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1 hour ago, DiogoJorge said:

The chapter requirement is 16 turns, and I think it's possible to get to both shops by turn 14. At which point Darin is already long dead and Hector is just waiting to seize throne.

14 turns? I would think that 10 turns is a more reasonable goal or evem 11 but 14 seems like a lot.

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5 minutes ago, Critical Sniper said:

14 turns? I would think that 10 turns is a more reasonable goal or evem 11 but 14 seems like a lot.

10 turns is what it takes to reach Darin and kill him possibly. If I do it in 14, that will be fine, if I can do it in less, all the better, but I will not aim too high, I have plenty of turns to spare, and it does good to get more kills for everyone.

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12 minutes ago, DiogoJorge said:

10 turns is what it takes to reach Darin and kill him possibly. If I do it in 14, that will be fine, if I can do it in less, all the better, but I will not aim too high, I have plenty of turns to spare, and it does good to get more kills for everyone.

I suppose

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Anyway, I'm going to repost the turn requirements for all HHM chapters for reference and because I still have a few doubts about how it works:

Turn requirements

Chapter 11: 0 turns

Chapter 12: 8 turns

Chapter 13: 12 turns

Chapter 13x: 7 turns (Defense chapter)

Chapter 14: 10 turns

Chapter 15: 0 turns (Defense chapter)

Chapter 16: 7 turns

Chapter 17: 18 turns

Chapter 17x: 10 turns

Chapter 18: 11 turns (Can kill boss for no defense chapter turn cost)

Chapter 19: 10 turns

Chapter 19x: 10 turns (103 turns total to this point)

Chapter 19xx: 0 turns

Chapter 20: 16 turns

Chapter 21: 9 turns

Chapter 22: 11 turns (Can kill boss for no Defense chapter turn cost)

Chapter 23: 9 turns

Chapter 23x: 25 turns

Chapter 24 Linus: 22 turns

Chapter 25: 0 turns

Chapter 26: 11 turns (Defense chapter)

Chapter 27 Jerme: 25 turns (231 turns to this point)

Chapter 28: 15 turns (Defense Chapter)

Chapter 28x: 28 turns

Chapter 29: 20 turns

Chapter 30: 0 turns

Chapter 31: 11 turns (Defense Chapter)

Chapter 31x: 5 turns (technically a defense chapter)

Chapter 32: 15 turns

Chapter 32x: 0 turns

Chapter Final 1: 8 turns

Chapter Final 2: 2 turns

Total summed: 335 turns or lower for 5 stars in tactics.

 

Completely different from what I initially posted, because I assumed that I should discount turns for the defense chapters and Hector chapters, until I realized that the game still counts those, since the Defense chapters end on player phase after the last turn. A silly mistake, but I don't fully understood how the turn requirements work in this game. Any player familiar with the turn requirements can tell if 335 turns is accurate or if I missed something?

 

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1 hour ago, Dean said:

335 turns is accurate.

I see, that is better than I expected.This will allow me to easen it a bit on the later chapters with all the rushing. As long as most chapters are close to to the turn requirement and I exploit the turn goldmines, 335 is a simple matter.

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Well, did it in 12 turns, despite some trouble with recruiting Legault, since I didn't realize I was blocking his path and thus he wouldn't come closer. 

Well, then, for this chapter's level ups:

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More SPD, nothing else to write home about, doing well enough so far.

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Priscila became a bit sturdier, so she might be worth using more often now.

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Still waiting for that SPD, but DEF is still welcome.

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Passable, I suppose

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Alright, she has grown a bit more in STR than normal, always a good thing.

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Well done, that will do, but next time give me STR.

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Not happening quite yet.

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It's decent, SPD is what he needs more and SKL and RES are something he needs.

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Hector maxes DEF. Good for him.

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Alright, not bad at all.

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Still no SPD, but he does apreciate the STR and RES boost.

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Finally, Hector decides to grace us with a RES level up, also maxes STR.

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Lucky Sain gets more RES again. STR as well, no SPD this time though, it will do.

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One can't expect good levels all the time. MAG is welcome however.

EDIT: I forgot to post the video, here it is.

 

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I'm just thinking I'm not going to bug Diogo too much on every word I'm just going to pick 2 or 3 but I feel like talking about most of them, in a good way I unequipped my bronze sword.

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More SPD, nothing else to write home about, doing well enough so far.

Can you please pass some of that luck to me? She is +1 Str and +1 Spd, I really want to use her in my first HHM run so please?

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Priscila became a bit sturdier, so she might be worth using more often now.

Obviously if you don't grab a unit for 6 or 8 chapters they will look bad but she still was worth using at base. No surprise from me obviously, 7 mov, good base and growths.

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Not happening quite yet.

ELIGOOD.  That's just my retardedness, forget I did that.

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Still no SPD, but he does apreciate the STR and RES boost.

Hey that's pretty good, he is underblessed in speed by 1 but he is higher in all other stats except strength and luck. I guess I have been giving him little credit despite my bias for high mov, well I'm being a hypocrite there.


So nice levels, did you manage to do the 14 turn clear you were planning? I just saw that you did in 12, oops. Did you manage the secret shops though?

As for Lyn mode which units do you think I should focus more on? I am planning to use both the energy ring and the angelic robe so I'm not S ranking it but I would like to not grind as well. I feel like maybe giving Dorcas some attention or both statboosters would be cool since he joins the team very early maybe next for Erk,so angelic robe to Erk and Strength ring to Dorcas?

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9 hours ago, Critical Sniper said:

I'm just thinking I'm not going to bug Diogo too much on every word I'm just going to pick 2 or 3 but I feel like talking about most of them, in a good way I unequipped my bronze sword.

Can you please pass some of that luck to me? She is +1 Str and +1 Spd, I really want to use her in my first HHM run so please?

Obviously if you don't grab a unit for 6 or 8 chapters they will look bad but she still was worth using at base. No surprise from me obviously, 7 mov, good base and growths.

ELIGOOD.  That's just my retardedness, forget I did that.

Hey that's pretty good, he is underblessed in speed by 1 but he is higher in all other stats except strength and luck. I guess I have been giving him little credit despite my bias for high mov, well I'm being a hypocrite there.


So nice levels, did you manage to do the 14 turn clear you were planning? I just saw that you did in 12, oops. Did you manage the secret shops though?

As for Lyn mode which units do you think I should focus more on? I am planning to use both the energy ring and the angelic robe so I'm not S ranking it but I would like to not grind as well. I feel like maybe giving Dorcas some attention or both statboosters would be cool since he joins the team very early maybe next for Erk,so angelic robe to Erk and Strength ring to Dorcas?

Actually  her SPD is in accordance to her averages, got a bit lenient though, I probably should have not focused on giving kills to Eliwood so much in her place. She would usually be lv 11 by now.

I suppose, I was going to use Serra for sleep staff against the thief with member card, but since I intended to finish this chapter in fewer turns, I decided that I would bet on the unlock staff instead and so choose Priscilla, which for once, it's one of those moments where movement has notable use.

Well, he's lv 12, so him being good isn't that unbelieavable. If only he had 6 STR, 6 DEF and 8 SPD base, he would have a much better start and thus wouldn't be an average unit due to his poor start.

Yeah, I'm aware, that dracoshield I used on him is paying off just as I expected. Even if he didn't got DEF blessed, at this point he would still have around 11 DEF with dracoshield, so he would have still do a good job all the same.

Yeah, I did manage, had to buy the Physic for full price though, I should have left the Silver card on her hands, but forgot to have Marcus give it to her.

The units I focus on are usually Lyn, Matthew, Kent, Sain, Florina and Lucius (Lucius is optional, you are free to not use him much, since he's still decent with less levels, but do try to level him at least once). Lyn has Mani Katti, since it's pretty much the best weapon in her mode, so you can pass her iron sword to Sain btw.

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Chapter 21, finished in 9 turns, the right amount, no extra turns gained or lost.

Now, for the level ups:

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That's much better, after your previous level fiasco

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It's official, Rebecca will be the main archer. Not that I was planning on using Wil, but I might would have to use Rath if Rebecca was unlucky with her growths. I'm probably still going to use him a couple of times for some extra experience for the rank, though.

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It's a short chapter, so I deployed Serra for this one. some typical growths, not impressive, but will do.

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Raven has a good time fightning at the arena for a decent level up

 

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Alright, you already maxed STR and DEF, so at this point your levels aren't going to make much difference. SPD is welcome though.

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Kent doesn't get tired of his DEF level ups. That would  have been 12 whitout the Dracoshield. Well done, I might not even need to early promote you to deal with Eubans.

Here is the video of this chapter:

 

I also have  posted the videos for chapters 19xx and 20 in their respective posts which I forgot before.

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9 hours ago, Critical Sniper said:

Kent needs more strength to fight Eubans doesn't he?

Does he? More STR would be nice, but Eubans has 13 DEF, so it's no big issue, since Kent can double him. And I still have Lancereaver and against the only weapon he uses which is a spear. Got to make sure to keep at least 1 use of Lancreaver though, it will play an important part in chapter 26.

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2 hours ago, DiogoJorge said:

Does he? More STR would be nice, but Eubans has 13 DEF, so it's no big issue, since Kent can double him. And I still have Lancereaver and against the only weapon he uses which is a spear. Got to make sure to keep at least 1 use of Lancreaver though, it will play an important part in chapter 26.

Oh right well let's see how he does, will you be giving the kill to Kent or will you just be using him to let someone like Rebecca have the kill?

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Exp is the rank you should be most worried about. I've been watching your videos and you look to only be about 30 EXP above the current 5-star requirements, and EXP rank gets much harder to maintain the further into the game you get. (the EXP requirement for maps like 32 and Final are absurdly huge). You'd really want to have a good 23x/24/25.

 

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4 hours ago, Dean said:

Exp is the rank you should be most worried about. I've been watching your videos and you look to only be about 30 EXP above the current 5-star requirements, and EXP rank gets much harder to maintain the further into the game you get. (the EXP requirement for maps like 32 and Final are absurdly huge). You'd really want to have a good 23x/24/25.

Agreed, if @DiogoJorge keeps the exp rank that way it might make the run collapse if he does one tiny mistake, I'm praying that doesn't happen though.

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5 hours ago, Critical Sniper said:

Agreed, if @DiogoJorge keeps the exp rank that way it might make the run collapse if he does one tiny mistake, I'm praying that doesn't happen though.

 It simply means I will have to start babying Dorcas, Bartre, Canas, Erk and Lowen a bit as well use Nino. Possibly, also recruit Farina, but we will see, I will probably keep a save file at 25 just in case, but I'm not going to recruit Farina. How do you know how much experience I have? Have you been counting everysingle level up so far?

Anyway, due to a recording mistake, I'm going have to redo chapter 21, which I fortunately kept a save from then just in case something like this happened. That means that stats will be different than the one in the video.

I'm redoing as close as possible to the original video so there's as little deviations as possible.

Here's the levels that are different from the original:

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Okay, that is fine

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Alright, all good stats to rise on

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Will do

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nothing impressive

 

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Don't get too blessed, please. I need you closer to your averages so I can use this as proof that you are good.

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Alright, not bad at all. Guess I got a lucky break from having to redo this again. Just a pity that he doesn't have 14 DEF anymore.

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5 hours ago, DiogoJorge said:

 It simply means I will have to start babying Dorcas, Bartre, Canas, Erk and Lowen a bit as well use Nino. Possibly, also recruit Farina, but we will see, I will probably keep a save file at 25 just in case, but I'm not going to recruit Farina. How do you know how much experience I have? Have you been counting everysingle level up so far?

Oh well that might be, I don't know how much experience you have it's the other guy that apparently does which I guess is helpful.
 

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Don't get too blessed, please. I need you closer to your averages so I can use this as proof that you are good.

I honestly want to see her super strong tho, I myself personally and in a I-don't-want-to-start-a-discussion way think she isn't very good for not having much enemy phase and not many strong enemies where you need one superpower to one round him and only that troublesome guy but I still like using her ever since that Rebecca experiment thing I did. Make her queen of Elibe! +2 HP +3 Str =Skl =Spd -2 Luck =Def =Res

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Chapter 22 done in 11 turns. Now, for the level ups:

 

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That will do. All you have to do is dance anyway

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Will do. More SPD is nice as well LUK makes for a good combination for Kent who wants both.

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Meh

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Good level up for Eliwood, keep those coming.

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Nice. But you could do with a bit of extra STR.

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That's more like it.

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HP only, pull yourself together, Raven.

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Finally, some more SPD, about time too.

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not bad at all.

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Alright, that is decent enough

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Hector's final level has some more of the HP only curse

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Kent's final level just couldn't do with not gaining DEF.

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Kent becomes a Paladin. It was been fun Marcus, but Kent is the real Paladin here.

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Heath shuts up Eubans and gets a good level up for his troubles.

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Chapter 23 done in 15 turns. Could have been 13, but I forgot where the body ring was located, so I had to check and lost a couple of turns in the process. Genesis is generous with it's turn count, so I will just have to finish it at around turn 15 to compensate.

Now, the levels for this chapter:

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Nicely done

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You still refuse to grow SPD. Well I was planning to use Pent and Priscilla as healers anyway.

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Raven maxed SPD and gets some DEF to boot. Not bad.

 

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He certainly needs more STR, so despite being unimpressive, it still goes where it counts

 

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Good, this should do for chapter 25

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More DEF, that will do, but next time give me SPD.

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Can't always get good level ups.

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Good work. Keep that STR coming

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No SPD again

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A bit meh, but he delivers with STR and SPD, so will do for now

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That is good enough.

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Could do with something better

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Yep, you are determined to be SPD screwed no matter what.

 

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Chapter 23x finished in 18 turns. Due to some careless moves, I ended up taking more time than needed. I really didn't think this one perfectly through. Also ended up using a Fila's might on Rebecca by accident, completely forgetting that her Longbow couldnt' reach her target. Must be because it was 10 PM when I did it. Whetever the case, my experience rank has returned to 5 stars, now I will just have to keep that up in the future chapters.

Now, the levels:

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Considering her luck with growths, it's only fair she gets a bad level up to even out things

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Dart is doing fine

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Meh

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Meh, again, still, SPD is welcome

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Don't intend to use you, so don't care

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Becoming sturdier is a good thing for you

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Way to go, now I don't have to feel bad about deploying you for the next chapter to recruit Geitz.

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holy cow, 4 SPD in 4 levels, now that's something else.

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Okay, will do, somewhat.

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Well, you gained STR, so that's already reason to celebrate.

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Not bad, but you still won't be used.

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sigh...

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Alright... But how about some HP as well?

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Good going

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Are  you trying to compete with Oswin in DEF by any chance? Because, mission acomplished.

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4 hours ago, DiogoJorge said:

Yeah, got ridiculously lucky with his DEF, which makes me extra glad I gave a dracoshield to him back in chapter 17

Lol like +5 or well technically +3 w/o dracoshield.

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I wonder who I shall give the Afa's drops to. I'm inclined towards Fiora.

HP 75% STR 40% SKL 65% SPD 55% LUK 35% DEF 25% RES 55%

That way, her STR growth will be less shaky and she would have growths on pair with that of a cavalier like Kent. She's also one of the lower leveled units, so she would benefit the most. Florina could be an alternative, but I'm not sure if I'm going to use her.

Speaking of wich, I wonder if I should use Seraph robe on Fiora.

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