Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Rules (Borrowed from whomever made them first with modifications) - Ratings to be assumed from when a unit is first available. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted (unless they fall into the general parameters of the average rating, but reasoning is still strongly encouraged on those even if you just wanna quote people) — incredibly low scores or high scores without proper justification will not be counted. Don't put in some random text thinking it'd count as justification. Put in at least a little thought and give REAL reasoning. - Numbers for votes, please - not something like "Sigurd/10", etc. - Personality / Appearance may be taken into account, but only +/- 1 point at the most. - Votes out of 10, or something proportional to it, please! - Make votes easily visible, please and thank you! - Every ranking phase will end on the next day at approximately 10:00 PM (or 22:00), EST. Units and Ranking (Least to Greatest) Diadora: 1.19 Ardan: 1.39 Azel: 4.63 Jamka: 5.25 Midir: 5.47 Dew: 5.68 Holyn: 5.90 Lachesis: 6.13 Noish: 6.15 Alec: 6.17 Beowulf: 6.40 Aideen: 6.57 Ayra: 6.79 Levin: 7.87 Fin (First Generation): 7.88 Fury: 8.25 Cuan: 8.41 Lex: 8.83 Ethlin: 9.15 Sylvia: 9.50 Sigurd: 9.96 DAY 22: BRIGGID ____ First generation's almost over! Yay! Briggid is the last Holy Weapon user you get in Gen 1 (lolvalkyriestaff), and she's the second person to get a Holy Weapon, assuming Cuan and Ethlin are parked right next to each other as soon as Silvail's captured. She uses Ichival, which gives her some pretty awesome attack power. Briggid has some high Strength plus having a Holy Weapon is awesomesauce. Of course, therein lies the problem. Ichival sucks, and has 2 range. Also, you have to use one of your lowest move units to get it to her. Then there's Briggid's join situation. Locked to 2-range and easily surrounded. Her kids are decent, especially if she sleeps with Holyn, Midir, or Jamka. Pairing her is a pain, though, but I prefer Patty and Faval over Daisy and Assholio any day. Also, no horse. 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I like Briggid. I really do. But she's just not that great. Her kids are pretty mediocre (for second gen standards, that is), and she isn't amazing herself. Passes no skills on to her kids either. However, she is good in chapter 4 due to Pegasus Knights existing, and is tough enough to tangle with Reptor if need be with the Ichival, which again, isn't that great for a holy weapon. She's good statistically, but that doesn't always take the cake. No horse or 1 range hurts. 2+1 bias = 3/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Amongst my favorite in the series. That's not to say Briggid is good, though. She really isn't. Her player phase is effectively "choose 1 unit in range to kill", yeah. But 6 move really doesn't impress, she doesn't have a horse, her EP doesn't happen ever, and getting Ichival can cost turns. That being said, I'm still throwing in a bias point. So 4/10 from me. Edited March 2, 2012 by Dirk Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabarr Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 3/10 Ichval maybe the best bow in FE IMO, but it sucks when compared to the other holies. She is an archer which really harms her because of the locked two range. Her stats are nothing impressive, just very high strength. No horse and getting the Ichval also means increased turn count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Great player phase combat, with almost no chance to use it. Brigid's cool, but her two chapters aren't exactly kind to low move units, so she'll get to fight 2 or 3 fights in each chapter(at least the way I try to use her). Maybe a bit more if you go slowly. :( 2/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 3/10. She's in 2 games, and is decent in both. As Briggid, she's alright But not amazing, due to bow lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I hate getting Aideen to talk to her takes so damn long aaahh But otherwise, yeah what other people said. Decent (and pretty damn good with Ichival) offense and all but rangelock, only 2 chapters left of possible contributions, and no horse. At least no issues clearing arenas either. 4/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Starwind Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Honestly I enjoy her as a unit. Sure she's bow locked but whocares. Only kid who might need help is Patty but whatever. I see no problem with her. 6/10 Fun fact: my first run of FE4 I didn't get Ichival. My game froze and when I reloaded I thought I had it and went to the next chapter. Spoiler: I didn't. Didn't get Holsety either. I didn't know about it. Edited March 2, 2012 by Guy Starwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Patty's really good with Holyn as a father because she can use the Hero Sword--just pairing Briggid is a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Ostrich Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 So, she's like Jamka but two chapters later. That... is actually quite bad. So far I've been reasonably nice to the has-good-offense-and-nothing-else type units, but Briggid comes significantly later than all of them and brings nothing new to make up for it. The scores are only going to get worse from here. 3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Her joining situation does not deserve a penalty or anything, but she just isn't good. A perfect example of why stats don't mean everything. 3/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Great stats and Ichieval is the best bow ever, but being on foot, coming relatively late and being bow locked don't do her many favours. Faval and Patty are useful enough, but getting Ichieval and Faval can be a pain. 4/10, you've gotta love her paranoid lover convo's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I hate getting Aideen to talk to her takes so damn long aaahh I would probably just quote this and give her a 0 but I won't because I'm yes. Fortunately Mekkah did the rest of the work for me. Her joining situation does not deserve a penalty or anything, but she just isn't good. A perfect example of why stats don't mean everything. I'm going to exercise some nega-bias and leave her score at a 2.5/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Existent Member Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 6/10 Great base stats and gets a holy weapon Ichival from her sister Aideen. With the Ichival, she'll have about 60 attack power, taking out most enemies in 1 hit. Pairing her is kinda hard to do. Either Holyn or Dew makes a great father for Patty and Faval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Assuming there's one in range, she kills one person per Player Phase... ...And that's it, in most circumstances. There are a few times where Enemy Phases will prove idiotic and she'll get another kill, but overall she's just a walking single kill dispenser, emphasis on "walking," because she lacks a horse. She'll murder an enemy if there's an enemy to murder, but that does somewhat assume Sigurd and his Horse Friends have left any. Dedicating your holy weapon to mop-up work's not exactly glamorous. Her join time is awful and her availability is not grand; sure, she's gonna murder those pegs in Chapter 4, but so are Midir and Jamka, it's not exactly hard if you've got a good bow (and Killer and Hero, while not Ichival, are plenty good enough). But meanwhile Jamka's been around longer and Midir has a horse. She's a pain in the ass to pair, but in her defense she sets Faval up just fine with a Steel Bow and Ichival; it's all he really needs, other than stats from his dad. It's the dad factor that's the problem. Most dads you'd want will be ones that salvage Patty, who is godawful without some major dad-derived skills since Briggid helpfully passes down fuck and all. But you also want the dad to give Faval decent growths. Pursuit's wasted on Faval since he'll already have it, and Patty will get it, but you have to consider her early game and etc. etc. etc., it's a mess. Overall, Holyn is probably the best choice, and he's a foot unit too so it's not like he has anything better to do. And if you want to pair her with Fin, good luck, but I won't hold this against her because honestly who does that? So... 4.5/10? Comes too late, offense is overkill, not as useful as statistically weaker bow users, and nowhere near as useful as people not locked to bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Sage Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 3/10 Has good base stats, but is bow locked and joins late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's hard to rate Briggid, because she can vary so much depending on how you rate her. In strict LTC for the full game, she's not too amazing and has to be glued to someone (or sit next to Fin for a few turns) in order to produce any kids at all, however, as a unit in Gen 1, she's pretty pro. She has awesome stats, and the Ichival, and comes just in time to slaughter pegs. 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Good stats and has Ichival but has terribad move and jointime. Sux. 3/10 On another note, BeowulfxBriggd is better than BriggdxHolyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Faval doesn't need Pursuit and Patty gets it upon promotion. Beowulf would rather have Lachesis' lady parts instead of Briggid's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 So, she's like Jamka but two chapters later. We'll go with, uh... 3.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Faval doesn't need Pursuit and Patty gets it upon promotion. Beowulf would rather have Lachesis' lady parts instead of Briggid's. Well, that and Patty trades 35% SKL and 25% HP growth for Pursuit before promotion and Charge. I don't think she really wants Charge but there's something to be said for Pursuit at least. It just seems like kind of a waste, overall. But a lot of Briggid pairings are underwhelming for Patty because Briggid gives her almost nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) First, Patty actually has to get to promotion. And Holyn!Patty is pretty terrible before promotion, even with the Hero!Sword. She is not guaranteed to activate Luna and her durability sucks balls along with having foot movement. This combined makes raising Holyn!Patty a chore. The best strategy for Patty in terms of defense is to use a magic sword with a magic ring so she can do ranged stealing and provide some damage but since Holyn!Patty doesn't double, she needs something severely weakened for her to kill it with a magic sword or she's just a bad chipper. Beowulf!Patty on the other hand does allow Patty to double and it makes setting up kills with her a lot easier. Charge can give her a chance for a ORKO in some cases, so the magic sword strategy works better. And Charge is still a nice skill even after promotion when she's become a pretty decent combat unit. Beowulf as the father also provides Faval with Charge, while if Holyn's the father, Faval inherits no skill. He does get nice skill and HP but neither are that big a deal. Honestly, Lex is probably the best husband to Briggd. Edited March 3, 2012 by Dark Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 Briggid gets 3.71, next round shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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