Lost Impact Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Random thought I had for a Radiant Dawn what-if scenario. What would happen if Micaiah went with the Black Knight to the Tower of Guidance (where she would meet Sephiran), during the desert chapter 4-3 Distortions? What effect would this have on the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Presumably Sephiran would try to confirm if Yune was inhabiting her body, and then Zelguis would run her through with his sword. As for what effect it would have on the story, everyone in Tellius would have been erased by Ashera, and she'd presumably start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Hmm, I doubt that. Sephiran would probably know she is the true apostle. Remember neither Sephiran nor Levail (who was under orders from Zelgius) would attack Micaiah. I doubt Sephiran would want her killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Yune is the one being that can thwart Sephiran's plan. Therefore, he has to get rid of her in order for his plan to succeed. So either he kills Micaiah, or drives Yune out of her - both achieve the same goal. Edited July 9, 2018 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, NinjaMonkey said: Presumably Sephiran would try to confirm if Yune was inhabiting her body, and then Zelguis would run her through with his sword. As for what effect it would have on the story, everyone in Tellius would have been erased by Ashera, and she'd presumably start again. Its probably the exact opposite. Sephiran is aware that Micaiah is his descendant and the Black Knight probably is so nice to her because she is the last family his master has left. Its far more likely that Sephiran keeps sending the Black Knight to protect her rather than do her harm. I think that at worst Sephiran would have a little chat and keep Michy locked in the tower for her own safety, so she doesn't get turned to stone with the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Etrurian emperor said: Sephiran is aware that Micaiah is his descendant and the Black Knight probably is so nice to her because she is the last family his master has left. So? Your statement can be equally applied to Sanaki. Therefore, this means nothing. However, Micaiah has something that Sanaki does not, namely, Yune - the one thing that can stop Sephiran's scheme - possessing her body. Edited July 9, 2018 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said: So? Your statement can be equally applied to Sanaki. Therefore, this means nothing. However, Micaiah has something that Sanaki does not, namely, Yune - the one thing that can stop Sephiran's scheme - possessing her body. And yet Sephiran won't attack Micaiah either way if you let her attack him. That he continuously sends out the Black Knight to protect her and won't even attack her in self defense is a pretty solid indicator that he never wished her any harm. Yes, the same can be said for Sanaki who he also doesn't attack but that just further proves my point. Sephiran isn't about to kill people he holds special attachment to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 In the end, Sephiran realised he was just like any other person- afraid of the people he loves getting hurt. He probably imagined it would have comforted him if he got to meet, get to know, and protec his little great-great-great-time skip-great-great granddaughter. Ike then proceeded to kick him in the head and tell him 'other people are people too!' and that is how he turned back on his doomsday plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Micaiah would probably have met Sephiran and been kept in the Tower against her will unless Sephiran truly relented on seeing her protest otherwise. She would remain there and survive Ashera's second judgement. That the BK can't chat with Sanaki in the same chapter and express the same sentiment is probably to keep Sephiran being the one trying to keep them alive a secret. The Herons it too seemed like Sephiran suggested that, given they are so heavily aligned with Order, they might have had a chance of avoiding such a fate as not chaotically flawed beings needing to be expunged from existence. Or they might not have. I'm not so sure. Edited July 9, 2018 by Interdimensional Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Oooh. Good question. I personally think Sephiran had an interest in Micaiah and Yune. Sephiran loves Yune a great deal too, he was the one that counciled for her to be spared in the first place. So I think his intention was to have Yune and Ashera talk it out and agree to become Ashunera again after the second judgement occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Would like to see Micaiah try to change Sephiran's views and protest against him locking her in the tower. But it would be interesting how the story would change if she were locked in there. Would the others manage to make their way up to where she is being held in the tower without Yune? Or would Yune inhabit one of the others (for example, Mist?)? Or would Micaiah manage to persuade Sephiran to order everyone to stand down (as in, Zelgius and Dheginsea, pretty sure Lekain would fight the group regardless, and Sothe and Naesala would destroy the blood pacts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) On 09/07/2018 at 9:19 AM, NinjaMonkey said: So? Your statement can be equally applied to Sanaki. Therefore, this means nothing. However, Micaiah has something that Sanaki does not, namely, Yune - the one thing that can stop Sephiran's scheme - possessing her body. Sanaki isn't going to be saved by Ashera's judgement so that's probably why Sephiran, and by extension Zelgius, only cared about Micaiah's survival because the fact she's Yune's Apostle gives Ashera reason to spare her. The fact in game play, Ashera nor her spirits attack Micaiah but attack Sanaki gives more credence to this. If Sephiran only cared about stopping Yune, he wouldn't have gone to the lengths to protect Micaiah especially when you consider that he didn't send the Black Knight to protect Sanaki as well. Random thought I had for a Radiant Dawn what-if scenario. What would happen if Micaiah went with the Black Knight to the Tower of Guidance (where she would meet Sephiran), during the desert chapter 4-3 Distortions? What effect would this have on the story? If she did, she'd get captured in the tower because there is no way Ashera or the Begnion Senators would let her out. Her getting captured means Yune can't bless the Chosen Ones and hence there is no way they get past Deghinsea. The world would have ended if that happened. Thankfully Micaiah was smart enough not to go with the Black Knight despite her attachment to him and her curiosity to meet Sephiran. Edited July 11, 2018 by Icelerate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 09/07/2018 at 5:55 PM, Icelerate said: Sanaki isn't going to be saved by Ashera's judgement so that's probably why Sephiran, and by extension Zelgius, only cared about Micaiah's survival because the fact she's Yune's Apostle gives Ashera reason to spare her. The fact in game play, Ashera nor her spirits attack Micaiah but attack Sanaki gives more credence to this. If Sephiran only cared about stopping Yune, he wouldn't have gone to the lengths to protect Micaiah especially when you consider that he didn't send the Black Knight to protect Sanaki as well. If she did, she'd get captured in the tower because there is no way Ashera or the Begnion Senators would let her out. Her getting captured means Yune can't bless the Chosen Ones and hence there is no way they get past Deghinsea. The world would have ended if that happened. Thankfully Micaiah was smart enough not to go with the Black Knight despite her attachment to him and her curiosity to meet Sephiran. What if Micaiah and Yune managed to persuade Sephiran not to go through with his plan? Or Yune possessed one of the other party members instead of Micaiah, such as Sanaki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Lost Impact said: What if Micaiah and Yune managed to persuade Sephiran not to go through with his plan? Or Yune possessed one of the other party members instead of Micaiah, such as Sanaki? They wouldn't be able to as it took putting him on the verge of death and then healing him to make him change his mind. I don't think Yune can use the full potential of her powers while possessing a non Apostle. Or else she could have just stayed inside the bird. Though by the time Micaiah gets warped to the tower, Yune can't just possess Sanaki because Sanaki isn't in the tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Impact Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Icelerate said: They wouldn't be able to as it took putting him on the verge of death and then healing him to make him change his mind. I don't think Yune can use the full potential of her powers while possessing a non Apostle. Or else she could have just stayed inside the bird. Though by the time Micaiah gets warped to the tower, Yune can't just possess Sanaki because Sanaki isn't in the tower. And Ike and company wouldn't be able to reach her thanks to Dheginsea. Hmm. Well I suppose that's the end of that what if scenario then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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