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What do you look for in seasonals?  

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  1. 1. What do you look for in seasonals?

    • A literal interpretation of the theme (Ex. Spring, Christmas, and NY banners)
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    • A vague interpretation of the theme (Ex. Love Abounds)
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    • Interpretations of a plausible AU (Ex. Dancer Inigo)
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    • A more modern aesthetic (Ex. School uniforms)
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    • Fanservice (Ex. Bridal Blessings, Summer banners, Tharja's Christmas bikini)
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    • Memes (Ex. Summer Leo)
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    • Aesthetic doesn't matter; only skills
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    • Aesthetic doesn't matter; just my favorite character
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    • Aesthetic doesn't matter; other
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    • Insert vague "other" option here
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16 hours ago, Arthur97 said:

Well, Bridelia, New Year's Corrin, and Valentine Roy have fairly believable weapons.  Note that they are all bows.

Corrin's Hama Ya is not believable at all as a weapon. The arrows have no arrowhead. They won't pierce skin beyond a few dozen feet.

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I went with vague interpretation, plausible alternatives, fanservice, and favorite character. For fanservice, well, much of the game itself really serves as fanservice for fans of the FE franchise. But even within a more narrow ambit, I would consider the CYL heroes to be fanservice, especially given their meta references to Smash, along with Horse Eirika. So that's enough for me to want to check that box.

I like seeing my favorite characters get alts, although I'll add the caveat that I prefer for them not to be terribly garish or ridiculous in appearance. I skipped the spring banner the first time around, despite Lucina being on it, for just that reason.

And I prefer vague interpretations and plausible alternatives. Lots of room for creative and interesting outfits this way.

15 hours ago, Anacybele said:

And I'm seriously shocked at how many people are voting the "vague theme" option. How is that better? Why wouldn't people want the chosen theme to be more obviously followed? And we only had ONE banner that was vague so far. Doesn't mean others will look nice.

For a fantasy game set in a different world, I'd rather have creative and different lore presented in the game, as opposed to just having our world's holidays imported wholesale over there. It's a different world, there should be different holidays. I also think it's more creative.

The second reason for me is that I get tired of our holidays, and think that they're often garish, gaudy, and overdone. They also go on for way too long. Christmas lasts for at least two months now; Valentine's is a month. So if I'm already tired of seeing red, white, and hearts all over the place, it should make sense why I don't want to see more of it in the game. I also think dressing people up in clothes adorned with hearts everywhere is just tacky. Plus, I don't even celebrate some of these holidays, so why would I want the game to try to foist them on me? Hence, a vague option where there's a new holiday in-game is preferable to me.

11 hours ago, Rafiel's Aria said:

I think that's fair enough. While I know I'd love to see Knoll or Ewan (or any other new character) in the game more than I'd like to see a copy of just about any other character currently in the roster (though if one of my boys got an alternate version, I'd probably scream), having Eirika in the game as a useful unit that fills a niche is nice. Though there will come a point where all the useful niches have been filled. Honestly, we're not missing many. We'd really just need non-seasonal armor and flying mages as well as colorless fliers and armors. I guess dagger cavalry as well? (Plz Yukimura)

I can't speak for everyone who voted, but I can speak for myself, so I suppose there's that. Whether or not others agree, IDK. As far as a vague interpretation goes, I prefer it because to me, it's more creative. You've already kind of hinted that you disagree there, but to me when someone says "love" or "Valentine"s Day," the obvious things are chocolate, hearts, roses, pink, red, etc. None of those things are bad, and people that use those elements to design a themed "something or other" aren't wrong to interpret it that way. As I said, there's not really an incorrect way to interpret love. Tim Burton's movies, Shakespeare's plays, and the Beatles' music all toy with themes of love in vastly different ways, and none of them are wrong. 

But I think it takes a really creative mind to go above and beyond to interpret a theme in a way that's not quite so mainstream. I also like vague themes because they're more open to interpretation. For me, a guy dressed like cupid...is a guy dressed like cupid. I'm sure people could write a 50 page thesis about that significance, but the common man probably can't. I like being given a little something to think about that I can also enjoy. You could probably ask 10 different people how they believe the costumes in Love Abounds relate to "love" and you might get 10 different answers, and that, in my opinion, makes the FEH world just a little bit deeper. I thoroughly enjoyed this new paralogue because it honestly felt like something that could happen in the FEH universe and was very touching. 

However, if you want a more simple answer to your question, people just have different taste. I personally think it's interesting to see what people think and why.

I agree on the points about the creativity of new holidays in-game.

As for the 50 page thesis remark, that made me think of this class I took in college on Don Quixote, which was taught by two professors, who alternated each class. For one of the sessions, the professor who was teaching that day spent the entire class talking about a simile involving a pomegranate. We got to hear the history of pomegranates, how they were used in the days of Cervantes, their literary significance... He pretty much bored the class to tears. The other professor was great though, and the following class he said straight up that he didn't care at all about pomegranates or any nonsense like that, and that we should just focus on enjoying the book.

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2 minutes ago, Astellius said:

The second reason for me is that I get tired of our holidays, and think that they're often garish, gaudy, and overdone.

Hm, I guess we're different here, because I don't get tired of them. At least not until they're over and another one is on the way. Also, even if you don't celebrate some of the holidays, there are other people that do.

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33 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said:

Corrin's Hama Ya is not believable at all as a weapon. The arrows have no arrowhead. They won't pierce skin beyond a few dozen feet.

Okay, never noticed that. The weapon itself is still viable though, just get him some real arrows.

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1 minute ago, Anacybele said:

Hm, I guess we're different here, because I don't get tired of them. At least not until they're over and another one is on the way. Also, even if you don't celebrate some of the holidays, there are other people that do.

Well, of course other people celebrate some of the holidays I do not. Where did I say that nobody celebrates the holidays that I don't celebrate, or anything remotely close to that? That would be a silly claim to make. I was merely offering the reasons for my own preferences, since you asked why people would pick that option at all over a literal interpretation.

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1 minute ago, Astellius said:

Well, of course other people celebrate some of the holidays I do not. Where did I say that nobody celebrates the holidays that I don't celebrate, or anything remotely close to that? That would be a silly claim to make. I was merely offering the reasons for my own preferences, since you asked why people would pick that option at all over a literal interpretation.

Well it looked to me like you said since you don't celebrate those holidays, IS shouldn't put them in the game. That sounds kind of selfish when there are people that DO celebrate them.

I'm just wondering why most people would rather a theme barely be followed than actually truly followed. Because as I said, why even have a theme if you're hardly going to follow it? Might as well not even be one and just do whatever you want.

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13 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

.I'm just wondering why most people would rather a theme barely be followed than actually truly followed. Because as I said, why even have a theme if you're hardly going to follow it? Might as well not even be one and just do whatever you want.

They never said the theme of the current seasonals was gonna be Valentines, it was just a theme of love and giving gifts is a way to show love, they are following their theme.

As for myself, I like vague interpretations since it allows for more symbolism and also uniqueness. Personally, I'm sick of typical Christmas themes, Halloween, swimsuits during the summer etc. I know that if they do a Paddy's day banner and everyone is in green, I'm gonna puke, I fucking hate Paddy's day.

I also like how with these vague interpretations, they can add more lore to the FE universe and create FE only things.

I also voted for the AU once. I think that they are good ways of showing characters in different lights ala Inigo. Though, by the looks of it with Mage!Eirika, they may become normal banners rather than seasonal which I don't mind either.

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19 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

I'm just wondering why most people would rather a theme barely be followed than actually truly followed. Because as I said, why even have a theme if you're hardly going to follow it? Might as well not even be one and just do whatever you want.

Well, I was curious as to why they took the banner in the direction in they did as well, so I did a bit of research. If you read up on the wiki for Valentine's Day, the LA banner shares many similarities with the values that shaped the holiday and how was celebrated before the 18th century. Even if it doesn't fit with the modern commercialized version of the holiday, it fits fairly consistently with the roots of the tradition.

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10 minutes ago, Azz said:

They never said the theme of the current seasonals was gonna be Valentines, it was just a theme of love and giving gifts is a way to show love, they are following their theme.

As for myself, I like vague interpretations since it allows for more symbolism and also uniqueness. Personally, I'm sick of typical Christmas themes, Halloween, swimsuits during the summer etc. I know that if they do a Paddy's day banner and everyone is in green, I'm gonna puke, I fucking hate Paddy's day.

I also like how with these vague interpretations, they can add more lore to the FE universe and create FE only things.

I also voted for the AU once. I think that they are good ways of showing characters in different lights ala Inigo. Though, by the looks of it with Mage!Eirika, they may become normal banners rather than seasonal which I don't mind either.

They never said the Halloween banner was going to be Halloween. Or that the Christmas banner was going to be Christmas. But we still got those holidays. So it was natural to expect a banner that was Valentine's Day for this month.

Also, why are you sick of those? They're fun! Halloween alone opens up all kinds of possibilities too, since you could dress up as just about anything for it.

What lore is added with this banner? I see none.

The AU idea isn't bad though, I'm cool with it.

9 minutes ago, riperkz said:

Well, I was curious as to why they took the banner in the direction in they did as well, so I did a bit of research. If you read up on the wiki for Valentine's Day, the LA banner shares many similarities with the values that shaped the holiday and how was celebrated before the 18th century. Even if it doesn't fit with the modern commercialized version of the holiday, it fits fairly consistently with the roots of the tradition.

Well, even if that's true, I think I still would've preferred the hearts/roses/pink/red/white/purple stuff idea. But that's me.

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I'll tell you what 'season' I'd like to see be represented, no matter how unlikely.

Bonfire Night.

Get the mages in, idk, Sanaki, Merric, Linde and Boey, dress them up a bit, give them sparklers, ka-boom.

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I don't have preference for one or other but I definitely don't think IS should stick with literal definition only, because then we would get same things over and over with just different characters in costumes. I am sure that would cone with huge backslash.

So yes if we get one year vague interpretation, next one literal and third some goofy meme I would be happy with that.

Well majority people would be fine either way. And if there is one or two @Anacybele, that can't be helped, you can never satisfy everyone.

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15 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

They never said the Halloween banner was going to be Halloween. Or that the Christmas banner was going to be Christmas. But we still got those holidays. So it was natural to expect a banner that was Valentine's Day for this month.

Also, why are you sick of those? They're fun! Halloween alone opens up all kinds of possibilities too, since you could dress up as just about anything for it.

What lore is added with this banner? I see none.

The AU idea isn't bad though, I'm cool with it.

Well, even if that's true, I think I still would've preferred the hearts/roses/pink/red/white/purple stuff idea. But that's me.

1) Was it though? We all thought the performing arts banner was gonna be Halloween, but it wasn't. No one expected two beach banners. And yes, it was natural to expect V day, but you're acting like they promised it even though they never did.

2) Because they are over saturated and highly commercialised to the point I'm tired of them before they even have begun.

3) I never said this banner added lore, I said here could be a possibility of lore added. However, we do now know how in Elibe they celebrate a love festival. It's the little tid bits that count, not the massive shpeal on a 100 year war. It adds personality.

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33 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Also, why are you sick of those? They're fun! Halloween alone opens up all kinds of possibilities too, since you could dress up as just about anything for it.

You don't speak for everyone. What's fun for you isn't fun for all others.

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36 minutes ago, Azz said:

1) Was it though? We all thought the performing arts banner was gonna be Halloween, but it wasn't. No one expected two beach banners. And yes, it was natural to expect V day, but you're acting like they promised it even though they never did.

2) Because they are over saturated and highly commercialised to the point I'm tired of them before they even have begun.

3) I never said this banner added lore, I said here could be a possibility of lore added. However, we do now know how in Elibe they celebrate a love festival. It's the little tid bits that count, not the massive shpeal on a 100 year war. It adds personality.

I don't mean that they promised it, but maybe I did get my hopes up too high. Still, I wasn't wrong to expect Valentine's Day, even if I still ended up disappointed.

That's...really surprising. I never thought of those holidays to be so overdone at all. But I guess different strokes.

I don't see any personality or anything added here, but okay...

14 minutes ago, NoNameAtAll said:

You don't speak for everyone. What's fun for you isn't fun for all others.

Sorry, not what I meant to do. I just meant to ask why he didn't think they were fun and simply say that I thought they were fun. I'm surprised that some people don't find these things fun though...

43 minutes ago, Tenzen12 said:

Well majority people would be fine either way. And if there is one or two @Anacybele, that can't be helped, you can never satisfy everyone.

True, yes.

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6 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

I don't mean that they promised it, but maybe I did get my hopes up too high. Still, I wasn't wrong to expect Valentine's Day, even if I still ended up disappointed.

That's...really surprising. I never thought of those holidays to be so overdone at all. But I guess different strokes.

I don't see any personality or anything added here, but okay...

I don't mean to sound rude here, but you're a self admitted Elibe hater and I feel that has influenced your opinion. I'm sure if the Love Abounds banner was Tellius, you wouldn't have batted an eye or if Hector was the Legendary Hero instead of Ike you would have been pissed like the people who were pissed that Ike was.

I'm not trying to say that you hating Elibe is wrong, it's not but I'm just saying.

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6 minutes ago, Azz said:

I don't mean to sound rude here, but you're a self admitted Elibe hater and I feel that has influenced your opinion. I'm sure if the Love Abounds banner was Tellius, you wouldn't have batted an eye or if Hector was the Legendary Hero instead of Ike you would have been pissed like the people who were pissed that Ike was.

I'm not trying to say that you hating Elibe is wrong, it's not but I'm just saying.

Nah, not really. I don't think any personality/lore was added with Summer Freddy and lots of people know how much I like him, so... Some minor details like his swimming skill might've been added, but that''s it. No notable additional personality traits or anything. And I doubt a Tellius seasonal banner would add much personality at all either.

And I might've been a bit disappointed if Hector was a legendary hero instead of Ike, but I wouldn't be mad or anything. I'd just think it gives Ike a chance to be one too.

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I far prefer the more subtle special banner we just got to the others. I mean, one or two literal banners are ok, like I don't mind the Christmas or Halloween ones, but after so many it gets a bit tiring. Some are pretty cringy too, like the Easter outfits robbing characters of their dignity, and I would prefer if the summer characters were more like Robin and less like Xander with their weapons. I would've probably not spent half as many orbs as I have on Love Abounds had it been characters just wearing heart themed outfits. 

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@Anacybele - I kind of hope SOMEONE managed to answer your question. Honestly, it's going to come down to, some people have different tastes, or at least several people on this forum do. You've said/implied a few times:

1 hour ago, Anacybele said:

I'm just wondering why most people would rather a theme barely be followed than actually truly followed. Because as I said, why even have a theme if you're hardly going to follow it? Might as well not even be one and just do whatever you want.

I think the folks in the topic have pretty well explained that the theme itself isn't Valentine's Day. It's love. Because it's vague, people interpret it in many ways. You look at the costumes and don't interpret love. That's fine. A lot of others do. If you want more people to explain how they interpret love, ask. If you just want to keep saying, "I don't understand..." that's not going to be a very productive use of your time because that's how people get frustrated. If you're tired of trying to understand, say you'll consider the opinions, but you just don't agree. No problem there. No one's trying to change your mind, just make you see the opposite side of the argument. 

Also, to answer your comment from before: if you only consider a "Valentine's movie" to be a movie about Valentine's Day or something that has the aesthetic you're talking about, I'm not sure I can name one. I know the 50 Shades of Gray movie a while back came out on Valentine's Day. People probably consider that a holiday movie. Oh wait! There's My Bloody Valentine. It's a horror movie about Valentine's Day...kind of. Well a murderer. In 3D. But honestly, I'd consider anything mildly romantic I watch with my beau to fall under the category. The Dark Knight Rises, any cheesy Hallmark movie, Blood and Chocolate, The Lion King... 

2 hours ago, Astellius said:

I agree on the points about the creativity of new holidays in-game.

As for the 50 page thesis remark, that made me think of this class I took in college on Don Quixote, which was taught by two professors, who alternated each class. For one of the sessions, the professor who was teaching that day spent the entire class talking about a simile involving a pomegranate. We got to hear the history of pomegranates, how they were used in the days of Cervantes, their literary significance... He pretty much bored the class to tears. The other professor was great though, and the following class he said straight up that he didn't care at all about pomegranates or any nonsense like that, and that we should just focus on enjoying the book.

I think I'm having war flashbacks... *shudders* I love English and reading and writing but the depth at which people interpret things in novels... It's scary. I had friends write a 20 page paper on "The Red Wheelbarrow." I think some of them died inside. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy interpreting things...but sometimes...I think it can (and has been) taken too far. XD At the very least you came out of the experience with a ton of pomegranate trivia. 

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4 minutes ago, Rafiel's Aria said:

@Anacybele - I kind of hope SOMEONE managed to answer your question. Honestly, it's going to come down to, some people have different tastes, or at least several people on this forum do. You've said/implied a few times:

I think the folks in the topic have pretty well explained that the theme itself isn't Valentine's Day. It's love. Because it's vague, people interpret it in many ways. You look at the costumes and don't interpret love. That's fine. A lot of others do. If you want more people to explain how they interpret love, ask. If you just want to keep saying, "I don't understand..." that's not going to be a very productive use of your time because that's how people get frustrated. If you're tired of trying to understand, say you'll consider the opinions, but you just don't agree. No problem there. No one's trying to change your mind, just make you see the opposite side of the argument. 

Also, to answer your comment from before: if you only consider a "Valentine's movie" to be a movie about Valentine's Day or something that has the aesthetic you're talking about, I'm not sure I can name one. I know the 50 Shades of Gray movie a while back came out on Valentine's Day. People probably consider that a holiday movie. Oh wait! There's My Bloody Valentine. It's a horror movie about Valentine's Day...kind of. Well a murderer. In 3D. But honestly, I'd consider anything mildly romantic I watch with my beau to fall under the category. The Dark Knight Rises, any cheesy Hallmark movie, Blood and Chocolate, The Lion King...

Yeah, my question was sort of answered, I suppose. But if this really isn't a Valentine's Day banner, why is everyone calling them Valentine's units? That's the only thing that really bugs me. But I haven't said anything because I don't want to risk annoying people. I hope I didn't just sound annoying with that...

I know about different interpretations of love, you don't have to explain that to me. xP

I see. Yeah, I don't think there are many actual Valentine's Day movies, so it is understandable to watch something with love in it in general instead.

 

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4 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Yeah, my question was sort of answered, I suppose. But if this really isn't a Valentine's Day banner, why is everyone calling them Valentine's units? That's the only thing that really bugs me. But I haven't said anything because I don't want to risk annoying people. I hope I didn't just sound annoying with that...

I know about different interpretations of love, you don't have to explain that to me. xP

I see. Yeah, I don't think there are many actual Valentine's Day movies, so it is understandable to watch something with love in it in general instead.

Probably because that's the holiday we associate them with even if it's not the name of the holiday the units are celebrating in the game. Just like we associate the "winter" units with Christmas and the "spring" units with Easter. Not everyone is going to associate them with those things because they might not celebrate those holidays. For me, the Love Abounds units remind me of love which reminds me of Valentine's Day which just started over here, so I have no problem calling them Valentine units or LA units or medieval units. You don't have to call them that. Just let people do what they want. lol No need to go around policing them unless the error is so egregious it's harmful.

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38 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

True, yes.

I am glad you understand that. And for that very reason when you are unsatisfied with something you should always first look on it from general players and IS angle before deciding it something IS should shouldn't do or if you gave just personal issue with that. If you keep that on mind when commenting you will come much less offensive, then you do now.

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4 minutes ago, Rafiel's Aria said:

Probably because that's the holiday we associate them with even if it's not the name of the holiday the units are celebrating in the game. Just like we associate the "winter" units with Christmas and the "spring" units with Easter. Not everyone is going to associate them with those things because they might not celebrate those holidays. For me, the Love Abounds units remind me of love which reminds me of Valentine's Day which just started over here, so I have no problem calling them Valentine units or LA units or medieval units. You don't have to call them that. Just let people do what they want. lol No need to go around policing them unless the error is so egregious it's harmful.

Well, I guess, but keep in mind that the spring units were dressed as bunnies and the winter units were dressed in slightly Santaish variations of their normal outfits. :P So Easter and Christmas are there, they just wouldn't call them those things themselves.

But yeah, no need to go around policing people like that.

EDIT: Tenzen, where was I ever offensive in my recent posts in here? I also don't remember ever insulting anyone in here at all, but okay...

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In a way creation of this whole thread can be at least partially attributed to your offensive comments in banner thread. It's better now as I you acknowledged it's mainly your personal opinion. Which is exactly why it isn't offensive anymore.

What I am saying: keep with that from now. You can see it's much more relaxed discussion that way, isn't it?

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