

Phase ends in 20 hours 20 minutes

Edited November 12, 2017 by Reinfleche
i can count

[Junk]

##vote green poet

while I actually think her case is okay, the way she's going about it is weird, prims bought up the fact that she didn't actually vote jb despite having a case on him for a while and when I asked her about it this was her response,

"hmm, I was planning on talking it over with greencaps again before voting. he's also on board with a JB lynch but we're asking around to collect accounts on who's allegedly talked with JB first, and what JB's told them"

I feel like this is basically an excuse to make sure people think the Lynch is good so she is safe, she had a pretty substantive *(well for d1 IMO) case already, not sure why she couldn't just vote then, also she asks here 

"would you be on board with a JB lynch? and/or who else do you think is scum?"

Which again feels like trying to see if she can get a jb Lynch to be safe, feel like town would have just asked for my thoughts on jb, not immediately ask if I want to Lynch them

[Elieson]

##Unvote

##Vote LG

 

Please, what even is this crappy case of yours. You're only highlighting things I've said in-thread, all of which actually make sense if you think about it. I've been arguing the idea of using your head to think before immediately claiming to prims, by presenting myself as a fair option using the same logic that prims had used up until that time. If you think I'm subliminally trying to collect claims despite me going out of my way not to collect claims, you're very mistaken. Additionally, considering the quantity of people who have already claimed to prims based on timings and such, with hardly any vocal support for it.

 

Like, why am I scum? Why is it scummy that I'm attacking the idea of claiming to TL!Prims immediately into D1? It's not and I'm fairly sure you realize that. 

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[12:15 AM] Nouvelle: it's part of his pm with greencaps
[12:15 AM] Nouvelle: "Elieson - Today at 3:39 PM
tl;dr I think prims is more qualified to lead town than I am, as I think he's a better player than I am
that said
I don't trust him as town leader, I just acknowledge his capabilities
i think that's about the simplest way I can explain it"
[12:15 AM] LG: yuck

Like, highlighting this even out of context, especially when WAYYYY before that, SB summarized a chat that we had which included me basically saying

On 11/10/2017 at 10:56 AM, SB. said:

but in my talk with him he said that he was willing to take the bullet for Prims early on as his reasoning for the post.

So you're not reading everything, you're just skimming earlygame and going on what you consider a gut read, then applying one specific quoted element against a gutread of your own. You're very much missing out on details but if you're going as far as to talk to people behind the scenes about stuff that is ENTIRELY in the open, then I'd say with confidence that you're scum for doing so, especially that until less than 12 hrs ago, you and I haven't even said a word to each other in private. 

[Elieson]

Quote

10 November 2017

[21:56] LG: Elie waffles on prims
[21:56] LG: Pretty hardcore

why did i finally get an OC message from you yesterday when you're tellin ppl this in private since practically the beginning of the game?

[SB.]

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[SB.]

Sorry not sorry.

 

[17:49] Greencapps: Yea I know and I have no problem with GP using our logs but she cut them off and as a result the read differently
[17:50] Greencapps: Also didn't ask if I was still on board before going live
[17:50] sb: oh
[17:50] sb: thats weird
[17:50] Greencapps: It's sorta the same problem I had with Eli early on
[17:50] sb: i'd post my logs with people explaining shit without asking but maybe im just a degenerate
[17:52] Greencapps: She left out when she replied back saying that Mich sent her logs confirming JB's story which is kinda important
[17:52] sb: huh
[17:52] sb: lemme reread the logs to see what you're talking about
[17:53] Greencapps: [1:35 AM] Nouvelle: JBCWK - Yesterday at 3:34 PM
but if your role is as useful as you say it is
useful to the point where scum might consider a N1 kill
k wait i'm down the wrong track
17 players right so lets say it's 12/5 or something idk
you have a ~1/12 chance of dying if scum doesnt know anything
and if scum knows you're good you should be diead
*dead
now how would scum know you have a good role if you only tell prims?
I feel like I'm confusing myself
BASICALLY
the line of thinking that says "I might die if I claim to Prims" is quite similar to saying "Prims is scum"
Michelaar - Yesterday at 3:37 PM
That's not how it is
I don't know what she is
She might be town, and she might be scum
I don't know.
That is why I don't feel like flaunting my vote around like today's paper
I never said she was scum.
But you're just not getting what i'm trying to tell you
JBCWK - Yesterday at 3:42 PM
yeah prims and i were chatting rly soon after game start so i'm more comfortable claiming to him i guess
Michelaar - Yesterday at 3:44 PM
I think this was more of a miscommunication than anything else tbh
[1:36 AM] Nouvelle: ^ log sent to me from mich, between JB and mich
[1:36 AM] Nouvelle: "she" most likely mistakenly refers to prims
[4:48 PM] Greencapps: So he wasn't lying
[4:48 PM] Greencapps: Huh
[4:48 PM] Greencapps: Ok
[17:56] sb: oh i see
[17:56] sb: you mean in context of when she said this
[17:56] sb: Nouvelle-Yesterday at 6:28 PM

thoughts on JB's unvote?

no explanation is odd

the timing of it feels reactionary almost, cuz I've been talking to some other people as well about JB's mich push and it could be that a buddy told him to lay off

I'm sure I'm not the only one either
[17:56] sb: that its weird?
[17:57] Greencapps: Want me to just send the whole log
[17:57] sb: its in thread i think
[17:57] sb: but do you mean like
[17:57] Greencapps: It is
[17:57] sb: its weird that she didnt acknowledge that JB and Mich talked
[17:57] Greencapps: Yea
[17:57] sb: which could be why JB backed off
[17:57] sb: yeah that makes sense
[17:58] Greencapps: That was the lynchpin of our argument
[17:58] Greencapps: And we waited to talk till we got confirmation from Mich
[17:58] Greencapps: But for some reason she still talked
[17:58] sb: did GP post her case after she got the reply
[17:59] sb: or before
[17:59] Greencapps: Wayyyyy after
[17:59] sb: ic
[17:59] sb: yeah thats weird
[17:59] Greencapps: I think
[17:59] Greencapps: Let me check time stamps
[18:01] Greencapps: Yea
[18:01] Greencapps: She sent me the message yesterday
[18:01] Greencapps: But posted the case today
[18:02] sb: yeah that seems like a weird ommital
[18:02] sb: to keep her case valid
[18:02] sb: instead of dropping it
[18:03] sb: do you mind if i post his in thread then
[18:04] Greencapps: Go ahead
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[18:04] Greencapps: I was about to before you messaged me

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[SB.]

oh i put my vote in fucking spoilers

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[Greencapps]

3 minutes ago, SB. said:

oh i put my vote in fucking spoilers

Gg

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