Shin Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Rules (Borrowed from whomever made them first with modifications) - Ratings to be assumed from when a unit is first available. - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted - incredibly low scores or high scores without proper justification will not be counted. Don't put in some random text thinking it'd count as justification. Put in at least a little thought and give REAL reasoning. - Numbers for votes, please - not something like "Turban/10", etc. - Personality / Appearance may be taken into account, but only +/- 1 point at the most. - Votes out of 10, or something proportional to it, please! - Make votes easily visible, please and thank you! - Every ranking phase will end on the next day at approximately 19:00 BST! Take that, Americans! -Second Generation Note: Assume that Substitutes are done on a Subs-only run. Any "not ________" will not be accepted. Units and Ranking (Least to Greatest): First Generation Diadora: 1.19 Ardan: 1.39 Tiltyu: 2.00 Briggid: 3.71 Claude: 4.42 Azel: 4.63 Jamka: 5.25 Midir: 5.47 Dew: 5.68 Holyn: 5.90 Lachesis: 6.13 Noish: 6.15 Alec: 6.17 Beowulf: 6.40 Aideen: 6.57 Ayra: 6.79 Levin: 7.87 Fin (First Generation): 7.88 Fury: 8.25 Cuan: 8.41 Lex: 8.83 Ethlin: 9.15 Sylvia: 9.50 Sigurd: 9.96 Second Generation Roddlevan: 3.33 Radney: 3.44 Daisy: 3.65 Johalva: 3.93 Patty: 4.31 Amid: 4.85 Dimna: 4.89 Mana: 4.98 Tristan: 5.00 Johan: 5.08 Skasaher: 6.00 Lakche: 6.35 Femina: 6.50 Lester: 6.59 Julia: 7.12 Fin: 7.82 Nanna: 8.00 Lana: 8.24 Delmud: 8.45 Shanan: 8.56 Oifaye: 8.58 Arthur: 8.67 Fee: 8.86 Leaf: 9.45 Celice: 9.54 Nanna got 8 exactly! Janne Uh... Mobile healer at best, and that's Relive at best. I guess she can return too. She can't fight and has no access to decent staves. Still, someone's got to heal Fin as he defends Lenster. 4.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 My dad's name is Janne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMikey Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Mediocre combat with C swords, and she has generally poor growths so it's not really going anywhere if you bother babying her. All she has going for her is mounted healing; which, in actuality, is fairly useful since she comes with a Relive. She is somewhat useful, but still her potential is very limited; I guess if you really want her to see combat she does okay with magic swords, but there are better candidates for those. 4.5/10 Also, I like how Fin's Gen I and Gen II scores were almost identical, with Gen II being barely lower. Dat Fin, always steady. Edited April 29, 2012 by Cosmic_Harold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Subs are ranked for all-subs. She's got B swords, which is enough to use the brave sword, which means she can use the gen1 80+ kill brave sword lightsabre, which means she can finish arenas, which means she is a mounted healer that gets free arena XP and self-funded, which means she is going to be somewhere between useful and critical in every chapter she exists in, which means she is an 8/10 EDIT: no I prefer this one so count it as mine instead Edited April 29, 2012 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabarr Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) 7/10 She is a mounted healer who comes with relieve, which is nice. She makes Nanna seem like a fighting goddess though because she is unable to fight with her C in swords and lack of strength. Her growths and bases are pretty lacking too. She's useful as a healer for your cavalry squad though. Edited April 30, 2012 by Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slootwindow Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Subs are ranked for all-subs. She's got B swords, which is enough to use the brave sword, which means she can use the gen1 80+ kill brave sword lightsabre, which means she can finish arenas, which means she is a mounted healer that gets free arena XP and self-funded, which means she is going to be somewhere between useful and critical in every chapter she exists in, which means she is an 8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Subs are ranked for all-subs. She's got B swords, which is enough to use the brave sword, which means she can use the gen1 80+ kill brave sword lightsabre, which means she can finish arenas, which means she is a mounted healer that gets free arena XP and self-funded, which means she is going to be somewhere between useful and critical in every chapter she exists in, which means she is an 8/10 Also, like really? 4/10? 5/10? When Ethlin got over a 9/10? Yeah, Ethlin comes a little earlier and has easier access to better staves but she also leaves early. How is there even this much disparity between the two? EDIT: Also I did forget that Ethlin has pursuit. But yeah, still don't think that Janne's disadvantages would warrant such a lower score compared to what Ethlin was receiving, since they both basically perform the same role. Edited April 30, 2012 by frat_tastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 oh my god I missed Nanna and Fin fuck my life Janne is mediocre statwise, hase no skills that I'm aware of (i can't remember), but she is a relive staff on a horse. Beyond healing, she's not doing a lot else though :/ 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Kind of agree with frat_tastic and slootwindow. I'm using sloot's vote for mine. For reference: Subs are ranked for all-subs. She's got B swords, which is enough to use the brave sword, which means she can use the gen1 80+ kill brave sword lightsabre, which means she can finish arenas, which means she is a mounted healer that gets free arena XP and self-funded, which means she is going to be somewhere between useful and critical in every chapter she exists in, which means she is an8/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 EDIT: Also I did forget that Ethlin has pursuit. But yeah, still don't think that Janne's disadvantages would warrant such a lower score compared to what Ethlin was receiving, since they both basically perform the same role. Uh-uh. Ethlin doesn't even promote into Pursuit. She's only got Critical for her entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Uh-uh. Ethlin doesn't even promote into Pursuit. Neither does Janne? I haven't really been paying attention to this; why is Daisy better than Radney and Roddlevan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Neither does Janne? I haven't really been paying attention to this; why is Daisy better than Radney and Roddlevan? I know Jeanne doesn't have Pursuit, but frat portrayed Ethlin having Pursuit (which she doesn't) as a possible explanation to why she is so far above Jeanne. I seem to remember a lot of people putting a lot of weight on Daisy's nominal money-laundering capabilities. More, I suppose, than the swordsubs. I suspect a lot of voters haven't played much with the subs compared to other subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Mounted healers are welcome. Janne has bad stats but her weapon ranks ain't bad and she has a horse which is more than most of the subs can claim. She lacks a lot of the intangibles you'd get with Nanna, but in a subs run you ain't getting Nanna so those intangibles don't mean squat. Ability to use the Brave Sword is a major plus, since she lacks Pursuit. 7/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Finito! It's countin' time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frat_tastic Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Uh-uh. Ethlin doesn't even promote into Pursuit. She's only got Critical for her entire life. I don't know what the hell I was thinking then. Whoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Really, Jeanne IS Ethlin except without Critical and with an existent MAG growth. She's got some shuffled growths (+/- 10 in some places) but that's how it shakes out. Oh, and she doesn't have A Swords but that means ...no Silver, so eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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