Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Corrobin said: Sorry, I'm up. Misread last night, so I made a bad decision. I'll retract my vote until I can get a handle on everyone. ##unvote Couple of questions: - Why did you vote Shinori initially? What did you misread? - Why did you choose not to share the reasoning at the time? - You're trying to get a handle on everyone, how far are you currently? I'm kind of sad Bart didn't have anything to say to Corrobin tbh, considering he had just voted him 2 minutes before. Also I'm sad the specialist on reading me has no Take on me at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Killthestory said: trash post ##vote Bartozio I was thinking something similar, it was mostly him asking like 3 people what their reads were. But then again, it's Bart so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I'm feeling a v on Athena.I don't think scum!Athena opens with a vote on a guy who hasn't posted, when he can open with a vote on some people in the spotlight to gather more thread presence and +ev. @fairyjigglypuff My post @ alette was to start some real-time interaction since I hear she plays at a place where mafia is played more real-timeish than post by post. I think your case on alette is logically sound, however I'm not feeling it because I've seen her play like this as town in a previous game and she feels like a very... tonal/intuitive player? Over a logical one, fi you get my feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup a Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 lol I didn't even notice Corrobin unvoting@Corrobin what were you going to say about Shinori regardless if you don't agree with it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 @weinerboy How're those v reads coming along? How do you feel about Shinori presently? I felt like his entrance to the thread felt very much like a v, the way he just kinda came in, voting and stating opinions in a DGAF attitude, no signs of defensiveness and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killthestory Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Athena_57 said: I was thinking something similar, it was mostly him asking like 3 people what their reads were. But then again, it's Bart so... whats that supposed to mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Killthestory said: trash post ##vote Bartozio ....Okay what? So your response to me asking you to clarify your reads is voting me? Are you for real here? Can you explain how my post is scummy in any way? This is a sad way to push random lynches, even for Kill. ##Vote: KTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Killthestory said: whats that supposed to mean Bartozio gets mislynched almost every game over things similar to this. 3 minutes ago, Bartozio said: ....Okay what? So your response to me asking you to clarify your reads is voting me? Are you for real here? Can you explain how my post is scummy in any way? This is a sad way to push random lynches, even for Kill. ##Vote: KTS This is actually bad though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killthestory Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Bartozio said: ....Okay what? So your response to me asking you to clarify your reads is voting me? Are you for real here? Can you explain how my post is scummy in any way? This is a sad way to push random lynches, even for Kill. ##Vote: KTS wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup a Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Magnificence Incarnate said: @weinerboy How're those v reads coming along? How do you feel about Shinori presently? I felt like his entrance to the thread felt very much like a v, the way he just kinda came in, voting and stating opinions in a DGAF attitude, no signs of defensiveness and shit. Not many v reads outside of what I've stated, feeling Orihime replace out was one that came from town also. Shinori is still ???? to me and I'm especially interested in what Alette says about him eventually, as in my head I don't feel like they're partners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 @Bartozio Based on your experience with KTS, regardless of whether it's bad play / annoying, do you feel his vote on you is actually alignment indicative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killthestory Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Athena_57 said: @Bartozio Based on your experience with KTS, regardless of whether it's bad play / annoying, do you feel his vote on you is actually alignment indicative? how dare you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Killthestory said: how dare you Don't disrupt my good cop act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Athena_57 said: I'm kind of sad Bart didn't have anything to say to Corrobin tbh, considering he had just voted him 2 minutes before. Also I'm sad the specialist on reading me has no Take on me at all Saying he missread was the easiest answer he could give to my questioning, so I was planning to keep my vote there to keep the pressure up a little. I'm way too lazy to mention everything I just don't care about, sorry man. On you, your content reads pretty safe, which is scummy, because it's what you always do as scum. Several comments like this one are giving me pause though, because I don't think you'd try to attract more attention to yourself as scum. Basicly, I was hoping to get a clearer view after a few more interactions (partly so I don't waste my perfect read record). 13 minutes ago, Magnificence Incarnate said: I'm feeling a v on Athena.I don't think scum!Athena opens with a vote on a guy who hasn't posted, when he can open with a vote on some people in the spotlight to gather more thread presence and +ev. I'm pretty sure he did that in both his scum games though... 1 minute ago, Athena_57 said: @Bartozio Based on your experience with KTS, regardless of whether it's bad play / annoying, do you feel his vote on you is actually alignment indicative? His lack of explanation isn't anything unusual (as in NAI) and just annoying. Him getting overly deffensive (which is how I read his vote on me) is scummy, yes. It reminds me of idnsfmm, where he won by just bashing everyone slightly suspecting him (and not doing anything else). In town games, I feel like his logic is a lot more visible, it's just unexplained (as in, I can at least somewhat get why he's coming to certain conclusions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 How was his vote on you defensive? You called him towny iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Like, so far KTS's posts were: him: Hey guys Boron is scum! I also have other wolves figured out! me: Why and who? him: Hey guys, Bart is scum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Athena_57 said: How was his vote on you defensive? You called him towny iirc I was being sarcastic about him saying he had already found 3 wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bartozio said: Like, so far KTS's posts were: him: Hey guys Boron is scum! I also have other wolves figured out! me: Why and who? him: Hey guys, Bart is scum! 1 hour ago, Bartozio said: @Killthestory Nice, seems like you really are worthy of being a hero! ...Why's Boron scum though? And who are these buddies then? I don't see this as threatening in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athena_57 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bartozio said: I was being sarcastic about him saying he had already found 3 wolves. I still don't think his vote was him getting defensive over you poking him for reasons at all. In fact, I interpreted his post as bait for someone asking for his reasons+other reads. Gotta go now, but I super disagree on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥YOLOSWAG🔥 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 ##Vote: Boron We out here. People who can live: Kill, Via, FJP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥YOLOSWAG🔥 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Bartozio said: Ha, town might seem in a pinch after being invaded by wolves and this subbing mess, but it's all right now! Why you ask? BECAUSE I AM HERE! Alette seems to be sitting on the sidelines a bit too much imo, intend on commenting from the sidelines instead of getting his hands dirty. @Alette is there anyone you're suspisious of right now? I feel Omega has only really been making joke posts, without anything gamerelevant (Okay, I guess picking on Claire became gamerelevant but still) so: @Omega., any thoughts on the game so far? Who are you currently suspecting? I agree with Marth on not liking Corobins vote. I liked the initiative it showed, but the way he backed out after being asked about it was bad. @Corrobin I'm pretty sure most people were fine with Shinori, what did you mean with "Wisdom of crowds"? ##Vote: Corrobin I'm uhm... just going to leave the Claire thing alone until that figures itself out I guess... @Killthestory Nice, seems like you really are worthy of being a hero! ...Why's Boron scum though? And who are these buddies then? Lol. What's your opinion of Marth, weiner, and Radicate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alette Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 hours ago, fairyjigglypuff said: ok hai gaizzzz first thing's first i'll eat your brains i've seen the term "flip" thrown around here a few times; can someone clarify what people mean by that? I'm new to SF maf and in my homesite (showdown) people usually use the term "flip" to mean the role reveal upon a player's death, and the way it's used here seems like it means something else. anyways, I'll comment on some of the stuff's that's happened so far i guess I see corrobin's vote on shinori as pretty NAI, like most others have said so far. just seems like someone who just wanted to place a lynch somewhere. not that it makes corrobin town or anything. the shinori/supa interaction thingy or whatever - i honestly don't think scumpartners would go so far as coordinate an "interaction" to make themselves look supposedly townier within like the first few hours of the game, esp when the content i saw was (at least imo) meaningless. marthy made a good point here: i think it's safe to think that interaction is NAI. this point has been mentioned a lot i know; just trying to voice my opinion on it before it's like a completely moot point. that being said, this was really weird. why take an entire post in the middle of a serious discussion to make an interaction with another player and talk about something completely unrelated to game? the placement of this felt really weird and fabricated to me; i wanna know if anyone else feels the same this matters cuz i SR alette. first is when asked by shinori (? idr) if they were scum or not: you could've just said no, but why add the unnecessary stuff? I don't understand what you were trying to accomplish here. it seems like alette felt the need to explain themselves more than just a flat out "no", which doesn't really make sense to me if they were just town, esp considering this happened like a few hours into day 1. then, when corrobin lynched shinori: this reaction looks and sounds so fake. via's reaction (immediately lynching corrobin) comes off as much more genuine and natural to me; this post just makes it seem like Alette's trying to take the mediator position amongst town and direct the conversation in a way that a) controls the game in her favor and b) spreads doubt towards players she wants to target. in other words, i see this as alette deliberately trying to look towny and trying to seem unbiased/neutral on a matter that should've elicited a more charged response. I read this post as an attempt to redirect attention and suspicion toward corrobin, especially since this occurred as other people came in and voiced their opinion in defense of corrobin. I feel like if Alette genuinely scumread corrobin, they would a) lynch, which they didnt do, and b) made more direct accusation points rather than say in a roundabout way "newb scum can act the way corrobin did too, so don't discount them as a scum candidate" the fact that all of these things happened within the span of like a few hours makes it seem like this is no coincidence, so in conclusion, ##vote alette also light SR on marthy for that weird interaction with alette as mentioned earlier, but that could be NAI for all i know. I'm not a fan of just voting someone with decent reasons on what they said. I asked him those questions to see his thought process to see if it's townie or wolfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alette Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I'll be back later today as I'm out and about right now. Also class soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartozio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Athena_57 said: I still don't think his vote was him getting defensive over you poking him for reasons at all. In fact, I interpreted his post as bait for someone asking for his reasons+other reads. Gotta go now, but I super disagree on this. You're saying that after last game you really don't see KTS hard BS'ing his way through stuff? If his post was bait, how does the response make sense to you? How does someone asking him for reasons equate to a scumread? Please explain, because I'm really not following you here... 12 minutes ago, Omega. said: Lol. What's your opinion of Marth, weiner, and Radicate? Null on Rad. I liked Marth's opening and his overal play is what I expect from town him. Townlean here. I don't really know weiner much, but although he doesn't take center stage too much, he seems to be forming opinions at a good rate. Another town lean. Your opinions on them then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flee Fleet! Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Helloooo~ I was occupied recently, but here I am now! Gonna catch up on what's happened so far, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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