YotsuMaboroshi Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: I still think they might be bitter at having been forced to put her in. She's hardly in any history map conversations either. Even the bonus ones (she's in one unless she shows up in the Awakening pack). Granted, Lyn at least got one I think, but maybe they like her more. Lianna got none and Rowan got one through the entire DLC, and they're the OCs for the game. This isn't some scheme against Lucina. Some characters simply got more focus for the DLC than others. Maybe it is dev favoritism, but I doubt it's malicious like you seem to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Wait, it's not called Armored Axe anymore? That's lame. Why go from an interesting name to something completely boring and generic? Now I have even less interest in this pack... Consistency, I guess. All of the names in Japanese are a 3 part name: Character's Name + Some Descriptor + Type of Weapon. Localization turned them into character name + weapon, but I'm not sure why. I suppose judging by the datamine, the original intent was to use the descriptor instead but they changed their minds for some reason. Maybe they didn't want you to think that "Cruel Bow" would do something different from "Lucky Bow" or that "Healing Axe" would, like, heal you? e: To be clear they got truncated probably for character limits, but it seems like it'd be better to chunk off the character name isntead. Edited March 29, 2018 by r_n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YotsuMaboroshi said: Lianna got none and Rowan got one through the entire DLC, and they're the OCs for the game. This isn't some scheme against Lucina. Some characters simply got more focus for the DLC than others. Maybe it is dev favoritism, but I doubt it's malicious like you seem to think. Good grief, she didn't get one with her own cousin. It may not be malicious, but it's absurd to snub her when so many people like her. Also, not liking other characters doesn't mean they like her. Edited March 29, 2018 by Arthur97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmedx3 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: I still think they might be bitter at having been forced to put her in. She's hardly in any history map conversations either. Even the bonus ones (she's in one unless she shows up in the Awakening pack). Granted, Lyn at least got one I think, but maybe they like her more. Yeah I've noticed that she doesn't have map conversations either while Niles gets plenty -.-. At this rate I'm surprised they gave her the bride costume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, r_n said: Consistency, I guess. All of the names in Japanese are a 3 part name: Character's Name + Some Descriptor + Type of Weapon. Localization turned them into character name + weapon, but I'm not sure why. I suppose judging by the datamine, the original intent was to use the descriptor instead but they changed their minds for some reason. Maybe they didn't want you to think that "Cruel Bow" would do something different from "Lucky Bow" or that "Healing Axe" would, like, heal you? e: To be clear they got truncated probably for character limits, but it seems like it'd be better to chunk off the character name isntead. Yeah, if they had to just shorten the names because of character limitations, I don't have any idea why they wouldn't have just gone with Armored Axe, Healing Axe, and Lovely Lance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, charmedx3 said: Yeah I've noticed that she doesn't have map conversations either while Niles gets plenty -.-. At this rate I'm surprised they gave her the bride costume. Plus, an Oboro support should have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Yeah, if they had to just shorten the names because of character limitations, I don't have any idea why they wouldn't have just gone with Armored Axe, Healing Axe, and Lovely Lance. yeah it's a weird decision. Like, again, the only thing I can think of is they didn't want you to think these weapons has extra, secondary effects? Like yu'd expect the armored axe to maybe dull damage? It's weird,if they ever do a sequel they should change that up. Add some spice! Likewise it's weird they changed cordelia's weapon from the Gungnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMinairo Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: Good grief, she didn't get one with her own cousin. It may not be malicious, but it's absurd to snub her when so many people like her. Maybe she had more supports but were scrapped, like Camilla/Cordelia but earlier in development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmedx3 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: Plus, an Oboro support should have happened. Yeah a lot of missed opportunities, at least she gets some special dialogue with both Owain and Oboro but a support conversation would have made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, charmedx3 said: Yeah a lot of missed opportunities, at least she gets some special dialogue with both Owain and Oboro but a support conversation would have made sense. While we're talking about missed opportunities, they should have had a Chrom and Tharja support. I really don't like her, but so long as she isn't in stalker mode, it might have been interesting. Also, Ceada with any of the Ylissean royals. They're her descendants too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, r_n said: yeah it's a weird decision. Like, again, the only thing I can think of is they didn't want you to think these weapons has extra, secondary effects? Like yu'd expect the armored axe to maybe dull damage? It's weird,if they ever do a sequel they should change that up. Add some spice! Yeah, it's like they didn't care at all and decided to ignore what fans of these characters might've thought of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doof Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I myself am so giddy with myself at being able to play with Owain, Chrom and Robin shirtless I don't care about anything else now this game is perfect for me <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Chrom and Owain with Chrom as the lead's dual warrior dialogue is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmedx3 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: While we're talking about missed opportunities, they should have had a Chrom and Tharja support. I really don't like her, but so long as she isn't in stalker mode, it might have been interesting. Also, Ceada with any of the Ylissean royals. They're her descendants too. Ohh yeah that's another disappointment, Chrom & Tharja support was another of my wishlist, and yeah Caeda should have had a support with Owain to mirror the Lucina & Marth one or with Lissa to begin with. I'm still mad that Owain didn't get one with Lucina ):<. Also Tharja & Leo would've been something. One good thing is that at least the DLC SD characters finally got something with Awakening characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, charmedx3 said: Ohh yeah that's another disappointment, Chrom & Tharja support was another of my wishlist, and yeah Caeda should have had a support with Owain to mirror the Lucina & Marth one or with Lissa to begin with. I'm still mad that Owain didn't get one with Lucina ):<. Also Tharja & Leo would've been something. One good thing is that at least the DLC SD characters finally got something with Awakening characters. I know Owain has one with Navarre. Not sure about the others. If only there was a feedback option. Edited March 29, 2018 by Arthur97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doof Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Im glad that even though Owain is a clone, he has a lot of different animations. His Awakening finisher is so badass too! Definitely using him over Ryoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmedx3 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: I know Owain has one with Navarre. Not sure about the others. If only there was a feedback option. I wish that too. The others are Minerva & Olivia and Linde & Tharja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, charmedx3 said: I wish that too. The others are Minerva & Olivia and Linde & Tharja Yeah, I remembered Linde later. Not being able to say anything to them doesn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 That is definitely Karen Strassman on Olivia, no doubt in my mind. I bumrushed to Tharja on her map hoping I could hear her name, and she never says it. Looks like I need to get supports...or go to GameFAQs, which I did, and apparently the J in her name is pronounced the same as in Rhajat, so a soft J or "zh" sound. Damn, I've gotten so used to saying "Thar-ya." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 After unlocking it myself, I have to say Tharja x Corrin was a surprisingly good conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jave said: After unlocking it myself, I have to say Tharja x Corrin was a surprisingly good conversation. So, it wasn't "You're familiar?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Arthur97 said: So, it wasn't "You're familiar?" No, it was more like "Hey, you don't have to follow me around, let's hang out together." It was pretty cute, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jave said: No, it was more like "Hey, you don't have to follow me around, let's hang out together." It was pretty cute, actually. Why was she stalking Corrin in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Druid Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Olivia's antics are pretty cute, ngl. Although the voice gets annoying. It's a shame she doesn't have a support with Chrom, but her Xander support should be interesting. 5 hours ago, r_n said: Oh wow, Olivia is crazy weak. At level 50 promoted her attack is 38. 38!. She might be the weakest character in the game If you're curious, the rest of her attacks at level 50 promotion: 404 HP 36 Def 33 Res 75 Skill 83 Speed 86 Luck So her shtick is taking advantage of the best stats in the game at the loss of base line strength. I She has a pretty quick moveset, which I think makes up for her lack of strength. Makes sense too, since she's just a dancer, and the majority of dancers in this series aren't good fighters anyways. The only exceptions being Phina and Lene (although they require investment. Olivia too for that matter, but she needs a lot more than the aforementioned 2). Edited March 29, 2018 by Dandy Druid spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmurr Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I'm with you @Arthur97, I can't believe Lucina didn't get any supports from this DLC. Blows my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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