Silverly Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Johann said: Dunno why anyone would be upset over 2 more Atk I think it’s more about the precedent it sets than what the skill itself does. Will more skills become obsolete (even some good ones like Life and Death or Fury) in favor of of these fancier, likely locked to 5* units? It just leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johann said: Ah good, after a year and a half, someone finally explained what Atk does to me, because I'm 4 years old and just mashing the screen randomly when I play I don't really see how good, or otherwise, you are at the game affects why I think DB4 is bit of an odd choice to start with as the first level 4 skill. ...I suppose I should apologize for daring to have opinions different from yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 To quote Odin on the Tier 4 skills: "I'm so excited!?!?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Tier 4 skills? Doesn't have Hector's Lance Quick Risposte 5 in-built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Tier 4 skills? Doesn't have Hector's Lance Quick Risposte 5 in-built? Shouldn't look at Prfs for skill balance. Urvan has like 5 different deflect effects and is a killer weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: Shouldn't look at Prfs for skill balance. Urvan has like 5 different deflect effects and is a killer weapon. Urvan was released before the seals it powercreeped in advance. But I guess you are right about prfs. Any chance that my Klein will be able to learn DB4? Edited August 21, 2018 by mampfoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 YES!!! MY REINHARDT IS HAPPY!!! 1 hour ago, Humanoid said: What would Bold Fighter 4 do? Enable the effect when unit is at negative 50% HP? :P Maybe they can add a third new effect. Having Desperation always active would be nice. OR, instead of counting down by Specials by 2, it can count them down by 3! Brave-Luna-Bold Fighter new meta! 44 minutes ago, Time the Crestfallen said: Tier IV skills being inheritable is absolutely ridiculous and I despise it, but I find it amusing that limits on skill inheritance means that in theory, you'd have to kill an entirely seperate unit for DB 1 and then sac Celica for 2, 3, and 4. Effie and Hawkeye are in the 3*-4* pool along with Klein, so Death Blow 1 is not exactly hard to find as long as you are not a free player with limited Orbs. 35 minutes ago, Sunsurge said: I don't think they'd make Tier 4 skills of EVERYTHING. Like let's just be realistic. But there are definitely a fair amount of skills that could use a 4. So I for one am excited about some Tier 4 skills. Not excited about them being exclusive and limited to 5* only units that are hard to get. I think so too. I do not think they are going to give every skill a boost, especially skills like Bold Fighter (although I would not mind it if they do), but some skills like Brash Assault do need a boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 we totally need ARMORED BLOW 4 or WARDING BLOW 4 for the sweet extra damage on player phase iceberg/bonfire activations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jave Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I'm personally eager for Death Blow 7 Lilina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, SilvertheShadow said: I think it’s more about the precedent it sets than what the skill itself does. Will more skills become obsolete (even some good ones like Life and Death or Fury) in favor of of these fancier, likely locked to 5* units? It just leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. They'll get over it. That new skills like this can exist should be seen as increased opportunities, since they're not taking away the old skills or making them "obsolete", they're expanding them. It's good for the same reason Slaying Edge+ being added was, ultimately, very much good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, mampfoid said: Tier 4 skills? Doesn't have Hector's Lance Quick Risposte 5 in-built? Refined Sol Katti has Brash Assault 6.5. Assassin Bow has Daggerbreaker 5.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Assassin Bow has Daggerbreaker 5.5. The powercreep began at release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zangetsu Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) I'm willing to see where this go 1st, but I'm not liking the idea of another tiers for whales. Although nothing so far has reinforce that notion. Edited August 21, 2018 by Zangetsu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, mampfoid said: Tier 4 skills? Doesn't have Hector's Lance Quick Risposte 5 in-built? They might not be linear. If they ever do a QR4, I'd expect it to have the 50% threshold rather than 60%, and Brash Assault 4 would probably have the 75% threshold. I have no idea how to feel about this, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Othin said: I have no idea how to feel about this, tbh. Same here. I hope it's not the first step on the ladder to 6* rarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mampfoid said: Same here. I hope it's not the first step on the ladder to 6* rarities. I don't think a traditional 6* rarity is realistic, since it'd mean telling people (particularly whales) that their 5* +10 units are now worthless. Improving the skills available at 5* feels like a replacement for that, and this is far from the first instance of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Othin said: I don't think a traditional 6* rarity is realistic, since it'd mean telling people (particularly whales) that their 5* +10 units are now worthless. Improving the skills available at 5* feels like a replacement for that, and this is far from the first instance of it. I hope you are right. I'm curious if and how they will make DB4 available for units like Klein, Effie and Hawkeye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mampfoid said: I hope you are right. I'm curious if and how they will make DB4 available for units like Klein, Effie and Hawkeye. They might make it accessible through a weapon refinery-like feature. Or they might just make it inheritance only. Hard to say. It's like Slaying weapons, but Slaying weapons weren't introduced through a CYL unit. If they have plans for such a "skill refinery" and aren't saying anything now, people who sacrifice their Celicas for DB4 will likely be pissed when it's announced later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hopefully they change the inheritance skill limit to four, if nothing else so in future I'll be able to pass Spur Atk 1-3 plus Reposition at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Othin said: It's like Slaying weapons, but Slaying weapons weren't introduced through a CYL unit. If they have plans for such a "skill refinery" and aren't saying anything now, people who sacrifice their Celicas for DB4 will likely be pissed when it's announced later. Slaying weapons (Nephenee, September 2017) where introduced before weapon refinery (Version 2.0, November 2017?), so perhaps there is a similarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlyle Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I'm thinking that Lv.4 skills might be a rare addition for popular skills, Death Blow was already a good choice for any offensive builds. Brazen skills already replaced Defiant skills, I don't see them being a future addition, but surprise me IntSys. Maybe Legendary units get some of these powercreep skills. Although I'm not sure which popular skills would make good Lv.4 skills yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I like the idea of a skill refinery, but it'd kind of suck if I cannibalized Celica only for it to turn out to be useless a week later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 No one was compensated after they sacrificed their Saber/Nephenee/Amelia either though, so obviously IS don't care about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Glennstavos said: I think it will be inheritable given how her B skill certainly won't. Hey it's either this or 6 star rarity characters. Bring on the power creep. It's a Brave new world we live in. fuck your new world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 We will probably not receive a Tier 4 of each skill... we took 7 months to have access to the 4 smoke skills (still waiting for panic smoke), so I believe will take a while to have access to all Lv 4 blow skills. I don't believe we will see LaD 4, Fury 4, Vantage 4, Desperation 4, Tier 4 of Fighter Skills... I can see 1 stat Blows , 1 stat Stances and seals to receive Tier 4 versions. This is not the end of the world... it's just IS don't having original ideas for skills and decide to refine old skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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