Men of Serenes Forest!

[Tediz64]

@Johann Nope. I tried one puff cause my cousin was pressuring me back when i was 17 but never again since then. I am a mouth breather if that helps. Also that is an interesting fact. I never knew smoking messed with your sense of smell.

 

Also i wasn't saying my weak sense of smell is what ruins or messes with me dieting. I've been told by my mom that when she makes my food she has to put alot of sugar/salt so i can taste it or mention it. Like for example my mom and sister use like 2 or 3 spoons of sugar with their coffee. I use almost like 6-10 depending on if it is brown sugar or white sugar. And when i put salt on my spaghetti or anything else i usually get the reaction "damn, isn't that enough already" after i've already added a little (imo). I heard once apon a time that your sense of smell and taste are somewhat linked. So with a good nose you can really tell and identify flavors/tastes. But with a bad sense of smell i guess you end up doing what i do (in regards to adding salt or what i do with my coffee). But maybe its like you said, we get so used to adding seasoning that isn't good (like salt/sugar) for our health and that is why we eat certain foods that have alot of it since we can taste them. *doesn't feel like going further because i'd would turn into a super long paragraph with unnecessary information and is basically banter*

[Johann]

6 minutes ago, Tediz64 said:

Nope. I tried one puff cause my cousin was pressuring me back when i was 17 but never again since then. I am a mouth breather if that helps. Also that is an interesting fact. I never knew smoking messed with your sense of smell.

Also i wasn't saying my weak sense of smell is what ruins or messes with me dieting. I've been told by my mom that when she makes my food she has to put alot of sugar/salt so i can taste it or mention it. Like for example my mom and sister use like 2 or 3 spoons of sugar with their coffee. I use almost like 6-10 depending on if it is brown sugar or white sugar. And when i put salt on my spaghetti or anything else i usually get the reaction "damn, isn't that enough already" after i've already added a little (imo). I heard once apon a time that your sense of smell and taste are somewhat linked. So with a good nose you can really tell and identify flavors/tastes. But with a bad sense of smell i guess you end up doing what i do (in regards to adding salt or what i do with my coffee). But maybe its like you said, we get so used to adding seasoning that isn't good (like salt/sugar) for our health and that is why we eat certain foods that have alot of it since we can taste them. *doesn't feel like going further because i'd would turn into a super long paragraph with unnecessary information and is basically banter*

Yeah, smell and taste are linked. Do you have nasal problems that make you not normally breathe through your nose?

What I meant about the salt/sugar thing is more about how consuming too much of them makes you crave them. Your brain is programmed to think of them as tasty because they're necessary for survival (in sugar's case, really just any energy source, and taste buds identify sweet with energy rich), so it responds positively to getting more of those tastes. On top of that, both sugar and salt have ranges of healthy levels in the blood that vary by person, and if those levels are exceeded or not met, the body responds one way or another (usually by compensating other fluids to force a balance-- the kidneys and a variety of hormones handle much of this). This compensation act doesn't really fix the problem, it just creates different ones, and the result is that the body ends up thinking it's short on salt or sugar again, so it tells you that it wants more (hence the cravings when you're not even that hungry).

If it helps, when you're craving food, don't think with your tongue, think with your stomach-- are you actually hungry or are you just craving sugar/salt? Most processed food is loaded with one or both, so you have to be a little more self-aware when selecting food, but eventually you'll find yourself not craving (or even wanting) junk food nor eating when you're not really hungry. You might even grow sick of most candy and sugary desserts because you'll find the tastes too rich, and that they don't satisfy your sense of hunger the way something like chicken or pasta would.

[Tediz64]

@Johann Interesting. I don't eat candy or sweet things such as cakes, brownies, cookies and so forth mainly because when i go shopping i don't really see them and if i do i just think the prices are too expensive. I think the only time i get candy is when i go to the movies maybe. So im good on the sweets part. Even at restaurants i rarely order desert. I'll make it a point to think more about when i'm hungry.

 

As for the nasal part, i have no clue. Like if i close my mouth and breath through my nose, i CAN. I guess by reflex i choose my mouth? Is it normal for air to only flow through one nostril at a time? Like right now i tried inhaling but i felt my left nostril getting more air. And when i exhaled it was going out the same way in. *testing* i tried covering up my left nostril leaving only my right one open and it was a little difficult. I was really trying to inhale and exhaling i had to put a little more force. Felt more like i was blowing my nose. I noticed the flow changes though. I don't know how often or under what circumstances but some days my right nostril is doing most of the work (if i consciously try to breath through my nose and when i actually remember i'm doing it) but some days its my left nostril. Are they supposed to be equal? It'd be really cool if the doctor would chime in ( @Rezzy  or at least i heard/read she is one. i might be getting the wrong person) but i appreciate and welcome your feedback too @Johann

[Johann]

1 minute ago, Tediz64 said:

@Johann Interesting. I don't eat candy or sweet things such as cakes, brownies, cookies and so forth mainly because when i go shopping i don't really see them and if i do i just think the prices are too expensive. I think the only time i get candy is when i go to the movies maybe. So im good on the sweets part. Even at restaurants i rarely order desert. I'll make it a point to think more about when i'm hungry.

As for the nasal part, i have no clue. Like if i close my mouth and breath through my nose, i CAN. I guess by reflex i choose my mouth? Is it normal for air to only flow through one nostril at a time? Like right now i tried inhaling but i felt my left nostril getting more air. And when i exhaled it was going out the same way in. *testing* i tried covering up my left nostril leaving only my right one open and it was a little difficult. I was really trying to inhale and exhaling i had to put a little more force. Felt more like i was blowing my nose. I noticed the flow changes though. I don't know how often or under what circumstances but some days my right nostril is doing most of the work (if i consciously try to breath through my nose and when i actually remember i'm doing it) but some days its my left nostril. Are they supposed to be equal? It'd be really cool if the doctor would chime in ( @Rezzy  or at least i heard/read she is one. i might be getting the wrong person) but i appreciate and welcome your feedback too @Johann

It's pretty regular that only one nostril is good and clear at a given time, alternating during the day. It's Spring though, so it's no surprise if you're extra stuffy.

[Tediz64]

Oh ok. That is good. I thought i had a problem. I appreciate your advice/info.

[Rezzy]

26 minutes ago, Tediz64 said:

@Johann Interesting. I don't eat candy or sweet things such as cakes, brownies, cookies and so forth mainly because when i go shopping i don't really see them and if i do i just think the prices are too expensive. I think the only time i get candy is when i go to the movies maybe. So im good on the sweets part. Even at restaurants i rarely order desert. I'll make it a point to think more about when i'm hungry.

 

As for the nasal part, i have no clue. Like if i close my mouth and breath through my nose, i CAN. I guess by reflex i choose my mouth? Is it normal for air to only flow through one nostril at a time? Like right now i tried inhaling but i felt my left nostril getting more air. And when i exhaled it was going out the same way in. *testing* i tried covering up my left nostril leaving only my right one open and it was a little difficult. I was really trying to inhale and exhaling i had to put a little more force. Felt more like i was blowing my nose. I noticed the flow changes though. I don't know how often or under what circumstances but some days my right nostril is doing most of the work (if i consciously try to breath through my nose and when i actually remember i'm doing it) but some days its my left nostril. Are they supposed to be equal? It'd be really cool if the doctor would chime in ( @Rezzy  or at least i heard/read she is one. i might be getting the wrong person) but i appreciate and welcome your feedback too @Johann

It's normal for one nostril to get more flow than the other, and it can change without you really noticing.  It usually only becomes a problem when you have a cold or otherwise have one or two nostrils full of mucus.  I think I missed something in this thread.  This isn't perverted enough.

[Tediz64]

Missed something? I dodged your earlier attempt when you said something about exercise needing to last at least 30 minutes. I just hijacked the thread since i was hoping i could be distraction enough from that earlier feud. Feel free to derail it at this point. I think we should be safe. @Rezzy

[Shoblongoo]

On 6/2/2018 at 8:08 AM, Tediz64 said:

 

Ah man. I was just shy of the 70 score to beat. I got 67....one of the only questions i have is why is a picture of an electric chair next to this list? sure it says you'll do time but nothing about getting the death penalty.

Alright--so I gotta ask.

What are the ones you haven't done? 

[Tediz64]

3 hours ago, Shoblongoo said:

Alright--so I gotta ask.

What are the ones you haven't done? 

Hmmm let's see. The shower, drunk (I don't drink so not possible), high (I don't smoke either), same sex (although I thought about it. Sometimes I think "YOLO" so mine as well), with your ex, and the barter one at the bottom. So that is five in all I haven't done. It was untill a little later in life I did most of those. Like if you had asked me when I was 18 I barely did 3 or 4

[Hawkwing]

So...uh...

Some months ago I took a quiz here, and it was one of the stupider things I've done on the internet (I should have know that there's a difference between thinking/saying "sure, why not?" and "Screw it! I want to do this!"), and after finishing my Serenes Forest Interview, I realized I had a question that I never raised that I'd like to get answered...

Is it more or less manly to, instead of killing it, spare a spider by letting it crawl on your hand, walking through a room full of people, and putting it outside, without flinching, "ew-ing", or any other kind of reaction? Similar question with knocking a snake out of a tree to save a nest full of birds, but sparing said snake afterwords.

Both of these are true stories by the way.

[Johann]

1 hour ago, Hawkwing said:

So...uh...

Some months ago I took a quiz here, and it was one of the stupider things I've done on the internet (I should have know that there's a difference between thinking/saying "sure, why not?" and "Screw it! I want to do this!"), and after finishing my Serenes Forest Interview, I realized I had a question that I never raised that I'd like to get answered...

Is it more or less manly to, instead of killing it, spare a spider by letting it crawl on your hand, walking through a room full of people, and putting it outside, without flinching, "ew-ing", or any other kind of reaction? Similar question with knocking a snake out of a tree to save a nest full of birds, but sparing said snake afterwords.

Both of these are true stories by the way.

Compassion and empathy are 10/10 on the manly scale. You good.

Spiders and snakes are great animals cuz they're natural pest controls.

[NinjaMonkey]

33 minutes ago, Johann said:

Compassion and empathy are 10/10 on the manly scale.

Since when?

[Johann]

2 hours ago, NinjaMonkey said:

Since when?

What kind of question is that? Since always, boy.

[Tediz64]

@Hawkwing Well not thinking strictly in the sense of "oh you're manly" or "awww you're pu$$y" but more like as a person, that takes serious courage (b@lls but girls don't have those so we'll use the word courage) to mess with those critters and handle it the way you did. 

I dunno about the compassion applying for situations like that but maintaining your composure, moving with a purpose (like i'd imagine you didn't waste time, you saw it, you knew what you had to do, you grabbed it, took it out and kicked it out. or in the snake example, you used your wits and knocked it out of the tree and backed away and went on about your business), and executing said action strike me as qualities befitting of a person who is disciplined/trained and strong.

When i using those qualities to describe a person (disciplined and strong) i'm typically talking about guys who are at the pinnacle of being a man among men. Just my opinion. Like my drill sergeant was disciplined and strong. He turned boys into men. My step-dad who is a foremen and does construction strikes me as disciplined and strong; he is also IMO pretty damn manly. I had a teacher who knew akido and was a black belt, but he showed alot of restraint and will (which are synonymous to discipline and inner strength) and i considered him to be manly (and a gentlemen). So ergo; if you are those then you are beyond being a boy. You have reached manhood level. 

Edited June 6, 2018 by Tediz64
Making some words bold so the key take away stands out more.

[Excellen Browning]

On ‎3‎-‎6‎-‎2018 at 3:49 AM, Shoblongoo said:

^^^i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that statement. I just think most Westernerners have very unrealistic expectations of what that relationship would look like from the caricature of Japanese culture in anime and manga and pornhub that reaches the west.

haha, I don't want to deal with that kind of screaming and wailing while I'm having sex. That shit is extremely disturbing.

[Excellen Browning]

haha, wow, this is a disturbing work environment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iILs_WSY86w

[Tediz64]

ROFL that is hilarious. Yeah it is disturbing. I don't know if it is a culture thing but alot of asians in pornos make way too much noise. I get some noise is common but like asian porn is pretty bad. (not all, of course there are exceptions) compared to looking up western, russian, black, hispanic, or whatever else porn, sometimes its almost like as if the person is mute. They don't make a peep. Then there are some who are kinda in the middle. I thought that job would be shadier looking than that. It looks pretty legit in terms of it being a studio and them doing the job.

That video was seriously hilarious. Her face had this looks of like "~sigh~ another day at work. let's get this over with" and "aren't i almost done yet? *keeps going*". 

 

[Excellen Browning]

Apparently voice actors for pornos are pretty popular in Japan!

[Shoblongoo]

16 hours ago, Tediz64 said:

(I don't drink so not possible)

(I don't smoke either)

...well that just makes the rest of the list even more impressive...
 

15 hours ago, Hawkwing said:

So...uh...

Some months ago I took a quiz here, and it was one of the stupider things I've done on the internet (I should have know that there's a difference between thinking/saying "sure, why not?" and "Screw it! I want to do this!"), and after finishing my Serenes Forest Interview, I realized I had a question that I never raised that I'd like to get answered...

Is it more or less manly to, instead of killing it, spare a spider by letting it crawl on your hand, walking through a room full of people, and putting it outside, without flinching, "ew-ing", or any other kind of reaction? Similar question with knocking a snake out of a tree to save a nest full of birds, but sparing said snake afterwords.

Both of these are true stories by the way.

You will never see me less manly then when there is a spider in my house. 

 

7 hours ago, Tediz64 said:

I get some noise is common but like asian porn is pretty bad. (not all, of course there are exceptions) compared to looking up western, russian, black, hispanic, or whatever else porn, sometimes its almost like as if the person is mute. They don't make a peep. Then there are some who are kinda in the middle. I thought that job would be shadier looking than that.

I find it off-putting if its fake and overacted. But if the girl's a "screamer" and she's screaming 'cause she's really getting into it, there's no such thing as too much noise. IMO.

Not a peep is a major turn off for me. MAJOR turn off. I gotta hear that I'm getting some kinda reaction to get into it--at least a moan or something. 

Only time not a peep is sexy is if you're trying to stealth-run it with thin walls and people nearby. Who you're trying to disturb.  And you can see that the girl is really, really, REALLY struggling to not make noise. 

[Tediz64]

@Shoblongoo How is it impressive? How am i going to do things under the influence and it not being a problem if i can't remember? (i'm under the impression people who do stuff under the influence don't remember cause every time i interact with someone after, they claim ignorance if they offended someone, fought someone, or did something stupid)

 

I agree with you on the sound stuff you mentioned. There is too noisy and quiet. Both of them are off putting. 

[Shoblongoo]

5 minutes ago, Tediz64 said:

@Shoblongoo How is it impressive? How am i going to do things under the influence and it not being a problem if i can't remember?

ummmmmmmmm--you don't just go straight from stone sober to black-out I-have-no-idea whats going on. Especially if you're an experienced user, and you know your tolerance limits.

There's a substantial sweet spot in-between [sober] and [blackout] where you're under the influence, and subject to the altered mind-state and sensory perception of the intoxicant. (most notably for the purposes of sex stuff--your sense of touch--which is going to have all kinds of crazy hypersensation going on. That's the appeal of having sex while high). But still oriented, alert, and in control of your actions.  
 

21 minutes ago, Tediz64 said:

(every time i interact with someone after, they claim ignorance if they offended someone, fought someone, or did something stupid)

Ehhhhhh. I try to avoid belligerent drunks.

Never have I ever gotten drunk and been like  Imma fight a motherfucker. Bitch-motherfuckers is getting fucked up tonight!!!! 

And anyone who behaved like that--drunk or sober--would every quickly find themselves disinvited from the circle of people I interact with,  

[Tediz64]

@Shoblongoo Ah ok. I have to take your word for it since i have no idea what its like. My mom told me one time when i was at the dentist that when they put me on the laughing gas i wasn't my normal self. I don't even remember what i was doing but she told me i made a fool of myself somehow. Also i only have like 2 friends so as far as me "hanging out" with others, i know they don't get like that since they don't drink either. we just have game nights, anime nights, and occasionally we go to the gym (and one friend is busy whistling at girls)

[Hawkwing]

16 hours ago, Tediz64 said:

@Hawkwing Well not thinking strictly in the sense of "oh you're manly" or "awww you're pu$$y" but more like as a person, that takes serious courage (b@lls but girls don't have those so we'll use the word courage) to mess with those critters and handle it the way you did. 

I dunno about the compassion applying for situations like that but maintaining your composure, moving with a purpose (like i'd imagine you didn't waste time, you saw it, you knew what you had to do, you grabbed it, took it out and kicked it out. or in the snake example, you used your wits and knocked it out of the tree and backed away and went on about your business), and executing said action strike me as qualities befitting of a person who is disciplined/trained and strong.

When i using those qualities to describe a person (disciplined and strong) i'm typically talking about guys who are at the pinnacle of being a man among men. Just my opinion. Like my drill sergeant was disciplined and strong. He turned boys into men. My step-dad who is a foremen and does construction strikes me as disciplined and strong; he is also IMO pretty damn manly. I had a teacher who knew akido and was a black belt, but he showed alot of restraint and will (which are synonymous to discipline and inner strength) and i considered him to be manly (and a gentlemen). So ergo; if you are those then you are beyond being a boy. You have reached manhood level. 

Well, I wasn't exactly wondering if I was a man or not, but thanks anyway (same to you @Johann). The question was more along the lines of "if killing is considered manly, then what is going out of your way to save something considered?" To be fair, I didn't exactly make that clear.

Anyway, for the stories in more detail:

The spider thing was actually in a classroom, where some of my fellow student's were getting panicky over there being a spider nearby, but no one wanted to kill it for some reason, so I walked over there, let it crawl onto my (bare) hand, walked over to the window, patiently waited for it to crawl out, and then when back to my seat, and I never said word throughout the whole process.

Being fair on the snake one, I actually teamed up with a family member for that one, even if was mostly for getting the long branch cutter thing, or whatever it's called. I forget if we just let the snake be after we knocked it out of the tree, or if we somehow grabbed it and put it into the wooded area next to our neighborhood.

7 hours ago, Shoblongoo said:

You will never see me less manly then when there is a spider in my house. 

Being fair, I'm used to seeing spiders in my bathroom occasionally.

I also would have put a gif of the "Hello, mister spider" scene from the online game "Infiltrating the Airship" here to say that that's my reaction to them... except none exist, and I don't feel like making one.

[Johann]

1 hour ago, Hawkwing said:

"if killing is considered manly, then what is going out of your way to save something considered?"

As I see it, killing is a neutral thing, it's not manly or unmanly. The reasons why you would kill something may be considered manly or unmanly, though. Killing something cuz you're afraid of it (when they don't pose a serious threat) or you just enjoy killing randomly is very unmanly. Killing Nazis on the beaches of Normandy is very manly. Happy D-Day everybody!

Sparing the life of a spider or a snake is manly because you understand that its life has value. And not in a "we have to save everything!" sort of way, because we all know that everything eventually dies anyway, circle of life and all that. Rather, other life forms have roles to fulfill in this world, and if we all go around killing things just because they bother us, then we create new and unnecessary problems for ourselves in our environments.

A good rule of thumb is to remember that the opposite of manly isn't feminine (because men and women aren't in opposition), but boyish-- a man is in opposition against his younger, immature self.

[SullyMcGully]

Pretty well agreed with the points above. The value of self-control to manhood cannot be overstated. If you've avoided regret in relationships, you have my respect as a man, regardless of whether that has left you "involuntarily celibate". If you don't cause unnecessary harm to living creatures, then you have my respect as a man because to be manly is not to be cold or cruel, but compassionate and just. My hands are stained with the blood of thousands of living creatures, mostly chickens processed on our farm. I would consider being willing to take life when it is responsible to do so an element of manhood.

A little more controversial, but the traditional gentleman has also always prioritized the lives of others, particularly those who can't protect themselves as easily (i.e. women and children first and so on), over their own. That's something I seek to emulate in my own life.