Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Uh, I don't know, got Kliff in Heroes so felt like celebrating with a DRAFT. Come join me in the instantaneous regret of life choices. Drafting 1. This draft is for 3 players. 2. Alm, Celica, Silque, and Mycen are free for all. 3. The game will be played on Hard Mode. Rules 1. Undrafted units can only move and trade items, 4 turn penalty. 2. Every overworld map must be completed; you may do fights/collect treasure one time per dungeon room (no staff/grind abuse) 3. You may fight skirmishes/extra dungeon fights (not farm silver) with just undrafted units deployed and Alm/Celica not fighting. 4. Any unit that levels up in a skirmish has an additional 4 turn penalty just for deployment. 5. Random drops and drops from extracurricular fights banned. 6. No doing extra fights for quests, even if it's the first time that fight becomes available. 7. Forging and sub-quests are allowed; all DLC is banned. 8. Game ends when Duma dies. 9. You can only get one of Sonya or Deen Units: Spoiler All Gone! Players: Carmine: Kliff, Saber, Python, Atlas, Est, Lukas, Genny, Delthea, VALBAR, Conrad: 167 Turns Joe Cool: Mae, Faye, Sonya, Catria, Mathilda, Boey, Forsythe, Jesse, Tatiana, Nomah Horace: Tobin, Gray, Leon, Palla, Kamui, Clive, Clair, Luthier, Zeke, Deen: 165 Turns Edited November 5, 2018 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I totally want to ghost this draft. just put me in for the fun of the process. I'm not going to even attempt LTC or nogrinding fe15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 in getting kliff in the draft is easier than getting him in heroes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Wow such variation. Kliff even though Gray is probably better. @Joe Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Saber and PYTHON. @Thokk Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 NO I'M SO SALTY. Fine then, time for cosmo brain strats. ATLAS and EST. @Thokk Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Mathilda cosmo brain time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Lukas and Genny. @Thokk Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Carmine Sword said: Lukas and Genny. @Thokk Patrol Forsythe :bigbrain: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Delthea and VALBAR. :balance: @Thokk Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Hey y'all it's time for some PROGRESS. Village Brigands: 2/2 Kliff got A KILL. Forest Brigands: 4/6 Kliff needed to proc speed here to double the brigands to kill everything on time but it wasn't that bad. Thief Shrine: Fed most of the Brigand boss fight to Lukas so he could reach level 7 and promote to THWOMP. Kliff promoted to Merc. Fed the dungeon fights to Silque who also got 2 Speed wells. Alm chipped his way to a level. Merc on a Mountain: 5/11 Knight!Lukas is amazing here because he ORKOs most of the Brigands, and thanks to a speed proc he can double the boss and bring him down into range for Kliff to easilly finish him off. Silque needs to hit the evil Merc man like every time at 59 hit which was awful, good thing we have DA TURNWHEEL. In a Fort: 7/18 Yeah this takes forever if you don't have two ranged units. Silque got fed almost the entire map. She's 1 exp away from warp lol. Lightning Sword I: 3/21 Yep. Lightning Sword II: Electric Boogaloo: 5/26 Warped Kliff up then warped Lukas later. Gave the bosskill to Alm cause Kliff hit level 7 mid chapter. Deliverance Hideout: Promoted Kliff. Got Python to level 7 and promote him too. Fed the rest of the fights to Silque for more warp range. Gave Silque all of the attack wells. Lukas learned Swap. Doombot Desaix: 8/34 Probably could have done it a turn faster but fuck these hitrates man. Kliff got 2 strength too so screw redoing this lol. Warped up Kliff and then Alm. Lukas and Python made their way up by foot. STATS: Alm Lv. 8.53 Fighter 34HP/14Str/12Skl/10Spd/10Lck/8Def/4Res Lukas Lv. 7/6.27 Thwomp 39HP/17Str/8Skl/6Spd/3Lck/16Def/3Res Kliff Lv. 3/7/5.44 Myrmidon 32HP/13Str/14Skl/17Spd/12Lck/7Def/8Res Silque Lv. 10.74 Cleric 21HP/18Mgc/8Skl/8Spd/9Lck/2Def/11Res Python Lv. 7/2.33 Sniper 30HP/12Str/6Skl/8Spd/4Lck/6Def/4Res Novis Graveyard: 5/39 Gave Celica 2 strength wells and 1 speed well. Genny uh, killed two guys! I'm on a Boat I: 4/43 Pretty good.wav. I'm on a Boat II: 6/49 Not having Mae really sucked here. YO HO HO: 6/55 Celica didn't know Thunder yet so it took forever to reach the boss. Genny got Invoke. Fuck This Boss: 5/60 Somehow didn't actually take forever to do. Saber and Celica managed to kill him. Valbar fed mooks to Genny. DRAGURNS: 4/64 Celica has proced like no speed so she couldn't double the dragons and I was to lazy too rig a crit on the second one to save a turn. Sea Shrine: Skipped all the enemies since I need to feed them to Atlas. Just promoted Saber and got the Blessed Sword. I'm on a Boat III: 4/68 Celica could ORKO the brigands with a Steel Sword and Saber could double the mercs so this wasn't too bad. VALBAR killed an archer since he could actually double it lol. I'm on a Boat IV: 5/73 Valbar killed the boss with a jank crit, which I decided to keep because it's Valbar and it's hilarious. He got like an entire level out of it too. Conrad: 3/76 We did it guys. STATS: Celica Lv. 10.20 Priestess 21HP/15Mgc/13Skl/11Spd/14Lck/7Def/7Res Genny Lv. 7.98 Cleric 19HP/11Mgc/5Skl/9Spd/9Lck/1Def/14Res Saber Lv. 7/3.74 Myrmidon 31HP/13Str/12Skl/15Spd/6Lck/9Def/6Res VALBAR Lv. 3.17 Thwomp 32HP/16Str/6Skl/2Spd/2Lck/13Def/0Res Edited October 27, 2018 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) MAP 1 - 2/2 TURNS Carmine totally RIGGED and Alm crit.  MAP 2 - 4/6 TURNS zzz. Grey Merc Tobin Archer.MAP 3 - 5/11 TURNS SILCC killed the merc. Everyone else had stuff mopped up by turn 4.MAP 4 - 5/16 TURNS SILCC is THICC but has no magicMAP 5 - 3/19 TURNS zzzMAP 6 - 5/24 turns Lightning sword OP. Shrine - Promoted everyone except Alm and Clair. Silcc got the str statues, forgot to say she got 2 speeds earlier so she wouldn't suck. Clive got the other one.DESAIX - 6/30 turns Grey and Alm did most of the work. Tobin THICC SHOTTED the one annoying soldier in the tower.   UNIT   CLASS       LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS ALM    FIGHTER      09.59 33 14 14 10 10 12 04 GRAY   MYRMIDON  08/08/02.93 31 14 12 14 06 07 02 TOBIN   SNIPER   06/07/02.31 30 12 11 06 08 07 04 SILCC   SAINT     12/01.26 30 14 07 10 10 05 12 CLAIR   PEGASUS      07.95 23 11 05 11 14 05 08 CLIVE   PALADIN    07/01.69 28 12 07 09 06 08 01 Carmine totally rigged magic :cain: Edited October 31, 2018 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Palla & Catria: 4/80 VALBAR actually did stuff here, 2HKOing the brigands with the Steel Lance. Genny's invoked soldiers killed a bunch of hald-dead brigands that were trying to run away. Genny fought the guy coming from the bottom right corner. She had to deliberately miss Nosferatu once against him so he wouldn't run away so the invoked soldiers could finish him off. EDIT: Hey you know that part where I let Leon died and I thought I could get away with it because I didn't draft him? Well he has the only bow on Celica's side until after beating the Cancer Archer Fort, and I kind of need a Bow to beat that map without losing a million turns, so I have to restart the entire run now. GG. Edited October 27, 2018 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) ZOMBIES - 5/5 TURNS Celica got a rigged level.  WORTH IT.  Went with +1 str +2 speed at the statues. PIRATES 1 - 7/12 TURNS Turns out Celica was a mistake PIRATES 2 - 9/21 TURNS MISTAKES WERE MADE PIRATE BOSSGUY - 7/28 TURNS SO MANY MISTAKES CANTOR - 5/33 TURNS Kamui got the bosskill DRACOZOMBIES - 3/36 TURNS Leon got luck only Did the shrine up to Mila statue, saving rest for later PIRATES 3 - 3/39 TURNS The archers have big brains and attack Leon at all costs PIRATES 4 - 4/43 TURNS Leon is pretty great here. Conrad - 3/46 TURNS Conrad got a crit! Celica easily handled the boss. UNIT   CLASS       LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS ALM    FIGHTER      09.59 33 14 14 10 10 12 04 GRAY   MYRMIDON  08/08/02.93 31 14 12 14 06 07 02 TOBIN   SNIPER   06/07/02.31 30 12 11 06 08 07 04 SILCC   SAINT     12/01.26 30 14 07 10 10 05 12 CLAIR   PEGASUS      07.95 23 11 05 11 14 05 08 CLIVE   PALADIN    07/01.69 28 12 07 09 06 08 01 ==================================================== CELICA  PRIESTESS     12.38 24 16 13 12 12 11 08 LEON   SNIPER     07/03.90 31 13 08 07 06 07 01 KAMUI  MYRMIDON    07/03.31 31 12 12 15 02 07 02 30+46/76 TURNS  PALLA/CATRIA - 4/4 turns My team was good here.  Celica solo'd the bottom and Kamui/Leon with the pegasi got the top. Went back and finished seabound shrine and promoted Palla. ZOMBIES1 - 2/6 TURNS We do this one twice right? CANCER ARCHER FORT - 8/14 TURNS was extra awful with a skirmish on top of it, but worth for the exp in the long run i think.  Forged a +3 iron bow for Leon so he'd still double with some power and accuracy, it was pretty good.  Sonya - 4/18 TURNS Palla killed ~4 dudes on turn 1, then her and Leon cleaned up.  Palla ate the cheese so she could bait Sonya without getting doubled.  Gave Leon the Golden Apple and went back and promoted him.  My undrafted chumps had to win an encounter which was pretty scary for them. Forged him a killer bow mostly by selling his old Iron bow.  GRIETH - 7/25 TURNS Leon even with 6 AS doubles most of the map, lol.  Kamui killed Grieth after Palla baited him.  Palla ORKO'd the enemies on the side which was nice.  VALLEY APPROACH - 3/28 TURNS No joke, a Cantor skirmish spawned and saved a turn because the archer and witch suicided on Palla at 1 Range.  Needed an extra turn to kill the bossguy.  Palla ate another cheese.  DRAGON SHRINE - got deen exp to promote. TEMPLE OF MILA - 5/33 TURNS Palla opened the door on turn 2, and the rest was pretty easy.76+33/109 TURNS  UNIT   CLASS        LEVEL HP ST SK SP LC DF RS ALM    FIGHTER       09.59 33 14 14 10 10 12 04 GRAY   MYRMIDON    08/08/02.93 31 14 12 14 06 07 02 TOBIN   SNIPER     06/07/02.31 30 12 11 06 08 07 04 SILCC   SAINT       12/01.26 30 14 07 10 10 05 12 CLAIR   PEGASUS       07.95 23 11 05 11 14 05 08 CLIVE   PALADIN      07/01.69 28 12 07 09 06 08 01 ==================================================== CELICA  PRINCESS      16/01.05 32 20 15 14 14 13 08 LEON   BOWKNIGHT    07/10/06.74 43 17 16 12 13 10 01 KAMUI  MYRMIDON    07/10/04.89 37 16 16 19 06 12 02 PALLA  FALCOKNIGHT    12/07.87 40 17 16 19 05 11 08 DEEN   DREADFIGHTER    05/02.99 37 17 19 19 06 12 04  Edited October 31, 2018 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) I like how Deen is just better than Kamui. Act I... again: 32/32 Got the same turncount on every map except Zofia Castle, where I saved 2 TURNS due to Kliff being super thicc this time, letting him kill nearly dead cavs to prevent them from running away instead of Kliff having to spend turns healing himself like last time. Also got Silque promoted before Zofia Castle this time with gratuitous heal spam and feeding her most of the Deliverance Hideout. Python still reached promotion but just barely this time due to prioritizing Silque instead. Level ups on every were generally better than before, mostly concerning Kliff's now existent defense stat. STATS: Alm Lv. 8.89 Fighter 32HP/14Str.13Skl/12Spd/9Lck/9Def/4Res Lukas Lv. 7/6.11 Thwomp 36HP/18Str/9Skl/6Spd/3Lck/14Def/2Res Kliff Lv. 3/7/5.94 Myrmidon 30HP/12Str/13Skl/17Spd/13Lck/12Def/8Res Silque Lv. 12/1.12 Saint 30HP/18Mgc/7Skl/9Spd/11Lck/5Def/12Res Python Lv. 7/2.45 Sniper 30HP/13Str/7Skl/7Spd/5Lck/7Def/4Res Also @General Horace the zombie fight outside Atlas' village only counts once, so you can take 2 turns off your total turncount. Also your turncount is off by 1 because in Act 1 you counted map 4 as 2 turns instead of 3. Novis Graveyard: 5/37 Boat I: 4/41 Boat II: 6/47 YO HO HO: 5/52 Cantor: 5/57 Dragons: 3/60 Boat III: 3/63 Celica could double and ORKO the mercs this time which saved a turn. Tried to feed the boss to Valbar but he was 2 HP short of killing him due to lances not existing on Celica route. Boat IV: 4/67 Valbar didn't get the bosskill this time sadly, but he did get 3 generic Arcanist kills so he actually ended up with more exp than before. Conrad: 3/70 :pepohype: STATS: Celica Lv. 10.38 Priestess 23HP/16Mgc/13Skl/16Spd/13Lck/7Def/8Res Genny Lv. 7.33 Cleric 21HP/12Mgc/7Skl/6Spd/10Lck/3Def/14Res Saber Lv. 7/4.22 Myrmidon 32HP/12Str/15Skl/16Spd/10Lck/9Def/6Res VALBAR Lv. 3.60 Thwomp 31HP/16Str/6Skl/2Spd/2Lck/13Def/0Res Palla & Catria: 4/74 Zombones: 3/77 Cancer Archer Fort: 7/84 Sonya: 4/88 Fear the amazing ARCHER ATLAS. Grieth: 8/97 Valbar killed the Myrm at the bottom of the map and got SPEED, Celica went left, everyone else went right. Atlas murdered almost everything by himself with the Killer Bow. After the map, gave Atlas the 2nd Pegasus Cheese, promoted him, and also got Deen to Dread Fighter to kill skirmishes for me. Got the amazing Est :weary:. Polnareff: 3/100 Dragon Shrine: Got Est to level 10, Valbar to level 9, and got Genny and Saber promoted. Went back to the Sea Shrine and gave the exp wells to Est to promote her, then gave Valbar the Golden Apple to promote him. Mila's Temple: 5/105 I could have done it in 4 turns if Atlas dodged more Arcanists, but I didn't feel like wasting too much time trying to get that to happen. STATS: Celica Lv. 15/1.00 Princess 32HP/17Mgc/17Skl/20Spd/14Lck/10Def/8Res Genny Lv. 12/2.08 Saint 30HP/16Mgc/10Skl/9Spd/14Lck/5Def/15Res Saber Lv. 7/10/3.18 Dread Fighter 37HP/17Str/18Skl/18Spd/13Lck/13Def/6Res VALBAR Lv. 10/1.02 Bigger Thwomp 40HP/22Str/10Skl/8Spd/5Lck/19Def/0Res Atlas Lv. 10/7/10/4.81 Bow Knight 41Hp/23Str/14Skl/13Spd/10Lck/14Def/6Res Est Lv. 12/1.22 Falcon Knight 36HP/13Str/12Skl/15Spd/10Lck/10Def/13Res Fernand: 4/109 Arcanist Hell: 5/114 Berkut: 1/115 Desaix: 4/119 Sylvan Shrine: Gave Python 3 exp wells. Promoted everyone. Lukas learned shove. Cav Spam: 2/121 Bow Spam: 2/123 PYTHON TIME Delthea: 3/126 2 turn is theoretically possible but fuck having Python dodge all those Deaths to make that happen. This way there's no chance of death for anyone, Python just needs to crit with Hunter's Volley at like 50 crit so it's not too bad. STATS: Alm Lv. 12.51 Fighter 34HP/15Str/14Skl/12Spd/10Lck/12Def/4Res Lukas Lv. 7/10/1.44 Bigger Thwomp 40HP/22Str/10Skl/6Spd/5Lck/18Def/2Res Kliff Lv. 3/7/10/3.89 Dread Fighter 37HP/17Str/18Skl/24Spd/14Lck/15Def/10Res Silque Lv. 12/5.08 Saint 31HP/19Mgc/9Skl/10Spd/15Lck/6Def/12Res Python Lv. 7/10/4.92 Bow Knight 41HP/18Str/12Skl/14Spd/7Lck/12Def/4Res Delthea Lv. 3.00 Mage Base Swampy Swamps of Swampiness: 4/130 Dragon Graveyard: 1/131 Purple Dragon Mountain: 5/136 Gave the exp wells in Mila's Temple to Conrad. Lost Woods: Got Conrad to promotion since it lets him ORKO Witches in the next map with a javelin. Fed the rest of the map to Saber so he could learn ROUNDHOUSE. Duma's Gate: 5/141 Conrad, Celica, and VALBAR killed Witches outside, Saber, Est, and Atlas dealt with stuff inside. Genny healed Atlas a bunch. ROUNDHOUSE: 2/143 Featuring my biggest brain strat yet: Letting Conrad fucking die. Yes, this has to happen because Genny can't heal him on Turn 2 since she needs to kill a demon thwomp using the Mage Ring. So Conrad and Atlas attack Jedah on Turn 1, Genny and Est each kill a thwomp (Genny got shoved by Valbar into range), Celica moved up. Turn 2, Atlas has to kill an eyeball in front of Jedah so Saber can reach him, so Conrad has to get sacked to get the third hit in on Jedah. Saber ROUNDHOUSES Jedah in the face, and then Celica and Genny finish off the last two demon thwomps. Don't worry though, I went back to the Dragon Shrine and revived Conrad for the tower. Legion of Duma: Sent Alm the Killer Bow, Mage Ring, and Dracoshield. Got Conrad and Celica to learn Shove. STATS: Celica Lv. 15/8.75 Priestess 34HP/21Mgc/19Skl/21Spd/17Lck/14Def/8Res Genny Lv. 12/8.05 Saint 30HP/17Mgc/12Skl/13Spd/16Lck/5Def/15Res Saber Lv. 7/10/12.62 Dread Fighter 42HP/21Str/20Skl/23Spd/15Lck/16Def/6Res VALBAR Lv. 10/2.91 Bigger Thwomp 41HP/23Str/11Skl/9Spd/5Lck/20Def/0Res Atlas Lv. 10/7/10/10.18 Bow Knight 45HP/26Str/17Skl/14Spd/13Lck/15Def/6Res Est Lv. 12/9.31 Falcon Knight 40HP/22Str/18Skl/21Spd/19Lck/21Def/14Res Conrad Lv. 10/4.81 Gold Knight 42HP/20Str/22Skl/18Spd/12Lck/14Def/12Res Berkut Again: 4/147 Promoted Alm. Warped Python up to kill Berkut since Kliff gets too held up by all the javelin guys getting in his way. Warped Alm over to the left turn 2 to help Lukas and Delthea kill the thwomps. Kliff killed the right thwomps and Silque killed the Arcanists. Saizo: 3/150 Had to max out a Brave Sword so Kliff could kill the Dread Fighters sort of reliably. Wasn't too hard besides that. Mountain of Thwomps: 3/153 Uh, yeah, Python OP. Python murdered everything on the right while Kliff and Alm got warped up to kill those guys. Nuibaba: 3/156 Featuring AI shenanigans.exe. Warped Python in range of the Bow Knight turn one to get him out of the way, then warped Kliff up Turn 2 to kill the Arcanist above Nuibaba. Since Kliff is the only unit in her range, she attacks him at 1 range and get's blown up by a Brave Sword crit. All the Dread Fighters get blown up by Brave Sword crits too. Silqu then warps Python up and he crits the Cantor. Kliff kills an Arcanist, and the other two Arcanists suicide on Python on enemy phase, him needing to dodge one. Edited October 30, 2018 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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