Icelerate Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'm down to one restore staff with one use on chapter 28x and will most likely have to use a hammerne to repair it. The next chapter is the infamous CoD. Unfortunately, you can't buy anymore restore staves until chapter 31x. What type of design is this? I was planning to buy a bunch of restore staves in chapter 24 but I thought I ended up doing so due to failing on an attempt where I did just that. Because of this, I ended up not buying a single restore staff through out the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluJay5678 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Which game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, BluJay5678 said: Which game? Hector Hard mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluJay5678 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, Icelerate said: Hector Hard mode. If you are really really careful, then it may be possible to win without using restore staves. I've done it before but I'm not sure how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Just now, BluJay5678 said: If you are really really careful, then it may be possible to win without using restore staves. I've done it before but I'm not sure how. Well I'll just save my last restore staff use until this chapter is over. One restore staff in the next couple of chapters will be bothersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alatartheblue42 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 People actually use Restore Staves? Yes, the game is absolutely beatable without Restore staves. You should be fine so long as you're careful. Praying to RNJesus sometimes helps. Bait enemies with actually dangerous staves (ie Berserk) with your local sage or bishop or someone equally high in Resistance, and reserve your Restore for situations like "Oh no, Hector just got Berserked and is going to murder my entire team" or "Oh no, Eliwood got Berserked and is going to get himself killed more than usual". If you're feeling too anxious or unlucky, try to make the Status staff users waste their shots on your high Res unit at the cost of potentially 3 turns of staying still. Or, you can always just use your Hammerne on your Restore if you want. I at least have almost never had a game where I actually felt the need to use a Hammerne, the sole exception being back when I overplayed SS Hard mode in an effort to max out everyone and wanted to use it to repair Myrrh's Dragonstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9999 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 5 hours ago, alatartheblue42 said: People actually use Restore Staves? Yes, the game is absolutely beatable without Restore staves. You should be fine so long as you're careful. Praying to RNJesus sometimes helps. Bait enemies with actually dangerous staves (ie Berserk) with your local sage or bishop or someone equally high in Resistance, and reserve your Restore for situations like "Oh no, Hector just got Berserked and is going to murder my entire team" or "Oh no, Eliwood got Berserked and is going to get himself killed more than usual". If you're feeling too anxious or unlucky, try to make the Status staff users waste their shots on your high Res unit at the cost of potentially 3 turns of staying still. Or, you can always just use your Hammerne on your Restore if you want. I at least have almost never had a game where I actually felt the need to use a Hammerne, the sole exception being back when I overplayed SS Hard mode in an effort to max out everyone and wanted to use it to repair Myrrh's Dragonstone. That cannot happen unless they are the only units in range. The AI always targets the unit lowest in the deployment list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roger The Paladin Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 hours ago, L9999 said: That cannot happen unless they are the only units in range. The AI always targets the unit lowest in the deployment list. That sounds extremely exploitable. Does it apply to any of the other games in the series or just FE 7? Just make sure your high res units are low on the deployment list, and then make sure they're in range. Staves (probably) wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alatartheblue42 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 22 hours ago, L9999 said: That cannot happen unless they are the only units in range. The AI always targets the unit lowest in the deployment list. Oh really? That's a fun fact I never realized. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I've literally argued with someone who actually thinks that staves above Heal are unnecessary in another community. I would say "yes" based on that, but like everyone else basically said, you'd have to be pretty lucky to get by without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9999 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 4:07 AM, Mad-manakete said: That sounds extremely exploitable. Does it apply to any of the other games in the series or just FE 7? Just make sure your high res units are low on the deployment list, and then make sure they're in range. Staves (probably) wasted. It works in all 3 GBA games, the devs copypasted the code for each and didn't fix any AI exploits except "boss attack before enemy attack." Speaking of res, you don't need a high res unit per say, it can be someone useless (like Fae in FE6) or the least important unit of your strategy. The idea is to make them bait and with some knowledge on the RNG make your units dodge them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) I'd like to know how you tested that. Which chapter and which characters did you use to figure out that deployment order determined attack priority? Edited May 20, 2018 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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