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Lowen is usually the cavalier that is left out if the player decides to use more than 1 cavalier as he focuses more on being a tank than being strong which since in FE7 most units can 1RKO when a unit doesn't it is usually called bad so these are Lowen's bases and growth rates:

Level: 2
HP: 23
Str: 7
Skl: 5
Spd: 7
Lck: 3
Def: 7
Res: 0
Con: 10
Mov: 7

HP: 90%
Str: 30%
Skl: 30%
Spd: 30%
Lck: 50%
Def: 40%
Res: 30%

So let me briefly talk about his stats.
HP: He can actually cap this stat at 60 without use of an Angelic Robe.
Str: His base is higher than Kent's but lowen than Sain's but both Kent's and Sain's growth is higher 
Skl: I'm not expecting much from this stat at all, he's going to be accurate when using swords but when I used silver lances in my last LP with him his hit was in the 70s and that is no good
Spd: His base speed is equal to Kent's and higher than Sain's but he is going to end up pretty slow ind the end since his growth is super low
Lck: His Luck is high for some reason this might make him look like a dodgetank but luck gives very small bonuses per point that it doesn't matter.
Def: This is is best stat he is good at taking hits and his base is also very good.
Res: His resistance stat is very big but his base means he won't be exactly very tanky.
Con: His con of 10 seems amazing but once you remember he has low speed it won't mean he will exactly double a lot of enemies.
Mov: He's a cavalier so he has 7 movement which will be pretty useful

For his supports I'm planning on supporting him with Rebecca since Fire affinity is good,although Rebecca won't be the MVP of this LP I am going to use her this time. And I'm also going to support him maybe with Eliwood since to prevent the problems from last time, I will train Eliwood a bit.

And I'm playing on Eliwood hard mode again without playing Lyn's mode but that won't really affect anyone but Sain.

Anyway without furder ado, let's go!

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you do know that this is gonna be easy as shit if he stays on his averages.

bosskills give a LOT of extra exp so levelling him is going to be incredibly easy.

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Chapter 11 Taking Leave. Ah back at the start, and now I get a time to breathe with the easy chapters plus previous run knowledge. In this chapter I supported Lowen with Rebecca and Eliwood; I also supported Bartre with Dorcas jut for fun.


5b5691cde9caa_Chapter11-1.PNG.2ce0fc668fd5d4559b45dc381bb4f829.PNG  If you guess what name has this has a Nickname (Like Nick for Nicholas) I will pass you my save of this LP once I finish it.

5b5691cf64f2c_Chapter11-2.PNG.4024ea93264e2fb9fb9d54d3a37af62a.PNG  Is he gonna pull another Rebecca where he doesn't get what he was meant to? Even if that happens he has nice bases.

5b5691d0c7d81_Chapter11-3.PNG.0437ab2fa614e9eb4d3784acf21fdc4e.PNG  Well as of this chapter he is +1 HP, +1 Str, +2 Skl, +0 Spd, +0 Lck, +1 Def and +1 Res.

5b5691d2b3899_Chapter11-4.PNG.b15332b51d56050931b5a5e0b3089a2e.PNG  Well now he is +3 Strength.

5b5691d42fd76_Chapter11-5.PNG.ebc139e5ef0554997ebd6820d04ac39c.PNG  Notice something? Yeah this time I'm not feeding every kill to Lowen like I did to Rebecca.

5b5691d56e84b_Chapter11-6.PNG.6f0d21c3dc248d430b577fa75b83807e.PNG  It actually is 10 in ENM but in EHM there are 13 enemies.


Lowen's Performance: 7/10 It's the start, nobody except Marcus ORKO enemies yet however since he is a cavalier, can take hits and has WTC he gets a 7 and not a 6.

 

17 minutes ago, Mister Rogers said:

you do know that this is gonna be easy as shit if he stays on his averages.

bosskills give a LOT of extra exp so levelling him is going to be incredibly easy.

I don't think so, unless I turtle or "Tank-turtle" (Which is what Diogo claims to play like, moving slower than the enemies but still moving) I think his combat might be low but who knows.

Also dang it I wanted to post here before someone else did so my reply was next to my post but well until next 2 months for the next episode.

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Last time I played FE7, I used Lowen and he got more Res than he should

Let's see your Lowen!

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24 minutes ago, This boi uses Nino said:

Chapter 11 Taking Leave. Ah back at the start, and now I get a time to breathe with the easy chapters plus previous run knowledge. In this chapter I supported Lowen with Rebecca and Eliwood; I also supported Bartre with Dorcas jut for fun.


5b5691cde9caa_Chapter11-1.PNG.2ce0fc668fd5d4559b45dc381bb4f829.PNG  If you guess what name has this has a Nickname (Like Nick for Nicholas) I will pass you my save of this LP once I finish it.

5b5691cf64f2c_Chapter11-2.PNG.4024ea93264e2fb9fb9d54d3a37af62a.PNG  Is he gonna pull another Rebecca where he doesn't get what he was meant to? Even if that happens he has nice bases.

5b5691d0c7d81_Chapter11-3.PNG.0437ab2fa614e9eb4d3784acf21fdc4e.PNG  Well as of this chapter he is +1 HP, +1 Str, +2 Skl, +0 Spd, +0 Lck, +1 Def and +1 Res.

5b5691d2b3899_Chapter11-4.PNG.b15332b51d56050931b5a5e0b3089a2e.PNG  Well now he is +3 Strength.

5b5691d42fd76_Chapter11-5.PNG.ebc139e5ef0554997ebd6820d04ac39c.PNG  Notice something? Yeah this time I'm not feeding every kill to Lowen like I did to Rebecca.

5b5691d56e84b_Chapter11-6.PNG.6f0d21c3dc248d430b577fa75b83807e.PNG  It actually is 10 in ENM but in EHM there are 13 enemies.


Lowen's Performance: 7/10 It's the start, nobody except Marcus ORKO enemies yet however since he is a cavalier, can take hits and has WTC he gets a 7 and not a 6.

 

I don't think so, unless I turtle or "Tank-turtle" (Which is what Diogo claims to play like, moving slower than the enemies but still moving) I think his combat might be low but who knows.

Also dang it I wanted to post here before someone else did so my reply was next to my post but well until next 2 months for the next episode.

nah Lowen should be able to kill everything in EHM with a steel sword.

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I'll spoil this:

Yes. Lowen is very good.

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1 hour ago, Slumber said:

I'll spoil this:

Yes. Lowen is very good.

yeah but he doesn't hit as many shiny numbers as the others.

 

I love lowen tbh. Golden Boy doesn't die on me.

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Lowen  normally always turn out better than Kent and Sain whenever I play FE7 somehow. 

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I usually give the ring and dracoshield to Lowen. Those simple boosts do wonders early game. Usually Lowen doesn't double things, but so does Sain but he's my best cavalier usually.

Lowen is a good boy.

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Lowen is always a good option to have when I'm too lazy to play Lyn mode and train Kent and Sain. He can take a hit rather well and his attack and speed isn't too shabby either. One of the more underrated units for sure.

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Do you really need to do a separate run for every character?

Lowen is good, but not great.

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Chapter 12: Birds of a Feather. Pretty simple chapter really just a simple rout map it wasn't really hard and since this is the 2nd map even though one of my units died it's not so long that when you lose it eliminates your will to play.


5b57c6402370e_Chapter12-1.PNG.7b6c296302ac6457c891b7f064511d9c.PNG  I was thinking about talking of Bartre's better Hit when this happened.

5b57c64185052_Chapter12-2.PNG.0f4b65f56afe2245dc8612e6c59e855c.PNG  How could this have happened twice?

5b57c642bfea4_Chapter12-3.PNG.b47b2f1b1e8d0e12ff0e58fc9396538c.PNG  This is embarrasing *sigh* Fail number one I guess.

5b57c6448d799_Chapter12-4.PNG.069583e1df1bbfcbcc70fdfd43c8b151.PNG  Oh look! My luck is finally improving!

5b57c645d846f_Chapter12-5.PNG.220d9ff708ac324c541e4df26668a3be.PNG  Are you freaking kidding me?

5b57c64736339_Chapter12-6.PNG.71ddfcf0281f6501639b87dd15932015.PNG  if you put Lowen on a Ft. you'll be fine, and since the recovery is 20% he recovers 4 HP per turn.

5b57c6497304c_Chapter12-7.PNG.8d783c7bcf58cfc9028b2042412b2364.PNG  Man I missed doing this *gasp* Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargeeeeeeeeee!

5b57c64aa830e_Chapter12-8.PNG.7bc3b1047b9c29414459909bb9ab7cb4.PNG  RI. DI. CULOUS.

5b57c64c03abe_Chapter12-9.PNG.1da25f846cf396351f42f6db33f0fbd1.PNG  Oh so Hector won't miss as often now? Neat.

5b57c64e116a4_Chapter12-10.PNG.5c6c2e2aa89245bea0b1a1e69f631d28.PNG  Cool.

5b57c64f9dfdc_Chapter12-11.PNG.34093751aa1682973091ba47468b9383.PNG  This chapter he is +1 HP, +3 Str, +2 Skl, +0 Spd, +1 Lck, +1 Def and +0 Res. So far so good.

5b57c650d9dd5_Chapter12-12.PNG.e167bd097b9a0c95cf466211a873886f.PNG  I achieved this by having a unit tank an archer in a Fort, this supports result in 47 total avoid which is insane for this point in the game.


Lowen's performance: 7/10. 

 

21 hours ago, Slumber said:

I'll spoil this:

Yes. Lowen is very good.

Let's wait and see then.

19 hours ago, Mister Rogers said:

I love lowen tbh. Golden Boy doesn't die on me.

let's see how it goes for me.

16 hours ago, Rose482 said:

Lowen  normally always turn out better than Kent and Sain whenever I play FE7 somehow. 

lucky you...

10 hours ago, Jerry Kuma said:

I usually give the ring and dracoshield to Lowen. Those simple boosts do wonders early game. Usually Lowen doesn't double things, but so does Sain but he's my best cavalier usually.

Lowen is a good boy.

I gave him the Ring and the dracoshield to Bartre to increase his survivavility.

5 hours ago, Kubson said:

Lowen is always a good option to have when I'm too lazy to play Lyn mode and train Kent and Sain. He can take a hit rather well and his attack and speed isn't too shabby either. One of the more underrated units for sure.

*Echoes of mad Serenes Forest user an be heard in the distance*

4 hours ago, Florete said:

Do you really need to do a separate run for every character?

Lowen is good, but not great.

Yes, if I were to screenshot 2 or 3 characters level ups at a time these episodes would be extremely long. 



So nobody seems to know what name people have that gets them being called Lalo so I guess nobody wants the savefile then (I would email it to you as a .SA file)

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That 93% miss, tho

Let's hope that my username doesn't appear on this run

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3 hours ago, 1% Critical Hit said:

That 93% miss, tho

Let's hope that my username doesn't appear on this run

I hope I at least get one full level up unlike my last playthrough where I never got a single complete level up. I will be extra pissed if it's Rebecca the one who gets the 1st fullevel up since she could have done that before with the AFA's drops.

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go early promote heath/rath and see how they're like.

you won't be disappointed.

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I thought Lowen was already considered a good unit?

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Just now, Mister Rogers said:

go early promote heath/rath and see how they're like.

you won't be disappointed.

Immediately? or at like 12-14?

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2 minutes ago, DisobeyedCargo said:

I thought Lowen was already considered a good unit?

I mean yeah by some people because he has a good class and better than average bases however the problem is that since most units in FE7 1RKO when a unit doesn't they really stand out and not in the good way, if he were in FE6 he would make that games Armor Knights seem even worse than they already are becasue in that game Def is rare and so is 1-Rounding so Lowen would be perfect in that game, still he has a mount which is very good.

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13 minutes ago, This boi uses Nino said:

Immediately? or at like 12-14?

either way , but I'd recommend trying the Heath+pure waters+javelins trick in the desert chapter to get a load of exp on him. Rath gets the best combat use in that one fucking gaiden with the walls and shit.

1 minute ago, This boi uses Nino said:

 

I mean yeah by some people because he has a good class and better than average bases however the problem is that since most units in FE7 1RKO when a unit doesn't they really stand out and not in the good way, if he were in FE6 he would make that games Armor Knights seem even worse than they already are becasue in that game Def is rare and so is 1-Rounding so Lowen would be perfect in that game, still he has a mount which is very good.

yeah but then again Lowen comes early as fuck and gets the shot to get a LOT of exp. His availability is the major factor in his general tiering. IMO it's perfect for the third, defensive cav archetype since it lets them shine faster. 

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6 minutes ago, Mister Rogers said:

either way , but I'd recommend trying the Heath+pure waters+javelins trick in the desert chapter to get a load of exp on him. Rath gets the best combat use in that one fucking gaiden with the walls and shit.

yeah but then again Lowen comes early as fuck and gets the shot to get a LOT of exp. His availability is the major factor in his general tiering. IMO it's perfect for the third, defensive cav archetype since it lets them shine faster. 

But don't you get Heath and rath after those maps? Also can Heath actually double those mages with 7 speed, which is lowered to 5, using the Javelin?

I know that 

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1 hour ago, Rose482 said:

Him getting speed <3 Rebecca has been found dead. 

HA, damn now I know that he is going to get Speed and Atk and end up with only 13 def : P

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Chapter 13: In Search of Truth. This chapter wasn't hard however I accidentally ended the first turn before moving most of my units, thankfully everything went well aside from some small inconveniences but it was fine in the end I also unlocked Rebecca's A support with Lowen, Bartre's A support with Dorcas and Serra's C support with Hector.


5b58d8c5d070f_Chapter13-1.PNG.f208e490482a25ff3006520c350aa578.PNG  11 Raw Str. 5 Weapon Might +4 Support Atk. Awesome.

5b58d8c71a209_Chapter13-2.PNG.5559ee012ca720f24d754c005c576b9a.PNG  Why does this give me deja vu?

5b58d8c8d991b_Chapter13-3.PNG.cba03a69b3efb4f6081d53975dd34c88.PNG  Ah right Rebecca always crits with just 13% that is what always happened in the last experiment.

5b58d8ca14b7b_Chapter13-4.PNG.ce1b5284a7cd4dec9482adf37c9d2523.PNG  Meh its a 83.47 Miss, You don't always land those I'm fine with this.

5b58d8cb81d9e_Chapter13-5.PNG.4762e4c4a9015c420c58dc51137176a7.PNG  Oh ho ho! I missed Eliwood's Lord critical, so satisfying.

5b58d8cd8df29_Chapter13-6.PNG.682c56b6a0d1684596da3be56e48156c.PNG  Hector: Wait Lalo don't-   Lalo: Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargeeeeeeeeeeee!   Hector: *In a low annoyed voice* OMFG.

5b58d8cfe5eb1_Chapter13-7.PNG.8cf1da1f7fd8d4a07f95c61afc2df462.PNG  Oh cool my first under 50 hit. This one is 42.78.

5b58d8d186fd8_Chapter13-8.PNG.59d2f282f0df0d903b1ffcf2f0c7f5b4.PNG  Alright Bartre I forgive about yesterday.

5b58d8d350346_Chapter13-9.PNG.313c172aa4eb20a41988cd995aeaac36.PNG  C rank in Swords so soon, wow I underestimated him a lot.

5b58d8d4c7501_Chapter13-10.PNG.34fe1a409fd04ff5cf15f223b5ea7f79.PNG  ... A 92.20%? Oh fine, Lowen geez why did you-

5b58d8d65732b_Chapter13-11.PNG.6ae33dd9e459b71c620400fd0184d0eb.PNG  (This is the next round) Again? why? Lowen can you please not-

5b58d8d7bebcb_Chapter13-12.PNG.dffcebc3e626e27a5a2c3ff6b99d7f6d.PNG  Lowen: Hey I think it's time for...   Lalo: *Sigh* I can't believe this.   Lowen: Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargeeeeeeee!

5b58d8d937cda_Chapter13-13.PNG.931d3f42165da40c4958d3cd79937e42.PNG  Lowen: Oh come on! I bet this is RNG from ending a turn prematurely Lalo!   Lalo: Don't blame your misses on me!


Lowen's Performance: 6.5/10. This time Lowen didn't do much although that was mostly my fault as missing one turn made things way slower and thus wasted him some combat experience he would have used to get to Level 8 since the gap to that next level is 8 EXP.


Alright so I'll change the challenge and please read this.

The first Man and first Woman to comment here will get my Save file with lowen sent, and here's the thing if you win 2 save files you get to choose my next experiment on FE6, 7 or 8. Why would you want the save file? Well for fun Link Arena Battles.

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Which mode is this on? Either way I'll take it 

although im not sure if you can send rom save states on sf per rules, but patches are allowed so I'm not sure 

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2 minutes ago, DisobeyedCargo said:

Which mode is this on? Either way I'll take it 

although im not sure if you can send rom save states on sf per rules, but patches are allowed so I'm not sure 

I already specified that it was EHM in the introduction post.

No I'm sending an SA1 file, the Saves that VBA uses, through Gmail PM me at the end of this series to get it.

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