DLC Pack 3 Discussion Topic

[Folt]

2 hours ago, Anomalocaris said:

The gimmick of Emmeryn's boss mission is a bog-standard Velezark surprise, though partway through the fight four shadow Wyvern Lords spawn around Velezark and advance on the base. As long as you have a wingslayer or dracoslayer they should be a non-issue though.

For Caravan Dancer, a bunch of captains with effective weaponry spawn and begin advancing on your base and commander (who are a Wyvern Lord and Great Knight, so they've got a lot of weaknesses).

Scion of Legend involves a bunch of Sniper reinforcements being sumoned and buffing the boss to ridiculous extremes AND debuffing your allied commander. Killing the reinforcements undoes the buffs and buffs the allied commander (the danger here is the boss and reinforcements dogpiling the allied commander because the mission is a Neutralized Effectiveness mission, so the Snipers are not gonna kill the Allied Commander in one hit).

[Liliesgrace]

I know that Chrom’s Opus is on Caravan Dancer and that it is an Escort Villager mission (*boo hiss*) but does anyone happen to know if it falls under the specific requirements of need to complete all stages/S rank all stages?

[Arthur97]

Just now, Liliesgrace said:

I know that Chrom’s Opus is on Caravan Dancer and that it is an Escort Villager mission (*boo hiss*) but does anyone happen to know if it falls under the specific requirements of need to complete all stages/S rank all stages?

I think it was either a beat the boss or beat the boss with an S rank. Can't tell you which since I beat it with an S rank the first time.

[Anomalocaris]

So what are the thoughts on the Amped attribute? Is it any good, or not worth the weapon slot?

[Liliesgrace]

8 minutes ago, Arthur97 said:

I think it was either a beat the boss or beat the boss with an S rank. Can't tell you which since I beat it with an S rank the first time.

No problem. I stress, over level, look up spoilers, and over plan every single stage no matter how simple so as to be able to S rank things on the first try. And if I don’t, I simply repeat until I do so thank you for the clarification! I’m totally skipping that Spears Escort Villagers on Caravan Dancer then because I’m pretty sure Chrom’s will give me enough of a headache as it is. I barely survived the level 86 one on Scion’s map with my sanity intact. 

Those missions need to be renamed to ‘keep squishy units alive with only two of your units through every combined type of submission possible’. But if course, there’s the issue of character limits for the title.

[Arthur97]

3 minutes ago, Liliesgrace said:

No problem. I stress, over level, look up spoilers, and over plan every single stage no matter how simple so as to be able to S rank things on the first try. And if I don’t, I simply repeat until I do so thank you for the clarification! I’m totally skipping that Spears Escort Villagers on Caravan Dancer then because I’m pretty sure Chrom’s will give me enough of a headache as it is. I barely survived the level 86 one on Scion’s map with my sanity intact. 

Those missions need to be renamed to ‘keep squishy units alive with only two of your units through every combined type of submission possible’. But if course, there’s the issue of character limits for the title.

The spears only one I took Cordelia and Ceada who both have staves. That one isn't too terrible since they are relatively close to each other. Plus I don't think it was too high of a level.

I've had issues with villager recruitment maps before. The problem wasn't really beating them, it was getting enough KOs.

[HK Motendra]

2 hours ago, Anomalocaris said:

So what are the thoughts on the Amped attribute? Is it any good, or not worth the weapon slot?

Amped will literally bump every stat (except for the mentioned Mov) by 20%. That's basically a limit breaker, but on a MUCH higher scale, depending on who it's on and their level.

Currently, I have it on both Marth and Chrom

without Amped:

Spoiler

Marth
Lv: 122
HP: 857
Str: 107
Mag:10
Def: 98
Res: 93
Skl:126
Spd: 121
Lck: 131

Chrom
Lv: 120
HP: 845
Str: 114
Mag: 24
Def: 113
Res: 84
Skl: 124
Spd: 124
Lck: 97 

with Amped:

Spoiler

Marth
Hp:999
Str: 128
Mag: 12
Def:118
Res: 112
Skl: 151
Spd: 145
Lck: 157

Chrom:
Hp: 999
Str: 137
Mag: 29
Def: 136
Res: 101
Skl: 149
Spd: 149
Lck: 116

Note that stat booster skills do not apply and are added afterwards

Edited March 31, 2018 by Motendra

[Anomalocaris]

3 minutes ago, Motendra said:

Amped will literally bump every stat (except for the mentioned Mov) by 20%. That's basically a limit breaker, but on a MUCH higher scale, depending on who it's on.

Currently, I have it on both Marth and Chrom

without Amped:

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Marth
Lv: 122
HP: 857
Str: 107
Mag:10
Def: 98
Res: 93
Skl:126
Spd: 121
Lck: 131

Chrom
Lv: 120
HP: 845
Str: 114
Mag: 24
Def: 113
Res: 84
Skl: 124
Spd: 124
Lck: 97 

with Amped:

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Marth
Hp:999
Str: 128
Mag: 12
Def:118
Res: 112
Skl: 151
Spd: 145
Lck: 157

Chrom:
Hp: 999
Str: 137
Mag: 29
Def: 136
Res: 101
Skl: 149
Spd: 149
Lck: 116

Note that stat booster skills do not apply and are added afterwards

So... put it on everyone, yeah?

[Arthur97]

I beat the Anna map.

Spoiler

Not that hard, but I couldn't take about half of the Awakening crew. I also don't like how that getting Robin and Tharja to meet was apparently an objective. At least I think I beat it before that happened.

59 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said:

So... put it on everyone, yeah?

Pretty much.

[Anomalocaris]

1 minute ago, Arthur97 said:

I beat the Anna map.

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Not that hard, but I couldn't take about half of the Awakening crew. I also don't like how that getting Robin and Tharja to meet was apparently an objective. At least I think I beat it before that happened.

Pretty much.

Yeah, I'm already noticing the POWAH.

Do we know just how Owain's skill works yet, by the way? Obviously sticking it on Celica and Cordelia, but I'm wondering what its exact effect is and if it's worthwhile on slightly-less-symmetrical ones.

[Smfthegeek]

Its a real shame i love Olivia so much. Tharja and Owains opus’s were extremely easy to get but olivias mission for the opus is hard enough to unlock on its own not including the missions extreme difficulty. I’ll have to set olivias blade asside until my waifus grow in strength. My current team I always run is Lyn/lv. 106 Azura/lv. 101 Caeda/lv. 101 Tharja/lv. 101. Lyn tears everything apary with astra and when paired with my azura and caedas wing spear is so broken and iotes shield makes her untouchable. And tharjas just there being her wodnerful self :)

[Liliesgrace]

9 minutes ago, smfthegeek said:

Its a real shame i love Olivia so much. Tharja and Owains opus’s were extremely easy to get but olivias mission for the opus is hard enough to unlock on its own not including the missions extreme difficulty. I’ll have to set olivias blade asside until my waifus grow in strength. My current team I always run is Lyn/lv. 106 Azura/lv. 101 Caeda/lv. 101 Tharja/lv. 101. Lyn tears everything apary with astra and when paired with my azura and caedas wing spear is so broken and iotes shield makes her untouchable. And tharjas just there being her wodnerful self :)

What type of mission is it? -gulps-

[Arthur97]

4 minutes ago, Liliesgrace said:

What type of mission is it? -gulps-

Ally Rescue, but it's set to Lv. 128. I didn't find it that hard personally.

[Smfthegeek]

45 minutes ago, Arthur97 said:

Ally Rescue, but it's set to Lv. 128. I didn't find it that hard personally.

Ya but getting to that mission appears to be a bit overwhelming but... its the weekend so I’ll go for it >:)

[r_n]

1 hour ago, Anomalocaris said:

Yeah, I'm already noticing the POWAH.

Do we know just how Owain's skill works yet, by the way? Obviously sticking it on Celica and Cordelia, but I'm wondering what its exact effect is and if it's worthwhile on slightly-less-symmetrical ones.

It's +25% at max. I'm not sure how it scales outside of Owain.

[Azz]

So is the level reset worth it? I'm considering it personally since I'm in desperate need of mats (Especially Corrin, Chrom and stuff) but I'm not sure if I want to grind them all back to the level I have them (Level 101-105).

Edited March 31, 2018 by Azz

[Arthur97]

Wow, apparently Minerva's magic stat is so low (2 at level 114), that amped doesn't affect it.

[r_n]

19 minutes ago, Azz said:

So is the level reset worth it? I'm considering it personally since I'm in desperate need of mats (Especially Corrin, Chrom and stuff) but I'm not sure if I want to grind them all back to the level I have them (Level 101-105).

It is pretty good. At level 105 I believe it's 10 golds and 21 silvers. Every 5 levels is +1 silver, every 10 levels is +1 gold.

But if you're going to abuse this, you only need to go to level 50 after the inital reset (since I'm guessing most of us have people in their 100s). It's the best money:material ratio and, at the very least, it's cheaper to do 50 twice than 100 once. You get exactly the same amount of materials but save like almost 2 million gold.

I reset Xander, bought his 720 stuff and I'll probably put him on the level 50 grind for a while. need them materials!

 

Edited April 1, 2018 by r_n

[Liliesgrace]

Additionally has anyone experienced an increased spike in how much experience it takes to level from 130-150? I just got my first character to 130 using the repeat on level 104 Pincer Escape in Knorda Market and wondered if that was the case. 

At least all my characters save the three newest DLC are 100+ but boy howdy does this last stretch feel long.

[DragonFlames]

The battle with the Shiida icon on Owain's map is a royal pain in the ass to S-rank. Go too fast and the enemies will just stop spawning, putting a dead stop to your kill counter, which is hard enough to rack up as it is, because the enemy forts have a grand total of one enemy in them for the most part. Go too slow and the Villagers just die. If your F***ING PEGASUS KNIGHT COMMANDED base isn't swarmed by an army of Archers first. In fact, you can lose the battle in the first five seconds, because if you move south first, SURPRISE SNIPER!!! If you stay in your base at the beginning, it takes ages for the Sniper to come to the base for whatever reason.

And to top it all off, there are two Anna's Gifts to get in that battle. F*** that noise.

Sorry if I sound a bit riled up, but that battle really does rub me the wrong way. Anyone have any tips on what I can do?

Edited April 1, 2018 by DragonFlames

[Arthur97]

1 hour ago, DragonFlames said:

The battle with the Shiida icon on Owain's map is a royal pain in the ass to S-rank. Go too fast and the enemies will just stop spawning, putting a dead stop to your kill counter, which is hard enough to rack up as it is, because the enemy forts have a grand total of one enemy in them for the most part. Go too slow and the Villagers just die. If your F***ING PEGASUS KNIGHT COMMANDED base isn't swarmed by an army of Archers first. In fact, you can lose the battle in the first five seconds, because if you move south first, SURPRISE SNIPER!!! If you stay in your base at the beginning, it takes ages for the Sniper to come to the base for whatever reason.

And to top it all off, there are two Anna's Gifts to get in that battle. F*** that noise.

Sorry if I sound a bit riled up, but that battle really does rub me the wrong way. Anyone have any tips on what I can do?

It's probably more effective to not save several of the villagers which makes those maps kind of counter-intuitive. Why save the villagers at all?

[Liliesgrace]

1 hour ago, DragonFlames said:

The battle with the Shiida icon on Owain's map is a royal pain in the ass to S-rank. Go too fast and the enemies will just stop spawning, putting a dead stop to your kill counter, which is hard enough to rack up as it is, because the enemy forts have a grand total of one enemy in them for the most part. Go too slow and the Villagers just die. If your F***ING PEGASUS KNIGHT COMMANDED base isn't swarmed by an army of Archers first. In fact, you can lose the battle in the first five seconds, because if you move south first, SURPRISE SNIPER!!! If you stay in your base at the beginning, it takes ages for the Sniper to come to the base for whatever reason.

And to top it all off, there are two Anna's Gifts to get in that battle. F*** that noise.

Sorry if I sound a bit riled up, but that battle really does rub me the wrong way. Anyone have any tips on what I can do?

I certainly appreciate the heads up. I’ve gotten a bit distracted grinding levels and the 90 Shadow Rush stage on that same map for all the characters mats. That’s one of the stages I still have left to do on that priority map because Robin’s Opus is there.

[Interdimensional Observer]

On 3/28/2018 at 9:12 PM, Lightchao42 said:

Owain: Ryoma, Takumi, Camilla, Leo, Chrom,  Lissa, Niles, Navarre, Olivia

Tharja: Corrin, Hinoka, Camilla, Robin, Azura, Linde, Olivia

Olivia: Sakura, Xander, Azura, Minerva, Owain, Tharja

Owain: No Lucina is explicable they have one in their base game, but then why does he have a Lissa? Chrom is good, but why Camilla?

Tharja: Camilla, as expected (does it involve a ten minute earthquake and misfired itchy skin curse like I feared it would?), Robin was expected as well. Why Hinoka though? Corrin I get- but I don't by the reincarnation BS. And why Azura? Chrom-Tharja would have been good too.

Olivia: No Navarre? She is visually based on Phina, who although from Mystery should still have been referenced via a Navarre. And why the Xander? Because like Chrom? But then why not just use Chrom?

 

On 3/28/2018 at 11:34 PM, Doof said:

I myself am so giddy with myself at being able to play with Owain, Chrom and Robin shirtless

I don't care about anything else now this game is perfect for me <3

Ahem to that! See my gallery of armor breaks posts for a breakdown of my thoughts. Though I will say that I prefer to keep the experience special and not take too many peeks.

 

On 3/29/2018 at 9:02 AM, Torii said:

I really love how they did a different C6 for Tharja, it made such difference between her and Robin. It would have been really cool to give each clone character just one unique combo instead of justing have different specials. If they had more time for the game maybe they would have done it for each of the archers, Elise and Leo, the pegasus knights, etc. Even just having one combo would make each character feel more unique, because just having different Awakening and Warriors attacks doesn't make them feel as special, but maybe that's just my own personal opinion

I was thinking this before the game was even released. Build movesets around classes, and let each clone character have different skills, stat spreads, personal weapons and some variant charge attacks. That it happened at all is good, but that it took until the very last added character to do it is sad. 

[Azz]

16 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Owain: No Lucina is explicable they have one in their base game, but then why does he have a Lissa? Chrom is good, but why Camilla?

Olivia: No Navarre? She is visually based on Phina, who although from Mystery should still have been referenced via a Navarre. And why the Xander? Because like Chrom? But then why not just use Chrom?

For Owain/Lissa it makes sense since Lucina and Chrom got a support.

As for Olivia/XAnder, Laslow a.k.a Inigo is her son and his retainer so I guess it kinda makes sense.

Anyways, is it just me or does Olivia sound off. It's definitely Karen Strassmen, but she doesn't sound like Olivia from FEA, she sounds more like Anna.

[Ottservia]

45 minutes ago, Azz said:

Anyways, is it just me or does Olivia sound off. It's definitely Karen Strassmen, but she doesn't sound like Olivia from FEA, she sounds more like Anna.

Yeah I'm hearing a noticeable difference as well. Idk what it is but she just sounds a little too high pitched maybe. I can't really tell.

 

Also what's annoying me is that inigo is referenced so much in these support conversations but isn't in the game. Come on koei stop teasing me like this!!! He's my 2nd fav awakening character and my fav fates character. 

Edited April 1, 2018 by Otts486