Arthur97 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said: It was an attempt to correct the major event that shaped the future. Emmeryn's death was supposed to happen to create a causality. Even if the method was changed, the event still transpires. Basically just added new events before it. Improbable? You mean how it's also improbable for magical entities to suddenly open a portal through space-time and allowing time travel? Cosmic forces do not have to abide by the laws of physics that humans are bound by. If Lucina and the other children were to be birthed in the original timeline in a specific time because of how much of an effect they have, especially Lucina, then time would influence events to happen so that the birth happens precisely as such. So the course correction took them further off course. Sounds more like time wanted to change courses. The circumstances of her death may have been more important than the death itself. In any case, there isn't much of a case for time trying to correct itself since, as I pointed out, any "corrections" just throw things off course. Chrom was never critically wounded like he was supposed to be that night, the Fire Emblem was fully recovered, events seem to have happened at an accelerated rate. Hardly anything except Emmeryn still "dying" seems to have been "corrected." As much as I like Lucina, she doesn't seem to really know what she's talking about here, and it's probably her pessimistic streak shining through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: So the course correction took them further off course. Sounds more like time wanted to change courses. The circumstances of her death may have been more important than the death itself. In any case, there isn't much of a case for time trying to correct itself since, as I pointed out, any "corrections" just throw things off course. Chrom was never critically wounded like he was supposed to be that night, the Fire Emblem was fully recovered, events seem to have happened at an accelerated rate. Hardly anything except Emmeryn still "dying" seems to have been "corrected." As much as I like Lucina, she doesn't seem to really know what she's talking about here, and it's probably her pessimistic streak shining through. Ah, but that's just it. Emmeryn doesn't have to "die", cause we clearly see that Emmeryn is alive in the Paralogue, somehow having survived. But she needed to "die" for the case on what her death represents for Chrom mostly. Would Emmeryn have ever tried to fight a war through it all in Awakening? No, she'd have tried to continue with negotiations, avoiding as much bloodshed as possible, because of her pacifistic nature. Chrom needed to become king and thus be someone that would be more ready to take action when necessary. Even after the Plegian war ended, he jumped right into the Valmese war when they threatened him. It's very likely that is what the "death" is needed for. Thus, even though Emmeryn's "death" was altered into a new way, it allowed the events to be performed through the events to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, omegaxis1 said: Ah, but that's just it. Emmeryn doesn't have to "die", cause we clearly see that Emmeryn is alive in the Paralogue, somehow having survived. But she needed to "die" for the case on what her death represents for Chrom mostly. Would Emmeryn have ever tried to fight a war through it all in Awakening? No, she'd have tried to continue with negotiations, avoiding as much bloodshed as possible, because of her pacifistic nature. Chrom needed to become king and thus be someone that would be more ready to take action when necessary. Even after the Plegian war ended, he jumped right into the Valmese war when they threatened him. It's very likely that is what the "death" is needed for. Thus, even though Emmeryn's "death" was altered into a new way, it allowed the events to be performed through the events to come. There are just too many discrepancies. Too much did change. And let's not forget that Aversa was advising Gangrel at this time, who answered to Validar, who had been saved by Grima. Grima could have influenced events through Aversa. Grima very well may have intervened more than you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Arthur97 said: There are just too many discrepancies. Too much did change. And let's not forget that Aversa was advising Gangrel at this time, who answered to Validar, who had been saved by Grima. Grima could have influenced events through Aversa. Grima very well may have intervened more than you think. That's possible, but Gangrel moved in his own hatred for Ylisse. So whether Aversa - Grima had anything to do there is up for debate. Anyways, even if many things did change in terms of those events, that does not mean anything about events pertaining to the birth of the Awakening children. The time stream still corrects many changes so that it can return to the "proper" course of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 2:07 PM, omegaxis1 said: That's possible, but Gangrel moved in his own hatred for Ylisse. So whether Aversa - Grima had anything to do there is up for debate. Anyways, even if many things did change in terms of those events, that does not mean anything about events pertaining to the birth of the Awakening children. The time stream still corrects many changes so that it can return to the "proper" course of events. It was more of a power trip basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said: It was more of a power trip basically. How come I generally only ever see you when you're trying to correct me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsoluteZer0Nova Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Chrom fought against Lon'qu and must have managed to win thus he technically thus meeting the Navarre arcehtype had it not been for Lucina interfering seeing as how he lost due to learning that "Marth" was a woman. Reason why I think it's dumb some people don't think he fits the archetype. *looks at Fire Emblem wiki not having him listed for it* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, AbsoluteZer0Nova said: I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Chrom fought against Lon'qu and must have managed to win thus he technically thus meeting the Navarre arcehtype had it not been for Lucina interfering seeing as how he lost due to learning that "Marth" was a woman. Reason why I think it's dumb some people don't think he fits the archetype. *looks at Fire Emblem wiki not having him listed for it* That is indeed a good point. It does seem like Chrom and Lon'qu might have faced one another, and Lon'qu was indeed a true Navarre archetype there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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