Lewyn Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Nanima said: I swear there is just no pleasing some people. I am rather sick of being regaled with tales of how people will quit the game as if it's some kind of grand statement against capitalism or whatever. You don't like the way things are in the game right now? Good for you, I don't much either in many areas (arena esp.). But it feels like it's become fashionable to exaggerate the flaws and moan about it all day. Maybe the next direct will fix some things. Maybe it won't. Maybe it will make it worse. But can we stop it with this doom and gloom athmosphere when it's not even out yet? Being always pessimistic might save you from the huge disappointments, but it ultimately just leaves you miserable for the most part. Put me down as another that strongly approves of this comment. I'm sick of all this talk "Is Heroes dying!" Yeah, no. Someone already posted how the playerbase and revenue is constantly pointing upward with no decline or lull or plateau. Also this is the wrong place for grand statements, this is about what we expect/hope for the channel. Oh and if you want IS to notice how unhappy you are with the game to the point of even quitting perhaps, then send it as feedback ingame. I expect 3.0 trailer, cause how much longer can they go without story quests? Farfetched 2 is done, so this new hero banner is going to have a story chapter like every other. Which means book 3 must come. I also think we'll maybe get update on beast units, if we are getting a free legendary hero for book 3 it will be announced here, some improvements to modes, and maybe skill forge. Also about pessimists in general, yeah one expects the worst all the time so is rarely very disappointed. However at the same time they aren't living life. They have no passion for anything, they can't enjoy anything not nearly to the degree that people who aren't pessimists or who are optimists can. It is a safe way to live but I wouldn't call it living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Since it doesn't seem to be 3.0 news, I do wonder what they'll cover besides the new weapons and banner. They must feel like they had something worthy of a stream, but I think they'd keep any new modes and such for Book III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, Thane said: Since it doesn't seem to be 3.0 news, I do wonder what they'll cover besides the new weapons and banner. They must feel like they had something worthy of a stream, but I think they'd keep any new modes and such for Book III. Even if 3.0 isn't imminent, this FEH channel could be when they tell us the expected launch date is. Or this could have an announcement of the real 3.0 channel. A teaser for a teaser, if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 hours ago, TheWill said: They are relevant to the topic of an upcoming FEH channel, because most players actually hope these issues (especially in regards to lack of content) are fixed with the upcoming FEH channel. Just as they have for what... the past three FEH Channels? As for the whole "soapboxing quitting"... As I said, it's unnecessary, but it's absolutely not a big deal. People have legitimate complaints about the game and feel that these issues makes them want to quit. This is becoming a more common opinion and people have every right to express this. What kind of hivemind logic is this? People shouldn't complain about the state of the game because "negativity"...? Seriously?? These people aren't talking about their hopes, though. If you want to quit, quit. If you want attention, go start a blog or a Youtube channel. I, too, have a right to express this. I never said people shouldn't complain. There literally is a thread called "The State of Heroes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gone Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lewyn said: Also this is the wrong place for grand statements, this is about what we expect/hope for the channel. That's obviously not what the topic title indicates. 2 hours ago, Lewyn said: Oh and if you want IS to notice how unhappy you are with the game to the point of even quitting perhaps, then send it as feedback ingame. I would go even further and recommend quitting the game (as I did a year before) as it's far less exhausting than lowering your expectations month by month to enjoy a mediocre at best Fire Emblem game app. During my Heroes period were million reasons for me to complain like every two weeks or so. And then I thought: Well I could do that and let others suffer through my whining all the time or I simply just quit. So I definetaly can see, where people are coming from and I do believe they have the same right to be negative about Heroes (for valid reasons) as you are positive (hats up for that) about it. 2 hours ago, Lewyn said: Also about pessimists in general, yeah one expects the worst all the time so is rarely very disappointed. However at the same time they aren't living life. They have no passion for anything, they can't enjoy anything not nearly to the degree that people who aren't pessimists or who are optimists can. It is a safe way to live but I wouldn't call it living. I've been a pessimist my whole life & I can guarentee you that I do live a splendid life including tears & joy just as any other human being. It protects you from many unpleasent stuff in life & also prevents you from getting offended by the smallest thing that passes you by ;) Edited November 6, 2018 by fOrEiGn sOUl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Lewyn said: I expect 3.0 trailer, cause how much longer can they go without story quests? Farfetched 2 is done, so this new hero banner is going to have a story chapter like every other. Which means book 3 must come. Already forgotten the flame sisters banner? There might be an intermission chapter to introduce a new feature, like with the Weapon Refinery. That said, there wasn't a new banner to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 As for the 13 minutes thing, maybe they got a new VA for Feh, and it's Yahtzee. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 someone said they might do a hero fest what's a hero fest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Dayni Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, daisy jane said: someone said they might do a hero fest what's a hero fest? They were specialised banners with big units at the time. Had one unit of each colour (Like the third Hero Fest had Sigurd, Nephenee, B!Ike and B!Lyn.) and were the first type of banners to have boosts to the initial summoning rate. There hasn't been any since that February one I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Dayni said: They were specialised banners with big units at the time. Had one unit of each colour (Like the third Hero Fest had Sigurd, Nephenee, B!Ike and B!Lyn.) and were the first type of banners to have boosts to the initial summoning rate. There hasn't been any since that February one I mentioned. ah gotcha. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, daisy jane said: someone said they might do a hero fest what's a hero fest? A recurring banner with a 5% focus rate, that's also permanently available to new players. There's no set schedule for when they happen, but the last one was in February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiddo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm pretty sure Legendary Banners have replaced Hero Fests. I got no hopes for ever seeing one again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWill Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Baldrick said: These people aren't talking about their hopes, though. They literally are talking about their hopes. The first (and only, for that matter) post that talked about quitting -- which was the same post that spurred the following rant by Namina -- explicitly stated: "but hopefully at least it'll be something to show they're heading in the right direction and who knows how I'll be feeling six, twelve months from now." Although they're doubtful, they clearly hope that the FEH Channel will recapture their interest in the game. If not now, potentially in the future. 4 hours ago, Baldrick said: If you want to quit, quit. If you want attention, go start a blog or a Youtube channel. I, too, have a right to express this. Expressing your disappointment towards the game is not synonymous with "looking for attention". That's a very primitive way of thinking. People are complaining because... they're rightfully upset. What does attention have to do with that? Either way, this is a public forum, not a safespace echo chamber. Yes, they can start a blog or Youtube channel to express their thoughts... or they can just post here in a public forum because that's completely within reason? Edited November 7, 2018 by TheWill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafiel's Aria Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm honestly not sure what could possibly be in this FEH channel. Book 3 was my top choice, but that info from the Spanish version knocks that idea out of the running. I think FEH is desperately in need of a new mode. For me, their last few attempts have been...lackluster, and I just don't enjoy them. Forging Bonds has been my favorite out of everything introduced because we at least get some character interaction between the grinding. But I'd like to see something other than RNG based team battles and inflated stats. Some things that might make this FEH channel worth the hype: -Combat Manual Shop - It'd be cool to see another kind of currency added that allows you to buy combat manuals to use for SI or merges. They could vary from week or week...maybe sometimes there will be sales. This would be a super nice. -Guilds (or something similar) - Really just something where players can band together for a mode. If they're going to have co-op, it'd be nice to have a choice in who you play with. I feel like I'd enjoy Grand Conquest a lot more if I knew who I was playing with and we could communicate. I'm expecting a trailer announcement for the next banner at least. Maybe they'll cover the new weapon refinements, but those two things are hardly worth a livestream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWill Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Lewyn said: I'm sick of all this talk "Is Heroes dying!" Yeah, no. Someone already posted how the playerbase and revenue is constantly pointing upward with no decline or lull or plateau. Also this is the wrong place for grand statements, this is about what we expect/hope for the channel. Oh and if you want IS to notice how unhappy you are with the game to the point of even quitting perhaps, then send it as feedback ingame. Literally no one has claimed that in this entire thread. If you're going to chime in on a discussion, it'd be preferable to actually read what other posters are saying, instead of pushing this false narrative that is unrelated to what people are actually complaining about on this topic. The only post that mentioned quitting if the FEH Channel is disappointing (in this thread) had literally discussed their expectations/hopes about the upcoming Channel, so what's the problem with their post again? 6 hours ago, Lewyn said: Also about pessimists in general, yeah one expects the worst all the time so is rarely very disappointed. However at the same time they aren't living life. They have no passion for anything, they can't enjoy anything not nearly to the degree that people who aren't pessimists or who are optimists can. It is a safe way to live but I wouldn't call it living. What the? This is ridiculous. First of all, you're stereotyping an entire group into this narrow-minded perspective. Secondly... you're just completely wrong. A pessimist can be active, can have a happy lifestyle, and they can be a passionate person. And finally... just because you're pessimistic about the upcoming FEH channel doesn't make you a pessimistic person in general. People are pessimistic because the last three (arguably 2, depending on how you view CYL) FEH Channels have not addressed any of the issues within the game people have literally been complaining about for months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lewyn said: Someone already posted how the playerbase and revenue is constantly pointing upward with no decline or lull or plateau. One thing I want to point out because you were just quoted: Are you referring to the financial results briefing (page 19)? That graph is cumulative net sales, i.e. an attempt to make a misleading graph to make yourself look better or hide data. If the graph were to point downward at any point, that wouldn't mean you're losing customers, it would mean you have negative customers. The fact that the graph points upward simply means "customers exist". To see whether sales are increasing or decreasing, you have to look at if the slope of the line is steeper (increasing sales) or shallower (decreasing sales) compared to the previous month, not compared to horizontal (which would indicate zero sales). Edited November 7, 2018 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 With the trailer coming out today, there will be more time to focus on new things. I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Also, fun fact. It’s been found out that the next FeH channel is about version 2.11. Makes sense, considering the next banner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewyn Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Baldrick said: Already forgotten the flame sisters banner? There might be an intermission chapter to introduce a new feature, like with the Weapon Refinery. That said, there wasn't a new banner to go with it. Well we got a new banner and it is a paralogue, meaning book 3 might still be a ways away unfortunately. 6 hours ago, fOrEiGn sOUl said: I've been a pessimist my whole life & I can guarentee you that I do live a splendid life including tears & joy just as any other human being. It protects you from many unpleasent stuff in life & also prevents you from getting offended by the smallest thing that passes you by ;) If you expect the worst always, you don't have the joy of expectation/anticipation which is released when such thing comes true. It is a big difference. When something you expect to go bad or be bad ends up good, it is more being pleasantly surprised. When you expect good things when they come true it is exciting. In addition people who generally look at things and near everything pessimistically are much less likely to take risks and try new things, after all they expect the worst. People who are optimistic expect good things so are much more willing to take risks try different things. 1 hour ago, Ice Dragon said: One thing I want to point out because you were just quoted: Are you referring to the financial results briefing (page 19)? That graph is cumulative net sales, i.e. an attempt to make a misleading graph to make yourself look better or hide data. If the graph were to point downward at any point, that wouldn't mean you're losing customers, it would mean you have negative customers. The fact that the graph points upward simply means "customers exist". To see whether sales are increasing or decreasing, you have to look at if the slope of the line is steeper (increasing sales) or shallower (decreasing sales) compared to the previous month, not compared to horizontal (which would indicate zero sales). I think I saw this on reddit or something. However the line looks pretty steady. It certainly can't fall, since it is cumulitive, but it the rise hasn't gotten any less steep as far as it looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lewyn said: I think I saw this on reddit or something. However the line looks pretty steady. It certainly can't fall, since it is cumulitive, but it the rise hasn't gotten any less steep as far as it looks. I'm pretty sure they're trying to hide the fact that revenue is currently plateauing rather than increasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewyn Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: I'm pretty sure they're trying to hide the fact that revenue is currently plateauing rather than increasing. Well hopefully that means they have big plans for major improvements starting with version 3.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 At least they won't talk about the banner I wouldn't be surprised if Heroes is failing. I've seen a bunch of people get bored with it and moving on to other gachas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayyyaka Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 It's going to be 2.11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Some more Fates and Awakening alts. More power creep. More fan service. More rehashed content. More new underwhelming original characters and new story with lackluster plot. These are my predictions. I'm just keeping my expectations low especially after this train-wreck of a banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowi's Husband Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I'm still hoping for a skill refinery, even though I know they make more money making us pull for DB4, Dual rally+, and future powercreep skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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