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If there were to be a manga/anime adaptation of Echoes, who do you think would canonically die?

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As the title says, who would die? I have a few ideas, which are the following:

Kliff: Dies during the battle at the Southern Outpost, to introduce to the audience the idea that anyone can die

Faye: Dies in the aftermath of the defeat of Desaix, having been wounded in the battle and dying after the fact to make the battle seem less victorious.

Tobin: Dies during the final battle against Duma, as more fuel for Alm to attack Duma with more power and anger.

What do you think? Any bad ideas on mine or any you would add/change?

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Nooo not Tobin. Now who's going to bicker with Gray like they're an old married couple? :(

Since Sonya has more plot relevance, being the only of Jedah's daughters who wasn't turned into a witch, Deen would definitely be the one who dies to weaken Greith's forces. I think he's canonically supposed to do that anyway. Poor dude really got the short end of the stick.

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28 minutes ago, Dragoncat said:

Nooo not Tobin. Now who's going to bicker with Gray like they're an old married couple? :(

Since Sonya has more plot relevance, being the only of Jedah's daughters who wasn't turned into a witch, Deen would definitely be the one who dies to weaken Greith's forces. I think he's canonically supposed to do that anyway. Poor dude really got the short end of the stick.

poor Deen, probably won't ever even get in heroes, I hear even his portrait was reused in gaiden for a random boss.

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2 hours ago, Fire Emblem Fan said:

Uh...no one? Except maybe Deen? That'd be about it...

Well I feel like if they didn't kill anyone off it would kind of feel like they took out a huge chunk of what makes Fire Emblem...Fire Emblem.

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Didn’t Kliff already die in the Gaiden manga adaptation? He might do it again.

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3 hours ago, Vaximillian said:

Didn’t Kliff already die in the Gaiden manga adaptation? He might do it again.

According to the wiki, yes, he died in the Gaiden manga. His death caused Alm and his army to brutally murder Desaix.

 

I think Deen would die in an SoV adaptation due to Sonya having more plot relevance, and Kliff may also die due to being killed in the Gaiden manga as well. Other than that, I don't think anyone else would die.

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Everyone but Alm dies along the way.

Their deaths weight heavily on Alm's mind, and he grows increasingly emotionally fatigued by it all, regretful of his actions, but knowing he must continue onwards to correct his mistakes, even though they grow. Not even Celica is above the black spectre.

Berkut lives longer than Jedah, who is stabbed to death by Berkut in a fit of rage at Duma Temple after the Rinea sacrifice, but Jedah smiles happily as he passes on, knowing the ultimate warrior of the degenerate god is born. So that Alm may acquire the Falchion and save Celica, Mycen buys time for him from the empowered Berkut, losing his own life in the process.

Conrad spends the entire time inside Duma Temple fighting soulless Celica, and when Alm shows up he lets himself die to get her to come to something of her senses.

Mila is only able to restore Celica's soul, and her body is badly injured from all the fighting, so she is quite weak. Alm brings her to the double doors to Duma's chamber in his arms, and together they open them just enough to pass through. Afterwards, Celica collapses dying of her injuries, her brand hand resting in Alm's. Alm walks into Duma's chamber and Duma watches a one-on-one duel between Alm and Berkut, with Celica's soul powering Alm and that plus the Falchion gives Alm the power to overcome the transformed Berkut. Afterwards, Alm slices through Duma in a single blow. Thanking Alm for his act with his final words, everyone is by the last act of his powers revived. The end.

What happened to Marle and Heste? Genny, who along with Valbar and Saber were the only survivors of Celica's group besides Conrad to get into Duma Temple, was "played with" by Jedah, Berkut, their minions and the sisters in Duma's chamber before Alm got into the Temple. Genny, to honor her promise to Sonya, commits an act of holy suicide by blowing herself and Sonya's sisters up with her, liberating their souls. Valbar tanks a horde of arrows, swords, lances, Mogall strikes, and even magic blows, he slightly injures Berkut and then goes to stab Jedah for revenge for Kamui and particularly Leon, but is killed. Berkut gripes that such a stupid hulk could bother him and that he needs more POWAH! Saber after Valbar's initial round of tanking, goes on a rampage, slicing through many of the human enemies and all the Mogalls, he gets as far as Duma himself, whom he leaps and strikes at, but then has his lungs pierced by Duma's tentacles in midair.

Sonya herself is among the casualties at the top of Duma Tower after Celica gives over her soul. Jedah at first decides to purge everyone, only to change his tune and capture the rest for execution later after some fighting. Sonya attempts to exact revenge on Jedah once more, suffering a terrible wound as a result. Genny tries to heal Sonya, but tells her to concern herself with others first, they need it more. Sonya then relays her last words to Genny and tells her to leave her alone, she still has one trick left up her sleeve. Left completely undefended and alone, Sonya soon becomes the target of countless enemies, and then she casts Excalibur on herself, creating a ginormous wind explosion that rips her to shreds and takes many of the terrors with her. Just before she does this, she mutters to herself that in suicide Jedah will be denied her soul, she will die freely and on her own terms.

Deen is never recruited, he is fought an enemy and dies with nothing more than passing recollection of his good and bad memories going by in his head before his eyes shut one last time. Jesse gets even less, he never appears outside of Silque's recruitment by Alm, when she recalls memories of the handsome man who rescued her, and then died for her.Leon is another Duma Tower victim, after having attempted to rain arrows upon Jedah in the prior battle in the swamp, Jedah decides he will deal with this little gnat. Jedah shows his full magical might and strikes Leon, injuring him. Jedah then decides Leon is an "interesting fellow" and when he warps away, takes Leon with him. Leon is later shown alone in Duma Tower, subject to various forms of torture, which he dies of and is then reduced to a soulless pawn of Jedah, with a helmet placed over his head and a new name given to conceal his former identity. He is among those who are fought in Duma Temple later.

The resurrection shrines? They don't exist. This said, the Necrodragons of the Dragon Shrine do appear, as the pawns of the mercenary boss en route to Mila Temple, and it here that Kamui dies to them them in an ambush attack.

Pirates also manage to tame the Necrodragon of Seabound Shrine, which is slain through via Seraphim, but only after Boey puts himself in harm's way to attempt to kill the Necrodragon via casting Sagittae, although he fails and only gets out a Thunder. Boey is left permanently wounded by this, but it triggers Celica to learn Seraphim to destroy the Necrodragon. Boey remains on hand as a friend to Celica and casts the occasional spell, but withdraws from the main fray. At Dolth Keep, Celica lacks the vitality to spam enough Seraphim to overcome Dolth's Necrodragon spam, and Nomah, Mae, and Sonya can't do enough spellcasting either. So Boey then tries to cast Sagittae once more, and does so unleashing a massive rain of magical arrows on Dolth Keep, this nearly depletes his life and he falls to his knees, a surviving Necrodragon then rushes in and grabs him in its mouth, playing with his body like a rag doll. This infuriates Mae enough to learn Seraphim and she blows up the Necrodragon, which then releases a healing shower, the final gift of Boey, who through that being tossed around was still alive to feel it all.

Palla dies in Grieth's Citadel. After the battle is won, a few surviving bandits flee into its inner parts in desperation. One runs into the prison and attempts to rape Est, but Palla and Catria get there before it can happen. Palla and Catria stop the attempted rapist, but another bandit sneaks up from behind and cleaves off all of Palla's left arm, and she dies of massive blood loss on the spot. 

Est dies before Catria, overcompensating for her sister's death, she perishes in the first encounter with Mogalls outside of Duma Tower. This was foreshadowed by her rather reckless behavior in the two Mires, where the swamp conditions make the Pegasus duo essential to victory. What does destroy all those Mogalls however is Shining Seraphim- the tandem magic attack of Celica and Mae.

Catria survives for not much longer, when things go south atop Duma Tower, she attempts to escape with Mae on her pegasus by flying off the Tower to the ground safely below. A bolt of lightning from the stormy sky above strikes the pegasus however, Mae is tossed off the pegasus onto the Tower safely, but Catria plunges with her steed killed. Gargoyles try to rend her as she falls, but she stabs them all gone. Nothing can stop her from going splat however.

Mae sees Catria's fate, and with Boey dead and Celica taken away her soul gone, she has nothing left to lose. When she sees a magical barrier blocking their escape by stairs has been erected, she blasts it with everything she has to destroy it so everyone can get out. She is successful, and everyone does flee down the stairs, and Sonya wipes out the enemies at the top with her final attack. However, it is a long trip to the bottom and there is plenty of fighting on the way down, not to mention even more monsters coming up from behind. Rather than let Valbar or someone else protect the backside, Mae does so, and it is in this way that she dies, an arrow from the legions of menaces passing through her heart. But of course, she fires off one last spell to nuke a bunch of them. Of course, nobody escapes Duma Tower, they get to the entrance, where they see Catria's impact spot, and then Jedah captures them all.

Atlas, who goes they way of a jack of all trades sword, lance, bow, axe fighter (never mind the impossibility!) being a greenhorn experimenting with his promising potentials, dies in the storming of Duma Gate. Somebody had to be the vanguard through the defenses, and Atlas chooses to be the one since he has continually shown himself inferior to everyone else. He is badly injured, but manages to sneak through the defenses alone to where the boss is, ready to cast for a second time his Upheaval spell, the first casting of which Atlas saw as it wrecked Celica's forces. Atlas thus comes out of his stealth and swinging a small axe, decapitates the guy as he just finishes the spell. The spell this backfires, leveling Duma Gate and Atlas is killed by falling debris.

Nomah, dies ascending Duma Tower. Earlier, he displays signs of ill-health, then he attempts like Sonya to challenge Jedah at the Swamps of Duma, which does not go over exactly well (note that through the combined might of everyone, Jedah is defeated here after the Mogalls are blasted through, but it does convince them of how strong he is). During the ascent of Duma Tower, old Nomah feels fatigued by the climb and asks if he may rest for a moment, everyone else is willing to rest with him, but he tells them to hurry on and despite their protests, they go along with it. Nomah then mutters to himself how useless he is as an old man, and patiently waits for the monsters to come and devour him, better him than the rest. Strangely, very few terrors come to take his life, which he takes a sign they're focusing on Celica and co.. He then senses at one point a very strong terror awaiting near the top of Duma Tower, and decides he must do something about it, but how to get there? While Celica and co. confront this terror, say a White Dragon or Garuda, a large magic blast destroys it, and then it is noticed that Nomah is suddenly there. He tried as Jedah and all those other Duma Faithful can do, that is warping, thinking it would be the only way for him to catch up with the rest. Unfortunately, it took a lot out of him, as did the spell, and he needs to rest for a moment more. But Celica cannot rest, Alm is in danger and cannot for prophecy's sake die, thus he convinces Celica and co. to go on to the very top without him, while he closes his eyes one last time.

 

...The fates of Alm's crew will be detailed later, but know there will be BLOOD! Except for Zeke, Minerva needs no Whitewings, but for Archanea's sake, Zeke will have to fall into a river- his memories surviving this time.

Edited by Interdimensional Observer

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5 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Everyone but Alm dies along the way.

Their deaths weight heavily on Alm's mind, and he grows increasingly emotionally fatigued by it all, regretful of his actions, but knowing he must continue onwards to correct his mistakes, even though they grow. Not even Celica is above the black spectre.

Berkut lives longer than Jedah, who is stabbed to death by Berkut in a fit of rage at Duma Temple after the Rinea sacrifice, but Jedah smiles happily as he passes on, knowing the ultimate warrior of the degenerate god is born. So that Alm may acquire the Falchion and save Celica, Mycen buys time for him from the empowered Berkut, losing his own life in the process. Conrad spends the entire time inside Duma Temple fighting soulless Celica, and when Alm shows up he lets himself die to get her to come to something of her senses. Mila is only able to restore Celica's soul, and her body is badly injured from all the fighting, so she is quite weak. Alm brings her to the double doors to Duma's chamber in his arms, and together they open them just enough to pass through. Afterwards, Celica collapses dying of her injuries, her brand hand resting in Alm's. Alm walks into Duma's chamber and watches a one-on-one duel between Alm and Berkut, with Celica's soul powering Alm and that plus the Falchion gives Alm the power to overcome the transformed Berkut. Afterwards, Alm slices through Duma in a single blow. Thanking Alm for his act with his final words, everyone is by the last act of his powers revived. The end.

What happened to Marle and Heste? Genny, who along with Valbar and Saber were the only survivors of Celica's group besides Conrad to get into Duma Temple, was "played with" by Jedah, Berkut, their minions and the sisters in Duma's chamber before Alm got into the Temple. Genny, to honor her promise to Sonya, commits an act of holy suicide by blowing herself and Sonya's sisters up with her, liberating their souls. Valbar tanks a horde of arrows, swords, lances, Mogall strikes, and even magic blows, he slightly injures Berkut and then goes to stab Jedah for revenge for Kamui and particularly Leon, but is killed. Berkut gripes that such a stupid hulk could bother him and that he needs more POWAH! Saber after Valbar's initial round of tanking, goes on a rampage, slicing through many of the human enemies and all the Mogalls, he gets as far as Duma himself, whom he leaps and strikes at, but then has his lungs pierced by Duma's tentacles in midair.

Sonya herself is among the casualties at the top of Duma Tower after Celica gives over her soul. Jedah at first decides to purge everyone, only to change his tune and capture the rest for execution later after some fighting. Sonya attempts to exact revenge on Jedah once more, suffering a terrible wound as a result. Genny tries to heal Sonya, but tells her to concern herself with others first, they need it more. Sonya then relays her last words to Genny and tells her to leave her alone, she still has one trick left up her sleeve. Left completely undefended and alone, Sonya soon becomes the target of countless enemies, and then she casts Excalibur on herself, creating a ginormous wind explosion that rips her to shreds and takes many of the terrors with her. Just before she does this, she mutters to herself that in suicide Jedah will be denied her soul, she will die freely and on her own terms.

Deen is never recruited, he is fought an enemy and dies with nothing more than passing recollection of his good and bad memories going by in his head before his eyes shut one last time. Jesse gets even less, he never appears outside of Silque's recruitment by Alm, when she recalls memories of the handsome man who rescued her, and then died for her.Leon is another Duma Tower victim, after having attempted to rain arrows upon Jedah in the prior battle in the swamp, Jedah decides he will deal with this little gnat. Jedah shows his full magical might and strikes Leon, injuring him. Jedah then decides Leon is an "interesting fellow" and when he warps away, takes Leon with him. Leon is later shown alone in Duma Tower, subject to various forms of torture, which he dies of and is then reduced to a soulless pawn of Jedah, with a helmet placed over his head and a new name given to conceal his former identity. He is among those who are fought in Duma Temple later.

The resurrection shrines? They don't exist. This said, the Necrodragons of the Dragon Shrine do appear, as the pawns of the mercenary boss en route to Mila Temple, and it here that Kamui dies to them them in an ambush attack.

Pirates also manage to tame the Necrodragon of Seabound Shrine, which is slain through via Seraphim, but only after Boey puts himself in harm's way to attempt to kill the Necrodragon via casting Sagittae, although he fails and only gets out a Thunder. Boey is left permanently wounded by this, but it triggers Celica to learn Seraphim to destroy the Necrodragon. Boey remains on hand as a friend to Celica and casts the occasional spell, but withdraws from the main fray. At Dolth Keep, Celica lacks the vitality to spam enough Seraphim to overcome Dolth's Necrodragon spam, and Nomah, Mae, and Sonya can't do enough spellcasting either. So Boey then tries to cast Sagittae once more, and does so unleashing a massive rain of magical arrows on Dolth Keep, this nearly depletes his life and he falls to his knees, a surviving Necrodragon then rushes in and grabs him in its mouth, playing with his body like a rag doll. This infuriates Mae enough to learn Seraphim and she blows up the Necrodragon, which then releases a healing shower, the final gift of Boey, who through that being tossed around was still alive to feel it all.

Palla dies in Grieth's Citadel. After the battle is won, a few surviving bandits flee into its inner parts in desperation. One runs into the prison and attempts to rape Est, but Palla and Catria get there before it can happen. Palla and Catria stop the attempted rapist, but another bandit sneaks up from behind and cleaves off all of Palla's left arm, and she dies of massive blood loss on the spot. 

Est dies before Catria, overcompensating for her sister's death, she perishes in the first encounter with Mogalls outside of Duma Tower. This was foreshadowed by her rather reckless behavior in the two Mires, where the swamp conditions make the Pegasus duo essential to victory. What does destroy all those Mogalls however is Shining Seraphim- the tandem magic attack of Celica and Mae.

Catria survives for not much longer, when things go south atop Duma Tower, she attempts to escape with Mae on her pegasus by flying off the Tower to the ground safely below. A bolt of lightning from the stormy sky above strikes the pegasus however, Mae is tossed off the pegasus onto the Tower safely, but Catria plunges with her steed killed. Gargoyles try to rend her as she falls, but she stabs them all gone. Nothing can stop her from going splat however.

Mae sees Catria's fate, and with Boey dead and Celica taken away her soul gone, she has nothing left to lose. When she sees a magical barrier blocking their escape by stairs has been erected, she blasts it with everything she has to destroy it so everyone can get out. She is successful, and everyone does flee down the stairs, and Sonya wipes out the enemies at the top with her final attack. However, it is a long trip to the bottom and there is plenty of fighting on the way down, not to mention even more monsters coming up from behind. Rather than let Valbar or someone else protect the backside, Mae does so, and it is in this way that she dies, an arrow from the legions of menaces passing through her heart. But of course, she fires off one last spell to nuke a bunch of them. Of course, nobody escapes Duma Tower, they get to the entrance, where they see Catria's impact spot, and then Jedah captures them all.

Atlas, who goes they way of a jack of all trades sword, lance, bow, axe fighter (screw impossibility!) being a greenhorn experimenting with his promising potentials, dies in the storming of Duma Gate. Somebody had to be the vanguard through the defenses, and Atlas chooses to be the one since he has continually shown himself inferior to everyone else. He is badly injured, but manages to sneak through the defenses alone to where the boss is, ready to cast for a second time his Upheaval spell, the first casting of which Atlas saw as it wrecked Celica's forces. Atlas thus comes out of his stealth and swinging a small axe, decapitates the guy as he just finishes the spell. The spell this backfires, leveling Duma Gate and Atlas is killed by falling debris.

Nomah, dies ascending Duma Tower. Earlier, he displays signs of ill-health, then he attempts like Sonya to challenge Jedah at the Swamps of Duma, which does not go over exactly well (note that through the combined might of everyone, Jedah is defeated here after the Mogalls are blasted through, but it does convince them of how strong he is). During the ascent of Duma Tower, old Nomah feels fatigued by the climb and asks if he may rest for a moment, everyone else is willing to rest with him, but he tells them to hurry on and despite their protests, they go along with it. Nomah then mutters to himself how useless he is as an old man, and patiently waits for the monsters to come and devour him, better him than the rest. Strangely, very few terrors come to take his life, which he takes a sign they're focusing on Celica and co.. He then senses at one point a very strong terror awaiting near the top of Duma Tower, and decides he must do something about it, but how to get there? While Celica and co. confront this terror, say a White Dragon or Garuda, a large magic blast destroys it, and then it is noticed that Nomah is suddenly there. He tried as Jedah and all those other Duma Faithful can do, that is warping, thinking it would be the only way for him to catch up with the rest. Unfortunately, it took a lot out of him, as did the spell, and he needs to rest for a moment more. But Celica cannot rest, Alm is in danger and cannot for prophecy's sake die, thus he convinces Celica and co. to go on to the very top without him, while he closes his eyes one last time.

 

...The fates of Alm's crew will be detailed later, but know there will be BLOOD! Except for Zeke, Minerva needs no Whitewings, but for Archanea's sake, Zeke will have to fall into a river- his memories surviving this time.

Holy Shit. Leon's sounds straight out of Mother 3.

 

Also I kind of have an idea that Lukas manages to kill a zombie Fernand but gets killed by Berkut in the process, turning Duma possessed, but still fighting on the inside. He manages to rip through Berkut, Rinea and knocks Duma to about half hp with his own power before dying to Leon, still seeing him as "an old friend from Askr"

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Hopefully no one. I want it to be like that one Blade of Light manga where it simply ups the roles of the side characters. Give them IMPORTANCE. It was badass that instead of killing off Cain, Draug, Gordin and whoever... They made them more important especially Abel.

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7 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Everyone but Alm dies along the way.

Their deaths weight heavily on Alm's mind, and he grows increasingly emotionally fatigued by it all, regretful of his actions, but knowing he must continue onwards to correct his mistakes, even though they grow. Not even Celica is above the black spectre.

Berkut lives longer than Jedah, who is stabbed to death by Berkut in a fit of rage at Duma Temple after the Rinea sacrifice, but Jedah smiles happily as he passes on, knowing the ultimate warrior of the degenerate god is born. So that Alm may acquire the Falchion and save Celica, Mycen buys time for him from the empowered Berkut, losing his own life in the process.

Conrad spends the entire time inside Duma Temple fighting soulless Celica, and when Alm shows up he lets himself die to get her to come to something of her senses.

Mila is only able to restore Celica's soul, and her body is badly injured from all the fighting, so she is quite weak. Alm brings her to the double doors to Duma's chamber in his arms, and together they open them just enough to pass through. Afterwards, Celica collapses dying of her injuries, her brand hand resting in Alm's. Alm walks into Duma's chamber and Duma watches a one-on-one duel between Alm and Berkut, with Celica's soul powering Alm and that plus the Falchion gives Alm the power to overcome the transformed Berkut. Afterwards, Alm slices through Duma in a single blow. Thanking Alm for his act with his final words, everyone is by the last act of his powers revived. The end.

What happened to Marle and Heste? Genny, who along with Valbar and Saber were the only survivors of Celica's group besides Conrad to get into Duma Temple, was "played with" by Jedah, Berkut, their minions and the sisters in Duma's chamber before Alm got into the Temple. Genny, to honor her promise to Sonya, commits an act of holy suicide by blowing herself and Sonya's sisters up with her, liberating their souls. Valbar tanks a horde of arrows, swords, lances, Mogall strikes, and even magic blows, he slightly injures Berkut and then goes to stab Jedah for revenge for Kamui and particularly Leon, but is killed. Berkut gripes that such a stupid hulk could bother him and that he needs more POWAH! Saber after Valbar's initial round of tanking, goes on a rampage, slicing through many of the human enemies and all the Mogalls, he gets as far as Duma himself, whom he leaps and strikes at, but then has his lungs pierced by Duma's tentacles in midair.

Sonya herself is among the casualties at the top of Duma Tower after Celica gives over her soul. Jedah at first decides to purge everyone, only to change his tune and capture the rest for execution later after some fighting. Sonya attempts to exact revenge on Jedah once more, suffering a terrible wound as a result. Genny tries to heal Sonya, but tells her to concern herself with others first, they need it more. Sonya then relays her last words to Genny and tells her to leave her alone, she still has one trick left up her sleeve. Left completely undefended and alone, Sonya soon becomes the target of countless enemies, and then she casts Excalibur on herself, creating a ginormous wind explosion that rips her to shreds and takes many of the terrors with her. Just before she does this, she mutters to herself that in suicide Jedah will be denied her soul, she will die freely and on her own terms.

Deen is never recruited, he is fought an enemy and dies with nothing more than passing recollection of his good and bad memories going by in his head before his eyes shut one last time. Jesse gets even less, he never appears outside of Silque's recruitment by Alm, when she recalls memories of the handsome man who rescued her, and then died for her.Leon is another Duma Tower victim, after having attempted to rain arrows upon Jedah in the prior battle in the swamp, Jedah decides he will deal with this little gnat. Jedah shows his full magical might and strikes Leon, injuring him. Jedah then decides Leon is an "interesting fellow" and when he warps away, takes Leon with him. Leon is later shown alone in Duma Tower, subject to various forms of torture, which he dies of and is then reduced to a soulless pawn of Jedah, with a helmet placed over his head and a new name given to conceal his former identity. He is among those who are fought in Duma Temple later.

The resurrection shrines? They don't exist. This said, the Necrodragons of the Dragon Shrine do appear, as the pawns of the mercenary boss en route to Mila Temple, and it here that Kamui dies to them them in an ambush attack.

Pirates also manage to tame the Necrodragon of Seabound Shrine, which is slain through via Seraphim, but only after Boey puts himself in harm's way to attempt to kill the Necrodragon via casting Sagittae, although he fails and only gets out a Thunder. Boey is left permanently wounded by this, but it triggers Celica to learn Seraphim to destroy the Necrodragon. Boey remains on hand as a friend to Celica and casts the occasional spell, but withdraws from the main fray. At Dolth Keep, Celica lacks the vitality to spam enough Seraphim to overcome Dolth's Necrodragon spam, and Nomah, Mae, and Sonya can't do enough spellcasting either. So Boey then tries to cast Sagittae once more, and does so unleashing a massive rain of magical arrows on Dolth Keep, this nearly depletes his life and he falls to his knees, a surviving Necrodragon then rushes in and grabs him in its mouth, playing with his body like a rag doll. This infuriates Mae enough to learn Seraphim and she blows up the Necrodragon, which then releases a healing shower, the final gift of Boey, who through that being tossed around was still alive to feel it all.

Palla dies in Grieth's Citadel. After the battle is won, a few surviving bandits flee into its inner parts in desperation. One runs into the prison and attempts to rape Est, but Palla and Catria get there before it can happen. Palla and Catria stop the attempted rapist, but another bandit sneaks up from behind and cleaves off all of Palla's left arm, and she dies of massive blood loss on the spot. 

Est dies before Catria, overcompensating for her sister's death, she perishes in the first encounter with Mogalls outside of Duma Tower. This was foreshadowed by her rather reckless behavior in the two Mires, where the swamp conditions make the Pegasus duo essential to victory. What does destroy all those Mogalls however is Shining Seraphim- the tandem magic attack of Celica and Mae.

Catria survives for not much longer, when things go south atop Duma Tower, she attempts to escape with Mae on her pegasus by flying off the Tower to the ground safely below. A bolt of lightning from the stormy sky above strikes the pegasus however, Mae is tossed off the pegasus onto the Tower safely, but Catria plunges with her steed killed. Gargoyles try to rend her as she falls, but she stabs them all gone. Nothing can stop her from going splat however.

Mae sees Catria's fate, and with Boey dead and Celica taken away her soul gone, she has nothing left to lose. When she sees a magical barrier blocking their escape by stairs has been erected, she blasts it with everything she has to destroy it so everyone can get out. She is successful, and everyone does flee down the stairs, and Sonya wipes out the enemies at the top with her final attack. However, it is a long trip to the bottom and there is plenty of fighting on the way down, not to mention even more monsters coming up from behind. Rather than let Valbar or someone else protect the backside, Mae does so, and it is in this way that she dies, an arrow from the legions of menaces passing through her heart. But of course, she fires off one last spell to nuke a bunch of them. Of course, nobody escapes Duma Tower, they get to the entrance, where they see Catria's impact spot, and then Jedah captures them all.

Atlas, who goes they way of a jack of all trades sword, lance, bow, axe fighter (never mind the impossibility!) being a greenhorn experimenting with his promising potentials, dies in the storming of Duma Gate. Somebody had to be the vanguard through the defenses, and Atlas chooses to be the one since he has continually shown himself inferior to everyone else. He is badly injured, but manages to sneak through the defenses alone to where the boss is, ready to cast for a second time his Upheaval spell, the first casting of which Atlas saw as it wrecked Celica's forces. Atlas thus comes out of his stealth and swinging a small axe, decapitates the guy as he just finishes the spell. The spell this backfires, leveling Duma Gate and Atlas is killed by falling debris.

Nomah, dies ascending Duma Tower. Earlier, he displays signs of ill-health, then he attempts like Sonya to challenge Jedah at the Swamps of Duma, which does not go over exactly well (note that through the combined might of everyone, Jedah is defeated here after the Mogalls are blasted through, but it does convince them of how strong he is). During the ascent of Duma Tower, old Nomah feels fatigued by the climb and asks if he may rest for a moment, everyone else is willing to rest with him, but he tells them to hurry on and despite their protests, they go along with it. Nomah then mutters to himself how useless he is as an old man, and patiently waits for the monsters to come and devour him, better him than the rest. Strangely, very few terrors come to take his life, which he takes a sign they're focusing on Celica and co.. He then senses at one point a very strong terror awaiting near the top of Duma Tower, and decides he must do something about it, but how to get there? While Celica and co. confront this terror, say a White Dragon or Garuda, a large magic blast destroys it, and then it is noticed that Nomah is suddenly there. He tried as Jedah and all those other Duma Faithful can do, that is warping, thinking it would be the only way for him to catch up with the rest. Unfortunately, it took a lot out of him, as did the spell, and he needs to rest for a moment more. But Celica cannot rest, Alm is in danger and cannot for prophecy's sake die, thus he convinces Celica and co. to go on to the very top without him, while he closes his eyes one last time.

 

...The fates of Alm's crew will be detailed later, but know there will be BLOOD! Except for Zeke, Minerva needs no Whitewings, but for Archanea's sake, Zeke will have to fall into a river- his memories surviving this time.

Wow. Just wow. That's fucked up

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19 hours ago, Nintenderper said:

Well I feel like if they didn't kill anyone off it would kind of feel like they took out a huge chunk of what makes Fire Emblem...Fire Emblem.

I disagree entirely. I feel like if a bunch of people die then they took out a huge chunk of what makes Fire Emblem...Fire Emblem. 

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Catria , Palla Est and Zeke can't die .Echoes takes place before important event for them (right?).

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My guess, besides Kliff because of the Gaiden Manga and Deen because can't have both Sonja and Deen would be Kamui.

Why Kamui? Guy really doesn't have much plot relevance. He's there for the money.

Perhaps they could compromise using the resurrection shrines along the way for Kliff and Kamui.

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15 hours ago, nosef said:

Catria , Palla Est and Zeke can't die .Echoes takes place before important event for them (right?).

Correct. Tatiana couldn't die either, given Zeke's story and ending in Mystery. 

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On ‎6‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 7:49 PM, thecrimsonflash said:

poor Deen, probably won't ever even get in heroes, I hear even his portrait was reused in gaiden for a random boss.

Blake had the same portrait, but reversed IIRC. Good thing their new designs are completely different. Funnily enough, Blake's "new" appearance is basically their portrait, so he was probably one of the least changed characters. They're both Celica's route to boot.

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Funny note: The Gaiden manga messed up and put Deen's scar on his other eye.

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Didn't kliff die to desaix in the Gaiden manga or something? Maybe just have it keep the same deaths or something?

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Both the novel and manga choose Sonya over poor Deen.

2 hours ago, DisobeyedCargo said:

Didn't kliff die to desaix in the Gaiden manga or something? Maybe just have it keep the same deaths or something?

Yes. 

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Also in the novel, he dies during the final battle, leaving his long-lost sister Silque to mourn him.

All the deaths in the novel were based off the Author's personal play through.

 

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6 minutes ago, Emperor Hardin said:

Both the novel and manga choose Sonya over poor Deen.

Yes. 

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Also in the novel, he dies during the final battle, leaving his long-lost sister Silque to mourn him.

All the deaths in the novel were based off the Author's personal play through.

 

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kliffs sister silque?

 

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2 minutes ago, DisobeyedCargo said:
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kliffs sister silque?

 

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They are revealed to be half siblings in the novel.

 

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1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said:
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They are revealed to be half siblings in the novel.

 

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interesting...

 

sounds like an interesting read

 

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1 minute ago, DisobeyedCargo said:
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interesting...

 

sounds like an interesting read

 

Interestingly Kaga liked it a lot and said he liked it when players came up with their storylines  for the cast.

There were also quite a bit of deaths, again based on the real play through.

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1 minute ago, Emperor Hardin said:

Interestingly Kaga liked it a lot and said he liked it when players came up with their storylines  for the cast.

There were also quite a bit of deaths, again based on the real play through.

ill have to check it out

 

if Mae dies ill be sad

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