Skyrius Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 They're definitely....odd, that's for sure. I've gotten some "spit-your-milk-out-in-surprise" type reactions and laughs out of their actions, but I can honestly say it just feels awkward to have them as teammates. I dunno, I mean maybe if one of them wasn't this giggling-psycho who has fun causing havoc and grief and the other was this crazy destroy everyone in his way conqueror, I might feel better about it. I mean, some enemies are pretty honorable even before they join, which is why it doesn't feel like such a stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hnnng... He's so cute~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) I tried to put some dots, where irises might have been, for Valhart. It was interesting to look at. The timing is totally terrible seeing as their support convo was posted years ago, but I found a pretty cool Krom/Lucina pic. Maybe their sparring paid off? Edited May 17, 2012 by Pandorakun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only My Unit Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Holy crazy warp trees! Shirow Masamune did some artwork for Shadow Dragon and I think New Mystery, but he created Ghost in the Shell. Now the next game comes out, and Valhart looks an awful lot like Battou. Vhat ze heck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldomania Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The other supports seem to reference how she's unable to approach him. They'd look odd and non sensical if she could actually support Krom and develop a relationship with him. The only supports that deal with her problem with Krom, and "solve" it, are the S-rank convos (of all the ones that are available at least). In theory we can have Tiamo supporting the other guys up to the A rank, support Krom all the way and we wouldn't be seeing any contradictions at all.And Onestep, they're already adding supports for DLC characters, certainly they can implement aditional supports for pre-existing characters, it's not like they'll have to rewrte most of the supports at all. It's a pity Tiamo can't get what she wants. Hope the English localization addresses this. (A longshot it might be, but with DLC content being released, one can always hope) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The only supports that deal with her problem with Krom, and "solve" it, are the S-rank convos (of all the ones that are available at least). In theory we can have Tiamo supporting the other guys up to the A rank, support Krom all the way and we wouldn't be seeing any contradictions at all. And Onestep, they're already adding supports for DLC characters, certainly they can implement aditional supports for pre-existing characters, it's not like they'll have to rewrte most of the supports at all. It's a pity Tiamo can't get what she wants. Hope the English localization addresses this. (A longshot it might be, but with DLC content being released, one can always hope) Order isn't fixed. If Tiamo had the option for an S support with Krom, she could get that first, then get other supports up to A rank - and it's my impression that they do indeed address it, if not as directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldomania Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Good to know that, thank you for point that out. :D If it's alright with you I'd like to ask you a little something: Krom isn't even on Tiamo's support pool, would that be correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) If it's alright with you I'd like to ask you a little something: Krom isn't even on Tiamo's support pool, would that be correct ? This is correct. Edited May 17, 2012 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrius Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Spotpass, not DLC. But that's not really a big deal. From what I've seen, game companies are more inclined to create new material for new characters than modify things for existing characters :T Well, it's part of Tiamo's character description basically, the fact that she can't bring herself to approach Krom as anything other than a comrade-in-arms. Although it'd be nice, I'm not counting on it. And in Tiamo's case, it's more a "everyone can see it" issue. It's not only her possible suitor's supports. I pretty sure FeMU mentions it and some others make some passing jabs at it. Edited May 17, 2012 by Skyrius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldomania Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks for the quick answer to a newbie, I appreciate it Othin. Now, with that being said ... Poor Tiamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Vake's way of speaking reminds me of Prussia from Hetalia. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Spotpass, not DLC. But that's not really a big deal. It's an easy mistake to make, but the difference is important here. The bonus characters like Gangrel and Valhart were already programmed into the game, likely with their supports already written: people first figured out their presence from looking at support lists and seeing additional silhouettes. That's how we've been able to know ahead of time how many they were, who, and what order. For a DLC character to have supports, IS would either need to patch the supports into the game as part of the DLC, which seems farther than they're willing to go right now, or add the content into the game but seal it unless you purchase the DLC - a practice which has gotten other companies backlash with their own DLC, and makes sense for IS to avoid as well as again not seeming to be the direction they're going. So either way, it's not really applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onestep Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) The only supports that deal with her problem with Krom, and "solve" it, are the S-rank convos (of all the ones that are available at least). In theory we can have Tiamo supporting the other guys up to the A rank, support Krom all the way and we wouldn't be seeing any contradictions at all. And Onestep, they're already adding supports for DLC characters, certainly they can implement aditional supports for pre-existing characters, it's not like they'll have to rewrte most of the supports at all. It's a pity Tiamo can't get what she wants. Hope the English localization addresses this. (A longshot it might be, but with DLC content being released, one can always hope) Yes, but it's likely that they planned for the Spotpass characters to always be supportable, rather than throwing it in. While they've likewise planned for it to be impossible for Tiamo and Krom to marry. Furthermore, while DLC adds content, it's quite unusual for it to change pre-existing content anymore. That's not to say it never happens, but it's rare. And it's even rarer for localisations to make programming changes like that. Script changes are fairly common, and occasionally difficulty changes (Radiant Dawn, I'm looking at you) too. But adding something that wasn't there before at all? Not commonly done, to say the least. Edited May 17, 2012 by Onestep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy white Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 i wonder if all the characters shown in the fire emblem awakening website will be all supportable characters even the villains. inverse is eh no i dont like her. but i love emelina xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroknighticalFeats Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Hi guys, so I'm definitely translating and reserve on translating the following: Vake x Miriel [i found their S support... if they do the CBA, I'll get those too.] Chambray x Nn [Good grief, Chambray is more angsty than a Twilight fangirl] Basilio x Flavia [Oh, this should be good...] Greg x Liz [Oh dear...] Greg x Velvet [bHAHAHA The S scene is hilarious based on what I see happening...] I'll try to crank these out soon. Yay for having a Japanese teacher nearby! Also, Vake seems to be a lot like Kanji Tatsumi (Persona 4)... just a bit medievalized... or at least, he seems like that to me, a little bit. Edited May 19, 2012 by Blumpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miscellany Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Here, have some FeMUxHenry. Again, I got tripped up by that A support, so I'm sorry. [spoiler=RufurexHenry] [spoiler=RufurexHenry C] Henry: ............ Rufure: Oh, Henry-san? Crouching in a place like that...Could it be, he feels bad!? That would be dreadful...! Ah, Henry-san, Henry-san! Henry: Ah, yes. What is it~? Rufure: Eh? What the...you seem just fine. I thought you were crouched in a place like because you were in a bad mood. Henry: Ahaha, seems like you were worried about me. I'm sorry~. Rufure: No problem, I'm just happy you're alright. What were you doing? Henry: Re~ally fun things~. Would you like to do them together, Rufure? Rufure: What kind of fun things? Let's see, let's see...u, uhyaaaaaa!? Henry: Ah, sorry. Was it a surprise~? This corpse soldier's arm~. Rufure: Did you just pick that up off the battle field?! Why would you bring something like that with you! Henry: No~, I saw the dead body, and was interested in how it worked. So I thought 'let's do a little dissection and examine it~.' Here, Rufure-san, you too~. Maybe we can find the enemy soldiers' weaknesses~! Rufure: I'll refrain, thank you! Henry: Ahaha, too bad~. [spoiler=RufurexHenry B] Henry: Fun, fun. Funfu~n...♪ Rufure: Henry-san...What is that magic circle he's drawing on the ground? I mean...I'm getting a terribly ominous premonition, but... Henry: Ah, Rufure. This is a very good thing~. This magic circle is, presto! A circle to summon back the corpse soldier~! Rufure: Eh... Henry: If you use this to fight, then it doesn't matter how many times they fall. We should celebrate by drinking some tea~. It's so convenient this way, because no one else will have to die, right~? Rufure: Uun...We haven't had many die yet, so even if I borrow the power of this corpse soldier...Besides, are we always going to be able to manipulate the summoned corpse? Henry: Yep, because they aren't being manipulated~. They'll only attack people who are alive~. But, it can't go too far away from where the magic circle is～. Rufure: But...then wouldn't the towns and villages near here be attacked by your corpse soldiers...? Henry: Ahaha, of course they'll get attacked~. But, wouldn't they win the fight? Rufure: That's no good...we'd be winning at the expense of innocent people's lives... Henry: No good? Why is it no good? It's not like a lot of people have been killed yet. Rufure: ...That's because even if we all die otherwise...it stops being a good victory. I think we should win without depriving those people of their lives. Henry: Fuun...Alright, I understand~. I won't use this magic, then~. Rufure: Yes... [spoiler=RufurexHenry A] Rufure: Henry-san, you were magnificent in the fight earlier.[/your way of fighting from before was good] Henry: Eh? How so~? Rufure: That corpse soldier you summoned in the skirmish. That time, despite the unfavorable battle, we were holding out with the town as a backdrop. The town would have also been damaged if we'd had to retreat. Henry: Rufure, you shouldn't have to sacrifice yourself to keep others from dying~. Rufure: Ah...you sensed it? Henry: Of course I did~. I was told to protect the children because people from there asked me to, so I followed their orders properly~. Rufure: Well...you're surprisingly dutiful. Henry: Ah, but on the battlefield, being told "Do not fight" is maybe a bit unpleasant~. In those cases, people who say "Do not fight" are erased from the ex~hilarating battle. Rufure: ......... ...I, no matter what you say, will just keep ordering "Do not Fight" to avoid... Henry: What's the matter~? Rufure: Ne-nevermind! Umm, Henry-san, why didn't you refuse when you were asked? Why don't you help me organize or strategize? Recently, you've been making more trouble than you've been fixing! Henry: Ye~s, happily~! [spoiler=RufurexHenry S] Henry: Rufure, I finished putting up the tent~. Was there anything else you wanted me to do~? Rufure: Let me think...Organize the written strategies, clean, inspect the weapons, check the food supplies...that's all. Thank you for your help, Henry-san. Henry: Then, what should I do~? Rufure: Ehhh? How do...You have to do what you want now, Henry-san. Henry: Really? Then, I want to be near Rufure~. Rufure: Ehhh!? Henry: I always have fun when I'm with you~ Out of everyone, I love Rufure the most~. Rufure: Aha, thank you very much...I also love you. Henry: I really don't know what love means, though... Rufure: ...Eh? Henry: Ahaha, I'm going to be blunt with you for this~! Rufure: This is...a ring? It has a kind of evil design... Henry: It's okay, you won't suffer from the curse~. You also have to love the lonely parts of me that curses things. Besides, I wouldn't curse my beloved~. Do you understand this? The meaning of love just now. Will you marry me? Rufure: Henry-san...You sound surprisingly... Henry: Fufu. I thought just going with how I normally talk to people would be a mistake. So~? What's your reply~? Rufure: Yes...I'll receive it gladly. I suppose you've charmed me... Henry: Really? Yahoo~! Rufure: But! You absolutely have to make me happy! Henry: Ye~s, anything my beloved asks, I'll absolutely respond to~! I really hope Emelina can support with her siblings, at least. It's stupid that Gangrel can't support with Inverse, even without giving them an S support. Also Lumi, I noticed that you have LucinaxMale Mark sibling linking to their lover support in the OP. Edited May 18, 2012 by Miscellany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I thought I fixed that. I was half asleep when that happened D: Welp, should be fixed now. Edited May 18, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I really hope Emelina can support with her siblings, at least. She is not on either of their support lists. Just MU's and potentially female Mark's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasusmage Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I tried to put some dots, where irises might have been, for Valhart. It was interesting to look at. The timing is totally terrible seeing as their support convo was posted years ago, but I found a pretty cool Krom/Lucina pic. Maybe their sparring paid off? That artwork is beautiful. The artist deserves money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasusmage Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Well, I'm convinced; Vake's "royal we" is especially entertaining. [spoiler=Tiamo x Vake C]Vake: Krom! Krom, where are you?! Tiamo: Vake. Vake: Oh, over there! Tiamo: No. Will you just settle down already and stop chasing Lord Krom?! Vake: Yours truly and Krom are eternal rivals! Who's chasing after whom is not important! Tiamo: What you're really doing isn't chasing him! You're just being a nuisance to him! Vake: We're being a nuisance? Doesn't he accept our challenge every time? Tiamo: Lord Krom isn't the type to run away from a challenge so there's no helping that. That's why, for Lord Krom's sake, I think... Vake: He hasn't asked you to do anything about it, right? Then it's really none of your business. Tiamo: Hmph... ... Fine. If you want to fight that badly, I'll be your opponent. Vake: Huh? You? Tiamo: You'll have to beat me first if you want to fight Lord Krom! Vake: Haha, isn't that interesting? Guess it would be good to measure ourself against someone other than Krom every once in a while. Come! [spoiler=Tiamo x Vake B]Vake: Damn that Krom... Just a little bit more and We'd have won! Tiamo: No matter how much you're beaten, you just don't give up, do you? I really do admire that tenacity of yours. But to just keep on challenging Lord Krom's sword with a disadvantageous weapon like the axe is just... Vake: We don't bother with details like weapon compatibility or logic. If We tried to stick to the smart way of doing things, then We'd never be able to catch up to people like you or Krom... Yours truly will do things our own way. And win! Tiamo: ... Do you really want to win? Vake: Hm? Tiamo: I understood when I saw that last fight. You have a knack for fighting. But strangely enough, you're so focused on your own fighting style that you neglect the basics of combat, which is why you end up losing. Vake: What the!? Tiamo: And as you fight with the axe, you don't know any other tactics except charging from the front, do you? I can give you some pointers if you want. So, what will it be? Vake: ...Will We really be able to beat Krom with that training? Tiamo: That is up to you. However, I can vouch for its effectiveness. Vake: Alright, let's try it then! Tiamo: Just keep in mind, I won't take it easy on you. Vake: That's just fine! Let's go! [spoiler=Tiamo x Vake A]Tiamo: Phew... For now, let's take a break. Vake: *Panting*... We're ... not done... yet. *Wheeze* Tiamo: No use acting tough. You're barely able to breathe. Resting is also an important part of your training. Vake: If... If you feel so strongly about it, We'll rest up a bit. Phew... We're exhausted. Tiamo: Hehehe... But it's amazing. I knew you had talent but to be able to improve this much in such a short time... Vake: Well, We just had to work one or two of the basics and the rest just came naturally. However... If you hadn't taught us all that, We'd probably have never come this far. Let us express our gratitude; thank you. Tiamo: My, how frank. That's unusual. Vake: We'll have you know that's We're always frank. Tiamo: Is that so? Well, let's leave it at that. Vake: But... is that alright? Tiamo: What is? Vake: Yours truly is Krom's rival, right? Isn't the fact that We've gotten stronger bad for Krom? Tiamo: It most certainly isn't. If you get stronger, Lord Krom will also get stronger in order to avoid losing. That's why this is for Lord Krom's sake. Vake: We see. Tiamo: Moreover, increasing your strength also raises that of this army. There is no downside to this. Vake: Ehhh, you thought this far ahead? You'll put MU to shame. Tiamo: Umm... Thinking like this is pretty normal actually. Though I guess it would appear impressive for someone like who just blindly fights without so much as a single thought. Vake: What did you! Tiamo: My, looks like you got quite a bit of energy back. And it looks like your breathing is back to normal. Then do you want to continue? Vake: Yeah! Tiamo: I'll keep going at you without holding anything back! Vake: Of course! Until the day yours truly beats Krom, We'll count on you for training! [spoiler=Tiamo x Vake S]Vake: *Panting* ... Did you see that? We landed a hit on Krom. Well, he did land a hit on us too so it's a tie but, it's all thanks to you. Tiamo: I saw it... Both of you were serious and really went at each other with everything you've got. Vake: Yeah, our weapons may not have been real but our fighting was. At any rate, it was because beating Krom's the only way for us to touch your heart. Tiamo: Huh... what's, that supposed to... Vake: Hey... Just give up on Krom. You know full well that it's not what he wants, right? Tiamo: Wha... What, what the, that's...! Vake: It irritates us to see it. Your earnestness, your gallantry. ... Leave them for us. We will properly look at you and give you what you deserve. Tiamo: Eeh? ... Wha, What are you... Saying something like that out of the blue... Vake: Turn your passion over to us. We will accept all of it upfront and our love for you will be twice that much. That's why, please accept this. Tiamo: ...A ring? Then, you want to... Vake: We had it specially made for you. Your heart has been stuck on Krom for so long. That's why we wanted to take this chance and help you overcome that. Please marry us, Tiamo. Tiamo: Umm... I..., that is... y... Yes... Vake: Really! Thank you! We love you more than anyone else, Tiamo. Let's do our best to be happy! Tiamo: Hmph... you're really overbearing. We'll definitely be happy, right?... Because I believe in you. He sounds a bit like gollum. The way he says we for I . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Chambray x Song [i FINALLY DEDUCED WHAT HER REAL NAME IS!!! ...It wasn't Soso or the ridiculous Nn, but "Son" - which becomes "Song", which is a Chinese name. Are you sure? We all concluded her name only contained the N (ン)　symbol twice　and no So's (ソ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Are you sure? We all concluded her name only contained the N (ン)　symbol twice　and no So's (ソ). Vincent is so nice Here's how it is (So taken from Soiree, N from Ronku, from pre-release screenshots) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 ...and while we're at it, Nn herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striped Shirt Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I suspect her official name will end up something like Unun, unless the fact that her name is grammatical gibberish is somehow important. Edited May 18, 2012 by Striped Shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I suspect her official name will end up something like Unun, unless the fact that her name is grammatical gibberish is somehow important. Inb4 Onon in the English versions Edited May 18, 2012 by TheEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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